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Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Mar 1, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Xometry Fourth Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers presentation there will be question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Please be advice that today's conference is being record. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Shawn Milne, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Shawn Milne

Analyst

Good morning, and thank you for joining us on Xometry's Q$ 2022 Earnings Call. Joining me are Randy Altschuler, our Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Rallo, our Chief Financial Officer. During today's call, we will review our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2022 and discuss our guidance for the first quarter and full year 2023. During today's call, we will make forward-looking statements, including statements related to the expected performance of our business, future financial results, strategy, long-term growth and overall future prospects. Such statements may be identified by terms such as believe, expect, intend and may. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause them to differ materially from actual results. Information concerning those risks is available in our earnings press release distributed before the market opened today and in our SEC filings included in the Form 10-K for the quarter ended December 31, 2022, that will be filed with the SEC. We caution you not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements and undertake no duty or obligation to update any forward-looking statements as a result of new information, future events or changes in our expectations. We'd also like to point out that on today's call, we will report GAAP and non-GAAP results. We use these non-GAAP financial measures internally for financial and operating decision-making purposes and as a means to evaluate period-to-period comparisons. Non-GAAP financial measures are presented in addition to and not as a substitute or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with U.S. GAAP. To see the reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures, please refer to our earnings press release distributed today and our investor presentation, both of which are available on the Investors section of our website at investors.xometry.com. A replay of today's call will also be posted on our website. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Randy.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Thanks, Shawn. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our Q4, 2022 earnings call. While Q4 was a challenging quarter for Xometry we continue to build global networks of buyers and suppliers and the technology tools that enable them to transact digitally. With our market leading position and a total addressable market of $2 trillion we expect to continue to grow rapidly for many years to come. We believe that continuing shift to digital is inevitable. And as the leading two sided marketplace our asset light digital marketplace creates efficiencies and values for buyers and suppliers alike. Our AI-powered algorithms generate instant prices and lead times and we efficiently connect buyers with the manufacturing technology and manufacturer which can drastically reduce time to market and strengthen global supply chains. While there are no shortcuts, we are steadily and methodically executing on our vision of becoming the de facto digital rails for custom manufacturing. In Q4, revenue increased 46% year-over-year to $98.2 million driven by marketplace growth and expanding supplier services with the addition of Thomas. Q4 marketplace revenue was $79.1 million 32% year-over-year growth. Gross profit increased 72% year-over-year driven by 30% growth in marketplace gross profit and the addition of Thomas. Active buyers increased 45% year-over-year to 40,664 driven by a record addition of 3875 active buyers in Q4, a 17% increase over the prior record set in Q3. We also set a company record for the largest number of orders in a quarter, in part driven by record order count from existing accounts. The revenue generated by these existing accounts also continues to grow at a rapid clip reflecting the stickiness of our marketplace. In the Q4 earnings presentation we updated the account cohort analysis that was in our 2021 S1 IPO filing to help…

Jim Rallo

Analyst

Thanks, Randy. And good morning everyone. As Randy mentioned, we delivered solid marketplace growth in Q4 year-over-year despite increasing macro headwinds and changing buyer behavior. In early 2023 we took actions to reinvigorate marketplace growth and improve operating efficiencies and leverage. We generated Q4 revenue of $98.2 million up 46% year-over-year, driven by marketplace growth and the addition of Thomas and supplier services. The stronger U.S. dollar negatively impacted revenue by $1.1 million on a year-over-year basis. Q4 marketplace revenue was $79.1 million in supplier services revenue was $19.1 million. Q4 marketplace growth of 32% was driven by a strong increase in the number of active buyers year-over-year while revenue provider was impacted by lower pricing and softening order rates as Randy previously mentioned. Q4 active buyers increased 45% year-over-year to 40,664. In Q4, the percentage of revenue from existing accounts was 96% underscoring the efficiency and transparency of our business model that leads to increasing account stickiness and spend over time. Once an account joins our platform, we aim to expand the relationship and increase engagement and spending activities from that account over time. The number of accounts with last 12 months spend at least 50,000 on our platform reached 1027 at the end of Q4 up 47% year-over-year. The strength of the U.S. dollar created a slight drag on metric for Q4 by approximately seven accounts. Supplier services revenue declined 2% quarter-over-quarter in Q4. The decline was primarily driven by seasonality in the Thomas business due to the timing of the publication of their trade magazine. As expected, this impacted revenue by approximately 400,000 in Q4. Q4 gross profit was $36 million and increase of 72% year-over-year. Gross profit margin was 36.7%. Q4 gross margin for marketplace was 27.1% down 330 basis points quarter-over-quarter. The main driver was…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from line of Brain Drab from William Blair. Your line this morning.

Brain Drab

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Randy, maybe you can start just by talking about what you've learned since we spoke last regarding why suppliers are accepting jobs at such a faster rate. And how did that job acceptance, how did the speed of the acceptance trend throughout the fourth quarter and into this year?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes, so Brian, good morning. So as we indicated, we did see pricing continue to fall through the quarter and buyers or suppliers were just more willing than ever to take prices at those lower rates. And that continued to drive down the AOV as the quarter progressed and then you couple that with we talked about slowing ordered growth from our largest account. And that just ended up being a double whammy for us.

Brain Drab

Analyst

Right. And so have you seen those acceptance feeds change at all? I mean, it was a sudden kind of a sudden drop of 30 something percent. So at the end of the third quarter. They're stepping faster now than they were before or is that leveled off?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes. So we're seeing now prices. I mean, there are a couple of dynamics at work. One is as we indicated, we were also doing some price optimization testing in Q4 and so and that dragged into the beginning of this of Q1. So in January Q1. We want to make sure we got it right. So now, as we're taking those learnings we've been optimizing prices, and so even on, so let me just look at that, just from the price perspective, you're seeing that we're, very selectively raising prices and optimizing it also trying to make sure that we're going to maintain that very strong order growth that we've been seeing. At the same time, you are seeing stabilization from suppliers at the prices, that they're willing to take things. And so even though in January we saw a relatively low AOV, in February, that's been trending back up. And so overall that trend is going higher.

Brain Drab

Analyst

Okay, just one last question on this. I mean you've been experimenting with the price, experimenting at lower levels, I guess. But now, price is coming back up a little bit. Are you still in the fermentation phase? Or do you feel like you've something figured out that you had before? And where should we expect price to go in March and beyond? I guess it's going to continue to creep up?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes. I think we are, we've consolidated the learnings that we've had and what we were aggressive in Q4, sort of in response to the trends, we were seeing. We thought we took that as an opportunity to really invest into testing. But we've taken those and now you're going to see the AOVs grow as a result of us [on-demand] testing and picking those learnings and optimizing pricing, as we said, raising prices, where we think we have the room to do that without impacting this healthy growth in orders that we've been experiencing.

Brain Drab

Analyst

Okay, thanks very much. I'll get back in line.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

No problem.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question comes from the line of Matthew Hedberg from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Matthew Hedberg

Analyst

Great, guys. Thanks. Randy. I'm wondering if there's any more clarity on maybe why suppliers are accepting orders at a lower rate? And just to be clear, are you sure there's not a competitive reason maybe causing some of these buyers and sellers decisions?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Well, look, I think there is clearly and there's an unusual macroenvironment. And so if buyers, if our suppliers are willing to take prices at lower prices then that means a couple of things. One is that they probably have less work themselves. They have more open capacity. But also second, that we are we talked about this last quarter we are working hard to make it easier and easier for them to work with us. So, I think it's sort of a combination of those.

Matthew Hedberg

Analyst

Got it. And then maybe just to double click on Thomasnet. What are the specific things that you're focused on in 2023 to drive faster conversion of buyers and sellers?

Jim Rallo

Analyst

Yes. So a couple of different things. I think he is operational and we're working very hard. We've been growing very nicely to the top of funnel there. We're trying to make it easier and easier for buyers to find what they're looking for optimize their searching and then making it easier for them to transact. On the flip side, we're also just trying to streamline the communication that the supplier has with that buyer. So take a step back, before we bought Thomas, all this is happening off platform. We're moving on platform both to the buyer side and the supplier side. So as we get more top of funnel, more activity there as we make it easier for buyers to find what they're looking for, that will improve our ability to transact. And likewise, as we get the suppliers more engaged, that will also improve. So we're working with both sides of the equation.

Matthew Hedberg

Analyst

Got it. Thanks a lot guys.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

And Matt I would just say and we talked to Shawn, we talked a little bit about this on the call, but you should expect to see from us this year more advertising solutions, new self-serve advertising solutions on Thomas for suppliers. As you know that historically that's all I had to go through salespeople. So the more we can offer self-serve, that's going to be helpful to the business and as Randy called out we're going to lay the ground work for pay for performance search, which will be really a step function change for Thomas as well, long term.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes line of Eric Sheridan from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Eric Sheridan

Analyst

Thanks so much. Maybe just one quick follow up to what we've been talking about so far. And then I'll get into a deeper question. But in terms of where we are in the macro cycle what sort of visibility do you think you have in terms of whether you've absorbed the most, the biggest wave of what would be excess capacity on the partner side of the equation where they've been willing to accept jobs at lower prices and therefore, more of that, behind you that ahead of you, as opposed to the sense you have a visibility of whether the macro environment could get worse over the next three to six months? That would be number one, and maybe they'll come back with a second one after that?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes, I mean, Eric, I think we've seen the, we've seen the prices the costs bottomed out. So I think we've indicated, as you move from January to February. We are seeing, we're increasing prices, partly because we're really seeing that floor from the suppliers. We've sort of reached that floor from the suppliers. Likewise we made an investment in Q4 to really test the price elasticity of our customer base. And we're also taking some learnings and we've been raising prices collectively. So I think between the combination of the prices of the cost bottoming out from the suppliers, plus the learnings that we've gotten from our elasticity tests were AOVs are improving. I think that's kind for the year, we know, when you look at our guidance for the year, we've tried to be conservative when we look at the AOVs just not to get ahead of ourselves.

Eric Sheridan

Analyst

Totally understood. And maybe the second one more for Jim. In terms of the way you're framing the efficiencies you're pulling into the business now versus the potential exit velocity of '23. How should we be thinking about incremental margins and mix of sort of fixed versus variable costs? Or what's implied and maybe the way you're thinking about Q4 of '23. So we better understand how the business is set up from an incremental margin standpoint beyond 2023. Thanks so much.

Jim Rallo

Analyst

Yes. Good questionnaire. So a couple of things. One we had some significant costs this quarter around finalizing Sarbanes Oxley that, obviously is a onetime [indiscernible] for us. We need to continue to maintain that. But the initial integration of that was obviously a lot of work for our team. And we obviously use some consultants to get there as well. In addition, I think well we took a very quick move to institute a riff, which is going to save us $8 million over next year. And then again we are seeing good changes in the gross profit margin already. And so we were expecting it continue to grow that gross profit margin throughout the year. I think when you look at those factors put together we feel pretty confident about getting like I said to that profitability and adjusted EBITDA basis in Q4.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes. Maybe Eric just had a little commentary there. So when you look at things like our G&A, in particular, our product development line items expect to gain real leverage. And we had been going in Q4 obviously was sort of an anomaly for us when we went the wrong direction, but we expected to gain real leverage on the line items in particular. And it's marketing that will continue to grow, but we're monitoring that as well. So I think we are going to gain substantial efficiencies as the quarter as the year goes on. And as Jim also indicated, and we've said you're going to see gross profit margins, largely in marketplace, largely rebound here in Q1. And with that positive trend kind of resuming what you saw from us in prior quarters going on that just that also adds incremental dollars for every dollar of revenue, incremental profit for every dollar of revenue as we leverage those expense, those OpEx line items.

Eric Sheridan

Analyst

Great. Thanks for the color.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes line of Karl Keirstead from UBS. Your line is open.

Karl Keirstead

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. Maybe two for Randy. These macro issues as you're describing them around suppliers willing to take lower prices and slowing order growth from buyers. I'm just curious whether this is a little bit more unique to an online marketplace model like yours or company specific versus macro in the sense that, as we see results across the manufacturing sector, we would expect to everybody in the line hear evidence of the same trends that you're describing. So the crux of the question is how marketplace of Xometry, specific these pressure points are?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Well, look, I think one thing to be clear about when we mentioned the call, but I just want to double down on that, as you know, we are gaining market share. So not only we have an act record number, we had a record number of active buyers in Q4. But we continue to see very strong growth trends in adding active buyers and we see really strong growth in adding order account. So we're gaining market share in here. I think it has been an odd macro environment. So I don't think that's specific in terms from a cost perspective. I don't think that's specific to us. I think that's more an overall environment that you're seeing. So I wouldn't describe anything particular to us. Shawn if you want to.

Shawn Milne

Analyst

Yes, no, I mean, Karl, I mean , we've seen others in the space actually see their revenues decline year-over-year and I'm sure you've watched the macro environment as much as we do. And there certainly was some lower manufacturing output in the fourth quarter too.

Karl Keirstead

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Just wanted to test that. Thank you. And then secondly, Randy, if you could just describe in perhaps a little bit more detail these price optimization efforts that you're making, because it does seem like the recovery that you're anticipating in 2023 is not really from the macro improving. I think you made a comment that these headwinds are likely to carry into Q1 but rather it's the tuning or optimization of the marketplace algorithm that should enable things to recover. I know that you started doing that after 3Q and it obviously didn't lead to a significant improvement in the fourth quarter. So what I really want to press on is what's different this time around your tuning efforts that we can feel comfortable with that marketplace gross margin going up in Q1? Thank you.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yeah, look, and I just want to read, make it clear, I think for and Karl, you said it, you're right, for 2023 we've taken a conservative view on our AOV to make sure that we take into account. We're not buying into a macro improvement, by sort of taking account of kind of where being conservative on that element. I think also, just on that point we continue to grow market share and we've seen robust growth. I think in terms of our ability to control it we wanted to make sure the test ran through, but we do have the ability to raise as the cost from the suppliers sort of bottom out and so that sort of going down lower as we raise our prices, through our electives through our price optimization, that just enabled us to get a healthier margin. And without sacrificing that, that increase in order count or order growth from our customers. And that's what we were testing. We got pretty aggressive in that testing to see what is that price elasticity. And then we've been very good sense about how we can continue to gain that share of customer while without it costing us dollars, our ability to add more cost and more price, we're charging them more. So I think we feel very good about the results of that optimization, and you will see the results of that year in Q1.

Karl Keirstead

Analyst

Okay, good context. Thank you, Randy.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Okay.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question will comes from the line of [indiscernible] from Citi. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking the question. I have two. Maybe Randy, can you talk a little bit just about annual active buyers and cohorts? I mean, we saw some pretty strong growth year in annual active buyers and additions in the quarter. I'm wondering if you expect the ramp and new buyer activities flow at some point relative prior quarters or do you think or cohorts or do you think this cohort what we've seen on that slide in the presentation can continue in terms of overall growth and I have a quick follow up? Thank you.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

I think we're continuing to see very healthy additions of active buyers. So that's been growing steadily throughout 2022. We haven't really hit a record in Q4 of this past year in terms of the quarter-over-quarter ads of active buyers. And we expect a healthy trend to continue in '23. We also added for folks who haven't seen it, if you look at the earnings back that now we've attached that you can find on our site, you can see we actually added a slide that showed the revenue contributions from our cohorts. And I think you can see from that, that we're seeing really strong growing contribution from those cohorts. And we expect that trend to continue.

Shawn Milne

Analyst

And Ron. Hey it's Shawn. I just want to add to on that cohort slide, just to be clear. You were asking about the active buyer growth, which was a record this quarter. And as Randy said, we expect that to be healthy going forward, the cohort slide is based on an account basis. And just keep in mind the whole land and expand strategy here. We've tried to bring in an account, we add buyers in an account. And that's how it really drives that growth.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got and that's actually a good segue into the second question I had here Randy and Shawn and Jim. You talked about slowing order growth from Xometry's largest accounts, but also realigning the salesforce to focus on those top 200 accounts. So if you could help us understand just the plan to call it expand in those top 300 accounts that would be helpful. And where are you in that process of realignment? Thanks, guys.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes, so our top 200 accounts represent almost 50% of our U.S. marketplace revenue. So as we indicated in the call, one of the things unfortunately, we experienced unexpectedly in Q4 with that was a slowdown from that group. And so really, as we saw that trend, we made sure that we realigned our sales force and our support to focus on going deeper into those customers. And we provide a bunch of case studies the land and expand. So we're trying to go deeper and deeper into them for a number of reasons. First of all, these are large companies that have tremendous spend on custom manufacturing. So even though we've grown rapidly with them, since they joined us, they're still, we're still a very small portion of their overall span, custom manufacturing. So this is very fertile ground for us to grow into. And as we've gotten bigger within we're also getting the opportunity to do more and more with them to get bigger orders, larger orders. So it's an advancement that makes a lot of sense, particularly as we do more production more and use parts. This is very fertile ground for us. So focusing our technical resources on that as well to go deeper, makes a lot of sense. Likewise, as we expand the menu of the things that we can offer, so as we more tightly integrate all the capabilities that the suppliers and Thomas offer, that enables us more and more to be that one stop shop, or one stop place for those accounts to go. And again, those accounts have such big spend as we broaden what we can offer them more and more, they can default more that's sent to us. So it's sort of a multi prong strategy. I think we have a lot of active buyers. So making sure we're focused on those that provide the greatest opportunity for profitable growth. Q4 was a reminder of that and we're doubling down that year in Q1 throughout this year, that that's where, in terms of just where we put our headcount, that's where we want to put it.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thank you guys.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes line of Cory Carpenter from JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, guys, this is Danny on for Cory Carpenter. I just have two quick ones on international. So for international expansion, is the key driver of growth there really more geared towards expanding the amount of countries you're operating in? Or is it really kind of geared toward expanding the depth of each market with new offerings? And then another one on international can you talk about what was attractive about the marketplace in Turkey required? And maybe we should expect to see more of these bolt on acquisitions in the future? Thanks.

Jim Rallo

Analyst

Yes. So I think when you look at Europe is actually both it's both of things you mentioned. So we are adding sales folks in different countries. We're also expanding our capabilities in Europe. When you look at the recent tuck in acquisition, we did what that did give us really a low cost network in Europe so think about similar cost model to what you have in like a China or Asia network and the beauty of that is we can ship in 24 hours from Turkey to really anywhere in Europe. So you're lowering your lead times and still giving our European customers an economy option if you would. So both, again, growth in -- both growth into sales force and continued growth in different countries in Europe is what's driving that.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes. So if we're going deeper into markets there's huge markets that we're in Europe already, when you look at the German speaking countries, when you look at France, in Italy, and Spain, but we're also adding new markets, as we talked about. We are now having a physical presence in the UK. We are transacting in pounds. That's the third largest market in Europe. So it's still early days there, but lots of room to grow. And then just double down on what Jim said about Turkey. A lot of European manufacturing is done there. It's very familiar ground with Europe. So it just offers us a great opportunity. And there's growth opportunity in Turkey itself. But so sort of, we get two different things for that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

One moment for next question. Our next question comes line of Greg [indiscernible] from Craig Halen. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I know you'd been testing this price elasticity in Q4. I know we focused a lot on the behavior on behalf of your suppliers. But I'm curious if what you were doing change the behavior at all in terms of your buyers, whether maybe they decided to order less parts per order, any change in kind of lead times? I think you'll need to do something like that to reduce cost and maybe a little bit more color on buyer behavior.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes. Great question. So we did see buyers trade off the time for price, we did see some reduction in quantity to the things that you're talking about are absolutely spot on. And that also obviously impacted the average order values that we saw as we exited Q4 and in the beginning of Q1. Again, we said we've seen that trend change in February. We've also, we're reaping the benefits of our of our price optimization. So we expect that that AOV to start rebounding and it has rebounded in February, and we expended executive to have a good trend that we're trying to be conservative for this year. And so not get ahead of our skis on it, but it certainly hasn't improved from where it went in the late Q4 and in the beginning of Q1.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then in terms of pinpointing that improvement, I'll sort of tie that back to my initial question. How much of that is driven by the suppliers versus the buyers? Maybe they're adding more parts to the order. Maybe they are, maybe do an expedited or standards in lieu of economy, but can you just dig into a little bit in terms of the specifics around the improvements?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Yes. I mean, we are seeing buyers. We're seeing less buyers. There is more urgency from the buyers, as we're sort of getting further into this quarter. So they are trading off less on the lead time than they had been doing as we saw in at the end of Q4 and beginning of this year. So there is some change in the buyer behavior. And then part of it is also some of our price optimization.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Makes sense and then yes, okay, got it. And then just in terms of margins I just wanted to dig into the commentary a little bit on Q1 specifically. So I think you said that, they're going to rebound or normalize, I forget the exact words, but would you expect them to rebound to levels that you saw in Q2, or Q3 last year, and then just last quarter, you talked about accelerating that timeline to achieve your long term targets. Are you still comfortable with that in 2024? Are these recent results change your thinking there?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

Absolutely we're so comfortable with that. And I think the rebound in Q1 I think we're seeing that to be very, we use the term largely rebound and we talk about largely rebound. We're going back to Q3. So we're seeing a very, we're back to what we think is a very healthy gross profit margin on the marketplace.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, makes sense. All right. Thanks. Best of luck. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes online to Robert [indiscernible] from Luke Capital. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, and good morning. And Thank you for taking my question. On the price optimization what you did there. Was that just sort of a, just a sweeping price change across all or most categories? Or was it maybe more surgical in categories and with groups of users?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

I'd say if we did wide testing. I think you've hit it spot on. And when we do, we have different, we are running different tests and different technologies. And for customers at different points in their journey with Xometry. So whether or not they're just a brand new customer moving to the second order, versus the customer is getting there longer, again, versus if you're looking at folks in additive manufacturing, versus machine molding, etc. So we ran a bunch of different tests. So and we felt lucky. It was a very interesting period and we thought it was the time where we're grabbing market share. And we want to, really test this and we thought this was a smart move to fund it. And reap the benefits of it as we move forward.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So just to make sure I understand your question, your answer Randy is, does that suggest that there's potentially some more wood to chop here that maybe there's more price optimization by category or otherwise to come that you haven't addressed?

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

I don't, I think we're always going to be testing price elasticity all the time. We're always going to be running tests on that. But we don't expect that to have the material impact and gross margins that you saw in Q4 last year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay.

Randy Altschuler

Analyst

That was, we really funded a big number for that. We do not expect that to happen in Q1 and beyond in this year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. My follow up question is simply the existing accounts sales of 96 been hovering around 95%, 96% for some time. I'm wondering and I know that that speaks to the stickiness of the model. But I'm wondering, with the active buyers growth, just continuing to be quite strong. The assumption there is that some of those active buyers are new accounts. Right. So when does existing account percent? When does that number start to go down? And perhaps maybe, should it have gone down by now?

Shawn Milne

Analyst

Yes, this is Shawn, I mean, just remember that, a new buyer would spend less than someone who's been an accountant spending over time. So it's that kind of dynamic, but if you actually look at sort of revenue per buyer in Q4 I mean that that's part of what we saw a very strong active buyer growth in Q4. But again we saw some of our existing customers or less so that that was the bigger impact in terms of revenue per buyer.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And I'm not showing any further questions in the queue. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.