Robert Pagano
Analyst · Seaport Global.
Yes, so Walt, to answer your first question, in Germany, they have some energy efficiency subsidies going on. And as you know, a lot of our business in Germany is related to OEMs, boiler -- residential boiler manufacture, so that's been helping those German manufacturers, and we've been supporting that, so that's helped. The biggest overall why things were better in Europe than we expected is they worked through the summer months, and we didn't expect them to do that, right? So they worked through that. That will subside. And right now, we're a little concerned with the breakouts, the shutdowns. The current shutdowns are not shutting down manufacturing at this point in time. It's mainly restaurants, bars, et cetera. But we are seeing -- obviously, they're seeing wider spread and uncertainty in that marketplace, and we think that's going to slow that down. So I think there has been some more government stimulus in that area. However, the COVID outbreak is what leads us to be cautious in the fourth quarter.
In the Americas, certainly residential, as I said before, has been doing well. And I think some of the subsidies that were happening on into, let's call it, the hospitality market, et cetera, may have helped on some of the repair and replacement type stuff. But now that that's not been in there and we're not seeing that, we're starting to see a slowdown and people pushing out normal repair and renovations, as I said earlier, and we're watching that very closely. But again, uncertainty in the market, as I said in my prepared remarks, when there's uncertainty, people aren't building. And our Drains, which is a leading indicator, was down double digits in October and steadily got worse out of Q3. So that means they're not building new buildings at this point in time, finishing what they complete. And then we got that air pocket, and the question is how long will that air pocket go, and we believe it's going to go at least into the second half of next year.