Edward Joseph Wehmer
Analyst · RBC Capital Markets
Last part first, it's credit specific. Our risk rating system is very robust, it's monitored, and it's -- we take it very seriously. And these are credit-specific deals that start showing some air, some cracks. And we gently show the customer the door, and there are plenty of takers out there to pick them up right now. So it's not -- and they get them at lesser rates than maybe we were charging them. So there's $211 million ran out. We're at higher rates than the portfolio. So that hurt us a little bit on that core portfolio going down, but that's okay. It'll be easy to stick with them, but that's a fool's game. You'll lose your money on credit, and that's what we are in the business of doing, maintaining safe credit. If you didn't learn in that in the past few years, I don't know what you learned at all. You see where our pipeline is. The $1.2 billion pipeline really is lines and -- lines of credit and terms -- term loans, grand total about $700 million. Real estate, about $465 million. Other loans, about $25 million. So that's about $1.2 billion there. The leasing pipeline is around $120 million. I will qualify that by saying we don't have evidence of the pull-through rate on the leasing pipeline right now. The salesmen are in place. The thing is starting to get lots of traction. But we don't have empirical history on what our pull-through will be there. So I will qualify that statement. And I just gave you a gross pipeline number there, but that's where that stands. The premium finance business continues to do very well. You can see those balances increase. Our life insurance business is doing very well. You know that industry. A lot of competitors will pulse in and pulse out of that market looking for outstandings. We have such a value-added proposition that we continue to grow that business. And I don't have the numbers in hand, but their pipelines are also the largest than, I think, in a couple of years. So that business is very good for us. And the other premium finance business, the commercial premium finance business, the average ticket sizes are stuck around $23,000, $24,000. In the old days, normal was $27,000. But we continue to pick up market share there, as evidenced by the growth in those balances. So that business goes very well. A little surprising in that business is how clean that portfolio is, Jon. It's the non -- we used to, in the old days, get late fees of 2%, 2.25%. And, Dave Stoehr, this quarter, they were?