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Worthington Industries, Inc. (WOR)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Sep 25, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. And welcome to the Worthington Industries' First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be able to listen-only until the question-and-answer session of the call. This conference is being recorded at the request of Worthington Industries. If anyone objects, you may disconnect at this time. I'd like to introduce Ms. Cathy Lyttle, Vice President of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations. Ms. Lyttle, you may begin.

Cathy Lyttle

Management

Good morning. Thanks for joining us on our first quarter earnings conference call. As a reminder, certain statements made on this call are forward-looking within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, and could cause actual results to differ from those suggested. Please review our earnings release issued yesterday evening for more detail on those factors. It could cause actual results to differ materially. If you'd like to listen to today's call again, a replay will be made available later on our website. On the call today, we have John McConnell, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Mark Russell, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Andy Rose, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. John will get it started.

John McConnell

Management

Thank you, Cathy. And also add my welcome and thank you all for joining us today. We are very pleased with the first quarter results. It’s one in which we accomplished our goal of increasing earnings quarter-over-quarter, year-over-year, which is what we want to do. Certainly, when you eliminate one-time charges from both ’14 and ’15 first quarters, we accomplished that goal. It’s also a pretty straight-forward quarter. So, let’s get started with the details and give it over to Andy Rose.

Andy Rose

Management

Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone. The company performed well in the first quarter of fiscal 2015, led by strong revenue and earnings growth in our Steel Processing division. Pressure Cylinders revenue was also up nicely, but earnings were hampered by several one-time items and some lingering operational issues in the Energy business. WAVE continues to increase earnings despite limited volume growth in commercial construction. Revenue was stabilized in Engineered Cabs, although higher costs are hampering a return to profitability. Quarterly earnings per share adjusted for restructuring was $0.65 per share, up $0.08 per share or 14% from the prior year quarter. Inventory holding gains were $0.02 per share as steel prices rose modestly during the quarter. The unique items during the quarter were as follows, Pressure Cylinders was negatively impacted by $1 million of purchase accounting and M&A fees, and $900,000 of stocking penalties, resulting from production inefficiencies as we consolidated two of our retail manufacturing facilities. Our tax rate was up materially to 32.8% for the quarter from the prior year, which benefited from several one-time discrete items. Restructuring charges of $2 million for the quarter were attributable to impairment of our Stainless division and Steel Processing. SG&A did increased $3.7 million this quarter, primarily from acquisitions, but as a percentage of sales, SG&A fell to 8.7% from 10.3%. Cylinders operating income was essentially flat year-over-year at $19.6 million, but it was impacted by the unique items mentioned above. Overall, we remain quite positive on a number of the growth opportunities in Cylinders, which Mark will cover in more detail. Steel Processing operating income, excluding restructuring charges, was up $15 million or 68% to $38 million from the prior year quarter. The prior year quarter only included one month of TWB's consolidated results versus three months this quarter.…

Mark Russell

Management

Thanks, Andy. Our Pressure Cylinders growth trend continued during the quarter with several areas of notable strength and some areas of what we believe will be temporary weakness. Cylinders is organizing into five market focused strategic business units. Industrial products, consumer products which we formerly called retail, alternative fuel products, oil and gas equipment, which we formerly called energy, and cryogenic products. In our Industrial Products business, sales were up 12% compared to last year as we continued our exit of the North American high pressure market and also as a result of continued general economic weakness in Europe. We continued to believe that exiting the North America high pressure market was the right strategic direction for this business. Consumer product sales increased 9% compared to last year though our financial results were negatively affected by the temporary costs and disruption of consolidating our Medina facility into the Chilton operation. Going forward, we still expect this business to realize significant costs and productivity benefits from the consolidation, which supports the home improvement industry and for market which remains on a positive trajectory based on continued home improvement spending growth. Alternative fuels growth continued in North America. The sales globally were down 10% from the quarter due to reduced demand in Europe where shipments of auto gas or propane cylinders has been negatively affected by weak overall economic conditions there. North America, however, continued to show aggressive adoption of compressed natural gas or CNG for Class 8 and refuse trucks and mass transit buses. This growth supports our continued capital investment to expand our existing CNG cylinder capacity in North America. Longer term, we believe CNG also has strong growth potential in Europe, which is why we recently expanded CNG cylinder capacity there in our Polish facility. In oil and gas…

John McConnell

Management

Mark and Andy, thank you. At this time, we are happy to take any questions you have.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Martin Englert from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Hi. Good morning everyone.

Andy Rose

Management

Good morning.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Just wanted to touch on the charges for the quarter quickly here. There was $2.1 million that was called up in the release related to impairment and restructuring. And then in the prepared remarks, you said there was another $1 million in purchase accounting fees that was within cylinders there?

Andy Rose

Management

It was $1 million total. Most of it was purchase accounting related to our most recent cylinder acquisition where we have to write up inventory and so essentially we make no profit on it. And then there was a small bucket of M&A fees that totaled $1 million.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. And there was another charge that you had mentioned, I must have missed that was $600,000….

Andy Rose

Management

$900,000 of essentially penalties charged by customers related to out of stock product.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay.

Andy Rose

Management

And that was really -- the cause of that was we consolidated two manufacturing facilities into one in our retail division and that consolidation had some hiccups.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Demand was stronger.

Mark Russell

Management

And demand outpaced our ability to service.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. And the $1 million purchase accounting fees that would have been about a penny a share?

Mark Russell

Management

Correct.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. And then, I just want to touch on Steel Processing and the cold-rolled coil spreads over hard rolled have been pretty strong recently. Are you seeing any benefit from that?

Mark Russell

Management

No. We generally don’t make money on price movements.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay.

Mark Russell

Management

We got that through pretty straight.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. How about the mix of activity within WAVE there? What does that look like recently versus where it was a quarter and a year ago?

Mark Russell

Management

You mean the volume in WAVE, it has been relatively flat.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. Stable for the most part.

Mark Russell

Management

Yeah. Are you talking about remodel versus new construction?

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Yeah. Are you seeing a shift there to greater work in new construction versus the remodeling?

Mark Russell

Management

No. No, we’ve been thinking that might happen, but it didn’t happen this quarter.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. And lastly there, if you have the share count -- diluted share count for quarter end?

Andy Rose

Management

Yeah. It was 69.7 million, roughly.

Martin Englert - Jefferies

Analyst

Okay. Excellent. Thank you.

Andy Rose

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Phil Gibbs from Keybanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Hey. Good Morning.

Mark Russell

Management

Morning.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Mark, did you say what your mix of tolling versus versus direct was in the quarter on the steel side?

Mark Russell

Management

No, we just said that there was a difference and which was up more. We can check that for you. Hang on. We will check that. Go ahead with your next part.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. And then, Andy, you had -- you had mentioned some operational issues in the Eastern oil and gas business. Any sense of magnitude that you could provide us there as far as that is concerned, and then it also sounds like a consolidation of the retail facilities involve some maybe higher costs than you would have otherwise experienced?

Andy Rose

Management

Yeah. I mean, are you looking for a dollar amount?

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Just looking for a feel of the magnitude, because I know the eastern oil and gas businesses have been running pretty well, so.

Andy Rose

Management

Correct. It is a few million.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay.

Andy Rose

Management

Financial impact is significant.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. So you got that there and then also on the retail side, what you may have seen there from your consolidation in the Medina facility.

Andy Rose

Management

Yeah. That’s one a little tougher to gauge, but that business certainly was impacted because of the production issues which caused higher costs, which also prevented them from shipping more product. So, I mean I don’t have a specific number for that one but if I had to take a swag at it, I’d say it’s probably somewhere between a $1 million and $2 million.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. And then that’s in and above the stocking penalty. That’s in excess of the stocking penalty you mentioned, the $900,000.

Andy Rose

Management

Correct.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay.

John McConnell

Management

And as Mark pointed out, you’ve got to combine that with the severe and unusual harshness of winter, which really drove demand for this product and that’s produced there.

Andy Rose

Management

Phil, back to your question on the split, it was 60-40 direct to toll, 60 direct, 40 toll.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. And I’m sorry, I may have missed it. Did you talk about what the holding gains were in the quarter, Andy?

Andy Rose

Management

$2 million.

Phil Gibbs - Keybanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.

Andy Rose

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Littlewood from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Nathan Littlewood - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Yeah. Good morning, guys. Just wondering if you might be able to provide a little more color on what you are seeing in the freight market at the moment. I understand that the bulk of your material would be moved on trucks, but are you exposed at all to the rail industry and what are you seeing in sort of terms of units, unit rates and trucking availability? Is that sort of constraining shipments at all or, are you able to access trucks but maybe just having to pay a bit more for them?

Mark Russell

Management

Nathan, that’s a great question because that is something that is different, and that’s just happening in the last couple of quarters where freight price has started to drive upward. We do use rail. We use rail primarily for shipments of primary coil. So things coming from a melting mill, we use rail there. Most of everything else downstream from there is truck, is little bit rail but mostly truck. We’ve not had a problem actually getting trucks with some rare exceptions. They are tight. We have a pretty good group that handles this for us and we don’t miss deliveries because we can’t find trucks but the prices are going up. And again, remember, the shortage is not really trucks, it is drivers. We had several of our carriers that we use a lot who have trucks that are idle at the moment because they don’t have driver. And again, the regulatory changes were driving this and it’s created a temporary shortage of drivers. As our Chairman always points out, the market fixes that. But until it does, it’s a tight market for freight.

Nathan Littlewood - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Sure. Thank you very much. Is there sort of an order of magnitude impact that could give us like year-on-year change in dollar per ton or dollar million freight cost or anything like that?

Andy Rose

Management

I think year-over-year we are probably couple of million dollars of increased cost, couple $3 million just specifically around freight.

Nathan Littlewood - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thanks very much guys. I appreciate the color.

John McConnell

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Tumazos from Very Independent Research. Please go ahead.

John Tumazos - Very Independent Research

Analyst

Congratulations on the good results. 6.5% of good margin for steel processing. It’s a good step on the way to double digits again.

John McConnell

Management

Thank you, sir.

John Tumazos - Very Independent Research

Analyst

How many days a quarter generally from a compliance standpoint are you able to buy back stock typically first question? Second question, the aluminum industry statistics suggest 2% or 3% increase in apparent consumption, where the steel statistics calendar year-to-date suggest 10.2% gain in apparent consumption, and the visibility of new aluminum applications could be a touch better than steel. Do you think -- are you concerned about inventory building by other people in the steel business and taking particular measures to project from the downside?

Andy Rose

Management

I will take the first question on stock repurchases because that one is a little easier. Typically, it’s a couple of months during the quarter that we don’t have an exact date every quarter that our window is open, but think about it is sort of six to eight weeks.

John McConnell

Management

John just let me make sure I understand your question. Do you think that because of momentum trends between supply and demand with more demand coming on the aluminum side that steel is in danger of getting some inventory overhang?

John Tumazos - Very Independent Research

Analyst

No. The aluminum data from the Aluminum Association, you just take out the aluminum situation forward, calculates a 2% or 3% gain in North America in apparent consumption. The steel data calculates a 10.2% gain. It’s unusual for those to diverge to that degree…

John McConnell

Management

Are you looking at flat and long, John?

John Tumazos - Very Independent Research

Analyst

The whole thing, just the total volume, continue board demand is zero change and other metals would suggest a gain like the aluminum. So it looks like four suppliers have gotten taken out by mergers. There is dumping suits, like superior frozen April, people blew up their steel mills, the usual stuff. So the customers are overbuying by a 1%?

John McConnell

Management

We would not have any visibility to that truly and have any -- when we able to have -- give you any data.

John Tumazos - Very Independent Research

Analyst

Are you doing anything to try to control your own inventory? Or are you just saying a good business and responding to it as best you can?

John McConnell

Management

We absolutely are taking every step to control our own inventory, and remember we don’t hold any speculative inventories. Our inventories are very tightly controlled between buys and purchases. We generally buy exactly when we sell and what we sell. We have in-process inventory only and we control that pretty tight.

John Tumazos - Very Independent Research

Analyst

Thank you. We appreciate your vigilance.

John McConnell

Management

Thank you, John.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Dan Whalen from Topeka Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Dan Whalen - Topeka Capital Markets

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Just wondering if you could just touch on your work regarding your automotive industry a little further. You mentioned steady volumes, but then it goes on to say about improving consumer confidence and strengthening economy and certain segments. So wasn’t sure when you are referring to steady if that steady is in terms of modest trends or steady in terms of recent trends so further improvements?

John McConnell

Management

We think the automotive market is strong. Some people do point that the fact is we got continued room to move. We think it’s a good place right now. We are not baking that into forecast that it will improve much further from here. We would love it if it did.

Dan Whalen - Topeka Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. So further improvement would be upside, but you’re kind of assuming kind of low-single digit to flattish type trends?

John McConnell

Management

Yes, sir.

Dan Whalen - Topeka Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. And I appreciate your commentary on the ag industrials. Wondering if could just add any more color to that? And then just one last question if I may. If you could just comment in terms of what kind of acquisition multiples you are seeing out there in the marketplace if that’s been a barrier to acquisition growth or was just finding the right company and the right niche?

Andy Rose

Management

This is Andy. With respect to acquisition multiples, this is going to sound maybe a little like I am dodging the question, but the reality is it depends on the type of business you are looking at and what you are buying, and so the spread can be pretty far. The one thing I will say is on the high end, right now if you’re buying a high quality business with double-digit EBITDA margins and it’s a competitive process, the multiples are -- can be as high as 8 to 10 times EBITDA, which is pretty steep. Most of you know we try to be pretty price disciplined and so that makes it difficult for attractive businesses. We have been successful. The last couple of transactions that we found we’ve been able to structure the deal such that we’re not paying those types of multiples, but it’s getting harder for sure.

Mark Russell

Management

John, your question about agricultural demand, we’re selling to ag and two businesses, in steel and in cabs. And I can tell you that within steel, it’s our weakest segment right now and that’s just based on current demand and forecast we’re getting from our current customers. And cabs, it’s the second weakest, the only thing that will be more weak in cabs would be mining.

Dan Whalen - Topeka Capital Markets

Analyst

Correct. If I may just ask one more, do you -- I mean, where certainly it seems like flattish trends there on the cab side of the business taking cost out of the systems? Do you have targets that you would be comfortable saying when you get that business back to profitability?

John McConnell

Management

No. The hope is obviously that our efforts combined with a market that starts to improve over the next 12 to 18 months, but we don’t have a specific target.

Dan Whalen - Topeka Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

John McConnell

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Phil Gibbs from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Phil Gibbs - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Yeah. Just had a question on some of the organic investments that you’re making this year. As far as internal growth CapEx, what should we be thinking about there? And as far as what you’re targeting and what you’re working on right now?

Mark Russell

Management

Well, those tend to be focused in the cylinders business in those high growth markets. So we’re putting capital into cylinder capacity both in the U.S. and Europe for alternative fuels. Within the steel business, it’s focused on the joint ventures that are focused on high-strength lightweight steel. So TWB and WSP are some of the major recipients of capital there. Again, we’re looking -- we’re expanding capacity and those markets are growing fast.

John McConnell

Management

And the only one I’ll add that Mark did mention as we’re building a facility in Turkey specifically to build cryogenic products for that space.

Mark Russell

Management

That actually will be our single largest capital spend for the fiscal year, the Turkey facility.

Phil Gibbs - KeyBanc Capital Markets

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Mark Russell

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Aldo Mazzaferro from Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Aldo Mazzaferro - Macquarie

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, gentlemen.

Mark Russell

Management

Good morning.

Aldo Mazzaferro - Macquarie

Analyst

I got two questions on it. First one on the steel side, I know you’re not big buyers of imports on a regular basis, but have you noticed any changes in the aggressiveness of imports, since we’ve had the dollar strengthening a little and since we’ve had prices fall in China and Russia is being threatened with sanctions and things. Are there changes in the import part that you’re willing to share with us at this point?

Mark Russell

Management

Yes, I think there is a lot of changes in the import market. And you are right that we don’t buy a lot of imported material. And, however, we always check it. We always keep our pulse on it. And it is followed right now as it’s been in years, I think. There are so many things; different things going on right now that there is a lot of volatility in the import markets, depending on which one you’re talking about. You mentioned some of the worst ones.

Aldo Mazzaferro - Macquarie

Analyst

Yeah. Are there still those persistence stories around? Are trade cases being filed in any minute or any week or so?

Mark Russell

Management

And it’s got to the point now where just the thread of the width of it, seems to affect pricing. And so that’s kind of a patchy situation.

Aldo Mazzaferro - Macquarie

Analyst

Great. All right. My next question, Mark, on the breakdown you gave us on the cylinders, very appreciative. I like the diversity but can you give us a little bit of a sense of what the breakdown in revenues might be in terms of percentage of revenues by those five divisions that you broke out?

Mark Russell

Management

I think, we actually published that in our quarterly investor review. So it will come out probably in the next week or so and you’ll see that breakdown.

Aldo Mazzaferro - Macquarie

Analyst

Okay. I thought there was -- okay. No matter, I’ll find it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) And at this time, there are no further questions.

John McConnell

Management

Thank you. And again, thank you all for coming today. We are very bullish as we look forward throughout the rest of fiscal ’15. Steel is going to continue its strong performance that it’s currently showing. Cylinders, as it settles with a pretty massive organizational change, as it continues to integrate the recent acquisitions, is going to continue to improve throughout the year. So, again, we look forward to a good rest of ’15, where we will continue to earn better than we did in ’14. Thank you again for joining us. We will talk to you in the quarter.

Operator

Operator

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