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Advanced Drainage Systems, Inc. (WMS)

Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 5, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Advanced Drainage Systems' First Quarter Fiscal Year 2022 Financial Earnings Results Conference Call. My name is Tiffany, and I am your operator for today's call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the presentation over to your host for today's call, Mr. Mike Higgins, Vice President of Corporate Strategy and Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Michael Higgins

Analyst

Good morning. With me today, I have Scott Barbour, our President and CEO; and Scott Cottrill, our CFO. I would also like to remind you that we will discuss forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements because of various factors, including those discussed in our press release and the risk factors identified in our Form 10-K filed with the SEC. While we may update forward-looking statements in the future, we disclaim any obligation to do so. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, all of which speak only as of today. Lastly, the press release we issued earlier this morning is posted on the Investor Relations section of our website. A copy of the release has also been included in an 8-K submitted to the SEC. We will make a replay of this conference call available via webcast on the company website. With that said, I'll turn the call over to Scott Barbour.

D. Barbour

Analyst

Thanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on today's call. We achieved a record $669 million of sales in the first quarter, 32% growth over last year. Growth was split fairly evenly, weighted a little bit more to favorable pricing than volume growth. Demand remained strong at both ADS and in Infiltrator throughout our end markets and geographic footprint. In addition, international sales increased 82% this quarter with growth in our Canadian, Mexican and exports businesses. Our backlog and pace of orders remain favorable as well as our ability to capture price in the market, giving us confidence in the updated sales targets we issued today. We have issued several price increases since late last year to cover inflationary cost pressure, and we'll continue to use our leading market position in that respect as well as ADS and Infiltrator's scale position in material procurement and recycling operations to procure material at the best possible cost and availability. Moving to profitability. Our adjusted EBITDA increased 4% on a dollar basis given -- again, driven by the favorable pricing and strong volume growth. The price increases we issued over the last 10 months largely covered the inflationary pressure on materials and diesel. There are additional headwinds related to driver availability, an increase in the use of common carrier and an increase in common carrier rates that we are working to offset. We remain confident in our ability to identify and execute the right mitigation programs and expand our margins over time. Material prices started to rise in October 2020, increasing more significantly as a result of the winter storms that hit the Gulf region in February of 2021. In the first quarter, our material cost per pound increased significantly compared to the prior year. Additionally, in the second…

Scott Cottrill

Analyst

Thanks, Scott. On Slide 6, we present our first quarter fiscal 2020 financial performance. There are some key points that I want to hit on from a results perspective. Obviously, from a top line perspective, we had significant growth year-over-year, driven by both pricing and volume. Legacy ADS pipe products grew 42% and Allied Products sales grew 13%. Infiltrator sales increased 24% with double-digit sales growth in both tanks and leach field products. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA increased 4.5% to $167 million resulting in an adjusted EBITDA margin of 24.9% in the quarter, down from 31.4% in the first quarter of fiscal 2021. Scott discussed in detail the actions we have taken around the largest drivers of the margin compression: materials, labor and transportation inflation as well as the labor availability. Material costs are at the highest levels in recent memory and have continued to increase sequentially month-to-month throughout this year. We've issued 2 more price increases since the end of our fiscal first quarter, one in July and another just last week. We will hit the full run rate of the announced price increases that today in our fiscal third quarter. From an SG&A perspective, the first quarter results contain approximately $2 million of wages, travel, medical and other expenses that were not incurred last year due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In addition, commission expense increased in line with the sales growth we experienced in the first quarter year-over-year. In summary, we have good line of sight to the cost impacting us and have actions in place to offset such as we move through the year. Based on the timing of these actions, we expect to see most of this improvement in the second half of our fiscal year. The long-term fundamentals of the business are still intact, and we…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Michael Halloran with Baird.

Michael Halloran

Analyst

So let's start on the demand side. Maybe just talk about sequentials through the quarter, what that visibility looks like moving forward across the various industries you serve? And what your client base is saying? And any kind of thoughts on visibility/sustainability on the demand side? It certainly feels like you're very confident. I'd just like to hear a little more detail on it.

D. Barbour

Analyst

Mike, this is Scott Barbour. And all of our segments are up. The retail is a little weaker, but our order rate in the core nonresidential, residential, Infiltrator agriculture businesses on a pound volume basis remains double digit. And it's -- I don't hear our customers, either the distribution or contractor level, talk about demand disruption. What they talk about is availability of product. So we're pretty confident in that kind of rolling forward and being able to execute on this backlog.

Michael Halloran

Analyst

And then let's talk on the flip side of the coin then. Obviously, the leverage was a challenge in the quarter. Could you try to bucket out for us how much of this was just the price cost lag that's materializing given the rapid inflation? How much is all the network repositioning that you need to do to make sure you're meeting the customer demand? How much is the transportation piece? Could you just give us some directional sense for where the -- how those pressure points lined out?

D. Barbour

Analyst

Well, maybe, probably Scott, see how well you can take this one, but the one that really came on hard and fast was the transportation. And it was really kind of complicated to unwind as we got into May and June. Number one, we're having to run more on common carrier fleet than our fleet than we've traditionally done, and that's because of the driver shortage versus our plan. And that shortage was driven by retirements, difficulty in hiring. I mean all things that we got to go work on, right, that one and then the rate at which it costs us to get a common carrier. And we have pretty good relationships and contractual type of things with these folks. But it was just a -- that we came on hard. And then I don't know what happened in June in the country, but the movement of labor and ability to attract labor just really changed from, let's call it, that April, May into June, July time frame. And we've done things. It's gotten a little bit better here recently, but it was a big digestion that came on us there in that period of time. As far as the price increase timing, Scott, do you want -- Scott's been working that very hard.

Scott Cottrill

Analyst

Yes, I think for the quarter, Mike, it's basically one of those items that we stayed in front of it. But again, from an incremental margin perspective on that, obviously dilutive from a margin perspective. But again, from a dollar perspective, stayed in front of us. We've been, again, in the market with 2 price increases since the end of the quarter, as we mentioned. So yes, we got the labor issue on both the manufacturing and transportation side of the house. We've got the common carrier usage and common carrier rates. That's all still coming at us as we go through the next couple of quarters at least. And that's why we're getting the pricing into the market. So...

D. Barbour

Analyst

Which has a lag effect.

Scott Cottrill

Analyst

Yes. So out line of sight as we look forward through the year, that's why we're confident in getting that revenue guidance up to the level that we're talking to and staying in front of not just material cost, which again sequentially month over month continues to go up, but as well as the labor inefficiencies as well as transportation cost and a lot of that we'll see coming in, in the second half.

Michael Halloran

Analyst

So to be clear here, then the price increases that you're putting through in the marketplace are designed to cover all of these inflationary pressures you just suggested. And that's why when you hit the third quarter -- fiscal third quarter, plus or minus, you should start seeing a lot more favorability in terms of the cumulative price cost metrics and what those margin metrics might look like just as the catch-up starts materializing based on what we know right now. Obviously, inflation can continue and that can make it more challenging to push that out. But is that a fair way to...

D. Barbour

Analyst

You got it spot on. That is the right way to think about it.

Michael Halloran

Analyst

And that's why when I think about a typical cadence to the year-end margins, fiscal 1Q, 2Q, your peak quarters revenue tends to fade a little bit. That's why we might see a different relative margin cadence through the year than we might normally see?

D. Barbour

Analyst

Absolutely. Correct.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Bouley with Barclays.

Matthew Bouley

Analyst · Barclays.

Following up on the last one because it sounds like the price expectation is there in terms of covering these cost issues. But Scott B, at the top, you mentioned a few sort of operational changes you're making beyond price. I'm curious if you could maybe expand on that a little bit? And kind of what you see is -- I don't know if you can quantify anything, but anything around the ability for some of these operational changes you're making to offset the cost issues as well and kind of what might be the lasting impact of some of those changes as we think about '22?

D. Barbour

Analyst · Barclays.

So I did go through kind of our focus list of operational things that we're working. And A lot of those are designed and try to make it simpler, reduce SKUs, reduce changeovers even more than we already have, to increase throughput, make it easier as we go through a pretty significant hiring and some turnover that the new hires do tend to turn over faster. And so that's all designed to kind of get throughput up, which will give us better productivity per labor hour. And that's an important thing, mainly that additional capacity. I'd also add to that, that we've done this, and we've exercised many of these techniques in those 3 kind of parts of our business, one in Canada in the agriculture region, and they work very well. And getting those replicated in our network is what we're really working on, particularly in a couple of places where we've got kind of get focused. Those are lasting initiatives, Matthew, I mean, those things will be there forever as well as many of the other kind of procurement activities that we do in nonresi and churning underneath. A lot of the transportation things the move to another region where we've done a 3PL partnership for their retail delivery and freed up fleet capacity for trade deliveries, we're now doing that in 2 regions very successfully, again, lasting impact, replicate that in other regions as we go through. I wish we could do it all at once. It's not like [ fingers ], but it takes a lot of time and planning for team to kind of get those into place. So those are all kind of permanent things, permanent improvements we can make. Now, we'll have to use those to offset the wage increases that we've seen beyond the normal in the future. I don't think that's a transitory type of thing. I think the material will flatten out and go back down, but the timing of that is very unknown to us or anyone, I think. So those might -- that one might be a bit more transitory as the common carrier rate piece. But this trucking and driver availability and all that, I don't think that's a totally short-term issue. I think that one is going to be when we have to continue to work against. So I hope that was helpful a little color underneath those.

Matthew Bouley

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes, very much. That's exactly what I was looking for. And certainly understood around what you're saying there around common carriers and trucking and all that. So if I think back a few years when -- after the, for example, the hurricanes in Texas and you saw a big spike in materials in the subsequent months, and you guys were able to largely offset that with price. If you can kind of educate us on some of the history? In this scenario, if we ever get to the other side of all this, and again, I hear we're saying around common carriers that, that may take a little longer. But if we ever get the materials at least flattening out or deflating, how you think about price in that scenario? You've taken multiple price increases and you got more to come. To what degree are you able to kind of hold on to margin in a scenario where you eventually get deflation?

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Barclays.

So look -- I think FY '18 and fall of 2017, hurricane hits, we get pricing up, very impactful in our second half, and we had a very good second half, made the year. I think a little different. I didn't have my transportation and my labor moving on that same time out. It was kind of fighting at one front war in that one. And we held on to that and we largely built upon that over the last couple of years -- last 3 years, I'd say very successfully. We're doing some models on the impact of if we can hold on to 90% of that, 80% of that, 70% of that. I don't think we're going to be able to hold on to all of it as successfully as we did in the past. But I like our chances of holding on to the vast majority of it as we go forward. Now, we'll have to balance that against our share gain activities, plus balance that against some other things. But certainly, that's our go to.

D. Barbour

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes. I would say it's not a question of holding on to margins, Matt, as you verbalized it, it's more of the magnitude of the ability to expand margins in that scenario. So...

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Barclays.

Build our programs back.

D. Barbour

Analyst · Barclays.

Exactly. So I mean it's going to be in all of the CI and lean initiatives that Scott went through plus the pricing. And then again, as you've said over the years, you know the playbook. But this is unprecedented times and price increases, we will give some of it back. But from a margin expansion perspective, the playbook, yes, we know how to work that.

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes, we'll continue to do that.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Josh Pokrzywinski with Morgan Stanley.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

So just on the markets themselves because I think we could probably talk about inflation all day and it feels like from maybe some of your peers out there, pretty much all we do all earnings season. But the -- Scott, if I go back to last year, you guys held up a lot better than kind of the rest of the nonresi-facing market with the share gains, the kind of bias to the crescent more horizontal construction. I think we're seeing the broader market kind of bounce back a little bit more. Is that something you guys are seeing? Is there any kind of lapping effect of maybe some of those areas of strength from last year like warehouse and data center that are kind of moderating the volume growth, can you just sort of contextualize how your markets are sort of bouncing back maybe relative to the census data?

D. Barbour

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Yes. So that is all intact. I mean the crescent remains very strong. In addition, New England, the Northeast, the Northwest, which are really good territory for us bounced back really quite strong. So I think we're up in every region. And agriculture business also remains very strong. The only place that weakened was the sales to the do-it-yourself kind of channel, which is understandable given how much it was up last year and we were glad to have it last year. So we remain very bullish on that warehouse. You guys see the data just like we do, tremendous construction, pulled forward to build these warehouses. We remain very bullish on residential. We had our Board of Directors at Infiltrator for the last 2 days, 2.5 days. And that is going great guns as well as the pipe business, the services, the residential at ADS, that horizontal construction that follows that residential remains strong. And we're in a position now across our product lines where we build and ship. And so that's why there's capital investment. These productivity initiatives are so important because everything we build right now, we can't move out the door quick...

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

It goes on a truck.

D. Barbour

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

It goes a truck.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Got it. And then I guess just sort of related to that point, given that you guys are pretty busy little bottlenecks, presumably with kind of the more concrete-based alternatives out there, I would imagine that capacity is sort of a little bit more fungible or maybe flexible, like is there anything in terms of kind of that share gain or selling in the story to the right folks that has gotten delayed at all as a function of, "Hey, we're just -- we're too busy as the contractors," or "Hey, you guys have longer than normal lead times" that is sort of throwing that off a little bit here in the short term?

D. Barbour

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

I think the lead time issue is definitely there. It's not pervasive in every territory or every contract or something like that. But definitely, is only times it lengthen more than we'd like. There's no doubt that, that gives us a chance for a concrete alternative in that. I don't think it's going to damage our share gain story long term. But you're correct, I mean it's under a little stress right now. But that said, we got to service our customers in the ones that have been loyal to us and that they're kind of that core customer base. So I think every one of our regional managers has been, I would say, talk to us about, "I have an account that I've been trying to gain for several years, this is the opportunity to do it?" In some cases, we've had to pick the past and that hurts no doubt. But fundamentally, it's not going to damage our story, I don't believe.

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

When you look at the -- Josh, when you look at the strength of the order book and the order activity that we've seen as well, the quoting, the coming through our digital design tools. And to Scott's point, the lead times are going out. So we're still seeing really, really strong demand. And yes, on the [ fringe ], you see that. But really good activity.

D. Barbour

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

We question whether there are enough contractors out there to install everything on order in the industry.

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Exactly.

D. Barbour

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Or with us, in particular, but until we ship it, they can put it.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Garik Shmois with Loop Capital.

Garik Shmois

Analyst · Loop Capital.

First off, just on the costs that you're adding with respect to labor and capacity, I guess, just to be clear, are these costs contemplated in your guidance? And how should they end up pacing as the year progresses? Is this kind of isolated it's 2Q or you anticipating to add the labor capacity cost for the balance of the year?

D. Barbour

Analyst · Loop Capital.

Yes. Garik, Scott here. I would say, basically, our guidance assumes that the level of the labor, inefficiencies, transportation costs and headwinds they stay with us. So we've kind of assumed that, that higher cost bases kind is with us for a while. And hence, the need, desire and actions we took related to pricing, both at the end of our fiscal Q1 as well as the 2 subsequent pricing increases afterwards. So again, when we look at pricing, absolutely material costs are one of the first things we look at, but it's the value proposition, it's what's coming at us on labor, transportation, et cetera, and make sure that we can go get that value in that return/so it's all in. When we look at it further for all of the remaining year in that line.

Garik Shmois

Analyst · Loop Capital.

Okay. Got it. And then just wanted to drill down by segment a little bit more. Obviously, it looks like the margin pressure in the quarter was the most pronounced in pipe. Some of the other businesses actually held in reasonably well compared to last year. So I think you cited a couple of factors that may be specific to pipe. I just wanted to be clear on that with respect to the rationalization, some of the transportation inflation. I just want to be clear that those headwinds are more specific to pipe? Or should we anticipate that maybe some of the margin headwinds that hit pipe are just coming for some of the other divisions. It's just a timing issue?

D. Barbour

Analyst · Loop Capital.

I don't think there are timing issues. That's a good question, so it's Scott B. And the pipe part of our business is the most transportation-intensive of all those product lines. If you think about it, you ship a lot of [ air ]. There's less dollars per load than on an Infiltrator product or an allied product. So that kind of makes sense to it. Those products saw rises in transportation costs, but they were easier to kind of see and offset with the pricing. And the pipe network is also spread out for that reason. The production tends to be a little bit more localized. So you run into those localized wage rate issues, difficulty getting labor, all these kinds of things, although that's been at all locations [indiscernible]. But I don't think this is a case -- we saw first in pipe and it spreads to the others, that's not what's happening. You just -- what you're seeing in there is just the transportation intensity of that pipe manufacturing in that pipe network.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Michael Halloran with Baird.

Michael Halloran

Analyst · Baird.

So I bought some stock back on the quarter. Obviously, the internal investment side is priority one and ramping CapEx, trying to manage the network appropriately. And I certainly understand that. But how are you guys thinking about balancing the external usage of capital at this point, buyback versus M&A? And then, also on the M&A side, just some thoughts of what the actionability in the pipeline looks like?

D. Barbour

Analyst · Baird.

So we've got a lot of capital [ raise it up ] and that remains our #1 priority and -- because obviously, we need that. We have a couple of actionable things we're working on right now in the M&A pipeline. They'll develop as they develop, but we love them both. There are -- once we get through this tranche, we'll go back and have another discussion on the share buyback with our Board of Directors, and we'll make an assessment kind of the organic M&A, what does the market look like at that point? How do we feel about to go forward? Is everything doing like we said we were going to get it done? And we'll make another decision on that one. But we felt that the buyback was a good use of cash because it was kind of building up on our balance sheet. We had plenty of liquidity to do anything we saw in the reasonable timeframe, and we remain very confident in the cash-generating capabilities of the company. So that's how we talked about it internally with the Board, Mike.

Scott Cottrill

Analyst · Baird.

And I think that point that Scott hit on during the opening comments, we're still making a lot of investments from a capital expenditure, organic investment, if you will, perspective, to stay in front of that great growth in that order book and backlog that we have there. But as well as those productivity and automation initiatives that we have. So a lot of that investment remains our #1 followed by M&A. And then to Scott's point, we'll decide on the kind of distribution side of that part as to what our opportunities look like and what our forecast looks like as we move forward.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions in queue at this time. Presenters, are there any closing remarks?

D. Barbour

Analyst

Thank you all very much for joining us today. We appreciate the quality of your questions and insights that you all have in the company. We have -- clearly, thrilled with the sales and the volume and the [ question ] side of it. We're operating very well in several parts. There are some other things we had to go work on, but that's what we do. And we'll continue to kind of work through those a little bit different cadence and profitability this year versus last year, but I think still building on the right place. So we appreciate it and look forward to speaking with you all again soon.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.