Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Willdan Group Third Quarter 2017 Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. And at this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Tony Rossi. Please go ahead, sir.
Willdan Group, Inc. (WLDN)
Q3 2017 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 3, 2017
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Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Willdan Group Third Quarter 2017 Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. And at this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Tony Rossi. Please go ahead, sir.
Tony Rossi
Management
Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone and thank you for joining us to discuss Willdan Group's financial results for the third quarter ended September 29, 2017. With us today from management are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Thomas Brisbin; Chief Financial Officer, Stacy McLaughlin; and Mike Bieber, President of Willdan Group. Management will review prepared remarks and we will then open up the call to your questions. Statements made in the course of today's conference call which are not purely historical, are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The forward-looking statements involve certain risks and uncertainties and it is important to note that the company's future results could differ materially from those in any such forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause actual results to differ materially and other risk factors are listed from time to time in the company's SEC reports, including, but not limited to, the Form 10-K for the year ended December 30, 2016 and subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The company cautions investors not to place undue reliance on the forward-looking statements made during the course of this conference call. Willdan Group disclaims any obligation and does not undertake to update or revise any forward-looking statements made today. In addition to GAAP financial results, Willdan also provides non-GAAP financial measures that we believe enhance investors' ability to analyze our business trends and performance. Our non-GAAP measures include revenue net of subcontractor services and other direct costs and EBITDA. We believe revenue net of subcontractor services and other direct costs allows for an improved measure of the revenue derived from the work performed by our employees. EBITDA is a supplemental measure of operating performance, which removes the impact of certain nonrecurring income and expense items from our operating results. GAAP reconciliations for both of these non-GAAP measures are included at the end of the earnings release we issued today. With that, I will now turn the call over to Chief Financial Officer, Stacy McLaughlin. Stacy?
Stacy McLaughlin
Management
Thanks, Tony. I'd like to add my welcome to those joining us on today's call. I'll start with an overview of our income statement, then our balance sheet and finally, our guidance. Total contract revenue for the third quarter of 2017 increased 17.6% to $69 million from $58.7 million for the third quarter of 2016. By segment, including both organic and acquisitive revenue, Energy Efficiency Services revenue increased 19.2% to $50 million; Engineering Services contract revenue increased 16.1% to $15 million; revenue from Public Finance Services increased 2.3% to $3.3 million; and Homeland Security Services revenue increased 27.7% to $724,000 in the quarter. Our total contract revenue included incremental contract revenue of $0.5 million attributable to the acquisition of Integral Analytics, which is in our Energy Efficiency Services revenue. The organic growth rate was 16% over the prior year period. Net revenue, defined as contract revenue minus subcontractor services and other direct costs, was $31.7 million, an increase of 19.5% from $26.5 million in the year-ago quarter. Direct costs of contract revenue were $48.7 million for the third quarter of 2017, an increase of 14.5% from $42.6 million in the same period last year. The increase was primarily as a result of the growth in total contract revenue in the Energy Efficiency Services segment and the corresponding increase in subcontractor services and material costs related to the implementation of new contracts. Our direct costs of contract revenue were 70.6% of our total contract revenue in the third quarter of 2017, down from 73.8% in the second quarter of 2017. As we discussed in our last few conference calls, we believed that the percentage of subcontractor services and other direct costs would trend downward. This quarter demonstrated this trend. As we move from 58% subcontractor services and other direct costs to…
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Thanks, Stacy and good afternoon, everyone. We had another good quarter with positive trends. We had strong year-over-year increases in revenue, operating income, EPS and EBITDA, which is largely being driven by the performance of our Energy Efficiency and Engineering Service segments. From a client perspective, the major contributions to our revenue were largely consistent with what we have seen throughout 2017. The notable differences are primarily related to more work with end-users. These include hospitals, medical facilities, financial institutions, schools, real estate, and examples of program to implement energy efficiency upgrades at Wells Fargo branches across the country. As a result, we are seeing a more diversified revenue mix than we have historically experienced. The increase in these types of end-user projects reflects the strong performance contracting capabilities that we have built over the past few years. We are incorporating our performance contracting groups into the business development efforts of our utility and municipal business units. The collaboration across the company has led to many cross-selling successes. Within our energy efficiency programs for utilities we continue to execute well, and deliver the energy savings that we are targeting. As a result, we have won all of the recompetes that have come up for bid this year, and the outlook for this area in the business continues to be strong. We continue to see more work coming from different areas of the country. At the same time, the opportunities to expand our business within California are substantial. As we announced earlier this year, we have been awarded two new master service contracts to perform energy efficiency and water conservation upgrades in facilities management by the state of California’s Department of General Services. These contracts have the potential to contribute meaningful revenue over the next eight years, and we have received…
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And we'll take our first question from Mike Shlisky with Seaport Global.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Good afternoon everybody. I kind of want – can you hear me okay, by the way?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
We can.
Stacy McLaughlin
Management
Yes. Hi.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Okay, great.
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Mike, we can hear you.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
All right. Perfect. Thank you so much. I wanted to start off by just looking into your guidance just for one quick second here, maybe I am looking at this wrong if I calculate it, but are you guiding to a revenue decline in the fourth quarter, is there any reason why that might be the case with a very tough comp from last year?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Hi, Mike. If you look at our updated guidance, we raised the top and bottom end of guidance, 2.55 to 2.65. If you just do the pro forma we had a very strong Q4 last year, especially from engineering. We had some unexpected revenue there. If you do the math, there is a slight decline in Q4. We don't know that that will occur as we beat guidance on revenue I think for each of the last six or seven quarters, but when you are going into Q4, you often don't know what kind of year-end spending the customers, especially the large utilities have. You don't see that until November and December. So, this represents a view as we see it today, and we are optimistic that we are going to continue our good growth trends.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Okay, got you. So, then – I mean, then more broadly speaking do you feel good that the organic growth rates are still pretty much [indiscernible] double digits, maybe [indiscernible], but certainly that's the general trend in most quarters going forward?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Yes, that is correct.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Okay. Just wanted to make sure. Going even broader here, I wanted to talk about next week for election day, are there any states or cities that you are watching that have some kind of referendum out there on changes to their local energy policy? Or is there any candidate you are watching that you might be looking at a more favorable tone towards what you do for your [work] over there?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Our answer would be no, we don't see any of the elections affecting anything we do. We are watching what is going on in the tax world, hoping that our tax credits for energy get passed before the end of the year, but that is the only political thing that we are watching.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Got you. Then I want to just touch on the IA business, I'm wondering if you can share your impressions now that you have owned that for a couple of months now? What is your first impression kind of seeing it on a more granular level, [indiscernible]?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Broke up a little bit on that one. Did you hear it Mike?
Michael Bieber
Analyst
He just wanted to talk about IA?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
IA.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Yes, I was just curious if you could tell us, now that you owned that for a couple of months, kind of now that you have seen it a little more closely, are there any big changes, I guess satisfied with what you have seen so far, kind of your thoughts as to what has been surprising to you over the first two months of ownership?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
We haven't made any changes to the business. We have integrated the back office. We did that actually before we closed the transaction. So they are on our accounting system. We have had a lot of collaboration with IA on the new bids that we are going after. And I guess the one thing that we are actually seeing is that clients when we go to oral interviews respond very positively to the ideas that we can put forth using IA tools and concepts about modeling different scenarios. A lot of these ideas are new to these utility customers, and so that is what we are seeing. They are very impressed with that and we think it is a good technical differentiator.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Okay, got it. I also wanted to touch on the subcontractor percentage, you did promise it would come down this quarter, you are certainly delivering on that. Nicely done, I kind of want to get a sense as to where you think – is there additional step down happening in Q4 or next year, or have you reached an appropriate level that you are looking for [indiscernible]?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
You are right. It did go from 58% to 54% just like we thought it would. We thought it would trend down. We think it is going to continue to trend down over the next three or four quarters, it will trend slowly down. So if we lose 1% or 2% here or there over the next couple of quarters that is sort of what we would expect. Don't be surprised if it moves around a little bit each quarter up or down, but the trend line over multiple quarters should follow exactly what you have seen in the last four quarters, which is that it has come down about 5%.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Got you. One last one from me if you don't mind, on the amortization expenses, I saw a pretty big jump up in the goodwill, obviously, it [indiscernible] M&A, is the 1.05 you saw this past quarter, is that the appropriate run rate going forward or just a full quarter needed there at IA in the fourth quarter and beyond for your amortization costs?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Yes. We had IA for two of the three months. It is close to – you could do a pro rata calculation, as you will see the data in our Q to get the full period effect of IA, but yes, that is our early estimate and we don't expect it to move around too much in the out quarters other than the pro rata portion of the quarter that they were with us.
Mike Shlisky
Analyst
Okay, super. I will hop back in queue. Thanks so much everybody.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And we will take our next question from John Quealy with Canaccord Genuity.
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Hi, good afternoon folks. Congratulations on the quarter. A couple of questions, Tom on the outsourcing initiatives in California, thanks for the update around potential first awards, can you just remind us some of the milestones in the process, is this past the PUC, have RFPs been issued by the constituent IOUs yet, where are we on some of the nuts and bolts of that outlook that you gave earlier?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
The final business plans have not been approved by the PUC. We are expecting that in November. A schedule is publicly available for all of the programs and a schedule for when they expect procurements for all the major utilities in California. So our best guess is it does get passed to November, and we start to see the first procurements first quarter next year. And generally that is a 10 to 12 month award cycle. And then they stretch out about – I think it adds up to around $600 million worth of procurements over 2018 into ’19.
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Got you, okay. Thanks for that recap. And while I have…
Thomas Brisbin
Management
I just want to make sure I said – I thought of another number. I said $600 million. Go ahead.
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Okay, thanks. So, Tom, while I have you a bigger question on – you brought up tax policy, so talk about – I mean, obviously the federal tax regime is hard to speculate on, but some of the things that we saw today, talk about some of the things that you are focusing on, obviously – I think you mentioned like a 179 D or something or makers. That is a big part of the business side of the initial version of the tax plan in terms of 100% expensing, does that apply at all to your business and then also, who knows what they do with the ITC PTC, but at least the initial draft had some inflation adjustments coming out of it. Does that impact your utility related business or obviously we are driven by state rate case economics, just help us put in what you are looking for in these tax changes, and then really what drives the business, or there is a risk to the business if there is anything?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Let us first address 179. And where did you say it is going to go to legislation next week?
Michael Bieber
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Correct. It is in the bill right now. It is in the house that will be reviewed on Monday. We don't know if that is going to pass as it has every year for I know for 17 or 18 years in a row, however, even if it doesn't pass, the corporate tax reform is likely to lower everyone's tax rate down to the 25%. So whether it is 25% or 30%, the 179 D or everyone's corporate tax rate is lowered. Those seem to be the two most likely outcomes at this point.
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Those are the two things we are watching.
Michael Bieber
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Yes.
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Got you. Right. And in terms of your projects on energy efficiency or distributed energy resources, thus far the projects that you have done or the projects that you are pitching, do they – how heavily did they rely on federal ITC PTC, if at all?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Not at all.
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Okay. And then, the last question back I think to the earlier comment on IA and your relative happiness with it just three or four months in, is that sort of $10 million revenue bogey, is that still what you are thinking at this point, and if you don't mind just coloring that in a little bit?
Thomas Brisbin
Management
We still got that on the books, yes, $10 million.
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
Okay.
Thomas Brisbin
Management
You want more detail than that?
John Quealy
Analyst · Canaccord Genuity.
All right. No, no. Just your conviction in it. That is good. That is good, Tom. All right, thank you.
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Okay.
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We will take our next question from Ariel Hughes with Wedbush.
Ariel Hughes
Analyst · Wedbush.
Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. So on the energy tax credit, just – what is the full likelihood that you guys see that credit next quarter, and then just as a follow-up, how should we think about your tax rate, going into 2018? Do you base expect to be awarded this tax credit again in 2018?
Stacy McLaughlin
Management
Well, I can't really speak to the likelihood of whether or not the tax credit will be passed for this year. It has been passed, as Mike said, every year for the past so many years, and we would hope that that would happen again this year. But as to the likelihood of that, I don't think I can make an opinion on that. We are utilizing other tax credits to help keep the tax rate down such as R&D and California Competes and the like. So next year, we will continue to do that moving forward to help keep that rate down, and ideally the 179 D would also go into effect next year as well. But we wouldn't obviously know that until either they pass it this year, or again next year.
Ariel Hughes
Analyst · Wedbush.
Got it. Thanks for taking my questions.
Stacy McLaughlin
Management
You are welcome.
Operator
Operator
I am showing no other questions. I would like to turn the call back to management for any closing remarks.
Thomas Brisbin
Management
Okay, thank you. I would like to thank all of you for participating on our call today and for your continued interest in Willdan, and have a great day.
Operator
Operator
And that concludes today's conference. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.