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Workhorse Group Inc. (WKHS)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 6, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, greetings, and welcome to Workhorse Group's Second Quarter 2018 Investor Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Workhorse President and Chief Operating Officer, Mr. Duane Hughes. Thank you. Mr. Hughes, you may begin.

Duane Hughes

Management

Thank you, Kevin and good afternoon everyone. We appreciate all of you for taking the time to join us for our call. After the market closed, we issued a press release and filed our Form 10-Q with our results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2018. Copies of both documents are available in the Investor Relations section of our Web site. In a few moments, I’m going to turn the call over to our CFO, Paul Gaitan, who will provide a brief Q2 overview, as well as walk you through our financial results for the quarter. After that, our CEO Steve Burns will come online to provide an update on our business and touch on some of our operational milestones and highlights from the quarter. But before we begin, I want to call your attention to our safe harbor provision for forward-looking statements that is posted on our Web site and is part of our year-end update. The safe harbor provision identifies risk factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the content of our forward-looking statements. Our 2017 Form 10-K and other periodic filings on file with the SEC provide further detail about the risk factors relating to our business. And with that, I would like to turn the call over to our CFO, Paul Gaitan. Paul?

Paul Gaitan

Management

Thanks, Duane. And thank you to all who are joining us for today's call. This afternoon, we issued a press release as well as filed our form 10-Q the SEC, both of which discussed and detail the results of our operations from the quarter. I recommend going through those materials to get more color on some of the information being discussed today. And now to our financial results for the second quarter of 2018. Sales for the quarter were $171,000, which was down from $252,000 reported in the same period of 2017. Our net loss in the second quarter of 2018 improved compared to Q2 2017 from a loss of $9.2 million or $0.26 per basic and diluted share to a loss of $6.9 million or $0.18 per basic and diluted share. The decrease in sales and improvement and net loss is due primarily to a decrease in the volume of trucks sold. We believe our year-over-year comparison should not be considered as meaningful representation of the current capacity of our business or potential interest in our vehicles. As we grow, we recognize the need for our capital structure to evolve. To that end, we are pursuing multiple types of investment. In the meantime, we've been taking the necessary steps to ensure that we have the required short-term capital available on acceptable terms. For example, a few weeks back, we entered into an agreement with an existing shareholder of ours, Arosa Capital Management, for a $6.1 million term loan. This paid off the secured notes that were issued in December 2017. The covenants require that we raised $30 million over the next six months from a combination of equity and the sale of SureFly, this dovetails with the direction we were heading. Now with the financial side of things behind us, I want to turn the call over to Steve Burns Workhorse CEO to give an overview of the quarter, as well as discuss some of our operational highlights and outlook for the remainder of 2018. Steve?

Steve Burns

Management

Thanks, Paul. Again, welcome to everyone. We’re quite excited by our progress since our last call and I will briefly recap our five major initiatives and then open it up for your questions. First, I'd like to speak about our next generation electric delivery vans. Our N-GENs family of electric vans represents a clean sheet of paper design, which was developed with a clear goal of being sold our customers for the same price it would pay for an equivalent diesel truck, and for us to be able to make these vehicles at a positive gross material margin. The N-GENs will be available in 200, 450, 700, 1,000 cubic foot versions, starting with the 450 and the 1,000 cubic foot versions this year. These revolutionary vehicles re-invent the last mile delivery and the urban work van. We continue our real-world delivery testing of the N-GEN 450 pilot vehicles and our initial results have demonstrated solid performance in some of the most challenging delivery situations. First, we had a major achievement in terms of our fuel efficiency. As some of you may know with electric vehicles, the industry-standard is the ease of metric known as miles per gallon equivalent to function as a proxy for our traditional internal combustion engine. On that comparable basis, our 400 cubic foot version of the N-GEN achieved an average of 40 miles per gallon equivalent, while its 200 cubic foot counterpart is all the way up to 75 miles per gallon equivalent, representing up to 500% improvement compared to conventional gas delivery vans. Second, we've now delivered more than 100,000 packages in our manufactured test vehicles. These miles on the road contributing to real-world deliveries have provided us with tremendous insights to optimize our next generation van. Finally, I'm also excited to announce that this…

Operator

Operator

We’ll now be conducting a question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions]. Our first question today is coming from Carter Drisscol from B. Riley FBR.

Carson Sippel

Analyst

This is Carson Sippel on for Carter Drisscol My first question is, how are you going about valuing the SureFly? And do you think $20 million will be a reasonable valuation for full value?

Steve Burns

Management

Yes, we want to be clear. $20 million is what were contractually obligated on the Arosa financing to do is a minimal. We believe that SureFly is worth well north of that, so that $20 million just maybe a percentage of the SureFly. We don't have to sell it all, but we have to bring in at least $20 million. So we've looked at the comparables out there. Worldwide, there is 10, 15, 20 companies doing this. Again, nobody that we know out there is trying to go FAA certification process, but we do have some comps. It's pretty easy to evaluate are they on paper, or they flying and if they had a man in it, are they trying to get regulated. And based on that, we feel shift wise its worth well north of the $20 million.

Carson Sippel

Analyst

And do you know what' next possible test fly would be?

Steve Burns

Management

Well, we test fly it almost not every day, but we’re down about two weeks of maintenance and some of it is the downtime to go to the New York event. But we should be testing the week of the 20th, we start it testing again.

Carson Sippel

Analyst

And then now switching gears to the engine. Are you able to produce any engine prior to the equity raise?

Steve Burns

Management

No, still in development, other than the two that we have out on the road is test vehicles for customers.

Carson Sippel

Analyst

And then I have one more. So do you see any other OEMs making UPS’s order pattern so like acquiring small initial units then an evaluation period, and then a larger order of follow-on?

Steve Burns

Management

While first of all, traditionally, that is the course, especially when it's a new kind of vehicle like all these vehicles are. The two new customers that we referenced during the intro there, they are both buying a small subset of them, enough for them to be able to prove for larger buy. So that’s typically awaits done I can't speak to if UPS is doing other similar deals.

Carson Sippel

Analyst

And then one last one from me. So do you see any other competitors tying to build similar vehicles in EV space for last mile delivery or just in general that where are you?

Steve Burns

Management

Yes, we are seeing -- I don’t want to name anybody specifically. But we see people building the vehicles that we were building four years ago, they are essentially the gas or diesel vehicles, slight changes to make them electric or similar. But we have not seen anybody building a low for tight turning radius super lightweight. Our vehicles are about 5,000 pounds lighter than a conventional diesel vehicle for the same size at least in the 1,000 cubic foot version. So we have not seen that anywhere. Other than Europe, we have seen company called Mercedes Benz has announced that electric Sprinter or something like that, but nothing for over here.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Your next question today is coming from Chris Souther from Cowen. Your line is now live.

Chris Souther

Analyst

Just a quick question on wondering to see if we can get an update on the ramp that you guys are hoping to accomplish in the second half. Could you comment on that a bit?

Steve Burns

Management

So as we forecasted, most of our ramp is backend into the latter part of the year. So you won't see much in just a few test vehicles next quarter and the bulk of its going to be the fourth quarter. And we’re trying to get -- before the year, we’re trying to get to 20 or 30 per day. I can't speak to whether that’s five, six or seven days a week, but that’s the ramp we’re trying to get to.

Chris Souther

Analyst

And then looking at the cost reduction efforts. Can you walk us through some of the opportunities and potential obstacles as you began to sale?

Steve Burns

Management

So again, just to reiterate. For several years, we’re making vehicles to perfect our craft, let our customers start to depend on us. But it was very difficult to make a profit on those vehicles, which we accepted in exchange for coming out with a new vehicle. So two things had to happen we had to say it to ourselves, I think we’ve made enough that we don’t have to keep making them on a loss and how are we going to get to a material margin. And that comes in the flavor of two things; A, volume of course right, volume floats all boats in this business. And so I think in the press release, we did it 4 o'clock today we talked about 1,100 units in backwater. And that starts to get enough where we can work with our tier one suppliers to start to get very favorable pricing. The other thing is we engineered the cost out so the key thing we did was make the vehicles -- we just really maniacally focused on light weighting. And if we can take 5,000 pounds out of a conventional set van then we can put smaller batteries in it. And I think everybody is familiar that batteries are the most expensive component, so less batteries then less charging infrastructure for the customer because vehicle is using less. So in the end, just like volume helps, mass always wins. So if we can reduce weight and that so we had to make vans lighter than they’ve just ever been made. And then the last thing is the post office is a very large opportunity, I think they've expressed that its 160 to 2,000 for the winner. And that has enabled us being in the finalists for that has enabled us to attract tier one discounts. And so that's almost combined as how we got there.

Chris Souther

Analyst

And then congrats on the prior progress with some of these other customers beyond UPS. Can you give us any sense of the timing of those deliveries?

Steve Burns

Management

They’re this year. So again, I think latter part of the year. But I can't say -- most of the deliveries will be -- Christmas gets pretty crazy for most of our customers, so it won't be right up against the end of the year there. But October is where we’re shooting for.

Chris Souther

Analyst

And then is there any update on the hybrid program the Fedex program. How is that going and what are the next steps you guys need to hit toward securing more meaningful orders there?

Steve Burns

Management

I am going to let Duane speak to that one.

Duane Hughes

Management

We're still working through all of the sales process, if you will. FedEx, they’ve given us good indicators on their specifications and their requirements. They have got a number of our vehicles on the road today where they've already experienced the performance for it. So we have a number of opportunities there. Now in addition to that, we have the plug power hydrogen fuel cell vehicle also with FedEx that’s on route in New York, and they’re keeping a close eye on that as well as they look to I'll say evolve their fleet to electrification. They want range extended opportunities as well as all electric. So they have a couple -- a number of our vehicles have a couple of different versions, including the plug power with which we’re continuing discussions to move forward.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Justin Long from Stephens. Your line is now live.

Justin Long

Analyst

So I wanted to ask first about your partnership with Ryder. Just curious if you could provide an update on that front, and how things have been playing out in terms of the level of success you’ve had marketing your product through their retail channel?

Duane Hughes

Management

You probably read a few months ago, we delivered the first set of vehicles to one of their larger customers, called W.B. Mason out of the Northeast. So from a launch perspective as we bring Ryder up to speed, not just from a maintenance perspective on our vehicles but across all of our platforms, which beyond just for step vans gets into our next generation category and our W-15. We work very closely with them on identifying potential customers and fleets that are viable candidates. So two things come to mind; you look at the FedEx ground group, they have several thousand FedEx ground independent contractors, which represent about 44,000 delivery vans in their fleet; Ryder is a good channel partner to FedEx ground from that perspective, which helps us tremendously, I'll say, hurdle all those catch. Perhaps most importantly I'd say Justin is our W-15 progress. Out of the roughly, or just under 6,000 units on pre-order, Ryder represents 2,500 of those orders. So they are significant player, if you will, in the Class 1 or pickup truck space that we expect to extend that relationship even further.

Justin Long

Analyst

And then secondly you‘ve announced the partnership Dana back in May, I think it was just before your prior earnings call. I was wondering if we could circle back to that opportunity. And maybe you could speak about the financial and strategic opportunity that creates for your business?

Steve Burns

Management

And really in the end as good a recipe as you get, this business really boils down to a supply chain and then building then quality consistently. And so supply chain is super important to a small company like us and Dana, Panasonic partners like that are everything. So we use several different -- Dana makes everything from axels, to differentials, to electric motors now. And so they are moving towards supplying parts for electrification of vehicles, and so really happy to have them as a partner. And they are going to be -- their parts are all over our engine and our W-15 pickup truck.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from Carter Driscoll from B. Riley FBR. Your line is now live.

Steve Burns

Management

I think we already had him Kevin.

Duane Hughes

Management

Kevin, he was the first, but it was Carson that was on for Carter.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] At this time, this concludes the Company's question-and-answer session. If your question was not taken, you may contact Workhorse's Investor Relations team at wkhs@liolios.com. I’d now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Burns for his closing remarks.

Steve Burns

Management

I’d just like to thank you everyone again for joining. I’d like to thank our team that’s worked so hard to make all this stuff happen. And appreciate your continued interest in Workhorse and look forward to updating you on our next call.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time.