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Q4 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 11, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the World Fuel Services 2015 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Earnings Conference Call. My name is Christy and I will be coordinating the call this morning. During the presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. And instructions on how to ask a question will be given at the beginning of the Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Glenn Klevitz, World Fuel's Assistant Treasurer. Mr. Klevitz, you may begin your conference.

Glenn Klevitz

Analyst

Thank you, Christy. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the World Fuel Services fourth quarter and full year 2015 earnings conference call. I am Glenn Klevitz, World Fuel's Assistant Treasurer and I’ll be doing the introductions on this morning's call alongside our live slide presentation. This call is also available via webcast. To access this webcast or future webcasts, please visit our website, www.wfscorp.com, and click on the webcast icon. With us on the call today are Michael Kasbar, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ira Birns, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. By now, you should have all received a copy of our earnings release. If not, you can access the release on our website. Before we get started, I would like to review World Fuel's Safe Harbor statement. Certain statements made today, including comments about World Fuel's expectations regarding future plans and performance, are forward-looking statements that are subject to a range of uncertainties and risks that could cause World Fuel's actual results to materially differ from the forward-looking information. A description of the risk factors that could cause the results to materially differ from these projections can be found in World Fuel's Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2014, and other reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. World Fuel assumes no obligation to revise or publicly release the results of any of these revisions to the forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. This presentation also includes certain non-GAAP financial measures as defined in Regulation G. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in World Fuel's press release and can be found on its website. We will begin with several minutes of prepared remarks, which will then be followed by a question-and-answer period. At this time, I would like to introduce our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Kasbar.

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

Thank you, Glenn and good morning, everyone. This morning, we announced adjusted full-year earnings of $193 million or $2.73 adjusted diluted earnings per share. Adjusted earnings for the fourth quarter were $53 million or $0.75 adjusted diluted earnings per share. The backdrop of global economic turmoil, world [ph] oil prices and foreign currency devaluations had a significant negative impact on the results of many businesses. However, our diversified energy solutions business model has once again delivered solid results for us. We have proven that during the perfect storm of oversupply, slowed demand and deteriorating balance sheets, we were still able to gain significant market share. We concluded the year with nearly 20 billion gallons of fuel sold, an increase of almost 20% year-over-year. That’s about 1.5 million barrels per day or 1.5% of the world’s liquid fuel flowing through our company each and every day. The financial health of our company remains strong and we maintain ample liquidity to fund a multitude of organic growth opportunities as well as strategic investments across all of our business segments worldwide. As illustrated by our press release earlier this morning, we announced that we have signed a definitive agreement to acquire aviation fueling operations at more than 80 airport locations from ExxonMobil affiliates. The transaction represents a strategic expansion of our global aviation network and brings us a portfolio of business, general and commercial aviation customers in Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, Australia and New Zealand. Our aviation segment had a solid year, posting record volume of 6.3 billion gallons while continuing to expand our product and service offerings throughout our commercial, general and business aviation operations. Government related activity principally from our NCS business produced a better than anticipated result this year as troops remained in the region longer than was…

Ira Birns

Analyst

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Consolidated revenue for the fourth quarter was $6.7 billion, down 31% compared to the fourth quarter of 2014. This decline was due to lower oil prices offset in part by increased volumes across all three of our business segments. For the full year, consolidated revenue was $30.4 billion, down 30% compared to last year. Again, this decline was also due to lower oil prices offset in part by increased volumes in aviation, marine and land. Our aviation segment volume was 1.6 billion gallons in the fourth quarter up 160 million gallons or 11% year-over-year. For the full year, aviation segment volume was a record 6.3 billion gallons, up 625 million gallons or 11% year-over-year. Volume in our marine segment for the fourth quarter was 8 million metric tons, up approximately 900,000 metric tons or 12% year over year. Broker business activity for the quarter was approximately 12% of total marine volume as compared to 10% percent in the fourth quarter of 2014. For the full year, our marine segment volume was a record 32.6 million metric tons, up 6.9 million metric tons or 27% compared to last year. And what continues to be a very weak operating environment, our marine team did an outstanding job growing volume and market share to record levels, while maintaining our credit discipline and expanding our global offerings. Our land segment sold record 1.4 billion gallons during the fourth quarter, up approximately 260 million gallons or 23% from the fourth quarter of last year. For the full year, land segment volume was a record 4.9 billion gallons, up nearly 700 million gallons or 16% year over year. Lastly, total consolidated volume for the fourth quarter was 5.1 billion gallons, up 650 million gallons or 14% year over year.…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jon Chappell with Evercore ISI. Please proceed with your question.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, guys.

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

Good morning.

Ira Birns

Analyst

Hey, Jonathan.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Looks like a very good transaction. Just a question about how that fits into your current aviation structure and some of the acquisitions you've done in the past seem to be – had a lot of volume and maybe have maybe little bit lower margins in the portfolio and some have had pretty low volume with pretty high margin. So is there any way you can give us type of a run rate of volumes so we can back into kind of the margin and how it fits into your portfolio?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

Sure, Jon. This is the lower volume variety as you so put it. Total volume from this transaction should be a little over 300 million gallons.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Okay.

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

Remember, this mostly - business in general aviation activities, so it does carry margins generally higher than our average margins in the overall aviation business.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Okay. Is there any seasonality to that business at all?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

No significant seasonality.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Okay.

Ira Birns

Analyst

It’s primarily niche regional.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Got it. Second question, you did a great job this year on the marine side given a ton of headwinds there. But if we look at the fourth quarter, there seem to be a pretty meaningful almost a 10% sequential drop from the volumes in 2Q and 3Q. Obviously marine can be incredibly seasonal, but also in the last three months I guess the last five months there has been a huge step down in a couple of major section and so much of that sequential decline, was just a seasonal issue and how much of it is you kind of ceiling back risk is you know bankruptcy is kind of accelerated in dry bulk and the container markets?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

It's tough to tell Jonathan, I mean you know better than anyone but there is a lot of folks on the sidelines of the derivative side you know people really are taking a wait-and-see approach not only on the marine side but also on the aviation side. So, it's little tough to tell you know we've got to be pretty careful in the current market conditions because the economic scenario so poor. So it’s little bit hard to tell and it's really a quarter by quarter thing for us, the way that our model works is that we’ve got the ability to dial up and dial down. I think while we are feeling pretty good about our mousetrap and our global platform definitely being a little bit careful. So you are going to see some movement in that volume on a quarter by quarter basis.

Jon Chappell

Analyst

Yeah understood. And then just a quick one from my follow-up obviously ended the year with a lot of cash $260 million of it paying for this transaction and a lot of tax credit facility. So as we think about your liquidity going forward, the best way to ask this is, couple of years ago you stated you needed about $150 million or - comfortable with maybe a $100 million to $150 million of cash on the balance sheet to run the business and everything else was kind of up for opportunities. As the business has grown significantly and as you add this new business as well what's the kind of comfort level of cash in the balance sheet so you kind of once again back into what liquidity is available to pursue other opportunities like the one you announced today?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst

I would say that that number hasn’t changed materially Jonathan. We've obviously had more significant cash on our balance sheet than the amount that we feel we need because we’ve generated so much cash and haven’t spent this fast enough. So I would say we’re still comfortable over the long run you know should our balance of cash drop down to that range of $150 million or so we'd still be very comfortable with that position.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gregory Lewis with Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Gregory Lewis

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks and good morning gentlemen. You touched on the cash in overseas, and you come back [ph] into cash domestic, as we think about opportunities and you think about where your cash position is, should we be thinking more about more international expansion, the domestic or are there going to be opportunities domestically or at least how are you thinking about that?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

We have a lot of opportunity fortunately and I would say there are plenty of opportunities domestically and there are a growing number of opportunities internationally as well. Clearly if we find something internationally like we did with the Exxon Mobil transaction that's a nice win for us because we have cash sitting offshore that is not really generating much of a return and we can use that cash to fund the transaction. And if we find additional opportunities offshore we still have incremental cash that we could tap that's sitting offshore as well. But that doesn't preclude us from going after acquisitions domestically and there are plenty of those as well and we got ample availability on our credit facilities to fund those transactions. So I would say there is opportunities on every continent today, we just have to prioritize and find the one to make the most sense for us strategically.

Gregory Lewis

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Just following up on that, has the significant slowdown and the availability of capital in the MLP market significantly increased your opportunities to buy things domestically?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

I'm not sure that that's necessarily the case, I think there is still a lot of competition for certain transactions but I think we got a great reputation in the market and when deals come to market people tend to – I’m not sure they always come to us first but we’re probably one of the first people they used to come to talk to because we've got the track record of all the deals we've done successfully in the past, so I don't think we've seen a significant [Technical Difficulty]

Gregory Lewis

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. That's fine. And then, just you mean, you clearly feel it's the adjacent businesses that really drive margin, I mean, there is recession fears, there is panic, oil prices are jumping around every day, has that driven, have you noticed a pickup in demand for those derivative services of hedging over the last, call it, six weeks, I mean, as we think about the quarter or even -- we can even go back and look in December, as there's been more concern about just the uncertainty out there, you're seeing banks potentially pull back on capital, are things starting to line up where beyond the traditional fuel selling, there is going to be outsized opportunities in those adjacent services, have we started to see any signs of that yet?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Well, as it relates to hedging, for the most part, it's the complete opposite. Lot of people are on the sidelines, the airlines have certainly taken off, Delta I think has taken off all of their hedges. So a lot of folks got burned, they took a position and this was some part of the drop-off in Q2. Everyone thought that it hit the bottom, they've put on some hedges, it dropped further, they took losses, everyone pretty much decided to take a wait and see the prices there are quite low. So it's not really very oriented towards hedging. You can certainly make an argument, that at these low numbers, it's not a bad idea, but there is still a lot of discussion of the bottom pulling out further, you're hearing a number of different pundits in our call for $20 barrel oil. So it's pretty soft on the demand. Now, as it relates to other services, and as it relates to financial counter parties and all of that, I think that the diversification approach that we're taking is intelligent and omni-channel approach, where we're looking to have ubiquitous coverage and dealing with a lot of services and really helping folks navigate reduced cost of procurement and energy management is really the name of the game. So that's really what our strategy has been for a long time. It's expensive to do that, but we believe it's in the interest of shareholders to be building a rock-solid bulletproof business that is very service oriented, is very comprehensive and is not depending simply on a markup on fuel, but becoming a professional global energy management company that's cutting across transportation, commercial, industrial and governmental market segments. So that's not easy to do. We've been at this our entire lives and that's really why you're seeing our expenses be a little bit different than what perhaps we both like to see. But we're taking a medium to long-term orientation and it's not easy, I mean it's not mysterious what we're doing, it's just difficult to execute.

Gregory Lewis

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Thank you for the time, gentlemen.

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jack Atkins with Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Jack Atkins

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning, guys. Thanks for the time and congratulations on a strong quarter and the acquisition. So, Ira, I think if we can go back to something you were talking about in your prepared comments, the $4 million reduction in OpEx, excluding acquired expenses, is that part of sort of the larger, sort of cost cutting program that you guys have undertaken and can you maybe give some details around what's driving that?

Ira Birns

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

I would say that we're just very cautious on every dollar that we spend and the overall scheme of things, it's nice to brag about a $4 million reduction, it's not a really big number. So I can't point to anything specific, it's just a couple of hundred thousand dollars in several different categories I would say that helped to reduce those expenses overall. So, we're spending money where we think it's prudent and we're looking to save money where we think it's equally prudent and over the past year, we've obviously done a reasonably good job in doing so, by keeping non-acquisition related expenses pretty much flat and we’re going to always be able to do that. As I mentioned on the call, we’re going to be spending a few million dollars this year on our long-term infrastructure project, but we may find some offsetting savings in other areas. So I can’t really point to anything specific just to say that we’re very focused on cost and we always will be trying to make sure we are spending $1 more than we need to.

Jack Atkins

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, make sense. And then thinking about the acquisition, you mentioned on the press release that as part of the transaction, you’re going to become a distributor for Imperial Oil in Canada. Is that assumed in the accretion expectations for full year basis, in terms of the transaction and can you maybe walk through the mechanics of how this will work, we have a specific territory in Canada or we need compete with existing Imperial distributors for business?

Ira Birns

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Well, for starters, it is included in the accretion estimate. Everything that we made reference to is included in the estimate next year. And the second part of your question in terms of we will have long-term distribution rights with Imperial Oil and there is competition in Canada with other parties, but that’s a valuable piece of the public force as part of this transaction.

Jack Atkins

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Okay, I got you. And then lastly, on the military side of the business, you commented that you expect that to be a little bit softer in ’16 versus ’15, could you maybe put some brackets around how we should be thinking about that from a financial impact perspective to ’16?

Ira Birns

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

It’s always a tough one, because I think if I estimate this question last year, I would have given you a more doom and gloom forecast and we have won that outperforming our expectations in a pretty big way, because military activity continued and additional troops was sent over. As we look to ’16, we again at the start of the year, are expecting a drop-off, but it’s really tough to measure how much that might be. That activity still is in double-digit percentages of aviation BP [ph] as I have referred to that metric in that past. And that number will quite likely drop in and probably just merely be in double-digits in 2016. We really just don’t know, things can be changing month to month, decisions are made by the military on certain basis on a moment’s notice, which could be a positive or negative. So we’re optimistic that we will generate a reasonable amount of profitability in ’16, which is probably way beyond what we would have expected a year ago, but it’s really tough to measure how much that is. But it almost certainly will be a lower number, just again tough to quantify.

Jack Atkins

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Okay. Well, thank you again for the time this morning.

Ira Birns

Analyst · Stephens. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Jack.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ken Hoexter with Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Ken Hoexter

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning Ira and Michael. Michael, you talked a bit about the strategic acquisition, maybe just delve into that for a little bit. What’s changing or just are you acquiring businesses that you are not in in terms of the aviation with ExxonMobil, I just want to understand when you say, or is it just that it’s because it’s the largest changes structurally in how you’re going to be running the business?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

No, listen, I think it’s important to understand that all we are doing is satisfying customer demand. There are probably three different ways that we can fulfill a customer’s requirements and again, it’s not mysterious. Amazon is opening stores, Wal-Mart is converging their technology, and ecommerce, you’ve got people setting up third-party networks using technology. So there is nothing new about this. It’s certainly the cloud and some of your invitation towards omni-channel approach to satisfying customer demand is nothing new where it’s just a bit more robust. We have been oriented on that for a long time from when we made a Y2K decision to go with an Oracle solution to that where we could have taken a simple patch. We’ve always had the vision of creating a ubiquitous energy management company and I don’t think anyone really has that in the marketplace today, which makes it difficult for you guys to model and compare us to and I appreciate that, but this is nothing other than continuing to build out our network. So it's an opportunity that we feel it fit perfectly in our wheelhouse within the aviation side. We started this back in 2000 with our fuel management, moved on to taking inventory to create value. We penetrated the supply chain here in the US. We started to do that in terms of opening up markets in Europe. This now gives us interesting access in those locations. So it fits perfectly. On our global energy management side, that's very exciting from a perspective of opening up now to natural gas and power. And commercial and industrial was 70% of energy demand is natural gas and power for those industrial and commercial users. So we're pretty excited about that. And it’s a perfect overlay on our global platform.…

Ken Hoexter

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

So, I am sorry, Michael, maybe you could just dumb it down for me in terms, because you a through a lot of stuff in that with Amazon, Walmart and Y2K, what – maybe just a profile, what are you acquiring in terms of - because you mentioned some niche airports in the multiple different markets. What exactly are you gaining here? Are you just gaining Exxon Mobil’s distribution to specific air fleets and in niche airports I just want to understand kind of what –

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

So it’s basically airport assets and operations, fueling operations at 83 airports. So it’s access in Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, Australia, New Zealand and most likely France. So we now have access to physical supply and inter-plane fueling operations and storage in those locations. So that's something that is different and it is an expansion. We're penetrating the supply chain within jet fuel supply at those locations, so it’s pretty exciting actually. I mean, we've done this. You’ve got an open market in the United States, so anybody can basically walk in to the United States, so you can’t exactly do that in some of these other location. So there is a barrier to entry and that’s been consistent with what we did in Northern Europe. We’ve made those announcements with other acquisitions in Scandinavia. So we’ve doing this now for quote sometime. This is now just a significant acceleration of that. So that’s - access to those locations where we are basically operating the store. So that’s Walmart part. The Amazon part is one we are third-party. So most of what we've done traditionally is as a third-party fuel logistics company where we are leveraging the marketplace and acting as a marketing company. In this case, we're actually operating those facilities and delivering the fuel with our own assets. So, still asset light but that’s really the specific difference there but we’ve been doing this for a long time it’s just a lot more of it all at once.

Ken Hoexter

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

That’s a lot clearer I appreciate that. And so it’s kind of what you're already doing in different places, you’re expanding it very rapidly globally. Is there anything with the acquisition is just kind of normal course of business activity for those customers, do you have to renegotiate anything in process or is it kind of you just pick up as they stand or it a constant negotiation quarterly or it annually can you maybe just describe that?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

There is a natural flow of business I mean it's not indentured servitude, but we are picking up sort of a flow of business and relationships. And there are going to be a number of contracts that will be assigned. So, we know many of these customers we have relationships with these customers, so now this is really just an expansion of our capabilities and we've been a partner to both the manufacturing side of jet fuel were different companies are manufacturing the fuel but they don’t necessarily want to deliver it, they don't want to sell it. So, we continued those partnerships with those suppliers and we also continue the relationship with our aviation customers both commercial and business clients around the world, we now just get more embedded within the supply chain. It also gives us an interesting foothold in those countries to diversify into our land business and basically just get into the supply chain and increasing we’re seeing that more and more where our businesses are different, they have different names, they have different labels but the reality is what we’re doing across a diversified energy side is very much the same. So we're getting significant synergies internally, we’re in the early innings of that. We’ve reorganized our company, our marine and aviation businesses and now very closely aligned, our land business is really starting to come into its own. Global energy management is identified a completely new set of customers where we’re providing natural gas and power and also providing liquid fuel and diesel and gasoline and lubricants. So any case, I know I'm giving you too long of an answer Ken but I don't have too many opportunities like this to explain what we do. So I wanted to take advantage of it.

Ken Hoexter

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

I think it's really helpful and vital. Ira, maybe I just want to kind of highlight some of the stuff and it’s still small but your bad debt expense is creeping up. Your days receivable is up to two days at the highest level since second quarter of ’08 if my math is right. How do you think about the market, I know you were kind of getting this in one of the questions before but versus maybe the days sales outstanding you saw in downturn, where do you think this market is trending in terms of the this environment and your exposure on that bad debt side.

Ira Birns

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

I think we continue to be grow relatively conservative company in the way we manage our receivables portfolio. We manage billion of dollars of receivables on a day-to-day basis and I still believe despite the $2 million remember that’s a provision in the fourth quarter which is a bit of analytics as supposed to actual write-offs. So I think our position and our comfort level with what we have on our books are not changed materially, days sales outstanding will move around a bit from time to time partially driven by mix of business where we’ve mixed in some business that has a slightly higher trade cycle on the AR side. Aside from that nothing really meaningful has changed. As a mentioned on the call, we look at it as a metric is what we actually write off in a given year and that number has been remarkably consistent and is extremely low number as a percentage of whatever you want to divide it by, net revenue, gross revenue, receivables et cetera. It's been somewhere between $7 million and $8 million consistently now over the past three years. So I don't think we feel anything material has changed. Obviously in some segments that we serve there has been a bit of weakening of the customer base and we are very careful in terms of who we are engaging with on a daily, weekly and monthly basis.

Ken Hoexter

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Great that’s helpful. And lastly just you mentioned the multi-year project to create a more efficient network, I guess is that because of the acquisition and I guess, can the system handle the new business, is this just blending in to what you've already, Michael, you've mentioned some of the investments you've made, is that all prepared and ready for enabling to handle this strong growth?

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

This is a journey, Ken and this is -- we have started a long time ago. So, we're pretty excited about it. Ira has done many good things, we got involved in our crude oil business. Years ago, we exited that and he gets a good chunk of the credit for that piece and as well, on the cost management side of it, we've been talking about this transformation within our systems for many years. So this is a combination of things. We've got a phenomenal technology group in our company. I've been with very pro technology, because it's so critical for what we do, both internally, the amount of data that we have, the amount of information that we have, the flow of business that we have, it's just extraordinary. We're very much an information company big time and we utilize that, the service organization, we've got all of our offices connected, we've got one instance of Oracle, we're an enormous user of Oracle cloud, we're pretty excited about some of our enterprise wide initiatives to bring together our 743 sales people around the world. That or essentially, all doing the same thing. So there are tremendous synergies, so I know the organic growth has been less than what we want, the expense side has been higher, because we haven't been able to integrate systems and as we bring on more and more companies, it becomes a little bit more complicated. So now, getting to a plug and play, Mike Crosby’s number one job, our EVP of Land is with Jay Smith, building our global land platform that is really exciting. So we’ve got a lot of good things going on, it's going to take a while, it's going to cost money, but it's certainly in the shareholders' long term interest to be making these. So we're kind of taking it on the chin in terms of a quarter-by-quarter basis, but we think that this is really the right thing to do. So we're pretty excited about it and we've got a lot of engagement with the entire organization.

Ira Birns

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Just one thing to add to Mike's comments Ken, in terms of the ExxonMobil acquisition, it has nothing to do with the long-term project. We're comfortable that we had integrated that acquisition over the next 12 months as the project -- ongoing project will be on that. So the infrastructure we have today can very well handle the integration of that particular acquisition. [Technical Difficulty] I thought I actually answered the question.

Ken Hoexter

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Michael. Thanks, Ira.

Michael Kasbar

Analyst · Merrill Lynch. Please proceed with your question.

All right. Take care. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Mr. Klevitz, there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to you for closing remarks.

Glenn Klevitz

Analyst

Okay. Well, thanks everyone. We appreciate you waking up early and appreciate the support and look forward to talking to you next quarter.