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Where Food Comes From, Inc. (WFCF)

Q2 2018 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 14, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Where Food Comes From Second Quarter Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jay Pfeiffer, Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Jay Pfeiffer

Analyst

Good morning and welcome to the Where Food Comes From 2018 Second Quarter Earnings Call. Joining me on the call today are John Saunders, CEO; Leann Saunders, President; and Dannette Henning, CFO. During the course of this call, we'll be making forward-looking statements based on current expectations, estimates and projections that are subject to risk. Statements about future revenue, expenses, profitability, cash, growth strategy, new customer wins, business opportunities, market acceptance of our products and services, and potential acquisitions are forward-looking statements. Listeners should not place undue reliance on these statements as there are many factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our forward-looking statements. We encourage you to review our publicly filed documents as well as our news releases and website for more information on the company. Today we'll also be discussing EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA, which are non-GAAP financial measures provided as a complement to the results provided in accordance with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. We use and we believe investors benefit from presentation of EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA in evaluating our operating performance because it provides an additional tool to compare our operating performance on a consistent basis by removing the impact of certain items that Management believes do not directly reflect our core operations. I will now turn the call over to John Saunders, Chairman and CEO.

John Saunders

Analyst

Good morning, and thanks for joining the call today. We continue to build momentum in the second quarter as all four of our business segments delivered double-digit revenue growth and improved profit metrics. The contributions to our success are many and varying. We continue to benefit from two macro tailwinds, growing consumer demand for increased transparency in the food chain and the reopening of China to U.S. beef and pork which is driving increased China-eligible beef verifications and associated sales of RFID tags. We also continue to benefit from our M&A strategy which has expanded beyond its original emphasis to include a focus on software that helps our customers better-manage their businesses and afford thus another recurring revenue component. I'll revisit the subject of recurring revenue in just a minute, but first let me touch on some financial highlights for Q2. Total revenue in the second quarter increased 27% at year-over-year to a record $4.4 million from $3.5 million in the same quarter last year. As I mentioned, we achieved double-digit growth in all four revenue segments. That included verification and certification revenue, up 20% year-over-year to $3.5 million. While some of these growth was due to the China's effect on beef verifications, we also continue to see good organic growth across other standards, most notably non-GMO and animal welfare and sustainability. Product sales which consist of cattle ear tags increased 68% to $496,000 and nearly all of that growth was attributable to China as more cavalry [ph] interest engage with our IMI Global unit to qualify their beef for export. Software license, maintenance and support revenue increased 102% in the second quarter to $263,000 as our SureHarvest unit experienced increased demand for upgrades and enhancements to their SaS offering. Our software consulting services segment grew 13% year-over-year to $171,000…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Alex Tim with First Valentine.

Alex Tim

Analyst

Hi. Congratulations on the quarter. I just have two quick questions. Your sale for software integration expenses, are they done for the year or are there any more remaining costs?

John Saunders

Analyst

That's a good question. We staggered out over the course of the year so my gut would be -- I could give the specifics on that, that we have a balance of that coming for the rest of the year and then sales forces is in annual contract. So it's ongoing.

Alex Tim

Analyst

All right. And just customer retention rate, how they changed with this China news?

John Saunders

Analyst

How the customer retention rates changed?

Alex Tim

Analyst

Yes. The overall trends, how they changed.

John Saunders

Analyst

Oh, yes. Our business has been extremely sticky over the years and barring any major swings in export markets. We typically retain the majority of our customers somewhere around 90%. With China, yes we're experiencing mostly new on-boardings from those customers that we started with last year I would say close to 100% of them have renewed.

Alex Tim

Analyst

All right. Thank you very much.

John Saunders

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Terry Thompson [ph], Private Investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning, John. Congratulations again. Can you hear me okay?

John Saunders

Analyst

Yes. Thank you.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Can you hear me okay?

John Saunders

Analyst

Yes. Go ahead. Yes, sir. Go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I know that the tariff thing has been an influence. It's my understanding that the President's aim is not to increase tariffs, it's to get the other countries to decrease their tariffs and if he is able to achieve that, do you see that as a positive state for Where Food Comes From?

John Saunders

Analyst

That's a good question. I'll answer the first part and then I'll let Leann give a little bit of her insight into what she thinks is going on in the market. I do think that there's a lot of different markets that the President is looking at when he's negotiating specifically with China. Our experience thus far with all of the discussion around the tariffs has been almost none at all. So we really haven't seen any impact coming back to the market.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good.

Leann Saunders

Analyst

Hi, Terry. How are you this morning?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I'm doing great, Leann. How are you all doing?

Leann Saunders

Analyst

Oh, good.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good.

Leann Saunders

Analyst

What we're seeing from those that are looking at these trade negotiations and these trade agreements all the time is that there seems to be a lot of hype, obviously in the media regarding some of what's happening. I think it's great headline news, but when you look at the fundamentals in the marketplace, they really haven't changed. It was a huge win, I think for both countries who are beat to get access. So because of that, I don't see it going backwards too much. One of the unique things about US Beef going into China is that it's fairly inelastic when it comes to pricing because it's very unique. Really the only other country that competes head-to-head with US Beef based on quality and it being a grain-set product is Canada, and that really is the only other market going into China that is exactly like that from a quality perspective. So it can handle a little bit of more pressure price-wise from a tariff's perspective making it more inelastic. So, so far with shipments going into China, there hasn't been a change, in fact even last weeks. The last two weeks' went to check and then put in place and there was already a tariff on it before, remember that. It's still holding strong on shipments and everybody is really optimistic in the marketplace. I'm hopeful that that continues, but again, we'll just have to wait and see, Terry.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes. You mentioned headline in those. I don't even know on a TV because I'd rather be uninformed and misinformed. It seems to me China needs our food a lot more than we need their exports, bottom line. I'm not all that concerned about it, I just was curious how it looked from your end of perspective. Again, congratulations and onward and upward. Thank you.

Leann Saunders

Analyst

Thanks, Terry. Just one quick add-on because I do think it's important. When you look at a commodity that is more commoditized internationally like pork, there has been some slight changes in shipments on pork. It's not shut down and pork is still going into the market, but it's been a little bit more impactful -- pork. Herds too have an impact, that they seem to come and go and even with NAFTA, with Mexico and Canada being strong export market for protein, even with all of what you hear in the news, I think those agreements will come out favorable for all countries because we are exchanging different products. I think it will end up good in the long run.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Fantastic. Again, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Marc Robbins with Catalyst Research.

Marc Robbins

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

Hey, thank you. Good job on the quarter, very nice to see. Bring me up to date on the Where Food Comes From labeling product -- the food label that would go on, packages of maintenance so forth, yogurt.

John Saunders

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

Sure. We bring on new labeling customers literally everyday. What we're finding right now, Marc, is that a lot of it is B2B based. So we're doing it at the distributor level. Even yesterday, a long term customer of ours, you're actually familiar with them, Marc, because we serve some of their beef up at your event event -- Country Natural Beef recently launched a program with one of the leading distributors, high-end supplier to restaurants, new pork meats and that product is certified -- be aware if it comes from the labels right on the box. So, even though you may not see it on consumer packages or the growth there continues to move forward everyday, but there literally are millions of products out there. The process of bringing on new customers is one that we focus on a lot and we got some big customers that we'll be talking about the near term, but not all of it is a retail level.

Marc Robbins

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

And it also seems that in some degree, there's a little bit of the bartering. I don't know if that's the correct word or not, but the bartering for the label, rather than having as it was originally introduced two or three years ago, a penny-per-pound or penny-and-a-half per pound or whatever at the retail counter -- are you seeing any swaying back and forth as to how that gets paid or is pretty static from the last couple of years?

John Saunders

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

We continue to have the program that you just mentioned. We bill on a per-pound basis. The only alternative that we don't bill that fee is if the customer is a 100%-verification partner for us. If we're conducting the on-site audits, the labeling associated with the verification of that product goes along with the verification itself. But that's the only alternative. So as we continue to go with customers and Country Natural Beef is a great example of it, they market to probably 100 or 200 different retailers, or distributors, or call outs. So every one of those customers is a target for us to co-brand with Country Natural Beef. So that process that we go through, if you can think whether it's McDonald's, or Danone, as we look down the road, we are always trying to partner with them to carry that brand out. And again as I've mentioned in the past several times, real estate on a consumer-based package is very, very tight and it's very difficult to convince even with a program where 100% of the verifications are done to move that program through to the consumer because the cost money to do that, you have to educate consumers so on and so forth. Again, we're very pleased with where we're at, Marc. The penetration that we continue to get is very successful, although it may not be on a Quarterpounder with Cheese.

Marc Robbins

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

No? Okay. I'd like to see it on one of the McDonald’s boxes. As I recall, the business still dramatically seasonal and how does that play out?

John Saunders

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

Great question. The most seasonal industry that we operate in is the beef industry. So as the beef industry becomes more prominent as it is with China, you will see some seasonality. So we're anticipating a really strong third and fourth quarter as we have had in the past. As we have implemented other parts of our business like SaS and in the other industries that we verify, they file us, seasonal in nature. So we could see a little bit of a bump this year just because of China, Marc. But I think in general, we've done quite a bit to balance that out.

Marc Robbins

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

Okay. And then lastly, I'm sorry, my knowledge of agriculture is a little limited, but I do understand that Portland is the leading exporting port for wheat. I guess my question is -- it's kind of a weird one, so I apologize -- is wheat used as a grain material for feeding any animals? Or is it just purely bread grain, cake grain?

John Saunders

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

I'm sure it's both. My assumption was that would be the majority is for human consumption. There's by-product, some off of wheat specifically. But whereas corn and even soy beans would be used a lot more for animals consumption, I think wheat is primarily human.

Marc Robbins

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

The reason why I asked is although it's not publicized like a horrible fires in California, there's just a humongous fires in the wheat lands of all places -- around the Dallas and upper desert of mid Oregon or eastern Oregon. I was just wondering, I'm kind of thinking it might have an effect on the overall price because it eliminated just all kinds of acreage. All right. Thank you. I'll get back in the line again. Keep up the good work.

John Saunders

Analyst · Catalyst Research.

Thanks, Marc.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mike Andrews [ph], Private Investor.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning. The software side of the story is sort of really what excites me. You talked a little bit about the market size for So Organic. Can you give us a little bit of an idea, the market size for the SureHarvest system as well?

John Saunders

Analyst

Great question. It is very difficult to do in some ways. Although we do have the President to look at specific industries and probably the one that we've spent the most time is the almond industry. The mechanism that SureHarvest use to operate in their own industry, is one where on an annual basis, there's the service that's provided in addition to the core software that has delivered to the producers of the almond industry. So every year, there's almond producers that are logging into the SureHarvest's front system. They're completing a self-assessment and they're being compiled into a data aggregation system -- for lack of a better word. SureHarvest then has a very technical staff which then analyzes that information and provides scientific basis for the almond industry to use that data to talk about current issues that they're dealing with from their consumer-standpoint. Over the last 10 years, there has probably been maybe a 20% to 25% increase in that revenue associated with the almond industry, although there has been a much bigger uptake from the producer standpoint. So the reason for me telling you a story is that I really believe that within an industry, when you develop an industry such as the almond industry or the wine-grape industry, or the hazelnut, or the avocado, or the strawberry, you have a certain amount of capacity within that industry to support the sustainability efforts and the self-assessment efforts. Meaning that that software is going to be able to accomplish certain things for that industry. I don't think you're going to see exponential growth within the almond industry at this point in the maturity of the relationship between SureHarvest and the almond industry. What's important about that is that we have to go identify those other industries and those other entities which are looking to benchmark and to use their self-assessment model and then the services, the technical services of SureHarvest. The almond industry is obviously the largest industry, but what we've identified and I've talked about at several times in the past or all the other industries that we work with on a day-to-day basis of Where Food Comes From. Over the last few years since the acquisition of SureHarvest, we've made introductions into the beef industry, in the pork industry, in the dairy industry to offer the same services and the replication and the expertise that SureHarvest is able to provide the customers that they've had over the past several years. So the longer than short of it is that the growth within SureHarvest is to identify other industries of production, high-valued specialty crops, other proteins to replicate the same relationship that SureHarvest has with the existing industries to those industries. Did that help at all?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, it does. Is it safe to say that some of those industries would be substantially larger than the almond industry?

John Saunders

Analyst

Great question. Probably not. I think almonds are one largest commodity that we produce interestingly enough, specially from an exported standpoint. I'd say they're probably fairly similar.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

What's the timing of introducing the ship -- I know you mentioned it a little bit on the last call, you were working on introducing it to some other industries. What's the timing of it having the software ready to go and really push out or introduce to some of these other industries?

John Saunders

Analyst

The implementation of the software is relatively short, probably three to six months. The sales funnel in the cycle is what's difficult to predict and it could take years, in many cases it does. Even though the introductions have been made, it's a long-term proposition. So SureHarvest in the almond industry is an excess of 10 years.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thanks, guys.

John Saunders

Analyst

You got it, Mike. Thanks for the questions.

Operator

Operator

All right. We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the floor back to John Saunders for closing comments.

John Saunders

Analyst

Thanks, everybody. We look forward to talk to you again in three months.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.