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The Wendy's Company (WEN)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 2, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. Welcome to the Wendy’s Company Earnings Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Kelsey Freed, Director of Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Kelsey Freed

Analyst

Thank you and good morning, everyone. Today’s conference call and webcast includes a PowerPoint presentation, which is available on our Investor Relations website, irwendys.com. Before we begin, please take note of the Safe Harbor statement that appears at the end of our earnings release. This disclosure reminds investors that certain information we may discuss today is forward-looking. Various factors could affect our results and cause those results to differ materially from the projections set forth in our forward-looking statements. Also some of today’s comments will reference non-GAAP financial measures. Investors should refer to our reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure at the end of this presentation or in our earnings release. On our conference call today our President and Chief Executive Officer, Todd Penegor, will give a business update; and our Chief Financial Officer, Gunther Plosch, will review our 2023 third quarter results and provide an update on our outlook for the year. From there, we will open up the line for questions. And with that, I will hand things over to Todd.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Thanks Kelsey and good morning, everyone. We continued to make meaningful progress across our strategic growth pillars during the third quarter, which drove continued sales and profit growth. Our global same-restaurant sales grew 2.8% on a one-year basis, and our two-year result of 9.7% represents an acceleration of almost 100 basis points versus the third quarter. Our international business delivered same-restaurant sales growth of 7.8% and achieved an incredible 10th consecutive quarter of double-digit same-restaurant sales growth on a two-year basis, reaching 18.6%. We continue to see strong results across our key international growth markets with many achieving double-digit one-year same-restaurant sales growth during the quarter. The ongoing success of our international segment is driven by strong execution and momentum across our global growth pillars. Our US business achieved same-restaurant sales growth of 2.2% and a two-year result of 8.5%, which represents an acceleration versus the second quarter. During the quarter, we benefited from our strategic pricing actions, partially offset by an expected decline in year-over-year customer counts and a slight decline in mix. However, beginning in mid-August, we drove year-over-year customer count growth through quarter end. Our digital business accelerated in the third quarter, with global digital sales mix reaching 13% and total digital sales growing 30% year-over-year as our loyalty program continued to gain momentum. These successes supported yet another quarter of profit expansion, resulting in an 80 basis point year-over-year increase in US company-operated restaurant margin to 15.6% as sales growth drove P&L leverage and commodity inflation ease further. We also continue to make progress against our development goal, opening 72 new restaurants across the globe, totaling 152 openings year-to-date date through the third quarter. We continue to expect to reach our 2023 development target as we now have 100% of our current year pipeline open or…

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

Thanks Todd. Our third quarter results continued to highlight the consistency of our financial formula as progress against our strategic growth initiatives once again drove sales and profit growth. Our global system-wide sales grew 4.8%, achieving 13.7% growth on a two-year basis, supported by global same-store sales growth across both our US and international segments and continued global net unit growth. Our US company restaurant margin reached 15.6%, increasing 80 basis points year-over-year. This expansion was primarily due to the benefit of a higher average check, driven by cumulative pricing of 6%, partially offset by customer count declines and labor, and commodity inflation of approximately 4% and 2%, respectively. G&A decreased approximately 5%, primarily driven by lower professional fees, resulting primarily from the completion of the company's ERP implementation. Adjusted EBITDA increased 3.5% to approximately $139 million, resulting primarily from higher franchise royalty revenue, lower G&A expense, a decrease in the company's incremental investment in breakfast advertising, and an increase in US company-operated restaurant margin. These were partially offset by lower other operating income due to lapping a significant gain from insurance recoveries in the prior year, which represents a year-over-year EBITDA headwind of approximately 6% during the third quarter. The over 12% increase in adjusted earnings per share was driven by an increase in adjusted EBITDA and higher interest income. These increases were partially offset by higher amortization of cloud computing arrangement costs. Year-to-date free cash flow increased over 35% to approximately $226 million, resulting primarily from higher net income, adjusted for non-cash expenses and a decrease in payments for incentive compensation. These were partially offset by higher capital expenditures. Our strong results through the third quarter and the plans we have in place to end the year support our confidence in our 2023 and long-term financial outlook, which…

Kelsey Freed

Analyst

Thanks, GP. To start things off, we have an NDR in New York with Barclays on November 15, after which we'll attend the Stephens conference in Nashville on November 16. On November 27, we have an Investor Call with KeyBank and finally, we have a virtual NDR with TD Cowen on December 11. If you're interested in joining us at any of these events, please contact the respective sell-side analyst or equity sales contact at the host firm. Lastly, we plan to report our fourth quarter and full year earnings and host a conference call that same day on February 15. As we transition to our Q&A section, I wanted to remind everyone that due to the high number of covering analysts, we'll be limiting everyone to one question only. With that, we're ready to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from David Palmer of Evercore ISI. David, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

David Palmer

Analyst

Thanks. I wanted to ask you about unit growth and particularly the return on investment for franchisees. I know you've been working on new formats. And you touched on this last conference call, but I think it's worth going over because I think people are concerned about the higher building costs, the higher land costs and the margin compression that's naturally happened because of labor. So -- could you just kind of go through what you see as the return on investment for new units these days? And where you see that pipeline developing? Thank you.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Good morning, David. Yes, great question. We made great progress on new build designs. As you know, with Next Gen, our building costs, we took about 10% cost out, and we are also operating it more efficiently. As you go through this, if you were to have no incentives, the levered payback of a Next Gen design is about six years. So it's the one bookend. If you sign up our Build-to-Suit program, which is the most attractive program for franchisees, you get a levered return of about 3.5 years. And then obviously, we have other incentive programs like the Pacesetter that gets you to a return of about four years. And if you choose to do a Groundbreaker, it's about 5.5 years of levered return. So that's kind of what we have. It assumes the elevated – from a leverage point of view, it assumes the elevated interest rate that we are seeing in the marketplace.

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

And I think, David, the confidence in the future is really in the proof that we talked about on the call, right? We've got 2% net unit growth approximately that will hit this year with all of those open or under construction. We've now got 70% of our restaurants under development agreement through 2025. So we are building confidence, and we know we need to continue to work to take a little bit of cost out of the building and continue to drive our margins up. And we've been seeing nice healthy margins on company new restaurant openings, which been opening north of $2 million with margins above the average margins that you see for the company. So those are encouraging signs too.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Tyler Pros [ph] from Stephens Inc. Tyler your line is now. Please go ahead. Tyler, your line is now open. Please un-mute locally and proceed with your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Sorry, I was muted. Thanks for taking the question here. Can you talk a little more about the consumer and what you're seeing as far as trade down or check management? Additionally, what are you seeing in the competitive environment as far as discounting among peers?

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Yes, if you look at the consumer, it's really the tale of two sides. The over 75,000 consumer continues to be healthy. We continue to see traffic growth in that segment. We're holding our share in that segment. Under 75,000 consumers a little more stressed, especially as you go down the income core, it gets even more stressed. But again, we've lost a little bit of traffic there, but still holding our share with that consumer. From a trade down perspective, we are seeing some trade down from mid-scale casual and sit down into QSR. But we're also seeing some trade out of the category from the lower-income consumer out of QSR and into food at home. So it was kind of wash each other out along the way. We do feel like we've got a calendar that's very balanced with high and low to support both income cohorts. And our job is to continue to make sure that we create great experiences as we have those folks trade into our brand and have compelling offers to make sure as folks get a little healthier from an economic standpoint, they continue to come back into the Wendy's brand with our great promotions moving forward.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeffrey Bernstein of Barclays. Jeffery your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Jeffrey Bernstein

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much. Just wondering if you could talk a little bit about -- I think you mentioned the comps start to improve in mid-August. In fact, traffic was positive. I'm just wondering if you could talk a little bit about what you think was the driver of the uptick I know of the big burger players, it seems like optically, you're perhaps lagging your two biggest burger players. I know you mentioned holding your dollar and percent market share. So I'm just wondering, if you can connect the dots with a little bit more detail in terms of the competitive marketplace and your positioning relative to those largest peers. And again, the improvement that you saw in mid-August, what you think the drivers of that were?

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Thanks for the question, Jeffrey. As you think about the start to the quarter, we were up against some really strong comps from a year ago. with the success of Strawberry Frosty. We thought we had a strong promotion with the BOGO for $1. It didn't bring in as many add-ons early in the quarter as we had anticipated. But we also didn't have any media support or promotional support on the breakfast business at the start of the quarter. We are rolling off of the $3 Cresson deal and really did set ourselves up with a lot of support or news to compete in the first half of the quarter but as the quarter evolved, we made some several challenges. We launched on the premium side in the middle of the quarter with the Loaded Nacho Cheeseburger and Kcell fries. We brought news to breakfast with the English Muffin. We started our NCAA cup promotion and we launched a very compelling 2 for 3 breakfast Biggie Bag bundles. We started to see our business immediately shift and bring more customers in as we put those news and promotions out and then soon after that, the Pumpkin Spice Frosty launched, which created some additional support. And with all of that, we saw our one and two-year same-restaurant sales accelerate each month within the quarter. And importantly, we started to deviate from category trends with us starting to grow customer counts as we exited the quarter versus the category, QSR burger category being a little more challenged.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Danilo Gargiulo of Bernstein. Danilo, your line is open. Please go ahead.

DaniloGargiulo

Analyst

Thank you. In your opening remarks, you mentioned offering more consistent value promotion. So can you elaborate on that point? And what are you planning to maintain strong restaurant level margins for the next few quarters as a result of your strategy?

GuntherPlosch

Analyst

Good morning, Danilo. Yeah. I mean value is important for our consumers. As Todd answered the previous question, right the income cohort that is earning less than $75,000 a year. They are having less frequency in opting out of the category. So as a result of this value bundles are important. I would say we've done a great job to move away from 4 for 4 and really upgrade the consumer to 4, 5 and 6 big bags. We have done a similar thing now instead of doing like a $1 across our promotion. We are moving to 243, which, again, is creating overall better economics. When you see it in our company restaurant P&L, our margin in the quarter was up 80 basis points despite still 2% commodity inflation and 4% labor inflation. If you take the whole year, the whole year, our company restaurant margin sits at 15.9%. It's actually above cobidlevals and we expanded profitability by about 190 basis points. So it's a good balancing act that is driving good consumer engagement without actually giving up on restaurant economic model and other way around, we're actually expanding profitability.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

It said it well. It's a nice balanced calendar. We've talked about that historically, and we continue to make sure that we're there for the consumer, but also make sure that we're working a strong restaurant economic model. And you see that in the construct of our everyday Biggie Bag bundles at breakfast, good margin construct on that. You see that on the evolution of our Biggie Bag rest of day as we've evolved from 4 for $4 to $5 and $6. And you'll see a nice balance between digital offers new news like Peppermint Frosty coming back into the fourth quarter, and we'll continue to make sure we bring some exciting innovations as we close out the year on the premium side.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Charles from TD Cowen. Andrew, Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andrew Charles

Analyst

Great. Thanks. Todd, two part question on breakfast. First, just curious if you look back over the last year or so post COVID, how would you describe the progress of driving breakfast trial and to have it? And separately, you talked about the success of the $2 for $3 breakfast promo in the quarter. How do you plan to improve breakfast profitability as value activity for the category is likely to persist and likely put pressure on continued promotions during the day part.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Yes, we're still on a journey. Trying to ingrain the breakfast daypart and the habit, it takes some time. We've been doing, a nice job. We've got good awareness. We have been driving trial. We continue to have an opportunity to bring our rest of day customer in and get them into our breakfast daypart. But we're still, what I would characterize in the early innings of breakfast. And you see that where we need to continue to make sure that we've got news, we did that in this quarter with Frosty Cream Cold Brew, with English Muffin. We do know we need to have compelling value, 2 for $3 is compelling value, but it's constructed very nicely to make sure that it works for the restaurant economic model as well for the consumer. And we just need to be consistent, be consistent on with compelling value. Biggie Bundles gives us that platform to do that and we continue to be consistent out there with messaging, letting the consumer know that Wendy's is open for breakfast. So, it is a journey. It's been progressing well. We've continued to establish that daypart for us and we know we've got a lot of opportunity for growth still ahead of us.

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

And Andrew, as you know, right, the breakfast business is above average profitability even when we promote, we still basically maintain above-average profitability. That's the reason why we keep leaning in, keep innovating, keep price promoting to continue to drive the break in habit and building our business because long-term, it's a sustained tailwind to our margin progression.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Gregory Francfort from Guggenheim. Gregory, your line is now open, please go ahead.

Gregory Francfort

Analyst

Hey, thanks for the question. GP, I just had a question on balance sheet and cash usages. And it sounded like on the prepared remarks, you were talking about maybe no change to the capital structure, but I think you've been buying back a little bit of debt here. And I'm wondering, as you look forward the next two or three years, what's your thoughts are on leverage and what your thoughts are on potentially the pushes and pulls between share repurchase and debt repurchase? Thanks.

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

Good morning Greg. Yes, we are sitting in a great position, right? Our cash balance is a little bit more than $600 million. As you know, we have securitized debt structure that's very well-laddered. So, when is our next debt action is clearly end of 2025 when we have to buy back our -- payback our debentures is about $50 million outstanding. And then the first WBS debt that's going to be refinanced in 2026. So, we have time to await what the financial markets are going to do. We are sitting currently at about a 5.2 times -- sorry, on the 4.7 times leverage ratio. So, it's well below the five to six times I started on seven years ago. I would expect with that trajectory that leverage will be naturally delever and you will also see us definitely continuing to look at our debt and maybe buy back more. You've seen the sign the Board has increased our debt authorization. So, if you get all of that done, we will have bought back $85 million of debt on top of the mandatory authorization. So, the balancing act, we're obviously trying to protect a very, very attractive dividend so that you can continue to see from us. And you can also expect, obviously, share repurchases is continuing to be part of our choices. As you know, we have leaned in on a year-to-date basis. We have bought back $168 million on a prorated basis, really, that would be $125 million on the year. So we are leaning in. So clearly, if you leave the authorization unchanged for the next three years, share repurchases will step down a little bit.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

The great news is we've got a lot of flexibility to GP's point on the balance sheet with a lot of cash today and a lot of free cash flow generation that we've got built into the outlook, and we know we can continue to drive that which gives us the opportunity to invest in growth first and foremost and return a lot of cash to the shareholders in various forms over time.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Dennis Geiger from UBS. Dennis, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

DennisGeiger

Analyst

Great. Thanks very much. I wanted to ask a little bit more about late night and maybe even the snacking daypart opportunities is it seems like you're making good gains in late night this year. Is this still a notable opportunity into '24? And then I assume staffing and operations are some of the key drivers to help unlock that opportunity. But how much maybe is digital and loyalty because you guys look to maybe continue to push on those dayparts? Thank you.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Yes. Late night continues to be a fast-growing segment of the QSR business, and we're outperforming the category at late night, and we continue to have a lot of opportunity to continue momentum. We've led the way on late night with company. We've extended Albers operation now across the system. We've made a lot of progress, and there's still a lot of opportunity across various regions of the country where we know we can do even more at late night. It's a great business, a lot of incremental volume without adding any labor. We do see a big delivery business at late night with that nice average check. We have seen staffing improve across all dayparts and turnover improve, which has certainly helped us staff the restaurant all the way from breakfast through the late-night daypart. But we do think that there's still a lot of leg room and opportunity to grow that business. And we know we can create and deliver some of the best food in the business when we're fully customized make to order at that late-night day part.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Jon Tower of Citi. Jon, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Jon Tower

Analyst

Great. Thanks for taking the question. Just curious, maybe you guys can expand upon your expectations for balancing pricing next year with new product news. I know obviously, can't dictate where franchisees are going with price and there will continue to be some inflationary pressures in the business. And obviously, there's some stresses happening at the lower income levels of the consumer and maybe even spreads beyond that. So just curious how you're thinking about pricing actions next year? And maybe a follow-up to that.

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

Good morning, Jon. Yes, it all ties to our long-term guidance, right? We have said that we're expecting mid-single-digit overall sales growth with low single-digit same restaurant sales growth. And the same restaurant sales growth is really driven by flattish traffic, slightly positive mix and the rest is oil price, right? So it's very low pricing versus what we have done in the past. Just as a recap this year, we're expecting effective price increase in the company restaurant of about 7%, 5% of that was carryover, 2% was new. Just to foresee a little bit, we did our last price increase in May of this year. We are going to do a small price increase at the end of this year to set us up for next year. So we're definitely expecting a moderating pricing environment and therefore, that's the posture that we are taking.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

I think from a calendar perspective, I think you'll see a continued balance across our calendar. How do we continue to focus on the core, to have the best hamburgers, chicken sandwiches in the business. What new news do we bring to keep Made to Crave fresh and ownable to the Wendy's brand? And how do we continue to lead into some of our ownable platforms like biggy bags and biggy bundles at lunch, dinner and then now into breakfast. I think we'll find that right balance that works for the consumer and continues to work for the restaurant economic model for our franchise community.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Rahul Krotth [ph] from JPMorgan. Rahul, please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning guys. Thanks for taking my question. I have a question about the company stores performance versus the franchise stores in the U.S. Can you just break out the dynamics here? Where is the drag coming from? Is it Florida stores? And can you also remind us if there are any remodels for the company stores planned for the rest of the year? And I have a follow-up.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

I think it's more a function of the footprint, quite honestly. When you think of where the company is located. We got restaurants up in the Northeast with the Boston market. We're in the Chicago market. We're in the Denver market. We're here in Columbus and then down in Florida. We started with much higher AUVs than the franchisees in many of those markets. And we've had a lot of growth, if you go back and look at it over a four-year perspective in the company market. So if you look at where we are performing relative to the franchise community in those markets, we're largely performing in line with them. Anything else to add, GP on that?

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

Yes. I think a lot of you also have to do with the comps, right, on a one-year basis, there is a gap of about two points. If we just go back only on a two-year basis, you will find that the company has grown 7.6% and the U.S. system has grown 8.5%. So the gap is narrowing very, very quickly. So it's a function of comps. Again, we are benefiting from much higher AUVs in the company restaurants. We like that because obviously, our cash profit per restaurant is pretty high.

Operator

Operator

And our final question today comes from Sara Senatore from Bank of America. Sara, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Sara Senatore

Analyst

Thank you. Just quickly, royalty. You mentioned that active users grew $5 million. And I guess I have two questions. You mentioned like there's some selling offers. How profitable are these offers are you thinking about them more as like the acquisition cost transactions still sort of margin neutral or accretive? And then maybe following on to that, what kind of lift do you see when you convert members to be active users, if you have any measures on frequency or spend over time, just to get a sense of sort of the trade-offs of customer acquisition versus the lifetime value? Thanks.

Todd Penegor

Analyst

Yes, thanks for the question. So I'll start and GP can add on wherever he thinks he needs to add on. The great news is we did make a nice 5% increase in our total loyalty members hitting $35 million. So we're proud of that. But more importantly, that 40% increase in the monthly active users. We've got folks to get into the app with some compelling values, the Penny JBC on non-National Cheeseburger Day, clearly drove folks in. And we want to get folks into the app because what we do see is more frequency and higher checks over time for those consumers. So we're seeing all of that data happen. Early on, you've got maybe on par check, maybe slightly lower check with the offers that you see, but that's more than made up by the lifetime value with the frequency that you get over time. And we can then really leverage all the data to really connect and have more personalized rather than blanket offers out to the consumer environment. And we're in the early innings of really ramping up our one-to-one marketing ability, the platforms and the base is built, but we're looking forward to that being a nice generator to help our margins over time. Anything else, GP?

Gunther Plosch

Analyst

I think you said it all.

Kelsey Freed

Analyst

All right. Thank you, sir. That was our last question of the call. Thanks, Todd and GP, and thank you, everyone, for participating this morning. We look forward to speaking with you again on our fourth quarter call in January. Have a great day. You may now disconnect.