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The Wendy's Company (WEN)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Wed, May 6, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Paula, and I'll be your conference facilitator. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to The Wendy's Company First Quarter Earnings Results Call. All audio lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. This call is being recorded and access instructions will be provided via email after the call. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to your host, Mr. David Poplar, Vice President-Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

David D. Poplar - Vice President-Investor Relations

Management

Thank you. And good morning, everyone. Our conference call today will start with comments from our President and Chief Executive Officer, Emil Brolick, who will highlight our key initiatives and provide an update on the progress we are making on our brand transformation. After Emil, our Chief Financial Officer, Todd Penegor, will review our first quarter financial results and outlook. After that, we will open up the phone line for questions. Today's conference call and webcast includes a PowerPoint presentation, which is available on the Investors section of our website, www.aboutwendys.com. Before we begin, I'd like to refer you for just a minute to the Safe Harbor statement in our earnings release. Certain information we may discuss today is forward-looking. Various factors could affect our results and cause those results to differ materially from the projections set forth in our forward-looking statements. Also, some of the comments today will reference non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, and adjusted earnings per share. Investors should refer to our reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measure. And with that, I will now turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Emil Brolick. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Thank you, David. And good morning, everyone. In the first quarter, we continued our brand transformation journey, as we saw the continued strengthening of The Wendy's Company economic model and continued improvement of our restaurant-level economic model, which is critical to our franchise operators. Brand relevance and economic model relevance are the two major forces that enable us to create value for our franchisees, which in turn enables us to provide a compelling income and growth investment scenario for our shareholders. Our first quarter efforts and results reflected continued…

David D. Poplar - Vice President-Investor Relations

Management

Thank you, Todd. Please note that we will be returning scheduled calls with the sell-side for the remainder of the day. But if you need to reach us, please e-mail me at david.poplar@wendys.com or leave a message at 614-764-3311, and we will get back to you as soon as we can. Before we open up the phone line for questions, I'd like to review some upcoming events on our Investor Relations calendar. On June 1, we will host our Annual Meeting here at our Dublin headquarters. On June 3, we will issue our updated outlook before the market opens and host a conference call at 9:00 a.m. Eastern Time. We will be in touch with our sell-side analysts in the near future to schedule follow-up calls on that day. On June 22, Emil, Todd, Greg Lemenchick and I will participate in the Stifel's Executive Summit at Baltusrol in New Jersey, and we will meet with investors in New York on the following day, June 23. Please touch base with Paul Westra or Kerry Oelkers at Stifel if you are interested in meeting with us on either of those two days. Looking further ahead, we plan to issue our second quarter earnings on August 5, and our third quarter earnings on November 4. Greg and I also plan to attend the C.L. King Conference in New York on September 10. And now, we are ready to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Will Slabaugh of Stephens Incorporated.

Will Slabaugh - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks, guys. Just had a quick question on same-store sales growth. You mentioned the company stores underperformed your expectations a little bit, but the franchise stores coming in roughly in line. Could you talk about the differences there and what you think led to that underperformance? And then also, the contribution that you think came from the remodels, and while maybe that's not flowing through as big as we may have expected at this point? Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. Will, this is Emil. Let me just comment on the underperformance, and then I'll flip it over to Todd. As I mentioned in my comments, I feel that the area of opportunity we have in our calendar remains the price/value area. And as I look at competitive messaging and the flow of our business on the day parts, there's no doubt in my mind that that was the difference between where we would have liked to have been for the quarter and where we ended up. And while it wasn't a significant miss, it was a little lighter. And as I look at the remainder of the calendar for the year, though, I feel very optimistic and comfortable on our outlook for sales guidance. So, Todd, maybe you can provide some perspective on... Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah, so a little more detail, Will, on the Image Activation program. As you know, we did a lot of restaurants in the third quarter and fourth quarter last year. And in the earnings release, we stated that we saw a nice tailwind to same-system – or to same-restaurant sales for the company – of 150 basis points from IA. But we're also getting a lot more IAs now from in the system. So the delta between the company and the system is a little over a point of same-restaurant sales growth. What really closed the gap down is we just had carry-over pricing built into our plan during the course of this year. The franchise community, when they saw the beef inflation coming their way, were much more aggressive on pricing during the course of the first quarter. So they took a little more pricing, which really narrowed the gap between the company and the franchise numbers.

Will Slabaugh - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst

That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jeff Farmer of Wells Fargo.

Jeffrey D. Farmer - Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Thank you. Can you guys compare the wage inflation and crew turnover environment that you and your franchisees are seeing today versus maybe what you experienced in recent years? I'm just curious if this is intensifying as sort of quickly as we read in the press. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. Jeff, this is Emil. I'll jump in on that. And I think we feel that the market has definitely tightened up in terms of supply of labor. And the way that we're approaching that across our system is very much on a situational basis as opposed to taking a broad-brush approach with that. And we have a subscription service that we use that we're able to understand our wage rates locally versus competitors in virtually every DMA in the country. So we have a pretty good understanding of the exact gaps that exist, not only for our team members, but also for the management positions in our restaurants. And we continue to manage that very, very tightly and respond as is appropriate in those situations, and I feel we have quite a good handle on this. Does that answer the question, Jeff?

Jeffrey D. Farmer - Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

Yeah, that works. And then if I can, just one more. So admittedly reaching here with this question because you did make it clear that you're going to update guidance on June 3, but is there an opportunity to see a material change in your expectations for either adjusted EBITDA or EPS as you move into the back half of 2015 or 2016 in terms of everything that's going on? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah, at this stage, Jeff, we're going to pass and provide updated guidance on June 3. I mean, we've got a lot of moving pieces as we talked about in the earnings release between the sale of the bakery which we expect to close this month, the completion of the refinancing on June 1, and then, ultimately, how we want to execute a share repurchase program. So we'd want to wait and provide full details of that on a call on June 3.

Jeffrey D. Farmer - Analyst, Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Analyst

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Sara Senatore of Bernstein. Jonathan Ryan Wing - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC: Hey, guys. This is Jonathan in for Sara. Just two quick questions for you. I guess, first, just thinking about comps in the context of competition, could you just give us an update on sort of how the competitive environment is changing? Is it getting more intense or less intense? Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Hey, Jonathan, Emil. I'd say that actually the pattern we're seeing is pretty consistent out there. I don't see dramatic shifts one way or another. And as I mentioned, I think the area that we have to continue to refine is in terms of price/value. But when I look at the first quarter, we really had a nice start with our Asiago Ranch Chicken Club. It performed very, very nicely. February, quite honestly, we were rolling over fairly soft numbers in terms of weather, but we had an awful lot of weather that impacted us in February. And then in March, with our salad event – our core salad event – again we had a very nice experience with that. So I think the area of opportunity for us continues to be refining our price/value messages. But as we look through the remainder of the year, we do have secondary messages planned throughout the year. And also that we look at the current event, the Jalapeno Fresco Chicken Club and the Ghost Fries have started off very, very nicely and we're extremely pleased with what we're seeing there. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: And, Jonathan, beyond the top line, we feel really good on the margin front. As you saw in the release today, up…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein of Barclays. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Good morning, Jeffrey.

Jeffrey A. Bernstein - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Morning. Two questions; just one, following up on that, Todd, you talk about the restaurant margin improvements, which – the uptick obviously impressive, especially I think you mentioned you took a 160 basis point hit from commodities led by beef. So my first question is just kind of that, which is the leverage you saw was pretty strong. I'm just wondering to what you attribute that to. And should we still assume that 4% inflation in 2015? And I don't know whether your suppliers are giving you any insight that maybe the beef market will see less inflation as we look to 2016, which is something we've been hearing? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Despite some of the weather that Emil alluded to, we felt very good about the margins during the course of the quarter. It really was a function of some of the carry-over pricing that we had that flowed through nicely to the bottom. Strong mix, as we focused on a couple of salad LTOs and salad promotion during the quarter. But importantly, as you get into the tailwinds, we're seeing the impact of the IA with that 1.5% tailwind in same-restaurant sales growth with nice, strong flow-throughs that fall into the bottom line. And then you do get into the impacts of we did close some restaurants along the way. That's why we're at a net closure position end of last year, early this year; as well as the System Optimization initiative, which we're starting to see the benefits of that flow through on the margin front. And all of that was enough to really offset that higher beef inflation. We did update our guidance on margin for the year. So even though we've moved our same-restaurant sales number from approximately 3% to 2.5% to 3% to reflect the results slowing from the first quarter. We did take our guidance on margin up to 16.5% to 17%, and that's really a function of where we thought we'd see inflation at the beginning of this year, upwards of 4%. We're now tracking at about 1.5%. Beef remains high, but it's not as high as we had anticipated when we provided guidance earlier this year.

Jeffrey A. Bernstein - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

And I mean that's going from 4% to 1.5% with some beef. Do you have any optimism into 2016 that you could see things roll over and actually turn favorable with beef or less inflation? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Still a little too early to tell. We really still think that it will be a high beef price environment into next calendar year, into 2016. But the delta year-on-year will continue to moderate as we come off of that much higher base. We wouldn't expect at this stage to actually see beef turn around and start to come down in later part of 2016 or early 2017 at this stage based on what we're seeing from supply and demand and where the herds stand today.

Jeffrey A. Bernstein - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Got you. And then my other one was just on the refranchisings. I guess I think you mentioned the demand for the 500-plus sites was actually quite strong. I know you guys have stuck with that $400 million to $475 million proceeds, which I guess is roughly $800,000 per store. I'm just wondering is that the level that you were seeing with your initial or like where do you come up with that range and what type of multiple does that imply? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. So it's right where we've been historically in the 5 to 6 multiple. It's really a function of these restaurants being higher AUV and higher margin and higher cash flow that we're going to see more proceeds. We provided, purposely, a very wide range on Analyst Day of the $400 million to $475 million because it was the approximately 500, and we didn't have the specific restaurants or markets identified. So we're still comfortable that we're within that range as we've refined the specific markets that we intend to sell in those specific restaurants within the markets.

Jeffrey A. Bernstein - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Karen Holthouse of Goldman Sachs. Karen Holthouse - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Hi. Thank you for taking the question. So I'm trying to understand a little bit, is the long-term guidance for new-builds and the commentary on where stores opening at $1.9 million right now. Could we get an update on what you expect unit economics for new-builds to look like in 2015? And then bridging to the longer term payback goal, how much of that is sort of the top line versus margin? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. So I guess on the new restaurant side, we've historically talked about sales to investment ratios of about 1.1 times, excluding the land. We've got a stated goal to increase that to north of 1.3 times. We're working towards that goal, so we're not all the way there yet. But the good news is even though we haven't improved the economics to the goal that we want on the sales to investment ratio, we've got a lot of engagement by our franchise community where they actually see what these restaurants can do in the eyes of the consumers moving forward. So we're getting some great support, hence the visibility to 80 new restaurants in total across the company and the franchise community during the course of this year. And the follow-up, second part of the question was? Karen Holthouse - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah. Just thinking about over the multi-year, getting to the target, how much of that comes from more of a top line to the sales to investment piece of it, particularly given margin strength that we're seeing versus the margin side of things? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Palmer of RBC Capital. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Good morning, David.

Jack Kindregan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. This is Jack Kindregan on for David Palmer. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Hi, Jack.

Jack Kindregan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

I was wondering if you could comment on the shift in your marketing energy towards a better balance between the core and value and the premium LTOs. Just wondering if that would be a drag on check growth, but perhaps helping your traffic and throughput and maybe on the margin side as well this quarter. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: No. We actually see that, pretty much as upside. And it is a refinement. This is not a dramatic change that you're going to see, but it's definitely a refinement, and I think you're going to continue to see check benefits from our promotions, as well as we just wanted to get a richer mix and a more targeted mix on the price/value arena. And our sense is that one of the areas that has been more competitive is specifically the lunch day part, and I think that we can do a better job with some targeted messages there in terms of a price point that is more important at the lunch day part to be more successful with that.

Jack Kindregan - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Buckley of Bank of America. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Morning, Joe.

Joseph Terrence Buckley - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you. I was wondering if I could get some clarification on the comment about the Image Activation restaurants contributing 150 basis points to the company's same-store sales. What exactly does that mean? Like, how did they comp versus the system? Is that the weighted impact? I'm not quite sure what you're conveying. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah, Joe. So that is the weighted impact. So on the company same-restaurant sales side, the 2.6% growth, 150 basis points of that 2.6% growth is really driven by the impact that the Image Activation restaurants have on comp sales. So those would be restaurants that were constructed during the course of last year and the beginning of this year that have gotten into the comp phase.

Joseph Terrence Buckley - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

So maybe just to be more transparent, could you give us what the comp number was for the Image Activation restaurants? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Well, we don't specifically disclose the comps for the IA restaurants, but we're continuing to see lifts in that range of 10% to 15% on those restaurants that are sustainable lifts post the grand opening phase.

Joseph Terrence Buckley - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay. And then just a question on the refranchising; how should we be thinking about the moving parts of it going forward? Are there different individual deals on royalty rates or fees, depending on whether restaurants are reimaged or not? And will there be a big – do you have a sense yet of the ownership of the real estate on the restaurants that'll be refranchised that would obviously affect the rental income? Just any help on the moving parts would be appreciated. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. So, Joe, like we did in the sale of the restaurants west of the Mississippi in Sys Op 1, we're going to continue to retain the real estate on the sales of these restaurants. The percentage of dirt underneath the restaurants is fairly consistent with what we've done for System Optimization 3, consistent with what we did in the original System Optimization 1 initiative. We aren't doing anything special around royalty rates as we move forward. A differentiator in these bids is if they come in at a full-price bid and they want to do something a little bit different around pacing and sequencing of IAs or more on the new restaurant build scenario, those are items that they can put forth. But all of those will be out there to help solidify our goals of 60% IA restaurants by 2020 and 1,000 gross new restaurants by 2020.

Joseph Terrence Buckley - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Gallo of C.L. King. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Good morning, Michael. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Hey, Mike. Michael W. Gallo - C.L. King & Associates, Inc.: Good morning. My question is just if you had a – as you have a little more time and you kind of refined the program around System Optimization – I was wondering if there's any change you're thinking about how we should think about SG&A per store once you ultimately get through this initiative? Obviously, the SG&A in the quarter, which might have been timing-wise, certainly was at a lower pace than we would have expected. Thanks. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah, Michael. So we've reconfirmed today that we're at the approximately $250 million G&A for this year. Our guidance kind of post-System Optimization 3 is to have that gravitate down to about $230 million, so we will see an improvement over time at a per-restaurant level. And like we've always said in the past, we'll continue to look at G&A to make sure we're getting a nice reinvestment for the expense that we have on the books. And what we did as part of the realignment and G&A cuts that we did in the fourth quarter of last year, we did take some of that money and put it back into development and technology because we do believe that we'll get a return for that investment. We'll continue to look at those things as we move forward post-System Optimization 3. Are we getting an adequate return on investment for the support that we're providing to the franchise community? Michael W. Gallo - C.L. King & Associates, Inc.: Okay. Also, just to follow up, I'm not sure if you commented on it, but was there any thought as to how much you'd expect to get for the bakery business? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah, we haven't commented on that, so we'll provide more specific details on that when we get to the June 3 date. We're hoping to finalize the negotiations and complete the sale by the end of May. Michael W. Gallo - C.L. King & Associates, Inc.: Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of John Glass of Morgan Stanley. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Good morning, John. John Glass - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thanks so much. Good morning. A few follow-ups. First, Emil, just on the value component, did you forego a traditional value message in January that maybe you've done in the past or the competitors? And how do you think about how you want to address that specifically? I know you're focusing on margins, so you're trying to get away from that dollar messaging now, and maybe that's one of the nuances you're trying to work through? Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Yeah. John, I do think that there is a migration that's taking place in terms of the use of value menus and the role that they play in QSRs and I think a lot of brands are seeing that. And we did have $1.29 Monterey Ranch Chicken Sandwich underneath the message in January; and really we were very happy with the start we had to the year, as I mentioned, and we hit some tough weather in February that definitely had an impact. Followed that up with the salad event that we're pretty happy with. So that's definitely part of the migration that you'll see us take place, John, in terms of how we use that message and where we use it. John Glass - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC: Thanks. And then, Todd, just what is the size of the bakery business? Do you make money from it right now? How do we look at it in the P&L currently? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. So if you go back to the…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Keith Siegner of UBS.

Keith R. Siegner - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks. Two questions. First one. Emil, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about some of the recent leadership changes in the marketing and innovation side of the business with the appointment of a new Chief Concept Officer and maybe some other departures? Just talk a little bit about the changes to that leadership team, if you wouldn't mind. Thanks. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Sure. Well, first of all, we did have our Chief Marketing Officer, Craig Bahner, leave us. And as you may have read that Craig has been appointed the president of a significant business and a packaged goods manufacturing business, and so that was his transition. And we had the opportunity to bring in Kurt Kane, and Kurt was someone who I knew from my time at Yum! Brands. He's an outstanding leader and we wanted just someone with a broader perspective on the business in terms of not just the marketing and the food innovation, but his title of Chief Concept Officer reflects a broader influence we want him to have on the organization. And clearly, we move in a very rapidly-changing world today, and assuring brand relevance is something that becomes extremely important. And so I think Kurt is going to have an important influence on that. The other thing is Kurt has very extensive experience globally. He was responsible not only for the domestic marketing at Pizza Hut, but also the global marketing. And certainly, we have high hopes and expectations and we're very enthusiastic about things we're seeing in our global business, and we believe that Kurt can play an important role and having a positive influence on the success of that part of our business.

Keith R. Siegner - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks. And then just one quick follow-up, Todd. That's a fairly meaningful adjustment in the inflation outlook from the previous update of 4% to now 1.5%, especially given B50s have been up. If you could just talk a little bit about where the savings come from, was this actual commodity prices? Are you doing something more effective in terms of hedging and/or purchasing? Anything on that front would be helpful. Thank you. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. So nothing different on how we're purchasing the beef. It's really against an expectation of where we think beef prices are coming out. As you know, we buy them basically three months in arrears based on where the average prices are in the marketplace. That program has been consistently applied year-on-year. We were getting very nervous when we looked at supply and demand at the beginning of this year and where we thought beef's price might run during the course of the summer, when you get into the summer barbecue season. Our anticipation was much higher inflation on beef than what we're actually experiencing. And we're starting to buy into the middle of third quarter right now, so we've got a pretty good sense of where the beef costs are, so had the confidence to update the guidance for the year.

Keith R. Siegner - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst

Thank you much.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Carlson of KeyBanc. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Hey, David.

David Carlson - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Good morning. I just want to circle back around on the G&A question that was asked earlier. Can you guys talk about the cadence of G&A throughout the year? I'm just really trying to understand what could possibly cause G&A to build throughout the balance of the year, given that System Optimization initiative, a lot of it – the vast majority of the refranchising is yet to take place. At this pace, it's looking like about $10 million positive benefit to EBITDA, but you guys have reiterated $250 million. Just trying to get a better handle on that? Thank you. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. So some of it – if you look at the first quarter, it's much lower than what the run rate, obviously, is to get to the $250 million. And some of that's a function of when we did the G&A realignment initiative at the end of last year, we had several individuals leave the organization and we reallocated resources and were rehiring some resources, so it's really the pacing and sequencing of when they come back into the business here during the course of the second quarter. So it's really more of a timing function than anything else. So you will see that uptick. And then you'll start to see how things start to transpire as we sell restaurants later in the year. So the first tranche of restaurants that we plan to sell as part of System Optimization 3 happens very late in the year, so you don't start to see any of the real significant G&A savings until you flow through into 2016. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Does that answer your question, David?

David Carlson - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

I'm good. Thank you, guys. Emil J. Brolick - President, Chief Executive Officer & Director: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your final question comes from the line of John Ivankoe of JPMorgan.

Amod Gautam - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Hey. Good morning. It's Amod Gautam filling in. Todd, you talked about the profitability for the bakery. What was the CapEx spent in 2014 for bakery? Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: We spend about $7 million of CapEx at the bakery. It's one of those things that we have lines that need to be maintained and upgraded. We do do direct distribution to the restaurants, to the freezers. And it's one of those investments that, over time, is going to need some more CapEx put into the facility to continue to keep that facility upgraded. And as we looked at the long-term outlook for the business and looked at where the uses of cash needed to go and with the evolution of moving from high-speed buns to artisan buns, we look at that as a non-core asset and thought the appropriate thing to do would be to put it in the hands of a true bakery operator to support our business as appropriate moving forward, and then get a nice return for the sale of that bakery.

Amod Gautam - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. And it seems like just taking a little bit of a longer-term view because you're obviously going through this multi-year transformation, 2018 seems like the first sort of steady-state year post-refranchising, and at that point, you've guided to $75 million of CapEx. So can you just bucket out how much of that is kind of growth CapEx or associated with IT, et cetera, versus maintenance? And it still seems relatively high, given that you'll be 95% plus franchised, and I think there's a number of peers that probably spend less CapEx as a percentage of EBITDA at that point. Todd A. Penegor - Chief Financial Officer & Senior Vice President: Yeah. We'll provide more specific guidance on the breakout of the ongoing run rate of CapEx on June 3 when we update the full long-term guidance. But in that number, you have some new restaurant development that we'll continue to do. You get to that stage where the restaurants that we have retained, that 5% we've reimaged them early in the game, so we'll need some more money to go back and to keep those restaurants fresh and up-to-date, and we're going to continue to invest in technology. So those are the three big components that go into that bucket, but we'll give you more visibility and clarity on that as part of the June 3 discussion.

Amod Gautam - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time, we have no further questions. This does conclude our conference call for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.