Good morning. My name is Molly, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to The Wendy's Company First Quarter Earnings Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to David Poplar. You may begin your conference.

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Our conference call today will start with comments from our President and CEO, Emil Brolick, who will highlight our key initiatives and provide an update on the progress we are making with our brand transformation. After Emil, our Chief Financial Officer, Todd Penegor, will review our first quarter financial results and outlook. After that, we will open up the line for questions. Today's conference call and webcast include a PowerPoint presentation, which is available on the Investors section of our corporate website, www.aboutwendys.com. Before we begin, I'd like to refer you for just a minute to the Safe Harbor statement in our earnings release. Certain information we may discuss today regarding future performance, such as financial goals, plans and development, is forward-looking. Various factors could affect the company's results and cause those results to differ materially from those expressed in our forward-looking statements. Also, some of the comments today will reference non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share. Investors should refer to our reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure. And with that, I will now turn it over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Emil Brolick. Emil?

Thank you, David, and good morning to everyone. Todd and I will be updating you on the solid first quarter performance of our core North American business, which we continue to feel has excellent long-term growth potential. We will also provide a current perspective on our brand transformation, which is making the Wendy's brand increasingly relevant to consumers while enhancing our restaurant economic model. During the first quarter, we made considerable progress on all dimensions of our brand transformation, and momentum continues to build. This momentum resulted in a strong first quarter, with 1.3% same-restaurant sales growth at our company-operated restaurants. As you are all aware, quarter 1 same-restaurant sales across the industry were negatively impacted by winter weather. We remain confident in the underlying strength of our business as sales rebounded nicely in the second half of the quarter, with good sales momentum continuing into quarter 2. We also experienced solid growth in adjusted EBITDA and adjusted earnings per share, consistent with our expectations. The cornerstone of our brand transformation is our Image Activation initiative, which began in 2011 and is contemporizing Wendy's presence and increasing our brand relevance. The pace of Image Activation is accelerating in 2014, and we are on target to hit our growth goals. I'm also pleased to report that we completed the sale of 418 company restaurants to new and existing franchisees ahead of schedule. These restaurants were part of the system optimization initiative that we announced last summer. We believe our ongoing optimization effort will provide essential stewardship in elevating the relevance of the Wendy's brand in the minds of consumers and improve our economic model. We anticipate the purchase and sale of Wendy's Restaurants will continue to be part of our growth strategy going forward. Growth is the imperative for the Wendy's…

Thank you, Emil. Let's start by taking a look at our first quarter financials. Our company-operated same-restaurant sales growth of 1.3% in the first quarter, on top of 1% last year, represents a strong performance, especially considering that we achieved it with adverse weather conditions in January and February as well as the negative impact from the 2013 discontinuation of breakfast in most of our restaurants. We also reported a 30 basis point improvement in restaurant margin due to same-restaurant sales growth fueled by our innovation. Our adjusted earnings growth was solid, as our adjusted EBITDA grew 13% and our adjusted EPS more than doubled. It's also important to note that the reported same-restaurant sales growth in the first quarter doesn't completely capture the momentum we are seeing in our business. This chart shows our last 5 quarters of sequential North American same-restaurant sales growth for the company-operated restaurants. As you can see, growth accelerated to more than 3% in the back half of 2013, and we started 2014 with 1.3% in the first quarter. The right side of this chart shows that the first quarter was clearly a tale of 2 halves, with negative comparable sales in the first half and strong positive sales in the second half as weather improved. We saw comparable sales improvement of more than 500 basis points in the back half of the quarter. As Emil mentioned, this positive momentum has continued into the second quarter, as we are currently seeing comparable sales trends similar to what we saw in the third and fourth quarters last year. Now let's take a look at our financial summary for Q1. Total revenue decreased 13.3% versus the prior year. The decrease was the result of lost revenue from the sale of company restaurants to franchisees from our…

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Andrew Charles with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Todd, how much did reimaging incentives for franchisees total in 1Q? And do you still expect to spend about $8 million in total on incentives this year?

Yes, in the first quarter, Andrew, we had about $900,000 of franchise incentives that had come through the P&L. And remember, on a full year basis, we are targeting $8 million, but the mix is a little bit different. We've got about $3 million of true cash incentives. We've got about $3 million of royalty relief, and then there's a couple of million dollars around construction support, which is just the G&A initiative that we have internally to support them to continue to build the restaurants.

And if I could slip one more, Emil, with most restaurants featuring mobile ordering, can you talk more about the insights you're learning from the technology, particularly improvement in speed of service? And what percent of guests are utilizing the payment?

Well, we've just implemented, and so it's fairly early as far as a percentage of usage. But I can tell you that it's right on track with the test market we've seen. But clearly, we're very excited about this because we do believe that this represents some operating efficiency potential as well as, most importantly, it really gives us the opportunity to establish a different kind of relationship with our customers and a much more individual relationship. And clearly, we had seen that this has been very successful for a number of brands who are further along in this process. So we're very excited about it, and we're getting tremendous support from our franchise community.

And is the new POS system a precursor to the mobile payment?

No, it is not, not from a mobile payment perspective. So we're already in 5,800 stores active on mobile payment right now, Andrew.

Your next question comes from the line of John Glass with Morgan Stanley.

First, Todd, could you just clarify the guidance with the gains? There are certain gains you're now including in that. How much -- can you dimensionalize how much is included in that $390 million to $400 million?

Yes, so what we have contemplated in the outlook is the $12.1 million gain that was actually recorded here in Q1. So as we've talked about consistently, right, our ongoing restaurant optimization initiative will drive us to continue to look at our restaurant ownership. There will be opportunities to buy restaurants as well as sell restaurants. And including those gains, we still have ourselves within that guidance range, John, if you include the gain or if you exclude the gain. So we're still within the guidance whichever way you wanted to look at it.

But just to be clear, you're not contemplating more than what you've already recorded this quarter. Is that correct?

We would not expect anything of that magnitude, but potentially, some smaller transactions along the way.

Okay. And then just why didn't restaurant level margins lever more, given I thought refranchising might help improve the cosmetics of that? Was it just because the restaurants you sold were roughly equivalent margins to those that are still in the base?

No. The sale of the restaurants -- and a lot of them, remember, started to happen later into the first quarter. But there was some favorable impact to selling the lower-margin restaurants west of the Mississippi. But when you look at where we actually performed, food, paper, we had some nice performance on margin expansion because of those items. But it was really throttled by some of the weather impacts that we had along the way with higher maintenance expenses as we were working to continue to clear parking lots and support the business through the tough winter.

Your next question comes from the line of Jason West with Deutsche Bank.

Just one. Can you remind us where we finished up on the technical assistance fees for the quarter with the system optimization?

Yes. So within the quarter, we ended up with about $6 million of technical assistance fees from system optimization. And that compared to the $7 million that we realized on a full year basis in 2013, all specific to system op.

Got it, okay. And then on the Image Activation, just given how important that is in terms of the growth outlook, can you remind us what you're seeing in terms of the sales lift from those projects and where the average costs are coming in? And if you can talk about how those sales are sustaining as some of these projects are now getting into year 2.

Yes. Certainly, Jason. So as we look at the performance of the restaurants and really hone in on not only the 2012 class, where we continue to see sustainable results in that range of the 10% to 20%, but also look at the 2013 class of restaurants that just came onboard from both a company and a franchise perspective, we are continually seeing the lift of 10% to 20% on the reimaged restaurants. And then on the scrape and rebuild, as we've talked about previously, we are seeing the lift continue to be in that range of 25% to 35%. From an investment perspective, scrape and rebuild, much higher, $1.5 million to $1.9 million. But on the reimages, the range that we've been talking of $450 million to $650 million, we're coming right into that range. And it really depends on what customizable upgrades we're choosing to put in that restaurant to make sure that it's competitive in the trade area that it competes in.

Your next question comes from the line of John Ivankoe with JPMorgan. Amod Gautam - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: It's actually Amod on for John. I guess a couple of questions. So the first is just related to the previous question. It would seem like, if you Image Activate, I think, about 10%-plus of company units, with maybe an average 15% sales lift, that the gap might be a little bit bigger between company and franchise than it was in this quarter. So just if you could help us understand maybe how the first quarter was versus the internal expectations and whether there might have been some other moving pieces in terms of the difference in the comps.

Yes, certainly. I think when we look at the gap between the company and the franchise community on same-restaurant sales growth, it's largely as we expected from the tailwinds that we would be seeing from an Image Activation benefit to the growth. And so a lot of that, as you've got to remember, a lot of the IA restaurants were really done in the late part of last year. So that next big class of 2013 restaurants were done late third quarter, early fourth quarter, and some of those are just going to start to come into our comps, right, because we take them out of comps for the first 12 weeks post opening. Amod Gautam - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay, that's helpful. And then just secondly, with the successful completion of the 425 units sold to the franchisees, I know you touched on it a little bit in the prepared remarks, but could you just help us maybe with what kind of internal considerations there are around -- or conversations there are around the timing and/or magnitude for the refranchising?

Yes. As we mentioned and we've said pretty consistently, that this concept of system optimization is something that is part of our growth pyramid and we're always actively looking at. And one of the things that's important on that perspective as we look at our business, we really feel that The Wendy's Company has to be a driver of continual growth and vibrancy and relevance in the brand, and just like we've led in Image Activation and just like we're leading with the Aloha efforts. And so we feel having some base of company restaurants is important, but as we seek to get the optimal combination of restaurants, as Todd mentioned, we're going to continually be looking at the level of ownership in the purchase and sale of restaurants to get our system to where we think is the most efficient level. So this is something that's under ongoing active consideration.

Your next question comes from the line of Chris O'Cull with KeyBanc.

Emil, the guidance suggests a pretty healthy comp acceleration in the remaining quarters as you lap some, obviously, some successful products from last year. Can you give us a little color as to what gives you confidence that the comp will accelerate through the course of the year?

Sure. Well, first of all, one of the things, as Todd mentioned, as we look at even the first quarter, we saw it definitely was the tale of 2 halves here. And so we had very nice momentum once we got into some spring weather, and that momentum has continued into the second quarter, which certainly gives us encouragement. And then also, as we look at the marketing calendar, which essentially, we know what that looks like for the remainder of the year, and we have -- all of these items have been through a certain level of in-market testing and experience. And so based upon that, we feel confident in the guidance that we've provided for sales. And obviously, we knew that we would have to roll over the Pretzel Bacon Cheeseburger and Bacon Portabella Melt on Brioche, and we've comprehended that in terms of how we're thinking about our business. And so we feel very confident in the patterns that we're seeing.

Do you feel like the growth will come from a balance of transactions and check?

We do. And that's one of the nice things we're seeing, is we're seeing some nice growth in customer counts as well as check. And we feel that this dual-layer strategy of having our higher-end messages as well as some other messages against our Right Price Right Size Menu is providing a nice combination. But also, our limited-time-only products typically carry with them a higher transaction value. In that way, we're able to elevate our average check but do that without, specifically, necessarily, a price increase. And we feel that, that's the most positive way to approach the consumer.

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Farmer with Wells Fargo.

Just somewhat of a follow-up to that last question. I am curious in the past how you guys have -- I guess, when you've had some promotional and marketing strategies that have been extremely successful, how do you plan to lap that? What is the game plan there? How can you make that essentially back-to-back years of pretty successful top line growth?

Well, we believe, as we look at message, media and creative, that we have to approach all of those. And particularly, today, when you have digital marketing efforts and social marketing efforts and traditional broadcast, we're utilizing all of those, and I remain very close to all of those things. And I will tell you that we have some outstanding things planned for the remainder of this year. In fact, I've already seen a marketing calendar for what 2015 might look like, and so we're trying to stay well ahead of the game. And when you get in a system where you're producing good comp restaurant sales growth, that you have to plan ahead and you have to make sure that you do have a pipeline of ideas that can comp other ideas that have been strong, and that's just part of the nature of things. But I think it's also one of the things when we talk about the latent brand equities that Wendy's has. One of the wonderful things that's happening today is the consumers are very, very engaged in food, and you're seeing this in the grocery business, you're seeing this in the restaurant business. And we have very strong brand equities, latent equities in food, and I think that, that gives us a distinct advantage to introduce high-quality, high-end items that people have a natural gravitation toward that others may not be able to do that as successfully.

All right, that's helpful. And just one follow-up in sort of a similar ballpark. So your peers have clearly seen the success you've had with some of these premium sandwiches and, at least to some extent, have begun to follow suit. So in the past, and this might be going back to the early 2000s, mid 2000s, but when your peers have tried to replicate some of your successful products, what, if any, impact have you seen on your business when they do follow suit pretty closely?

Yes. Well, we appreciate the compliment that's being paid to us by them. And look, we expect competitors to continue to take up their game, and we're doing the exact same thing. And so as you look at the kind of products that we launched, Pretzel Bacon Cheeseburger, Pretzel Pub Chicken, Portabella Melt on Brioche, and you look at the 2 salads we just launched, an Asian Cashew Chicken Salad and the BBQ Ranch Chicken Salad, these are outstanding products that you can -- to find that comparable quality, you've got to go to one of the quick casual restaurants to get that. And again, we've got to remember, people first purchase a brand and then they purchase a product. And our brand has tremendous product equity, and this is one of the beautiful things Dave Thomas gave us, that he has the heritage of quality and the heritage of innovation, and I think that, that gives us a distinct advantage. And as long as we can continue to deliver these outstanding products, I think we can build on that. I also mentioned that one of the things we're going to do is we are going to evolve our core menu as well because we want to not only make the investment in things that are here on a limited-time offer, but we want to make sure that people can come in every day and get items that they are very, very excited about. And that's why these 2 new salads, for example, are permanent menu items.

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Gallo with CL King. Michael W. Gallo - CL King & Associates, Inc., Research Division: A couple of questions. Emil, can you update us on what you saw in value transactions in the quarter, whether you'd be able to make some progress in stabilizing that? And then also, you mentioned some higher spending on international and G&A in the quarter. I was wondering if you can give us some further detail on what your plans are, what the spending was around it and what some of the longer-term potential is as international becomes a bigger focus down the road.

Sure. Michael, on value, we continued to see progress throughout the quarter. I'll tell you that I still feel that we're not ultimately where we need to be, but the nice thing is that the line continues to point in the right direction. And our value transactions, if you look at the past 3 quarters, are up significantly, along with the fact that we're building share in the high end of the business. So we've got that rhythm going in the right direction, and we just want to continue that. So I'm pleased with what I'm seeing, but I'm never going to be satisfied about it. So on the international, as we mentioned previously, Michael, we had engaged a nationally known and prominent consulting firm that has extensive experience in the restaurant business as well as extensive experience internationally to help us sort through our growth strategy internationally. And we believe that they've given us some very important insights on that. And we do feel that the international business can be an important contributor to our growth in earnings over time, but we also feel that, that's several years down the road. And that's why we continue to emphasize the important opportunity that we have in North America, and we feel that we can definitely add incremental new restaurants in terms of growing our access to the brand, as well as we've set a very bold goal that we think is achievable in getting to these $2 million average volumes. So the point is that we have great confidence in our ability to grow North American business, but we also believe that several years out, we'll also start to see incremental contribution from international.

Your next question comes from the line of Jeffrey Bernstein with Barclays.

A couple of questions. Just first on the margin outlook, at least for this year. First quarter obviously hurt by weather. It looks like the margins were up 30 basis points or so. And even with your reduction in your guidance for this year, it's still calling for 100 to 150 basis points, and that's despite what now seems like elevated beef. So I'm just wondering, your confidence and your -- what you're seeing in terms of margin for the rest of the year that gives you the confidence that we should see that meaningful acceleration of these particular line items that we're underestimating. Or perhaps, what percentage of it is driven by just the refranchising of some pretty weak units? How should we think about that?

I guess there's a couple of elements, Jeff. So as the transactions in the business picked up during the tale of 2 halves in the first quarter, we did see margin acceleration, which gives us the confidence as we go into the rest of the year. Yes, the commodities impact is a little more pronounced than we had anticipated. Originally, we guided to flat for full year, with higher beef offset by lower chicken. Now we're now thinking that the higher beef will probably have the commodities impact to be about 50 basis points on a full year basis. So that's what we really built into this long-term -- or the guidance for the rest of this year, which took us from that 16.8% to 17% down to that 16.3% to 16.8%. But as we look at the rest of the year, right, with now system optimization behind us, we've always talked about 50 basis points of tailwind that we're going to see from that. We'll see that into the back half. As the business continues to accelerate and grows closer to our long-term guidance of the 3% number plus, we'll see a lot of leverage that comes through the restaurant that will continue to drive margin expansion for us. And then just a lot of work on ongoing productivity initiatives and cost-saving initiatives, which we're going to start to see the benefit of all of those things come through over the last 3 quarters of the year. So we feel very good that despite a little bit of headwind on the commodity front and the start that we had because of weather, primarily in January and February, that we're still on track for that guidance range that we just provided.

Got it. And then just on the G&A, I mean, the savings of $30 million, just wondering what you'd bucket as the biggest driver of that and whether there's future opportunity on that front or maybe how much of that we should assume in the current 2014. Like what's your dollar assumption for full year G&A for '14?

Yes, well, we gave very specific guidance on G&A. The $275 million kind of is our point estimate on total G&A, so I think we're probably as clear as we've ever been on that front, Jeff. I mean, the big buckets, when you look at the savings, a lot of it was people-generated. So we always talked about the $20 million of savings that come from field G&A, largely driven by people, and a lot of those people had transferred away from the company over to the franchise community. And then another $10 million of savings that we realized within the Dublin Restaurant Service Center, and a big chunk of that was people-generated savings too. And we saw some of those come through in the first quarter. So when you think about the first quarter, yes, we did have higher equity incentive comp. There were some other what I would characterize as onetime discretionary G&A investments, but that was offset by about $3 million of savings that we saw directly attributable to the system optimization initiative within the quarter. And we had gone and starting to get some of those savings in '13. We're going to see some more in the rest of '14, really a year to go. And then a little bit of the savings will still trickle in, in the first quarter of 2015.

Got it. And then just lastly, should we assume that EBITDA growth skews more to the fourth quarter rather than the second and third? Just one, the beef, but two, the lack of the incentive fees to franchisees. Is it more flattish in the second and third quarter, really accelerating in the fourth? Is that how directionally...

That would be directionally correct, yes, Jeff. So you'll see that, especially as we lap up against some of the higher commodity costs that we talked about, a little more pronounced in Q2 and Q3. And then you really start to pick up the impact of the continued work that we're doing around Image Activating our restaurants, and that will start to take hold in the later part of the year.

Your next question comes from the line of Sara Senatore with Sanford C. Bernstein.

This is Jonathan for Sara. I just wanted to come back to the long-term outlook for high single-digit to low double-digit adjusted EBITDA growth. You mentioned that sort of baked into that algorithm is at least 3% comps beginning in 2015. I guess, can you provide a little more color on the composition of that algorithm in terms of unit growth, margin expansion?

Yes. I think, as you think about unit growth, we're probably still in a position where we're not in a net positive unit growth in 2015. Clearly, as we start to get into the longer-term growth algorithm, as we get into 2016, 2017, you will see net new unit growth. Emil's very clear about that as we work on our plot moving forward. And I would expect, as we continue to drive initiatives, whether they're productivity, whether they're cost savings, but importantly, as we continue to drive leverage across our restaurants, driving same-restaurant sales comps up north of 3%, both from our core initiatives, leveraging technology as an enabler to drive margins going forward, and then ultimately with IA acceleration kicking in, all of those things will provide a lot of leverage across the P&L, where we'll continue to see some margin enhancement as you get out into 2015, 2016, 2017.

Got it. And just a quick follow-up on commodities for 2014. You had mentioned the beef prices are providing some pressure. Are there any commodities that are providing offsets or things that you can do in terms of the purchasing co-op to find some additional savings?

Well, the purchasing co-op continues to work on sourcing strategies to figure out how we mitigate the inflation pressure that we see out there. And then internally, we'll continue to look at what other initiatives that we need to do across the whole P&L to manage margin. But the big offset to the beef increases is we still see some deflationary pressure year-on-year in chicken, a little bit on pork. But that's starting to increase a little bit, but that's been contemplated in our outlook. So that's kind of that mix. And as we look at our composition of our LTOs and our product offerings during the course of the year, we have the ability to not just play on the beef side of the equation. People tend to forget that, of our total commodity mix, only about 20% of it is beef. So we have a lot of options across our portfolio to really manage mix, not only from a top line perspective but from a bottom line perspective too.

Your next question comes from the line of Will Slabaugh with Stephens.

So I wanted to ask you about revenue in the quarter, which came in nicely ahead of where we were modeling. So my question is if that was the case with your own internal model as well and maybe if that was more or less affected by when you sold the units in the quarter. Or is it the case that maybe some of the units that you're keeping for the company side did have materially higher AUVs that can help that number going forward?

I think you've got a little bit of both going on in there, Will. I think when you think about where average AUVs are, they were a little bit lower in the West versus where we are in the rest of the country. That said, revenue largely came in on our expectation. So we had really timed the restaurant sales to happen into February, into March, and that's what ended up happening at the end of the day.

Great. And I don't know if you have this in front of you or not, but can you update us on the AUVs of your company stores versus the franchised stores in the system?

Company versus franchise, I think we ended the year at 15-30 [ph] kind of system average AUV. I don't know, Emil, do you have off the top of your head the mix? The company would have crept up, approaching...

Let us get back to you with the specifics on that, Will, just so we're dead accurate on that.

Great, no problem. And just one quick follow-up if I could. When I'm looking at D&A, I think you talked previously about that coming down around 10% or so for the full year. Does that still sound like a reasonable estimate? Does it maybe come in below that? It looks like that trajectory dropped a little more than I expected this quarter, so just sort of D&A thoughts for the year.

Yes, no, I think that's still a good assumption, Will, as you go forward. And you've got to remember that, especially when you look at some of the accelerated depreciation, we got on to the Image Activation journey earlier to set ourselves up for '14 as we got a lot of that D&A accelerated into 2013 last year, which gave us the confidence that our reimages will happen more consistently across the year rather than back-loaded, like they were the year ago. So that will distort the comps between 2013 and 2014. You'll actually start to see some D&A depreciation drop off as we've sold the restaurants as part of the system optimization initiative as well.

Your final question comes from the line of David Palmer with RBC.

Just to follow-up on that topic of the AUV growth versus same-store sales growth, that AUV growth being higher lately than same-store sales growth, it does seem like that would have something to do with the accounting treatment around Image Activation. And I wonder if, as these Image Activation stores get added back to the comp base, if that might help you 3 months later. In other words, the AUV gap to same-store sales might be somewhat of the secret sauce that gives you confidence that same-store sales can remain high a quarter or 2 from now. Am I onto something there or am I...

No, you're thinking about it right, Dave. I think there's a couple of pieces, and we'll get the specifics, as Emil mentioned, on the deltas and the trends on AUVs between company and franchise. But as you think about same-restaurant sales composition, knowing that we did a lot of Image Activation restaurants last year into the fourth quarter, the full impact of those restaurants would not have been reflected yet in the same-restaurant sales composition throughout the entire first quarter because they weren't in the comp base. They were in the absolute but not in the comp base. So as we start to get past that 12-week post-opening cycle, they will roll into comps. So I think you're thinking about it exactly right. We'll get some benefit of some of that fourth quarter IA work in the second and the third quarter.

As an aside, I was wondering if you could comment just on the different versions of value being put out there. You see the 2 sandwiches for $5 being done by Burger King. There's been some shifts away from the definition of value at $1. I mean, what is your overall statement about just the value push by competitors out there? And do you think that you're getting your fair share of the value users?

Sure. Well, David, we definitely are seeing shifts in how particularly the millennials think about value and how they use different value menus out there. And I would say -- and I'm not willing to characterize it specifically, but I think we have a very good sense of what's working and what's not working out there. And we have the capacity, through Crest, Dave, and other things to track that with a fair degree of intimacy. As I mentioned earlier in a response to a question, what we have seen is we have changed from the value bucket being a leaky bucket 4 quarters ago to a steady progress on that virtually every single quarter. And so we feel, through our Right Price Right Size Menu, we've been heading in the right direction. But I continue to see upside potential there as we continue to refine this model of our high-end messaging as well as our low-end messaging out there. But value is something that is definitely a bit of an evolving thing in the marketplace, I think, in a lot of ways because of how millennials are a bit shifting their approach.

There are no further questions at this time.

Okay. Thank you.

Thanks, everybody. I know we have some follow-up calls, so we'll be looking forward to some additional conversations throughout the day. Thanks, everyone.

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