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Operator
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Weave Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Our host for today’s call is Mark McReynolds, Head of Investor Relations. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. McReynolds. You may begin.
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Mark McReynolds
Management
Thank you, Morgan. Good afternoon, and thanks for joining us for our second quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining the call today are Brett White, CEO; and Alan Taylor, CFO. Brett will open the call with an overview of Weave’s performance, and Alan will discuss our financial results in more detail. After the prepared remarks, we’ll take questions. Today’s discussion contains forward-looking statements that represent our beliefs or expectations about future events. All forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in the earnings release and in these filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q, for additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. We’ll also discuss financial measures that do not conform with generally accepted accounting principles. For the sake of clarity, unless otherwise noted, all numbers we talk about today will be on a non-GAAP basis. Information may be calculated differently than similar non-GAAP data presented by other companies. A reconciliation between these GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is included in our earnings press release, which can be found on our Investor Relations website at investors.getweave.com. And with that, I’ll turn the call over to Brett.
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Brett White
Management
Thank you, Mark. And thank you all for joining us today. Q2 was another strong quarter of continuing momentum for Weave, and I’m very pleased with our team’s continued strong execution. Before providing a detailed review of our Q2 performance, I wanted to give a brief overview of our platform for listeners who are newer to the Weave story. We provide small- and medium-sized healthcare businesses with a single, vertically tailored customer experience and payment software platform, helping them unify, modernize and personalize every interaction with their patients. Our customers are experts in their field of care. We’ve helped them run their businesses more effectively by unifying a patchwork of point solutions into a single platform that helps them attract, engage and retain their patients. Our subscription platform includes texting, reminders, reviews, online scheduling, digital forms, e-mail marketing, insurance verification, physical and Softphones, and more. Weave’s payments platform enables offices to offer flexible payment options, including text, e-mail, online bill pay, terminals, and mobile tap-to-pay. SMBs make up the vast majority of businesses in the U.S. We have spent almost 15 years building a platform specific to the needs of SMB healthcare practitioners. We understand the unique challenges they face and have tailored our platform to address these challenges. SMB Healthcare businesses are well capitalized, well managed, and have proven able to withstand the economic uncertainty of the last few years. For example, dental practices are our largest and most tenured vertical and have among the lowest business failure rates of SMB. SMBs typically do not have dedicated technology staff, so they need software solutions that are easy to implement and manage. They also want to manage as few technology platforms as possible. When SMBs land on a solution that improves their businesses, they tend to stick with it, which…
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Alan Taylor
Management
Thanks, Brett. And good afternoon, everyone. As mentioned, we delivered a strong performance in the second quarter on both the top line and the bottom line. We delivered second-quarter revenue of $41.7 million, reflecting a 19.3% growth year-over-year. This represents a $1.7 million or 4% over the midpoint of the range we provided last quarter. Our net revenue retention rate was 96% in Q2. As we’ve discussed in previous quarters, our NRR is negatively impacted by the ongoing effect of the discontinuation of our partnership with our former third-party forms provider. We launched our internally developed forms product and have seen positive adoption by our customers. Excluding the impact of the third-party forms provider, NRR remains at 100%. Gross revenue retention rate was 92% in Q2. It remains within a very tight band of historical performance among the best-in-class for SMB retention, and logo retention has been consistent for the last 12 quarters. Moving on to operating results. As a reminder, I’ll be referring to non-GAAP results unless otherwise stated. Our Q2 results showed significant improvement across the board. Gross margin was 67.9%. This represents a 680 basis point increase year-over-year and a 30 basis point increase sequentially. Operating expenses were $32.2 million, an $800,000 increase from last year compared to a $6.7 million increase in revenue for the same period. We had a sequential increase in operating expenses of $1.1 million, with a large portion of that increase flowing through G&A. The sequential increase in G&A was primarily related to seasonal professional fees associated with our proxy statement and audit, and increased headcount-related expenses. Our operating loss was $4 million, an improvement of $6.2 million or 61% compared to last year and at the high end of the guidance that we gave in May. The corresponding operating loss margin…
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Operator
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Your first question comes from Alex Sklar with Raymond James. Your line is open.
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Alex Sklar
Analyst
Great, thank you. Brett, I’ve got a two-part question on the sales team to start off here. So first, on the 19% growth that you mentioned, is that a direct quota-carrying rep figure or is that across all the sales and marketing positions? And then the second part, I just wanted to ask you, you’ve talked about higher ASPs you’re seeing with new customers. I know you flagged that last customer last quarter as well. Has anything changed in terms of what you’re including in that premier offering that’s driving the higher ASP growth? Thanks.
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Brett White
Management
Sure. Thanks for the question, Alex. So the 19% increase is straight quota-carrying sales reps. So, no overhead, no sales ops, anything like that, and no management. And the higher ASPs, so we’ve been adding quite a bit of product into the bundles, and really that’s enabled us to sell more of the higher-end bundles on a kind of an initial sale basis. So, that’s really what’s driving the ASP.
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Alex Sklar
Analyst
Okay, great. Thanks for that. And then, Alan, just one on the implied kind of fourth-quarter growth outlook. It looks like it’s kind of flattish with the third quarter. And I just wanted to ask if there’s anything onetime either may be tied about that last quarter of forms transition or seasonal that might be driving that? Or is that just kind of normal conservatism? Thanks.
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Alan Taylor
Management
Yes, Alex thanks. We just continue to provide guidance that we feel high conviction around. And that’s – so it’s kind of a normal course.
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Alex Sklar
Analyst
Alright, great. Thank you both for the color.
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Alan Taylor
Management
Thank you.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Mark Schappel of Loop Capital Markets. Your line is open.
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Mark Schappel
Analyst
Hi, thank you for taking my questions. Nice job on the quarter. Brett, starting with the boomerang customers, I was wondering if you could just talk a little bit more about maybe if there’s one, two, or three drivers in particular that are kind of the result of customers going back to your platform?
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Brett White
Management
Sure. So, if we start at why do they leave, they often get a pitch from a competitor, whether it be another communications and engagement solution provider or even their practice management software provider that says oh well, we could do what Weave does for a lot less money. That sounds attractive. They go and onboard onto that platform and just find it’s functionally deficient. It doesn’t actually deliver the value that they need. And so then they come straight back. So, that’s kind of the life cycle there.
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Mark Schappel
Analyst
I appreciate that. And then over the last year or so, the company has done a lot of work on the product development front with respect to making our platform more attractive for multi locations. And I was wondering if the new products that you talked about, the AI-powered e-mail system, and the Softphones, were part of that initiative? Or were those initiatives pretty much for all customers?
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Brett White
Management
So you are right. Thanks for recognizing all the work we’ve done on multi. That’s been a really big part of our road map. And you’re going to see, over the second half of the year, some pretty significant product releases that really enables our core products to work effectively across multi-location offices, multi-location organization. So, I kind of want to say the best is yet to come on the multiproduct. But in fact, it’s already started ramping up. This quarter was our best quarter for landing multi-location deals, I think ever, and it was up pretty meaningfully from Q1. So, even the releases that we’ve done so far on the multi-side are starting to get traction, but we’ve got a lot more to come there. That’s very, very exciting. The product and engineering organization is really firing on all cylinders and is very, very focused on delivering what the customers want, both on a single location on a multi-location. And the answer to the other part of your question, the AI-enabled tools, the Softphones, that’s available for everyone. It’s included in the bundles, and that’s available for a single and multi-location.
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Mark Schappel
Analyst
Great thanks. That’s all from me.
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Operator
Your next question comes from Tyler Radke with Citigroup. Your line is open.
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Kylie Towbin
Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open.
Hi, this is Kylie Towbin on for Tyler. Thanks for taking the questions and congrats on the quarter. I wanted to ask a little bit about the guidance raise. You raised by a bit more than you beat. Was this driven by uptake in new offerings? You talked about selling higher-end bundles or better pipeline visibility in the second half. Thanks.
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Brett White
Management
Yes, thanks Kylie. It is driven by the better uptake, it’s driven by what we see in our bookings rate, it’s driven by what we see coming into the rest of the year with respect to September is the biggest events month of the year for us. All of those things play into our optimism regarding the balance of the year.
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Kylie Towbin
Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open.
Got it. Thank you. And maybe one more on the boomerang customers. Are they growing their contracts when they return? Or are those 200 customers that you’ve seen in 1H? How has those ASPs trended when you return? Thanks.
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Brett White
Management
Honestly, I can’t answer that question. I don’t actually know. We’re just thrilled when they come back, but I can’t answer that. I don’t know the answer.
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Kylie Towbin
Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open.
Thank you.
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Operator
Your next question comes from Michael Funk with Bank of America. Your line is open.
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Matt Bullock
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open.
Hi this is Matt Bullock on for Mike Funk. Thanks for taking the questions. I was hoping you might be able to break down some of the main contributors by vertical to the growth acceleration in the past two quarters and then how we might expect that to trend over the next 12 to 18 months. Thanks.
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Brett White
Management
Sure. So our core business, sales, and installed base is still distributed along say, our three top verticals. What we call the dental, optometry, vet. Dental is by far the largest and that’s been pretty consistent with our sales and bookings. One area where we’re starting to see an uptick is specialty medical. So I mentioned three of them in my prepared remarks, but one of the areas that we’re increasing our go-to-market activities. We’ve got on our development road map, additional integrations outside of those three verticals. So, I think that over time, over the next four to – or say, two to four quarters, we’ll start seeing greater bookings in specialty medical. And certainly, we’re seeing interest inbound organic interest from those additional verticals. There’s like 25 additional verticals in specialty medical. And actually, the TAM is bigger than our current DOVTAM. So long answer. To this quarter, it was pretty consistent with our installed base, but I expect that to pick up in specialty medical over the next two to four quarters.
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Matt Bullock
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open.
Excellent, really helpful. And then just one quick follow-up. It’s been great to see the progress on gross margin. Can you break down some of the puts and takes and what we can expect longer term in terms of mature gross margin?
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Brett White
Management
Yes. Thanks, Matt. So, as we get into the direct costs of delivery for our customers, we’ve got an engineering team that has a very concentrated focus on what it costs to deliver as well as the efficiency across our communication and with charges in the Google Cloud, where we host most of our operations. And then we also have a people team who are just extraordinary in responding to our customers, but also working to be as efficient as they can. So, those are the things that are driving these efficiencies. We will continue to see them, not necessarily at the rate year-over-year that we’ve seen in this last year. But on a long-term basis, we think that getting into the 75% margin range is very doable over the long term.
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Matt Bullock
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open.
Really helpful.
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Alan Taylor
Management
And I’ll add. Payments is still a relatively small part of our business. It’s been growing. It’s growing much faster than our software business. And payments is very – since we look at net, it’s very, very high margin. So as that business grows, it will have an outsized impact on our gross margins.
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Matt Bullock
Analyst · Bank of America. Your line is open.
Excellent, thanks.
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Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from Jacob Staffel with Goldman Sachs. Your line open.
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Jacob Staffel
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line open.
Thanks for taking the question. A good quarter and good to see the stock performance since the last quarter. One thing I wanted to ask on is when it comes to the dynamic between new and existing customers, can you talk about how that’s trending? Are you seeing more new customers land? Are you seeing existing customers expand more? Where are the puts and takes in that dynamic?
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Brett White
Management
Sure. So, I think you’re really talking about the revenue contribution of the existing...
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Jacob Staffel
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line open.
Correct.
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Brett White
Management
Yes. So new customers, we had a strong new customer quarter definitely a highlight for the quarter. And that is the primary contributor to revenue growth. Well, I’ll say, a primary contributor to subscription revenue growth. We land pretty heavy, in other words, we sell – you can see in the growth of the ASP we sell a large portion of our product offering at the initial sale, which is great, but it also limits our ability to upsell and grow NRR. But the majority of the increase in software growth comes from new customers. From the installed base, and the existing customers, most of that growth comes from payments. And so as they get onboarded to the platform, they adopt payments and that grows. And then also as their business grows, we share that success on growth from existing customers. So, those would be the two big pieces.
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Jacob Staffel
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line open.
Awesome. Thank you so much. That was really helpful color. And then another question would be kind of piggybacking up on what you said around how there’s maybe a limited ability to upsell and grow NRR. Does the introduction of maybe these new AI-centric products give that potential to increase selling prices? And if so, when do you think we’ll see that hit the top line?
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Brett White
Management
Yes. So, definitely, we’re going through our 2024 planning right now. And one of our major initiatives is product adoption. And so we want to be sure that we’re delivering to our customers products that they really value, and we have a constant kind of drumbeat of those products rolling out over the next, say, six quarters. So, that’s a major focus of ours. Then the next piece of that equation is to figure out how to attach value to it in the pricing models, whether it be in bundles or à la cartes or upgrades, and we’ll work through that. But the really important piece is to make sure that we’ve got a good, constant, steady stream of products that our customers value, and then we can figure out the right monetization methodology over time. But for now, the AI products that we’ve delivered, the Softphones, those are included in the bundles, and that may change. But really, we’re just focused on delivering a ton of value.
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Jacob Staffel
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line open.
Awesome. Thank you so much guys. Great quarter again.
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Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
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Hannah Rudoff
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Hi guys. This is Hannah Rudoff on for Brent today. Thanks for taking my questions. Just first off, I know you said payments is a small part of the business, but could you talk about where you are in terms of penetration of payments into the base? And how quickly you think customers could adopt online bill pay and tap to pay.
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Brett White
Management
Yes. So I can – about all I can give you there is, we know payments revenue is less than 10% because we don’t report it separately. I’ll tell you that the attaches is more than that, but we still have a lot of room to go in attaching payments to our installed customer base.
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Hannah Rudoff
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Okay makes sense. And then…
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Brett White
Management
I would say we’re significantly underpenetrated in our installed base.
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Hannah Rudoff
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
All right, makes sense. And then did Softphones adoption have any impact on the gross margin uptick in the quarter?
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Brett White
Management
Not really. Not at this point. This is a – the Softphones adoption is a mean factor for many of our customers where they just do not have to take any hardware, and they can operate as though they are working out of the office from wherever they are.
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Hannah Rudoff
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Okay, makes sense. And then the last question for me. Just how is rep productivity trending over the entire sales force?
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Brett White
Management
It’s continuing to improve. We didn’t want to start adding reps until we’ve got that engine running really efficiently. And I think we’re there now. We’re adding reps now, and we plan to add more reps throughout the end of the year. Efficiency is definitely improving. The marketing engine is doing really well. We’re adding more spend to our marketing channels that are proving to be more effective, and that just kind of has a knock-on effect to producing higher-value leads, which improved close rates, which makes sales reps more effective. And when sales reps get more effective, they tend to stick around longer, and it’s kind of a wonderful phenomenon that happens.
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Hannah Rudoff
Analyst · Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
Great, thank you very much.
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Operator
Operator
At this time, there are no further questions. That does conclude today’s Weave’s earnings release. Thank you, everyone, for attending, and have a wonderful rest of your day.