Ron Mittelstaedt
Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.
Well, Derek, very good question. I mean, yes, in a way it does. I mean, look, some municipalities, as you’ve mentioned two large ones or three large ones there, Los Angeles and New York City certainly. Los Angeles being the first one, for varying recycling and diversion requirements and legislation in those municipalities have moved to or moving to a franchise model. We were a participant in the Los Angeles process. We did not have collection or transfer assets in Southern California, but we had a landfill asset. And what that process showed us is those with assets, very difficult to replicate assets, transfer stations, recycle it, hauling companies. At the end of the day they won the franchises. We did not have those assets and we didn’t win a franchise in Los Angeles. Those were won by Waste Management and Republic and five very strong independents, all have great assets. Now, we did get -- we are going to get some substantial disposal volumes through the franchises into our Southern California Chiquita Canyon Landfill. So, as we look at New York, who is looking at a similar process, they haven’t decided that, the former Progressive and now us, comfortably has the best assets in two of the five boroughs in New York City, between transfer stations and collection operations. So, we have made a decision on New York for a couple of reasons. One is that we’ve seen a change in performance from low single-digit EBITDA margins when we closed the transaction to high double-digit EBITDA margin. To be honest, almost a 300% improvement in operating performance in seven months, so that was one reason and that we found that the market wasn’t broken the way we assumed it was. And then, the second thing is what you’ve pointed out. I mean the potential of the franchising of the business. What we learned in the LA process is may or may not play out in New York. But if it does, we think we are positioned in some of the boroughs certainly better than anyone else at this point, so. And I’m not exactly sure where you’re speaking about in Illinois. It depends where that would be. But, obviously, if it’s anywhere north or west of the city, we now have the number one position there as well. And many of the western and northern markets in Illinois are already exclusive in some nature or another. But, so, that would be the answer on those, Derek.