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Virtus Investment Partners, Inc. (VRTS)

Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Wed, Jan 25, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Michelle, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Virtus Investment Partners Quarterly Conference Call. The slide presentation for this call is available in the Investor Relations section of the Virtus Web site at www.virtus.com. This call is being recorded, and will be available for replay on the Virtus Web site. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period, and instructions will follow at that time. I will now turn the conference to your host, Jeanne Hess.

Jeanne Hess

Management

Thank you and good morning, everyone. On behalf of Virtus Investment Partners, I would like to welcome you to the discussion of our operating and financial results for the fourth quarter of 2016. Before we begin, I direct your attention to the important disclosures on Page 2 of the slide presentation that accompanies this webcast. Certain matters discussed on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are not statements of facts or guarantees of future performance, and are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in the statements. These statements may be identified by such words as expect, anticipate, believe, outlook, may, and similar terms. For a discussion of these risks and uncertainties, please see the Risk Factors in Management Discussion and Analysis sections of our periodic reports that are filed with the SEC, as well as our other recent filings, which are available in the Investor Relations section of our Web site, virtus.com. We do not undertake any obligation to update forward-looking statements. In addition to results presented on a GAAP basis, Virtus uses certain non-GAAP measures to evaluate its financial results. Our non-GAAP financial measures are not substitutes for GAAP financial results and should be read in conjunction with GAAP results. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the applicable GAAP measures are included in our earnings press release, which is available on our Web site. Now, I would like to turn the call over to our President and CEO, George Aylward. George?

George Aylward

Management

Thank you, Jeanne, and good morning, everyone. I will start today by providing an overview of the quarter, including assets and flows before turning it over to Mike for more detail on the financial results. I will then provide a brief update on our pending acquisition of RidgeWorth Investments before taking your questions. Now let me begin with assets under management and flows. Assets under management were 45.4 billion at December 31, which represented a 3% decline from September 30 due to market depreciation and modest net outflows. Total sales were 2.6 billion compared with 3.1 billion in the prior quarter, which included certain items that we noted on our last call. Mutual fund sales were 1.6 billion compared with 1.9 billion in the third quarter. As we mentioned on our last call, the third quarter included 0.3 billion of model-related inflows in the Emerging Markets Opportunities Fund. Excluding the model-related inflows, mutual fund sales increased modestly fourth quarter. Mutual fund net outflows were 0.7 billion compared with 0.3 billion in the prior quarter due primarily to the lower model-related sales in the Emerging Markets Fund. Relative investment performance continued to be very strong across our funds with 19 of our rated funds representing 84% of our rated fund AUM having four and five stars as of December 31. With respect to our other products, we continue to generate positive flows in SMAs, ETFs and Institutional. SMAs were solid in the quarter at 0.5 billion, as Kayne’s equity strategies continue to gather assets. SMA assets ended the quarter at 8.5 billion representing a 25% increase from December 31, 2015. We believe that this product category can have increased opportunities given some of the recent trends in the distribution landscape. Sales of ETFs increased sequentially to 201 million from 67 million…

Michael Angerthal

Management

Thank you, George. Good morning, everyone. Starting on Slide 7, assets under management, we ended the quarter with assets of 45.4 billion, which represents a decrease of 1.1 billion or 3% from the prior quarter. The sequential decrease in AUM is primarily attributable to market depreciation of 0.6 billion and net outflows of 0.4 billion. The 2 billion year-over-year decrease in AUM is primarily attributable to 4.7 billion of net outflows and 0.5 billion of dividend distributions, which were partially offset by 3.2 billion of market appreciation. Total AUM at quarter end was diversified with 38% in domestic equity, 19% in international equity, 34% in fixed income, and 9% in alternatives and other. By product, open-end fund assets were 52% of total AUM, separately managed accounts were 19%, closed-end funds were 15%, institutional 13%, and ETFs 1%. Turning to Slide 8, asset flows; total sales were 2.6 billion, a sequential quarter decrease of 0.5 billion or 15% primarily due to lower sales in institutional. Total sales also decreased from the prior year quarter by 17% or 0.6 billion due as lower sales in mutual funds offset higher sales in institutional, SMAs and ETFs. Gross sales in open-end mutual funds were 1.6 billion, a decrease of 0.2 billion from the third quarter, primarily due to 0.3 billion of lower model-related sales in the Emerging Markets Fund. Fourth quarter total net outflows were negative 0.4 billion as net outflows from mutual funds more than offset combined net inflows from all other products of 0.4 billion. Institutional, SMAs and ETFs have generated positive flows of 3.9 million for the full year and have grown by 50% over the prior year. Mutual fund flows by asset class were as follows. Fixed income strategies had net outflows of 0.1 billion compared to breakeven flows in…

George Aylward

Management

Thanks, Mike. Since we announced the agreement to acquire RidgeWorth Investments in mid-December, we have made progress on the various work streams related to completing the transaction and integrating the businesses. First, we have been communicating the details of the potential transaction with our distribution partners and RidgeWorth has been focused on client outreach. Second, we have begun the process of submitting the appropriate filings to affect the combination of the fund business as mutual fund shareholders will be asked to approve the reorganization of the RidgeWorth funds into the Virtus funds. Third, we continue to work on our integration plans while accomplishing the tasks that can be completed prior to close. Lastly, as Mike mentioned, we have been taking the necessary steps to put our permanent financing in place before the close of the transaction and as we indicated on our call in December, we will balance operating flexibility, capital efficiency in delivering meaningful accretion to our common shareholders. In terms of the RidgeWorth business, total assets ended the quarter at 40.2 billion, an increase of 0.1 billion from September 30. Their investment performance remains strong with 83% of their rated mutual fund AUM having four or five stars at December 31. We remain excited about this transaction as it will further diversify our investment strategies in clients, enhance and expand our distribution resources, increase profitability and scale and expand growth opportunities. With that, we will now take your questions. Michelle, can you open up the lines please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Michael Carrier with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Michael Carrier

Analyst

Hi. Thanks, guys. First question just on I guess cash and capital. Like 2016 was an active year both on buybacks and the RidgeWorth deal announcement. Just wanted to get a sense when you think about 2017 and going forward, you mentioned the working capital target as a percentage of spend and you’re below that. But it seems like the seed might be a little on the higher end. And so when I think about going forward in terms of cash generation and where the focus will be in terms of deployment, just wanted to get a sense of where the priorities are given where things stand post the buybacks and the deal?

George Aylward

Management

Yes, let me give me a couple of thoughts and Mike can add in. So our focus is going to be on putting together the permanent financing for the RidgeWorth transaction and obviously as a result of that, our profile will change significantly, right. We’ve traditionally not had debt on our balance sheet. And as we’ve indicated we have fully committed financing as it relates to the transaction and ultimately we will be putting together the balance of how we want to put that all together. As we sort of look at that, we have already sort of in terms of seed capital, we’ve previously said our range had been 125 to 175, we’re actually at the high end of that right now. But as we indicated previously, we always think about that in relation to the other uses of capital and obviously we’re very excited about the RidgeWorth transaction, so we’ll be looking to – as I indicated as we put together the permanent financing using existing balance sheet resources, the debt that’s available to us and flexibility around equity, we’ll be putting all of that together to come up with the right mix. Mike, do you want to --

Michael Angerthal

Management

Yes, I think George touched on the key points. I think we’re obviously going to ensure after closing the transaction that we maintain adequate liquidity and have the ability to invest in the business. And as we indicated I think when we got on the phone in December, the pro forma balance sheet will have appropriate levels of cash and have a credit facility in place to provide adequate liquidity to enable us to execute on and balance with investing in the business and ensuring that we can continue to balance that.

Michael Carrier

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful. And then just on the other expenses, I know you gave some color in the quarter on product launches and marketing spend. Just wanted to get a sense when we think about this year maybe where the level should be on, like a per quarter basis and maybe just based on what you guys are working on in terms of the new product side and how maybe active that portion of the spend will be?

Michael Angerthal

Management

Yes, this is Mike Angerthal. I think a good way to look at it is over the course of the year and I think when we look at the other operating expense line on an annual basis, I think the average was slightly over 11 million, maybe 11.3 million. So there are going to be periods where it’s on the high end and they’ll be periods on the low end. And you kind of saw that in the last two quarters. I think last quarter we were slightly below 11 million and here we’re above that. So I think the best way to look at it is look at our annual level and just look at that and provide it on a quarterly basis, and we’ll know that some periods will be slightly above or below.

Michael Carrier

Analyst

Okay. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ari Ghosh with Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Ari Ghosh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hi. Good morning, guys.

George Aylward

Management

Good morning.

Ari Ghosh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Just coming back to the financing of the RidgeWorth deal, just wondering if the prevailing market conditions have nudged you any closer to finalizing a mix for that? And specifically if you can speak to a total company debt to EBITDA level that you are comfortable running with, either from a company target standpoint or based on the caps that you might have under your new facilities? Thanks.

George Aylward

Management

Sure, so a couple of things. As Mike sort of pointed out and as we said on our last call, we already have the committed debt financing in place. We now have an effective registration statement. So you’re sort of alluding to another factor that we have to start thinking about is the market conditions which will evaluate the market conditions. So in terms of putting together the optimal mix, we are very focused on those elements of making sure we have a meaningful accretion to the shareholder, as Mike sort of alluded to, making sure that we still have the appropriate flexibility in our balance sheet. And as we look in terms of being a debt-bearing company, and again at this size and at this level of cash flows, we’re much more comfortable than we would have been previously. I’m not going to give you any specific guidance in terms of what that might look like but as a publicly traded asset manager in terms of our size, we’ll be cognizant of what’s the appropriate level to do. But ultimately it will come down to making sure the combination of all these pieces do the right things for shareholders in terms of having us achieve the accretion that we’re targeting as well as putting in the right capital structure for the long term of the business. Mike, do you want to add anything at all?

Michael Angerthal

Management

The only thing I would add with respect to the view of the market conditions I think we’ve indicated that we do intend to put the capital structure in place before closing of the transaction. So that is something that we are focused on.

Ari Ghosh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Got it. And then just on the institutional SMA side, hoping that you would flush out a little bit of the demand trends, where you’re seeing the most demand and how that compares to 2016 where you kind of saw a robust uptick in levels over there. And then also if you could just talk about RidgeWorth’s institutional net flow trends. I don’t think we’ve touched on that before and if you expect that to be net additive when the AUM rolls over? Thanks.

George Aylward

Management

So on the first piece in terms of the institutional business and as we indicated in our remarks, we’re very pleased that we’ve had some continued traction in that area. It’s still not at the levels that we ultimately want to achieve but very pleased to see the continued progress. As you know in any given quarter, it’s been different managers and different strategies, so Duff and Phelps has had periods where they’ve had solid contributions; Kayne Anderson Rudnick as well and Newfleet as well. So, again, I still think we have opportunities with each of those managers given the relative performance that we feel is very compelling in their differentiated strategies. So we continue to see opportunities there. And I think it’s sort of hard – as I sit here today I’d like to think that the market is a little more constructive than we might have otherwise been expecting. If you ask me how it was compared to last year, probably than we thought in January of 2015, but that could all change tomorrow. But we feel very good that we have multiple engines there. Then I’m sorry, you’re second question was really related to RidgeWorth?

Ari Ghosh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Their institutional net flow trends, if you can provide a little color on what the trailing 12s looked like or even like directionally if you expect it to be net additive when the AUM rolls over?

George Aylward

Management

Well, a couple of things. We did give the ending AUM number for RidgeWorth and we’re very pleased with that. And again I think as you know, some of their mutual fund information is publicly discernable from stuff that’s out there. So we’ve been very impressed with some of the strengths of some of their great funds including their senior floating rate fund. For institutional in terms of whether – how we’re going to see it, I’m not going to give you specific guidance but one of the things that attracted us to this transaction is just the quality of the managers and their presence in that institutional space where they’ve continued to have opportunities on both the equity side as well as the fixed income side. So we’re hopeful that that will continue to be the case and obviously we’ll be additive to the traction that we’ve been generating.

Ari Ghosh

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks, guys. That’s helpful.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Surinder Thind with Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Good morning, gentlemen. I’d like to start with just a question about kind of the sales and marketing strategy or distribution at this point, given the change in the administration and potentially the suspension of the DOL rule. What are you guys hearing from clients and how are you guys thinking about the strategy going forward versus maybe where you guys were three months ago?

George Aylward

Management

In the environment whenever there is some uncertainty, that’s always a challenge. I think we like many others are continuing to move forward with the assumption that things that have been going down the path in terms of fiduciary rule and some of the other changes that our distribution partners are making will continue to be the case. If that changes, we can certainly adjust as well. But we have been very focused on being good partners with our intermediaries working on our share classes. And again, we do what we always do on the sales level which is trying to have our wholesalers engage financial advisors in the ways that can help them solve problems for their clients’ portfolios, which generally in the past has been about having good strategies and a good asset allocation in their book. But now part of it is also solving for some of those areas of focus from the DOL, et cetera. So we’re continuing to work along the path that we’re hearing from our distribution partners in terms of moving towards some of the goals that are being outlined by some of those regulations.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Fair enough. And just related to that, obviously as we kind of read in the media reports, some clients are heading down full path under the assumption that whether or not the DOL rule is suspended, they are going down the path of more fee-oriented accounts versus others are taking a bit of a pause. Do you think if the rule is suspended, just kind of a more general question industry-wide, would that create more uncertainty for a couple – for let’s say it takes them two years to get the rule rationalized or consistent with maybe what the SEC might be doing?

George Aylward

Management

Well, it all depends on what the communication is, right? So right now, if an industry expects a rule and then understands what the rule is, it can work towards addressing it. If something is just simply suspended with no indication of what may be coming, that by definition will create a little bit more uncertainty. So I think it will all be about what the communication is and is something being delayed, is something being terminated and then what’s the vision in terms of what may come following. So, again, we live in a world that is subject to a lot of regulations and regulations change. I think the industry has done a good job of always being nimble in terms of being responsive to changes in regulatory direction and I expect we’ll continue to do so.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

That’s helpful. And then maybe just a really quick question on the compensation level. Looking at the 4Q numbers, it was perhaps a little bit higher than what I was expecting. Is that fair for a run rate going forward other than seasonality, or is there may be some true-up embedded in there?

Michael Angerthal

Management

I think it’s fair to model it at the level in the fourth quarter. As I indicated, I think variable compensation was increased during the quarter that offset decreases in the fixed level, the base salaries based on some of the restructuring and severance we had undertaken earlier in the year. So I think this quarter is a good indicator.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Understood. And can you remind me approximately what percentage is variable compensation?

Michael Angerthal

Management

We talked about a meaningful level probably between 50% and 55% being variable in nature. And that was driven by profit pools and sales based and just a reminder that our affiliates each have discrete profit pools based on their respective performances in periods where AUM changes either by third party sub-advisors or in one area of another. You do need to recall that pools are distinct and separate for each of our affiliates.

Surinder Thind

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Understood. Thanks. That’s it for me.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Aylward for any closing remarks.

George Aylward

Management

I want to thank everyone today for joining us and we certainly encourage you to give us a call if you have any other further questions. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes today’s teleconference. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.