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Q3 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 3, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, everyone and welcome to the VPG Fiscal Third Quarter Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please also note that today's event is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Wendy Wilson. Ma'am, please go ahead.

Wendy Wilson

Analyst

Thank you, Jamie. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to VPG's 2015 fiscal third quarter earnings conference call. An audio recording will be made of the conference call today, including any questions or comments that you may contribute. By now you all should have received the earnings press release and we hope you have taken the time to read through it, as it does contain important information. You can find it including relevant non-GAAP reconciliations on our Web site at www.vpgsensors.com. An audio recording will be available on the Internet for a limited time and can be accessed on the Web site. The content of this conference call is owned by VPG and is protected by U.S. and International Copyright Law. You may not make any recordings or other copies of this call and you may not reproduce, distribute, adapt, transmit, display or perform the contents of this conference call in whole or in part without our permission. Moving on to Slide 2, today's remarks are governed by the Safe Harbor provisions of the 1995 Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Actual results may turn out significantly better or worse than indicated by any forward-looking statements that we may make today. For a more complete discussion of the risks associated with VPG's operations, please refer to our SEC filings, especially the Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2014. And now, it's my pleasure to introduce the host for today's call, Ziv Shoshani, CEO and President; and Bill Clancy, CFO. Bill?

Bill Clancy

Analyst

Thanks, Wendy. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on our call today. I'd like to start by reviewing a few highlights, and then summarizing the financials on Slide 3. Following that, Ziv will provide his view of results and the global business environment. Third quarter revenues came in at $57.1 million, a $6.3 million or a 9.9% decrease from $63.4 million for the prior year period. The overall negative impact of foreign exchange rates to revenues in the quarter was $4.5 million compared to the third quarter of 2014. Comparing sequential results, net revenues for the third quarter of 2015 decreased by $2.4 million or 4% from the $59.5 million in the second quarter of 2015. This decrease includes the result of the normal seasonality in our business. Adjusted diluted earnings per share were $0.18 versus $0.24 in the third quarter of fiscal 2014. The overall negative impact of foreign exchange rates to net income for the quarter as compared to the third quarter of 2014 was $700,000 or $0.05 per diluted share. Revenues for the nine months are $173.3 million, a $16.5 million or 8.7% decrease from $189.8 million for the prior year period. The overall negative impact of foreign exchange rates to revenues in the nine months are $14 million compared to the first nine months of 2014. Adjusted net earnings for the nine months of 2015 were $5 million or $0.36 per diluted share versus adjusted net earnings attributable to VPG's stockholders of $8.4 million or $0.60 per diluted share for the nine months of 2014. Foreign exchange rates for the nine months of 2015 as compared to the prior year period had a negative impact to negative income of $1.2 million or $0.08 per diluted share. During the third quarter, we repurchased 185,000…

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Thank you, Bill. An important part of our strategy is to grow by developing new product offering and our advance sensor continues to gain traction. This platform which is part of our FTP segment in which we developed few years ago is reporting revenue increase of 47.3% in Q3 of 2015 versus Q3 of 2014. I'm very pleased with the continued acceptance of this new sensor platform as it offers enhanced performance to customers in conjunction with the competitive cost base. Global conditions have created a challenging environment for the U.S. economy that challenge is increasing as China's economic problems have become more evident during the last few months. The raising dollar is not only making U.S. companies less competitive, it is cutting earnings valued in dollars and therefore, reducing margins for U.S. multinationals. China's slowing is exposing global excess capacity in many industries. In addition, we face lower commodity prices on world markets. The eurozone continues to make steady progress but the growth rate is to a four month low during the last month. The world steel forecast that steel demand will decrease by 1.7% in 2015 following a growth of 0.7% in 2014. In 2016, it is forecasted that the world's steel demand will show growth of 0.7% versus 2015. China's steel demand is expected to decrease by 3.5% and 2.0% in 2016 following its demand peak in 2013. While the U.S. economic fundamentals continue to remain solid, steel demand in the U.S. is expected to show negative growth of 3% in 2015 due to currency appreciation and the slowing energy sector, while in 2016, the forecast is for the growth of 1.3%. In the EU, there is a broadening of the recovery momentum aided by low oil prices, low interest rates and a weak euro. All in…

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from John Franzreb from Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead with your question.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Good morning, guys.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Good morning.

Bill Clancy

Analyst

Good morning, John.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Actually just want to start on the cost side of the equation though you referenced in your prepared remarks, your SG&A has gone down, part of it is FX, part of it is cost savings, but it's being noticeably down for three straight quarters. I wonder if you could address, how much of that you think is sustainable in the current exchange environment. And also, how much cost savings yet to be realized on both the gross margin and the SG&A line.

Bill Clancy

Analyst

Well, I think from an SG&A perspective, I think it's definitely sustainable John given the constant exchange rate, remember right now, we are showing a positive year-over-year at $1.4 million just on exchange rates. The other important thing was -- there was a reduction of $400,000 related to headcounts. As far as from the gross margin side, I would defer that and let Ziv explain the cost savings coming through on that line.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Thank you, Bill. John, in regards to the gross margin level, I think that we have mentioned in prior calls that we have multiple initiatives in all the reporting segments to realize the better cost if we speak about, further consolidation into India in regards to force sensors or getting better tailwinds in regards to the introduction of the advance sensors. We should expect with those cost savings -- would continue to be realized in the following quarters and there might be even to an extent be an acceleration of that -- of those programs. So the costs savings that has been realized so far are sustainable.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay, perfect. And Ziv, I will change my question -- my second question, I wanted to ask you about your comments, your prepared remarks, you spent a lot of time talking about the steel market. Could you well a) refresh our memory how much of your revenue is tied to steel and b) why the elaboration about the steel market, is that your biggest concern, can you just talk about that?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Okay. Well, I think the -- always the steel market was part of our end markets but it became more evident post acquisition of KELK.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Right.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

The steel -- and if you can recall at that time, we were -- the revenues at that time of course were much higher close to the $30 million -- $30 million, $32 million range that VPG has a much bigger stake in steel. I think that unfortunately as we have reported along the years, we had a very good year, post acquisition and afterwards there was a very steep slowdown from a market cycle. So therefore, we continued to report the steel progress due to the fact that again there is around at this point in time at least a $20 million -- around $20 million in the steel also has to be mentioned that the steel business we have reported is highly profitable for us, gross margin is over 50%, therefore, the impact is very dramatic on the pretax level. In addition to that, I think that this is why we saw the necessity to report that from every earnings call. And I think that what I just said today that it looks based on the macro economical indicators is that Asia will continue to contract going forward, but there are signs for recovering the developing countries. So I think that hopefully we may see the end of the steel recession and we may see some upside starting in 2016 driven by the developing countries predominantly U.S., Japan and Western Europe.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thank you for taking my question. I'll get back to queue.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Sarkis Sherbetchyan from B. Riley & Company. Please go ahead with your question.

Sarkis Sherbetchyan

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. So first, with respect to optimizing manufacturing cost, you did mention some facility consolidation, can you may be give us some more puts and takes with respect to that and perhaps quantify when we should start seeing the benefit flow through to the P&L?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

The consolidation of the manufacturing mainly regards to the second -- to the second reporting segments. Force sensors we have been discussing that since we have established our main manufacturing plant in India. It has been indicated along the last few years that it takes time to consolidate due to the fact that we need to get the proper customer approval that we need to get the proper international approvals in order to move the production to India we have been doing that in the last 18 months. I think that we had been realizing savings in the last 18 months, but to a lower extent as this process is being accelerated, we should realize more and more savings due to the consolidation to our India facility. And I think that part of the margin improve -- part of the -- I would say a big portion of the gross margin improvement in regard to force sensors achieving a 21% at the very, very low revenues level of $14.6 million, if you look at the same reporting segment, the last time we have achieved the 21% was at a much higher sales level. So I think that we were able to achieve that due to the consolidation. We should expect to see an acceleration of those cost savings moving forward predominantly starting in 2016 onwards. And this should be in the -- if I may say in the 100s of 1000s of dollars per annum.

Sarkis Sherbetchyan

Analyst

Very good. And with respect to the different segments of the businesses, given that you have given us the Q4 kind of revenue guidance, can you may be touch upon the puts and takes for each segment as to where you're seeing strength and/or when -- where you're seeing weaknesses?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Yes, yes of course. One important factor to mention is that historically and this applies also for this quarter since we have close to 40% of our revenues being sold to Europe historically, we do have the seasonality effect. Therefore, some of the reporting segments we always realize lower sales in the third quarter due to the European vacation time. Let me start with the first segment, the first segment FTP, we had very good sales in the third quarter. The resistor side was very strong, mainly due to the semiconductor testing equipment back end and front end and we do expect it to continue also into Q4. Regarding strain gages, I think that we have made big, big progress in regards to getting capacity onboard shortening lead time and the fact that we had fairly strong quarter in Q3 in regards to revenues implies the fact that we were able to now reducibly time provide product to customers. We may expect to have, I would say a slower Q4 due to the fact that most of our key customers mainly in the end user market -- at end users which are project driven have enough inventory on their hands. Regarding force sensors; force sensors, the biggest effect from a macro economical condition, we have it on both the precision weighing which is more of a semi-commodity driven in the United States and Europe and the OEM business which is affected by the precision agriculture -- which is affected by the low commodity prices, which is affecting our precision agriculture customers and I would say to an extent also some of our construction -- equipment construction customers. To some extent we have seasonality effect in Q3, I would not expect that the macro economical condition to change very much, but I would expect that the revenues would be -- would rebound in the following quarter due to seasonality. Our last reporting segment WCS has been -- as at least on the onboarding weighing and the process weighing side 2/3rds of the revenues are being recognized in Europe, therefore, seasonality effect was much more significant and we should expect some rebound in revenues in Q4.

Sarkis Sherbetchyan

Analyst

Very good. I will hop back into the queue.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Saidal Mohmand from Grizzly Rock Capital. Please go ahead with your question.

Q - Saidal Mohmand

Analyst · your question.

Yes. Thanks. I was wondering, if you could quantify the restatement cost compared for the last quarter and if those are included in the add backs?

Bill Clancy

Analyst · your question.

When you -- the restatement cost, I mean all that was taken care of when we filed in the second quarter 10-Q.

Q - Saidal Mohmand

Analyst · your question.

Okay.

Bill Clancy

Analyst · your question.

I mean, there are no further restatement costs coming through in the third quarter.

Q - Saidal Mohmand

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Got it. Great. And then, I guess given the write down of KELK and some of the very high multiple -- some of the targets that you maybe looking at, in some cases, three x the multiples to say, I mean, should we assume that you are first and foremost priority will be on -- will be driven by optimizing the current business and perhaps repurchasing shares under your 2 million share against your authorization?

Bill Clancy

Analyst · your question.

I mean if there -- yes, Ziv.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst · your question.

Please Bill, go ahead please.

Bill Clancy

Analyst · your question.

I was going to say, our goal was obviously to optimize the top line to organic growth, obviously and acquisition is a major and a significant role, where we are trying to allocate our capital allocation for -- primarily for acquisitions, developing organic growth. Ziv, I will let you add on to that.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst · your question.

Yes. Bill, this is correct. I mean we have invested the first initial years in order to change the business model in regards to some of the reporting segments to put it in the right -- on the right course in regards to a better cost reduction. You know from a strategic standpoint and also to develop major new product as advance sensors and truck van weighs which could take the company's -- which will open -- for the company new opportunities for higher and bigger revenues with new applications and new customers. Of course, very recently M&A became more important on the priority list. We do understand that our valuation -- we are -- it's fairly low, the way we look at M&A, we have few criteria's that we have communicated to the investment communities which for example, we are looking at the minimum for any company that we will look at the criteria would be a minimum of 15% internal rate of return, we are looking at the -- also a very competitive return on investment. And we all understand that if we are going to meet this criteria, I would assume that this would improve the company's performance and at the end of the day, will effect also the company's -- I hope multiple. But if we -- but if we were able to achieve the goal of the internal rate of return and the return on investments, I think we are going to enhance the company's performance and enhance shareholders value by doing that.

Q - Saidal Mohmand

Analyst · your question.

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is a follow up from John Franzreb from Sidoti & Company.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Hey, guys. I may have missed this but in force sensors volume was down 2.2 million year-over-year what's going on there, why was that the case?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

On force sensors, if we look year-over-year, on force sensors year-over-year that the reduction -- the net reduction is $300,000 right John? I can -- looking at the information, I have the volume has increased by $1.5 million while the exchange -- while the negative exchange rate was $1.8 million. So in fact the volume has increased dramatically while the negative exchange rate was bigger than that so while you do see the net effect of 300 negative this is driven by 1.8 negative of exchange rate.

John Franzreb

Analyst

May be I'm misreading it, because I thought in the press release it was the volume was down 2.2 and 0.7 in exchange, may be I'm --

Bill Clancy

Analyst

He is comparing it to the third quarter of 2014 so.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Right.

Bill Clancy

Analyst

John, you're -- I mean there is a reduction of volume of 2.2 and exchange rates of $700,000.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay. So the year-over-year was down 2.2?

Bill Clancy

Analyst

For the volume.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Yes, so why was -- okay, so the question stands then, why was such a big drop in volume year-over-year?

Bill Clancy

Analyst

I mean -- the reduction in volume year-over-year is primarily coming from European precision weighing.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay.

Bill Clancy

Analyst

Primarily, yes, if we look at it year-over-year primarily $1.8 million was coming from Europe.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

I'm sorry, John. My mistake I was looking at FTP you were looking at a complete company.

Bill Clancy

Analyst

He is looking at force sensors.

John Franzreb

Analyst

No, I'm looking at force sensor Ziv.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Okay, okay, okay, sorry, sorry. Okay. My mistake, I was looking at FTP okay. For o the force sensors I will tell you, there is a reduction of $2.2 million 50% of this reduction is coming from one single customer. If you may recall, I did discuss in prior earnings call regarding the small tilt application. This is a new designing, well this is a fairly new designing that happened two years ago. Last year, we have realized $2.5 million of revenue, it goes into small tilts, which measure the weight of steels and coins in order to reduce replenishment of coin at super market and retailers, and in fact there is an immediate, the cost savings is fairly quick three, four months from the retail standpoint. The fact is that so far we have been selling, we have been selling that to -- this is a British OEM that has been selling that to the British retails and this year it was expected to move into the German retail and also to the U.S. market. We are a sole source. Last year we have realized $2.5 million of revenue. He assured us that we -- that he is going to have much higher revenues this year, somehow his plans has not materialized in this year, we have realized zero sales. So 50% of their debt reduction and I have to again explain we are a sole source. We have 12 to 16 launches depends on the complexity in each small tilt, we have a sole source. But he -- again he didn't lose his customer base, but there was a major, major slowdown in the introduction of small tilts in Germany further in the U.K. and in the U.S., therefore, we did not ship any product. This accounts for 50% of the drop in force sensors, the other 50% comes as I stated before due to the lower commodity prices and I think it has been announced by John Deere and others major, major restructuring and as we have been focusing at the precision agriculture, for example is one of our major OEM. In addition to construction and medical, we have seen dramatic slow down in demand for those end markets and most of those customers or most of the type of customers already announced to the public since we are publicly held companies major, major restructuring. So just to summarize that again 50% is this one application, which we know we should expect to see sales next year and they even have much, much at least their plan is to have a huge demand going forward and the other 50% this is OEM predominantly precision equipment manufacturers in the agriculture market.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Okay. It's prefect. And switching to the weighing and control Segment, despite lower revenues, the gross margin really was quite nice and in the press release, you mentioned favorable product mix, could you talk a little bit about the favorable product mix and what that was and the impact?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. In the process weighing market which is represented by the BLH, this is the U.S. brand and by Nobel, which is the Swedish brand, we have different types of projects. We have -- I would say the projects which are more -- which are fairly simpler, I mean which we take sub-assemblies of all the equipment that we produce if it goes our junction, the electronics the hydraulics and we tailor that to our application. Those are I would say simpler projects, which calls for lower margins. While there are a different type of projects which are completely customized projects which we have to develop specific software, I would say we have to design and integrate specific hardware and all the sub-assemblies, those are much more complicated projects mainly for the petrochemical and pharmaceutical markets, which to an extent each project is a contract by itself, the fact that those are higher revenues and due to the fact that there is much more engineering work those are higher margin products. So when we speak about favorable mix, we are looking at much more of those sophisticated project in regards to the fairly simpler projects at lower margin.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Got it. And one last question Ziv, I don't think I heard you mention in your commentary and if you did I apologize about your distribution channels, could you talk a little bit about inventory levels equilibrium what are you hearing from your distributor customers?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Yes. In regards to distribution and I did touch based on that fairly -- I did touch based on that in regards to measurement scoop and strain gages. We have been advised by our main distributors in the FTP mainly for strain gages and to an extent for force sensors for launches in the United States and Europe that their inventory level is fairly high and they would not -- their expectation to continue to place orders on us is really depending how fast they are going to deplete their existing inventories. So there is also a slow down from a distribution standpoint.

John Franzreb

Analyst

Got it, okay. Understood. Okay, I'll get back in the queue guys.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst

Thank you, John.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Wess Cummins from Nokomis Capital. Please go ahead with your question.

Wess Cummins

Analyst · your question.

Hey, thanks. And Bill or Ziv, if you guys could just walk us through kind of where you are on advance sensors both from a revenue and then also the impact on the bottom line or EBITDA for this year and kind of what we should expect for next year and the following year just the way you see that flowing through? And then also along those lines your CapEx spend, should we expect it to stay at this level or are you getting close to the end of that increased CapEx spend that you needed to put this line in place?

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst · your question.

Okay, okay. Great. So Wess, in regards to advanced sensors as we said and we do indicate and advice on the progress on a quarterly basis. The revenues and the acceptance is very good and the revenues are increasing very, very nicely. This year we are going to, I would say realize and we never provided the exact number but this would be I would say around, I would say between $5 million to $10 million of revenue, which is more than double of last year's revenue. Next year the expectation is to increase by another I would say 50% -- 50% the capacity that we currently have in place that has, that we have allocated capital investment this year would allow us to still double the revenues with very little capital spending. Within the existing infrastructure, we could quadruple the volume if needed and I think that over a time, and I think hopefully I think about the near future, I believe I speak about the near future, not the far future, we would be able to fill that capacity with further -- with very little investment and I speak about $3.5 million to $4 million per annum. So the upside of the advance sensors is huge. We never provided EBITDA numbers in regard to the advance sensors as a standalone product line but the fact is that advance sensors at this point in time, the revenues are powerfully new businesses for new applications in conjunction with transition of existing business from the legacy technology into the advance sensor technology. So by doing that, we have a better cost base with enhanced performance for our customers with a new design in conjunction with new revenues, new applications and to an extent new customers. So this is a big, big upside, so all the infrastructure that has been invested in advance sensors could more than quadruple, I would say this year volume and still stay with existing infrastructure with fairly small capital investments, again, $3 million to $4 million per annum. Going regarding the capital investments for the company, we are still looking at a level of $10 million to $11 million and based on the progress and the volume expansion that we may see at advance sensors and maybe that other product lines, I would say that we should expect to see similar level of capital investments for 2016, also at the level of $10 million to $11 million.

Wess Cummins

Analyst · your question.

I understand. Ziv just or maybe Bill, you can answer, did you -- maybe I missed at the -- kind of the EBITDA drag of advance sensors this year and when we should see that kind of breakeven and start to contribute. I'm just trying to see that flop -- when that flips over.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst · your question.

Based on our earlier discussions, advance sensors due to the fact that there is an infrastructure and a complete overhead to support a much bigger business and to assure the quality of the existing high volume because we are still focused. We currently produce millions of parts. We will not achieve the breakeven point this year. So next year and I think I did mention that the breakeven point should be around $8 million to $9 million. Once we achieve the breakeven point, I would say that the contribution margin of advance sensors -- of each additional dollar of revenue in advance sensors going to the pre-tax level is more than 50%.

Wess Cummins

Analyst · your question.

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Ziv Shoshani

Analyst · your question.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we've reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference call back over to Ms. Wilson for any closing remarks.

Wendy Wilson

Analyst

Thank you, Jamie. And thank you everyone for dialing in today. Thanks for your great questions. And we hope to be seeing you and talking to you during the upcoming quarter. And have a great day today. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference call. We do thank you for attending. You may now disconnect your telephone lines.