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Viemed Healthcare, Inc. (VMD)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 9, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to Viemed's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Todd Zehnder, COO. Thank you. You may begin.

Todd Zehnder

Analyst

All right. Thank you, Rob. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. Please note that our remarks in this conference call may include forward-looking statements under the U.S. federal securities laws or forward-looking information under applicable Canadian securities legislation, which we collectively refer to as forward-looking statements. Such statements reflect the Company's current views and intentions with respect to future results or events and are subject to certain risks and uncertainties, which could cause the actual results or events to vary from those indicated in forward-looking statements. Examples of such risks and uncertainties are discussed in our disclosure documents filed with the SEC or the security regulatory authorities in certain provinces of Canada. Because of these risks and uncertainties, investors should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements. The forward-looking statements made in this conference call are made as of today, and the Company undertakes no obligations to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. The third quarter financial news release, including the related financial statements, are available on the SEC's website. I'll now turn it over to Viemed's CEO, Casey Hoyt, to get things started.

Casey Hoyt

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Todd, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. The third quarter results exceeded both our projections and expectations, driven by continued organic growth in our core businesses as well as continued growth from recent M&A activity, leading to strong year-over-year and sequential growth in net revenue. Our third quarter net revenue established yet another company record of $58 million, exceeding the top end of our guidance and establishing a pathway to a strong finish in 2024. I want to acknowledge and thank our incredible Viemed family, which now numbers more than 1,150 employees. Their dedication to our Live Your Life mission and their relentless focus on patient satisfaction and operational performance will enable a strong finish to 2024. You've heard us talk about earning the trusted place in the home for some time. I want to drill down on that a bit more this morning and why it matters. Viemed is substantially differentiated from HME providers to the point that we believe that even the description home medical equipment doesn't fully capture exactly what we're doing in the home and the value we're proving out every day to patients, providers and payers. It's clear that there is a trend of providing clinical care in the home. Patients want to be treated in the comfort and safety of their home, hospitals and health systems want to avoid readmissions and payers know that the costs are lower in the home versus an institutional setting. Improving outcomes, patient satisfaction and operational efficiency are the pillars for delivering care in the home. Viemed has been a leader since day one with our high-touch, high-technology care model. What's become clear to us is that in today's environment, patient satisfaction is more critical than ever. A focus on patient outcomes…

Todd Zehnder

Analyst

All right. Thanks, Casey. In reviewing the financial results, all figures are in U.S. dollars and the full results have been made available on the SEC website. I'll focus my prepared comments on providing some additional color behind our strong performance. You'll notice we added some new disclosures this quarter around our sleep therapy patient count and sleep resupply orders. Based on feedback we've received from the investment community, we've been exploring some incremental disclosures that can assist in measuring our performance. Our goal is to build on these disclosures over the next couple of quarters. The new company record for revenue this quarter and the 17% increase was driven almost entirely by organic growth with organic or acquired revenue accounting for $1.1 million of that year-over-year increase. Our revenue increased 6% on a sequential basis with inorganic or acquired revenue accounting for only $327,000. The organic growth story at Viemed is alive and well and in our mind, provides a high level of predictability of growth in a very capital-efficient manner. Our core business in vents accounted for 55% of the revenue this quarter with sleep increasing to 17%. Our oxygen and staffing businesses continue to grow as well with those each contributing roughly 10% of this quarter's revenue. We're also making incremental improvements with the East Alabama Medical Center JV. Gross margin was fairly consistent with the last two quarters at 59.3%. Recall, that's down year-over-year due to a change in product and service mix as sleep, oxygen and staffing continue to grow at a faster rate. Slightly above and below the 60% mark is where this current business mix should be. The EBITDA margin for the quarter was 24.1%, which is up from 23.3% in the second quarter and compares favorably with 24.5% a year ago. We've…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Brooks O'Neil with Lake Street Capital Markets. Brooks O’Neil: Congratulations on the terrific progress you're making. To be honest, you guys provided such a great overview. I only have one significant question, and I probably should know the answer to this before I even ask it. But Casey provided a nice overview of the positive shift in the regulatory environment. I'm curious if what they're talking about involves any increased reimbursement or maybe I should say, any change in reimbursement? Or is it just clarifying some of the usage guidelines and whatnot?

Casey Hoyt

Analyst

No problem. There's two regulatory -- not issues, but things that I commented on. 75-25 is a rate relief reimbursement fluctuation. Brooks, I'm not sure if you recall, but back during COVID, we've got rate relief and what they did at the beginning of last year is they recalled that relief. And so the 75-25 movement was a rural demographic mix split that they were going back and looking at the areas that we received relief and seeing if we could get that recalled basically. That's not dead. There's a lot of movement behind it. It's about $140 million lift for CMS to recall that, which is not that big. We represent less than 2% of the CMS Medicare spend as an industry. So we got some legislative support behind us, and we'll be hopeful at the end of the year to maybe recover that. But that would just be a net win for us. The other is the NCD comment, that's no relation to any kind of reimbursement shift, but it's just good policy to develop clear clinical guidelines. CMS is kind of acknowledging that they're a little too vague right now, and it's allowing MA to make up their own rules for lack of a better description. And so they're honing in on that to where MA follows their clinical guidelines. And in order to do that, they got to go into a comment period and ask for all comments, which there was no better time to have all of the research buttoned up that we've invested into over the last five to seven years to be able to kind of comment through the lens of data and publish research and rather than our opinion as a vent provider, it was extremely powerful. And we saw a lot of our peers and industry associations follow suit to our comments and latch on to them as well. So the industry was reasonably aligned with all of their commentary as it related to this. So CMS should have some powerful data to write some clear guidelines here in the future, which would be a major win for our entire industry. Brooks O’Neil: Great. Fantastic. Congratulations again on the terrific progress.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Doug Cooper with Beacon Securities.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Nice quarter. Todd, I just wanted to focus in on the -- I guess, the increased disclosure around the sleep business. I just want to make sure I got -- I understand the disclosure here. So I guess it's the fourth bullet point in your press release. The Company increased its sleep therapy patient count by 11% sequentially to 19,478. And then the Company also increased its resupply orders by 9.7% sequentially to 22,143. So there's, let's call it, just round figures, 20,000 patients in your sleep program today. And then -- but there's 22,000 -- it looks almost like there's more people in the resupply program than you have actual patients. How should I read that?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Those are mutually exclusive, Doug. So the sleep therapy patients are the ones that are on PAP therapy, like we're actually renting them the machine right now. The resupply process developed over the last, call it, 5 to 10 years. And so they're no longer in their generally, what, 13-month cap period. And so they're just on resupply. So you should add those together effectively to get to what the patients that we serve during the quarter, which was roughly 42,000.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

42,000. Okay. And then so the resupply order, that's 22,000, is that 3x a year?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

It depends. I think on average, we're a little -- we're probably closer to 2x, 2.5x per year. It depends on insurance companies, and it just depends on patient preference on how often they reorder. But ours is between 2x and 2.5x as a total company.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Okay. And just on -- when I relate back to your financials, I see the line item, other durable medical equipment rentals of $12.5 million, that's directly related to the 42,000 patients.

Todd Zehnder

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

That would have the 22,000 patients -- or excuse me, the 20,000 patients that are renting the machine. The resupply would be service revenue. But additionally, on that -- the other rentals, you would have your oxygen patients, everything else vest, nebulizers just the whole continuum of products.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Okay. And then finally, just the other equipment sales, that would be the resupply program, the $8.4 million?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Yes.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Is there anything else in that number other than the resupply program? Or is that predominant?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

It's primarily resupply, but there is other things in there.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Okay. Okay. And then to your point, Casey, the 469 patients you added on the vent program, I think I went back and looked -- this might be, in fact, it might be the biggest lift I've seen on an absolute basis. Maybe -- well, I went back five years. There might have been one quarter where you added more than that, and there was 455 in the prior in quarter two. What do you attribute to -- is it just increased sales? Or are the referring docs are they becoming more comfortable with the program?

Casey Hoyt

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

I mean I really attribute it to our training program, our restructure of the sales force. It's -- we're doing more with less. And these guys are extremely productive. They're polished. They're more educated. We have the right people in the right spots throughout the country. It wasn't an easy movement. We moved 12 folks into upper -- middle management and just restructured the entire sales force. I would say that we still -- and we started talking about this at the beginning of the year, but we've yet to really benefit from the recruiting, the localized recruiting benefits that are on the ground just because we've been so laser-focused on training our folks up. But that's the next phase of the sales restructure is really recruiting people localized in their backyards. And we have the recipe now for training. We have the recipe right now for finding the right people. Now it's 2024 and -- I mean Q4 and 2025 is going to be about recruiting and finding these guys and incrementally growing. So we're super excited about where we sit right now.

Doug Cooper

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

Okay. And just finally, on the M&A side, you said it's -- the pipeline is looking pretty robust. Any color on what -- is it in the sleep? I'm assuming it wouldn't be vents, but would it be sleep? Would it be outside of the respiratory space? Maybe just more color on kind of size of the companies you might be looking at?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst · Beacon Securities.

We're not always going to be leaning towards respiratory, Doug. We're not exclusive to that. I mean we will look at other businesses. We've looked at other businesses. We generally have said that the size of the HMP acquisition was just a really good size, which was that $25 million to $30 million range. But we'll do smaller deals as necessary or we'll look at larger deals. So we've got a little bit of everything in there right now, but it just feels like we're getting more inbound calls over the last, call it, three months than we had the prior couple of years.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Ilya Zubkov with Freedom Broker.

Ilya Zubkov

Analyst

So my first question is on the EBITDA margin expansion. I see that adjusted EBITDA margin is expanding from quarter-to-quarter this year. And I was wondering if the primary driver for that is permanent like economy of scale? And if yes, could it be in effect next year as well?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst

Yes. I mean, generally, our EBITDA margins do get stronger as the year goes on. If you look at it just quarter-over-quarter, we generally see higher margins. But the answer is yes, we do see some efficiencies that have come with scale. The reduction year-over-year is just due to the revenue composition. As vents become a slightly smaller percentage of our revenue, it's a challenge to keep our margins flat, but we were pretty close with that, and that just shows that everything across the board is getting a little bit more efficient with scale and we get the leverage of becoming a bigger company. So a lot of moving parts and pieces, but we're extremely excited about the overall metric. That's why in my prepared remarks, I talked about revenue as a percentage -- or excuse me, SG&A as a percentage of revenue because the gross margin is very product driven. The G&A is something that we have more control over and the scalability that you're referring to.

Ilya Zubkov

Analyst

Great. And another one on the current progress in replacement of recalled ventilators. So I see that CapEx is growing, and I wanted to ask if you expect further increase in CapEx in nearest quarters? And what is the expected timing for full replacement of recalled ventilators?

Todd Zehnder

Analyst

Yes. I mean, like I said in the earlier part, we definitely saw an increase this quarter, but we're starting to measure it on a net CapEx because the third quarter was where we really got into a groove of selling or distributing our vents back to Philips. And obviously, our vent patient count is growing, so we have to replace those vents with CapEx. It's why you saw us very deliberately disclose net CapEx, and we're very proud that I think the net CapEx as a percentage of EBITDA is probably the lowest it's ever been in our corporate history. I would expect that number to continue to be very large this quarter. And very likely, it will stay like that through at least the middle of next year. We're kind of waiting on Philips and the FDA and anybody else that is going to be needed to make a decision of when they can actually remediate some of their vents versus us just selling them back to them. But we'll be working in conjunction with them to see how that all shakes out to determine whether we keep selling at the rate that we are right now or maybe we send some back to be able to stay on patients and so forth. So it's a little early for us to say how long it will take us to finish, but it will definitely go into next year because we still have a pretty significant fleet out there.

Operator

Operator

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to management for closing comments.

Todd Zehnder

Analyst

We want to thank everybody for listening in. And if you have follow-up questions, please reach out to us, and we look forward to talking to everyone. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and we thank you for your participation.