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Viemed Healthcare, Inc. (VMD)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Sat, May 11, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Viemed First Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Todd Zehnder, Chief Operating Officer. Please go ahead.

Todd Zehnder

Management

Okay. Thank you, Jessica, and good morning, everyone. Please note that remarks in this conference call regarding our expectations, future plans and intentions may constitute forward-looking information as such term is defined in applicable Canadian securities legislation. All statements, other than statements of historical fact, may be forward-looking information. Such statements reflect the company's current views and intentions with respect to future events and current information available to the company and are subject to certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions. Many factors could cause the actual results, performance or achievements that may be expressed or implied by such forward-looking information to vary from those described herein should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize. Examples of such risk factors are discussed or referred to in the company's disclosure documents filed with the security regulatory authorities in certain provinces of Canada and are available at www.SEDAR.com. Should any factor affect the company in an unexpected manner or should assumptions underlying the forward-looking information prove incorrect, the actual results or events may differ materially from the results or events predicted. Any such forward-looking information is expressly qualified in its entirety by this cautionary statement. Moreover, the company does not assume responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of such forward-looking information. The forward-looking information included in this conference call is made as of the date hereof, and the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking information other than by applicable law. The first quarter financial results, news release, the related financial statements and the management discussion and analysis are available on SEDAR. Now I will turn it over to Casey to get things started.

Casey Hoyt

Management

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating on our call today. For the past -- for the past few quarters, we’ve talked about how underserved the patients are in our market space and how critical it is for us to get to those patients through ramping up our recruiting, hiring and training efforts. We’ve also spoken about how the company views the upcoming regulatory landscape as an opportunity to scale our business at an even faster rate. We will continue these discussions in this quarter's update, but know that the stage is set for Viemed to help a ton of patients in both the near and long-term. I couldn't be more thrilled to be at the helm of this organization, leading some of the most passionate, caring and capable health care professionals in the country. Furthermore, I'm extremely honored to have the opportunity to be reporting on yet another record-breaking quarter. We have regularly stated that if we are not experiencing between 2% and 3% of revenue growth per month, then we are digging in our entire operations to ask, why not? This quarter is no different than any other in terms of growth rate as we experienced another sequential quarter of revenue growth to a tune of 11%. As many understand, the larger we get, the harder it is to maintain our historical growth rate. However, our staff has been up to the challenge and the numbers are reflecting their hard work. The continued effort of our sales managers, trainers and people in the field are fueling our success. We’ve been experiencing similar success with hiring registered nurses as we have with hiring respiratory therapists. These RNs come into our organization with clinical knowledge and the passion required to uncover our patients in the hospital. This new success…

Todd Zehnder

Management

All right. Thank you, Casey. In reviewing the financial results, all figures are in U.S. dollars. And once again, the full results are available on SEDAR. We generated revenue of $20.4 million during the first quarter of 2019 as compared to revenues of $14.1 million in the first quarter of 2018, which equates to a 45% increase. Our revenues came in right at the high-end of our previously guided range for the first quarter revenues. New vent patients continue to grow at a rapid pace as well as our other product lines that we see continued strong sales growth as we look to diversify the product revenue stream. Additionally, our gross margin percentage stayed flat at 75% for each period. Adjusted EBITDA, which excludes stock-based compensation, totaled $4.8 million for the quarter, which is a 23% margin, slightly lower than the last few quarters, primarily as a result of variable compensation tied to our stock price as well as some additional cost in our income statement related to future growth. With the strong increase on our stock price during the first quarter, our phantom share plan had a larger expense than normal. Our annual adjusted EBITDA percentage should remain relatively flat with prior years, although we might have quarter-to-quarter volatility. We have once again redeployed a significant portion of this EBITDA during the current quarter as our CapEx totaled approximately $4.5 million for the first quarter of 2019 primarily driven by new vest purchases to support our growing patient base. Our SG&A totaled approximately $11.5 million as compared to $7.3 million in the prior year's first quarter. As just mentioned, some of the variable comp is tied to the stock price of the company. Therefore, we’ve seen fluctuations in SG&A with the volatility of our stock, and we recorded $1.9…

Casey Hoyt

Management

Thank you, Todd. Our numbers are showing just how much of a growth story we are here at Viemed. While I’m pleased with how well our company has executed in the past and currently, we are far from being complacent. Our thoughts and strategies turn towards developing what is next for Viemed. The obvious route for us to take is to leverage our superior network of clinicians and salespeople who are spending such valuable time in the home to offer more solutions beyond respiratory. We are in the homes of these patients for 17 months. How can we be of more service? What technology solutions can we offer to physicians, payers, patients and caretakers? These are the questions that we are working diligently to answer. We are developing the answers that will ultimately drive us to the solutions that will help diversify and solidify the Viemed brand as the nation's leader in home health care services and technology. I appreciate your trust and interest as current and prospective investors and look forward to visiting with you in the future. This concludes our prepared remarks. We will now open the floor up for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will now take our first question from Brooks O'Neil of Lake Street Capital Market. Please go ahead.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, guys. Congratulations on a terrific start to the year.

Casey Hoyt

Management

Thank you.

Todd Zehnder

Management

Thank you.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

I was just going to ask you a couple of things. One, I noticed in your SEDAR release that bad debt expense was up a little bit quarter-over-quarter. Could you just talk about what you're seeing there or trends? And do you think that's likely to be a trend that will continue?

Todd Zehnder

Management

Well, I think the percentages are pretty close. Obviously, as our sales go up, Brooks, we're going to have a little bit higher notional bad debt just with the nature of our business. I think the percentages in general, we've always said that we trend ourselves against the rest of the DME industry and feel like we do a better job. We always say 9% to 13% is where we need to live, and we really anticipate living underneath 10%. So, sometimes the first quarter gets a little bit more difficult with interest changes and deductible season and just a lot of -- a little bit of more nuances. But I don't think over time -- I don't think over time, we would see that trend going up. We did mention that AR is up a little bit because we did implement a much more robust billing and workforce system where we’ve tablets in the home of our RTs and it's becoming much more integrated with our home office. But like any transition of a system that has 17,000 patients in it, it has difficulties that you work through. But we are on the right side of that -- we are on the right side of that and things look to be going well. And so long answer for me saying, I wouldn't think that the number goes up over time on a percentage basis.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

That’s very helpful. Then just sort of in that same general category. Obviously, as you've talked about, the hiring with sales and clinical personnel, looked like employee salary and benefits expense was up a bunch. I think you might have mentioned in your prepared remarks that you made some further investment kind of in anticipation of growth. Is that when we might find that investment and can you just talk a little bit about what's going on there?

Todd Zehnder

Management

Yes. You will see that -- obviously, we are hiring more salespeople with the rapid growth. We are up to 345 employees now. We have more -- that means we have more managers around the country. We're setting up the company for rapid expansion, and we're spending a good amount of capital, the capital -- good amount of expense on the technology division. That's a major investment and a major initiative of ours for the future. But I want to make sure, like last year, we did not have the phantom share plan in the first quarter. That came now -- as our spin out happened, it came out into the expense items in the second quarter. So you have to remember that, that's the way -- instead of diluting the shareholders, we’ve a cash based plan that's tied to the stock price. That probably has as much of an impact as some of the hiring that's happened.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

Okay. Okay. That’s good. Then maybe at the risk of belaboring it, would you mind hitting sort of the super high points of why you think competitive bidding can be an opportunity for you guys to continue to enhance your growth?

Todd Zehnder

Management

Yes. I mean, the best way to get the conversation started is, is think about our current patients and where they're located right now. If you recall, Brooks, 75% of our patients are in the rural markets and only 25% are in these competitive bidding zones. We expect to compete in these competitive bidding zones, and it's -- we are going to submit bids and it's going to fast track us into these areas. The Manhattans of the world and the Los Angeles towns that we are not in today, we are going to have a shot at getting in there through the competitive bidding process. Just keeping us on our toes and really expediting our growth is number one. But number two, there's the opportunity to compete against mom-and-pop as the largest independent provider in the vent space that has the most tenure in the business with the most sound financial health. Those are all what we are hearing are going to be weighted factors in this round of competitive bidding. That's an opportunity for us to shine in whichever area that we are bidding on. We feel pretty bullish about being up -- our ability to win these bids. And then even if we receive some pricing pressure in those specific areas, the volume that we will generate will be the ultimate opportunity for growth for our business.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

Great. Are we still thinking the moratorium is going to last two years, and that’s when it's likely we could see some element of competitive bidding come to your marketplace?

Casey Hoyt

Management

Yes. Still slated for 2021 and that’s -- that could still see a mass phase. They could change things along the way. But right now, we have no other indication that it's not going to be 2021.

Todd Zehnder

Management

Yes, they actually came out with a time line this morning reiterating that, that is the expectation but always subject to future change.

Brooks O'Neil

Analyst

Sure. Thanks again, and again, congratulations on all the progress you're making.

Casey Hoyt

Management

Thanks, Brooks.

Todd Zehnder

Management

Thanks, Brooks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We will now take our next question from Doug Cooper of Beacon Securities. Please go ahead, sir.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Hi. Good morning, guys. Great quarter. Todd, just wanted to reaffirm, you said Q2 guidance, $22.2 million to $22.8 million and margin is consistent with prior years and you would anticipate fiscal '19 being -- EBITDA margin being consistent with prior years. Is that sort of in the $25 million, $26 million range? Is that what you were talking about?

Todd Zehnder

Management

Yes. That’s where we kind of came out last year. Once again, we had some volatility last year from a quarter-to-quarter basis, so we think at the end of the year, we will end up there.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Okay. A couple of hundred basis points higher than what you just did in Q1?

Todd Zehnder

Management

Right. Right. Once again, the stock price opened pretty low after the events at the end of last year. So, as we've got out and we've educated everybody about the health of the business, the run up in the stock had a pretty unique large expense this quarter as a result of that.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Right. Casey, can you just talk about geography? You mentioned it's that -- I think you're operating -- did you say you're operating in 27 states but approved in 31 for Medicare reimbursement and approved in 40? Can you just talk about sort of the rollout of what you anticipated from a geographic perspective over the course of the year?

Casey Hoyt

Management

Yes. I mean, we are actively -- we’ve some states in there, Doug, that aren't highlighted that we do have reps actually already up and trained and running. So, we don't talk about them until we are actually getting business out of them, which is why we started talking about South Dakota and Iowa. But expect to be in the lower 48 in the next 1.5 years, expect to be in another dozen or so by, hopefully, the next two quarters. The compliance department is really running ahead of the game. It's less about license, it's more about finding folks and getting them trained and up and running right now. That's why I was commenting on the RNs. They're a nice added twist to our strategy here for recruiting. RNs have the clinical background to do -- to handle the conversation -- the clinical conversation the same way that the RTs do and we've got some up and running in areas around the country, and they're doing quite good. So, that opens up a new talent pool for our recruiters and our sales trainers to build off of around the country, and we hope that it helps us highlight states at a faster rate.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Okay. Just on that, maybe just states like, say, California, Florida, for example, when would you expect sort of meaningful revenue out of some of these bigger states?

Casey Hoyt

Management

California, we are already getting -- I mean, meaningful, it's hard to say, I can't comment on that what's exactly coming out of California right now just because I don't know off the top of my head, but it's underway. We just have one rep, but it's still -- we're looking at other pockets in the state to expand into. Florida is still -- we're just banging our head against the wall, it's kind of one of those things, we feel like it's any week now. But every time we get close, they figure out something else that they want to complain about with our application, they are being very, very tough. It's been difficult to get into that state, but it will happen at some point. I don't have a time line for you there. We are not going to really recruit until we start -- until we officially have our licensed business.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Right. You said you hired nine reps in quarter one. How many reps do you have now?

Casey Hoyt

Management

We are at 70 right now and the reason for that is last quarter, we had a round of promotions. We had some folks that moved up from the sales ranks into manager ranks and got them up and trained, and some of them are now clinical trainers. But the good news is, these nine reps -- we haven't really gotten rid of anyone. That's a testament to our training programs that are going on. We're a lot more efficient now with getting them up and running successfully. It's also a testament to our recruiting efforts. These guys are finding the right people and not wasting anyone's time when they come to our organization. We are very pleased with the way that these guys have been efficient. And look, at the end of the day, it's definitely part of the reason that you are seeing these growth numbers that we're experiencing right now

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Yes. No doubt. I guess I'm just trying to get at how long does it take a rep to be productive, in one sense, you know what I mean, you are front-end loading the cost and you anticipate obviously getting the revenues later. How long is the lag? Is it a couple of quarters or …?

Casey Hoyt

Management

We usually know by 90 days if they're going to be successful or not. And that time line has reduced the better we've gotten at bringing these folks on board. But at the 90-day mark, we will know if they're going to make it or not. And look, the majority of them, if they don't make it, they slip back into a support mode. We can -- they understand the business, they know our game and then they might not be great at sales, but they will be good at servicing patients. So we can kind of offer them a different type of opportunity within our organization.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Okay. Last one for me. Rev per patient or the rev per active patient, all-time high this quarter, just under $3,200. Obviously, that had something to do with other products. So can you talk a little bit about the other products and what you anticipate? You said you are ramping up through -- maybe diversify the brand and the product mix. Maybe you could just talk a little bit about that?

Casey Hoyt

Management

The percussion vest is really the biggest one that's taken off right now. We are experiencing a lot of success with that -- I forgot what that number was, 8%?

Todd Zehnder

Management

7%, yes.

Casey Hoyt

Management

7%, 8% of our revenue was coming from the percussion vest this quarter. It's been really nice. Our sales folks are experiencing a lot of success, just because they're uncovering a need out there, these patients that are -- our patients are really struggling with the stiffening of the lungs, which is what bronchiectasis is. So we are able to kind of -- I don't want to say mine our existing patients, but we can uncover those folks that are in our organization right now that are struggling. That's one piece with the growth. And then the next is really just getting out on the front end, educating these pulmonologists that, look, not only we will take care of these folks with the vest, but we can offer the percussion vest for them as well and handle all the training and the service with our RTs in the home and that's a big differentiator for us. So it's a nice product, if you will. We hope that -- look, I hope it to be 10% to 15% of our mix at the end of the year, but we will see as fast as vets are growing, it's kind of hard to keep up with that, but vests stand to compete for sure.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Okay. And I guess just sort of a final one for me. The KPMG study, how much do you think that has helped to grow the patient base, or is that still -- basically the big potential from that education for us, is that still to come? And then finally, you talked about product mix, is there any acquisitions out there that are starting to look better?

Casey Hoyt

Management

A ton of our growth can be attributed to KPMG. There is no question about it. But that being said, the interesting opportunity is, I still feel like our sales folks are not 100% comfortable delivering the total story of KPMG, which to me is the opportunity for even further growth with our existing referral sources and prospective wins. Our sales manager and our VP of Sales have been diligent about just educating these guys, more on how to walk and talk and the signals to look for, for opportunities to explain it not only to physicians, but let's go ahead and start explaining it to office managers and any type of nurse that is in these physician offices that stands to receive the message. As far as acquisitions, there is nothing hot to trot for us right now. I mean, we still keep our head on a swivel for anything that makes sense strategically to be a nice bolt-on or adjacent product, but there is nothing to comment at this point in time.

Doug Cooper

Analyst

Okay, great. That's it for me. Thank you.

Casey Hoyt

Management

All right. Thanks, Doug.

Operator

Operator

We will now take our next question from Russell Sarachek of CCM, LLC. Please go ahead.

Russell Sarachek

Analyst

Hey, guys. Actually, my question was answered. But just one other one I might throw at you, sort of more [indiscernible] philosophical, but when you think about your network, two questions. One, can the RTs, can they do other things for the patient in the home that -- [indiscernible] blood or other things, testing or other therapies that they're not doing now? And two is, do you think about the ability with this network that you created to slot other services into the home outside of the RT community?

Casey Hoyt

Management

That’s a good question, Russ. You are getting ahead of where we're thinking, for sure. But with the RN infrastructure that we are building up, those guys can offer more services for other disease states than the RTs. Now RTs can administer different products and services as well, but it's more within the respiratory realm. And each state has its different rule, so that can vary from state to state. So it's hard just comment blanket -- as a blanket response. But the RN infrastructure that we are building, absolutely, will open us up to being able to deliver and administer more services and care.

Todd Zehnder

Management

And explicitly, Russell, we’ve looked at many different items of what can and can't be administered in the home by an RT. You are exactly on the product, that would be a diversification effort. Also just to be the best-in-class one stop solution and extension of caregivers, which is what is all part of our mission and vision as the vet company that we are.

Russell Sarachek

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn it back to the host for any additional or closing remarks.

Todd Zehnder

Management

Yes, we would like to thank everybody for participating on the call today. And as always, if you have additional questions, reach out to us or to the folks at Bristol, and we will get back to you as soon as we can. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.