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Valley National Bancorp (VLY)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 30, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for standing by and welcome to the Valley National Bancorp First Quarter Earnings Conference. At this time, phone lines are in a listen-only mode. Later on we will have an opportunity for question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Dianne Grenz. Please go ahead.

Dianne Grenz

Analyst

Thank you, Nick. Good morning. Welcome to Valley’s first quarter 2015 earnings conference call. If you have not read the first quarter 2015 earnings release that we issued earlier this morning, you may access it from our Web site at valleynationalbank.com. Comments made during this call may contain forward-looking statements relating to Valley National Bancorp and the banking industry. Valley encourages participants to refer to our SEC filings including those found in forms 8-K, 10-Q and 10-K for complete discussion of forward-looking statements. And now, I’d like to turn the call over to Valley’s Chairman, President and CEO, Gerald Lipkin.

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

Thank you, Dianne. Good morning and welcome to our first quarter earnings conference call. For the quarter, Valley reported net income of $30.3 million or $0.13 per diluted common share reflecting an increase of $5.2 million in net income from the prior quarter. And what is historically one of Valley’s most challenging quarters largely due to seasonality within the loan portfolio and increased linked quarter core non-interest expenses, we were pleased with the reported results and believe the bank is on solid footing for increased net income as the full year materialize. Loan growth for the quarter was a bright spot throughout all categories and geographies. The total non-covered loan portfolio grew nearly $300 million during the quarter reflecting an annualized linked quarter growth rate of 8.7%. Total commercial lending gross originations including both C&I and commercial real-estate exceeded $400 million for the quarter as the non-covered loan portfolio grew over 9% annualized on a sequential quarter basis. Specifically the growth within this portfolio was largely weighted towards C&I as increased origination volume was deployed by expanded line usage. Similar to last quarter the growth in C&I activity was consistent across all of Valley’s geographies as each of the pipelines in New Jersey, New York and Florida continued to expand. Commercial real-estate volume was subdued in comparison to C&I nevertheless, this portfolio expanded over 4% from the prior quarter. Competition within this asset class remains fierce. From our perspective there continues to be an excessive amount of money chasing a limited supply of qualified borrowers and majority of activity within this base continues to be skewed towards refinances which we believe to be the result of the low interest rate environment rather than economic expansion. We continue to believe that maintaining Valley’s diverse balance sheet comprised of both consumer and…

Alan Eskow

Analyst

Thank you, Jerry. Valley's first quarter 2015 financial results reflect a full quarter of 1st United, compared to the prior length quarter which included only two months. As a result certain sequential quarter metrics may be skewed from a comparison perspective. As Jerry indicated in his prepared remarks non-covered loan growth was a highlight of Valley during the quarter increased by 8.7% annualized. On average, a linked quarter increase result of 4%, 16% annualized of which approximately $350 million was attributable to the extra months of 1st United own balance. Our expectation is that organic loan growth during the quarter will have a greater benefit to interest income in the second quarter. We anticipate continued strong loan growth into the second quarter. Valley's first quarter net interest income increased nearly $3.5 million from the fourth quarter in spite of a reduction of 2 calendar dates. The growth in net interest income was largely the result of an extra month of 1st United's balance sheet coupled with a reduction in interest expense on long-term borrows. The linked quarter decline in interest expense was mainly the product of the prepayment of $275 million in higher cost, long term borrowings, which occurred late in the prior quarter. As we move forward and contemplate our funding strategies both in composition and the duration we intend to continuously reassess our opportunities in managing the long-term borrowing portfolio. Our decision to possibly prepay a portion of the remaining debt will be conditioned on a multitude of variables including the time frame for stated maturity where there is negative impact to equity there is a linear with the prepayment. The net interest margin for the quarter was 3.12% in line with both the prior quarter and the same period one year ago. We anticipate continued margin in…

Operator

Operator

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Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst

I just thought, can you talk about any plans to purchase additional multifamily loans in the second quarter, and maybe talk about the yields that you’re adding these into portfolio.

Alan Eskow

Analyst

We’re going to continue to look at the whole opportunities to get involved in acquiring loans, originating loans. Again, I indicated that we’re going to reallocate some of our cash flow coming out of our investment portfolio we look at duration and as you know duration on some of the investments can be quite substantial. So, we’re looking at shorter duration assets and higher yield than working get on the investment portfolio. So, that being said we’re going to look at all opportunities to take advantage of loans in the market.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst

Alan, could you give us a sense of the yield by these [indiscernible] quarter the multifamily loans.

Alan Eskow

Analyst

Yes. Probably that could be in 340 range. But they had shorter duration. So again I think that’s part of what I was trying to tell you guys that duration is a very key item for us. They’re under four years or four years, approximately.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst

Okay. And Alan, relative to the 4.44 or four year loan yield we talked about, where is that new money loan yield in terms of new originations. Where they’re coming into the portfolio at this stage?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

It’s coming in about 3.5% remember there is a big mix because of the auto loans that come on at such a very low rate which we’ve been talking about for a while, so that aims to drive down the average yield that’s coming in on the entire portfolio during the quarter. It have a much shorter, as I indicated, duration and the cash flows on those are very substantial so they tend to flow through the system very quickly.

Steven Alexopoulos

Analyst

And then maybe a question for Gerry on M&A, would this deal now closed are you now officially looking for additional deals? Can you talk about how the opportunities in Florida compared to maybe Metro New York area?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

I’m restricted obviously. I can’t talk about anything specific, but we’re always looking. We are -- Rudy has been -- Rudy Schupp who is President of our Florida Operations has been very active in trying to meet with a number of individuals, banks in the Florida market trying to see if and even more interested in joining with Valley. So we have been active in the marketplace.

Operator

Operator

We’ll now go to the line of Frank Schiraldi with Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

Just on the -- first question on the nature of the C&I growth, can you just talk about at least portion of that being driven by some larger size credits and I think that was in New York area. Could you just talk maybe a little about what’s driving that demand specifically?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

This is Gerry Lip. Part of that is coming from increased line usage. Line usage flows starting in the November, December period particularly in New York, and though that usually starts to come back again in the end of January, that’s a historical cyclical item with us. So we have seen some of that coming back as well as some new credits entering and of course were being supported as well by the growth in Florida.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

I just wonder when you talk about the new demand and then I guess new customers and you talk about maybe some of the larger size credits in terms of size maybe what were some of the larger size relationships put on the books in 1Q?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

There were a couple of larger credits, a few. I mean it was a mixed bag of credit, the [OEC][ph], but there were a couple of larger credits that was 10 million.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

And then just on the Florida pipeline that you quantify actually in the release, how does that compare to the sequential quarter?

Rudy Schupp

Analyst

Well Frank it’s Rudy Schupp, just a couple of things to say. The pipeline has been growing steadily just to reach back a little bit. So at merger time -- at signing time last year for us, we were running at an $80 million - $90 million pipeline through which just directs itself now today to 180 million to 200 million depending on the day about a 120 million of which for example would be approved pending closing over a period of say up to 60 days. So that’s [indiscernible] that we tend to see are in the 50 plus percent [indiscernible] for CRE, although this last quarter, it’s much as a third of it and was categorized in C&I comprised largely of revolvers if you will, to all form of professional practices and businesses. Also we have as part of property management industry when we make loans to their clients, they tend to be booked -- they are booked in C&I.

Alan Eskow

Analyst

Just one last to point too, we do a reasonably fair amount of medical practice lending as well and that would also flow in this C&I category.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

And that would be in Florida or New York or both?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

Both.

Frank Schiraldi

Analyst

And then just finally on, Alan, you mentioned 3.5% I think yield in terms of new origination in terms of the mix. So is that in terms of what we saw in 1Q and then as auto picks up, we’d expect that’s coming further, is that sort of the number?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

No, I don’t think so, I think that’s probably the right number for the moment I don’t expect to decline below that.

Operator

Operator

We’ll go now to the line of David Darst with Guggenheim Security.

David Darst

Analyst

So just on your comment, with the two considerations are improved, earnings of 7 million. So I guess that implies that there is a 3 million of cost saves that come out from the acquisition in the second quarter?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

Approximately, right.

David Darst

Analyst

And then the remaining FDIC indemnification aspect that’s 7 million, that’s consumer now, that would be with you for a while, right?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

Yes. That’s correct.

David Darst

Analyst

And then just as you look at your service charge income understand the seasonal decline. But what’s the context the service charges being down year-over-year. And then just you can have any kind of industry level thoughts on consumer and your ability to grow the positive charges?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

A lot of that is customer behavior. People use to overdraw their account, get charged, and then all of a sudden everybody walkup to that, they stops overdrawing their accounts. Then it goes down. If that doesn’t comeback people realize it is going to cost the money. The advent of service charges on checking accounts has been decreasing industry-wide for some time now. I don’t see that turning around as much as we all would like to see it turnaround. It's just not going to happen.

David Darst

Analyst

Do you think you’re reaching a stable level, or is there a further decline?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

It’s hard to predict at this point.

David Darst

Analyst

And then one more question. You said on the $97 million anticipation. You just said your yield was 3.4%?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

Yes that 3.4.

David Darst

Analyst

Okay, what's the interest?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

Short duration loan still, they are with an interest reset, at relatively short interval.

David Darst

Analyst

Are they typically the five year or the five year reset?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

Yes, they were seasoned already, David.

David Darst

Analyst

Understand they’re seasoned, okay, because another bank for just a similar size participation, I think it’s a little bit new issue that was 3% only?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

These look better.

David Darst

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we’ll go the line of Collyn Gilbert with KBW.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst

Just Alan, in your comment you’d mentioned of the 600 million of loans that originated this quarter, you said 20% was floating. What was the profile of the other 80%?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

Remember we have auto loans that came in represented, that’s the 40%. So the rest of them are fixed of various types that came on. So there would be residential mortgage that came on, we'd have other commercial mortgages that came on, so we had a whole mix of loans.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst

Okay, I apologize. I thought that the 40% was within the 20% of floating. So it’s 60% essentially that was more or less floating.

Alan Eskow

Analyst

Yes.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst

Got it, okay. And then I’m just curious what you guys see or how are you managing sort of the CD portfolio. It looks like, it grew this quarter, just what’s the rate that you’re seeing on there and how are you thinking about pricing of deposits right now?

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

That’s pretty much market driven Collyn. We intend to go out and offer market rates. We maybe couple of points higher than the competition. We’re really looking to grow that portion of our portfolio. But we don’t go out crazy, and we’re not going to pay 2% over the market to bring in money.

Alan Eskow

Analyst

I mean, there wasn’t really much growth in term deposits this quarter. It was pretty small, Collyn. And actually on average and maybe part of that was due to the fact that we combined. We first united, I mean the yield, if you look at the margin analysis actually came down from 122 to 116 during the course of the quarter.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst

Yes, I just was trying to think, how you’re thinking about that funding. I mean funding in general which kind of tied into my next question is, how or what your view is right now on interest rates and how you're sort of managing the balance sheet in this current rate environment?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

I think the one is, is that as loan growth continues we're obviously going to have to continue to raise deposits. Some of those are going to come in as you see non-interest bearings move very nicely during the quarter. But we're going to have to also go out and look at money markets time and see what we do to raise those to fund the loan growth.

Gerald Lipkin

Analyst

The big benefit that we have of course is we've told you in the past. It is the borrowings that are over the next 30 months and then it all comes in 30 months, they comes in different periods, are going to be able to be replaced at a considerably lower cost in our estimate. And that should help our net interest margin going forward.

Collyn Gilbert

Analyst

Yes. Okay. And Alan, just as you go through your budget process. What are you guys assuming for interest rates through this process this year and then in the next year as you’re thinking about these -- the way these borrowings are going to re-price?

Alan Eskow

Analyst

I think it's -- right now we're looking at the hedges met yesterday. I don’t think we're looking at any major moves during the course of this year. I think per said we will only move slowly whenever they do begin to move, even if it is 25 basis points, we're not going to see a lot of movement here. I think they are going to test the waters at best and see what happens if they try to move it. And in the long end, it's been pretty flat and we don't see it really going any place for the moment. So we are still looking though to keep our duration short. So that we don’t get beat up if the rates do happen to go up.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. There are no further questions in queue at this time.

Dianne Grenz

Analyst

Thank you for joining us on our first quarter conference call, and have a great day.