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Viking Therapeutics, Inc. (VKTX)

Q3 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 7, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Viking Therapeutics’ 2018 Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Following management’s prepared remarks, we will hold a Q&A session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded today November 7, 2018. I would now like to turn the conference over to Viking’s Manager of Investor Relations, Stephanie Diaz. Please go ahead, Stephanie.

Stephanie Diaz

Analyst

Hello and thank you all for participating in today's call. Joining me today is Brian Lian, Viking's President and CEO, and Michael Morneau, Vice President of Finance and Administration. Before we begin, I'd like to caution that comments made during this conference call, today, November 7, 2018, will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 concerning the current beliefs of the Company, which involve a number of assumptions, risks, and uncertainties. Actual results could differ from these statements, and the Company undertakes no obligation to revise or update any statement made today. I encourage you to review all of the Company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission concerning these and other matters. I'll now turn the call over to Brian Lian for his initial comments. Brian?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Thanks, Stephanie. And thanks to everyone dialing in and listening on the webcast. Today, I'll be providing an update on recent progress and developments related to our pipeline, programs and operations. The third quarter was a particularly exciting period for Viking as both of our lead clinical programs achieved key milestones. During the quarter, we reported positive data from a Phase II trial of our novel thyroid receptor beta agonist VK2809, in patients with elevated LDL-cholesterol and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. This trial achieved both its primary and secondary endpoints, demonstrating statistically significant improvements in plasma lipids and liver fat content. We look forward to presenting these results at the upcoming meeting of the American Association for the Study of Liver Diseases. Also during the quarter, the results from a previously completed Phase II study of our novel selective androgen receptor modulator VK5211, in patients recovering from hip fracture were presented at the oral plenary session of the Annual Meeting of the American Society for Bone and Mineral Research. We believe the selection of these data for this prestigious session highlights the potential of VK5211 in the fracture recovery study. In addition, in early October, the results from a study of VK2809 an in vivo model of glycogen storage disease were highlighted during the oral plenary session of the Annual Meeting of the American Thyroid Association. These results highlighted further evidence of VK2809 beneficial effect on inflammation and fat metabolism, which we believe are relevant to a variety of liver diseases, including NASH. Finally, we strengthened our balance sheet during the quarter through an offering of common stock, putting us on solid financial footing to further advance our pipeline program. I'd like to begin today's call with a review of our third quarter financial results after which I will provide an update on our most recent corporate development. I'll now turn the call over to Mike Morneau, Viking’s, Vice President of Finance and Administration to discuss our financial results. Mike?

Michael Morneau

Analyst

Thanks Brian. In conjunction with my comments, I’d like to recommend that participants refer to Viking’s 10-Q filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, which we expect to file later today for additional details. I’ll now go over the financial results for the third quarter and first nine months of 2018. Our research and development expenses for the three months ended September 30, 2018 were $5.7 million compared to $3.5 million for the same period in 2017. The increase was primarily due to increased manufacturing expenses related to our drug candidate, preclinical study efforts, use of third-party consultants and stock-based compensation partially offset by a decrease in clinical study expenses. Our third quarter general and administrative expenses were $1.7 million compared to $1.2 million for the same period in 2017. The increase was primarily due to increased expenses related to stock-based compensation, salaries and benefits, professional services, insurance expenses, legal and patent expenses, and franchise taxes. For the three months ended September 30, 2018 Viking reported a net loss of $6.6 million or $0.11 per share compared to a net loss of $6.1 million or $0.22 per share in the corresponding period in 2017. The increase in net loss for the three months ended September 30, 2018 was primarily due to an increase in research and development expenses noted previously, partially offset by decreased expenses related to the change in fair value of the debt conversion feature liability and an increase in interest income. Our research and development expenses for the nine months ended September 30, 2018 were $14 million compared to $10.7 million for the same period in 2017. The increase was primarily due to increased expenses related to preclinical study efforts, manufacturing related to our drug candidates, use of third-party consultants and stock-based compensation partially offset by a…

Brian Lian

Analyst

Thanks Mike. During the third quarter, we made multiple announcements highlighting data from our development programs, which we believe serve as an important reminder of the breadth and depth of the value drivers in our pipeline. I'll summarize the highlights now. In September, we were pleased to announce positive topline results from a 12-week Phase II study of VK2809, our novel thyroid receptor beta agonist. As a reminder, VK2809 is an orally available agonists of the thyroid hormone receptor that possesses selectivity for liver tissue, as well as the beta receptor subtype, suggesting promising therapeutic potential in a range of lipid disorders, including non-alcoholic steatohepatitis or NASH. Our Phase II trial was a randomized, double-blind, placebo controlled parallel group study designed to evaluate the efficacy, safety, and tolerability of VK2809 in patients with non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and elevated LDL-cholesterol. Patients were randomized to receive 10 milligram oral doses of VK2809 every other day or 10 milligrams of VK2809 everyday or placebo for 12 weeks. The trial's primary endpoint evaluated the effect of VK2809 on LDL-cholesterol after 12 weeks compared to placebo. The secondary endpoint, which for many was the endpoint of greatest interest assess the change in liver fat by MRI proton density fat fraction after 12 weeks. Other endpoints assess changes in atherogenic lipid, safety and tolerability. We were pleased to report in September that the study successfully achieved its primary and secondary endpoint. With respect to the trials primary endpoint, the results demonstrated that patients receiving VK2809 experienced statistically significant reductions in LDL-C compared with the placebo-treated patient. In addition, VK2809-treated patients experienced statistically significant improvements in other lipids, including the atherogenic proteins, apolipoprotein B and lipoprotein A. While we are happy to achieve our primary endpoint, results for our secondary endpoint are potentially even more important…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Edward Nash of SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, thank you for taking my question. This is [indiscernible] on for Edward Nash. The first question I want to ask is regarding your program for NASH, and previously you indicated you’re going to have a meeting with FDA. I just want to know the progress regarding the meeting? And have you thinking change in terms of where they're going to do a Phase II, III trial? Or are you going to do a Phase IIb trial? And I have a follow-up.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes, sure. Thanks for the question. So we're actually evaluating both approaches right now and haven’t made any decisions, a lot of input in that decision. But we would plan to file an IND to proceed in the biopsy-confirmed NASH sometime in the first half of next year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. And my second question is on the VK0214. So there – are the company now developing ex-vivo gene therapy for the disease? And just want to know that how are we going to position 0214 in the context of that devolvement? Thank you.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes, thanks. So that's primarily being developed for the childhood cerebral form of the disease. And we would probably be targeting the adult population that presents with the adrenomyeloneuropathy form of the disease. So there wouldn't be in our view, any sort of a major competitive issue there. What we've also seen is that certain individuals who have successfully been treated with bone marrow transplant actually go on to develop AMN later in life. So although it's considered curative early, there are incidences of people developing AMN. So that would actually assist in the market for the adult population. I hope that makes sense.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you so much. And congrats on the progress.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Steven Seedhouse of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Steven Seedhouse

Analyst

Thanks for taking the question. Brian, you mentioned plans obviously for NASH, IND in 2019. I think the Street at this point is cognizant of – some of the ongoing long-term preclinical toxicology studies for 2809 being a gating factor for that NASH trial. Just curious if you're going to announce or present those preclinical data once they're analyzed and update the Street on the status of that and any subsequent FDA meeting?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes. Steve, thanks for the question. So probably not. Companies typically don't announce their GLP doc studies. I mean, the whole goal of those studies is to generate a toxicity signal. So people just don't publish that, announced that, so unlikely I think the next steps here would be to file the IND and proceed forward.

Steven Seedhouse

Analyst

Okay. So the IND filing I guess is the [indiscernible] detail I guess that we will be looking for. That's helpful. And then just – I mean, could you just remind us why those animal toxicology studies, why they hadn't been conducted prior to this year? And did it have to do with switching of indications to NASH for 2809 and those studies just not being required for the previous indication?

Brian Lian

Analyst

No, no. To be totally honest, we couldn't afford them. So we have always been somewhat capital constrained and as soon as we had the sufficient funding to move forward with them, we got them underway. But it was difficult with a balance sheet, does thin as it was for so long with us to plan out studies that may or may not have been completable with the runway. So that's the answer.

Steven Seedhouse

Analyst

Got it. Okay, that’s pretty clear. And just lastly, so you mentioned on the last – on the call that you had following your Phase II data, obviously you're presenting those data AASLD, we're all looking forward. To that presentation, but you had mentioned another abstract that you submitted a describing the liver safe – the aggregate liver safety data for 2809. It looks like that that didn't end up in the late-breaker line up. I'm just curious if you have plans to present or announced those data elsewhere, sort of near-term either at Investor conferences, maybe early next year or a Medical meeting, or if not, are you able to share any of – just key conclusions or take homes that otherwise might have been presented at the meeting that are now?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes. Yes, so liver safety be in the presentation on Monday. But this was a sort of a comprehensive look at all of the multiple dose studies at VK2809. And so we had hoped that it would have been accepted, but it doesn't it doesn't necessarily fall under the description of a late-breaker. So I think had we submitted it under the normal timeframe, might have been a different response. But I don't know, I think the idea there might be to submit it for Easel. And that that submission deadline is toward the end of November.

Steven Seedhouse

Analyst

Okay, great. Looking forward to the presentation in a couple of days here. Thanks.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Okay. Thanks Steve.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Joe Pantginis of H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Joseph Pantginis

Analyst

Hi, all. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking the question. Brian, just wondering, I know you had mentioned on the last quarterly call or even not think it was the 2809 call that you might provide a further details or the results of the Type C meetings. So I'm just curious if you can provide any of the answers that the FDA provided to you guys. I know you were looking at potential composite endpoints, various structural or functional types of endpoints, quality of life, et cetera. So can you provide any of the answers?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes. It's a great question, Joe. We haven't provided a lot of information. We are providing all of that to the parties that are interested in learning that information. But there were no real surprises in the FDA feedback. In a perfect world, I think muscle mass would have been an approvable endpoint for Phase III. But we had always expected that was a long shot and that the FDA was likely to require something along the lines-of-function and quality-of-life, patient-reported outcomes, and that's really a sort of the global feedback. It was a more that to proceed and hip function and quality of life would probably be the more important endpoints and muscle would be an important surrogate, but not necessarily an approvable endpoint, so no surprises, but, anyway, yes.

Joseph Pantginis

Analyst

Got it. That's fair. Thank you. And then just quickly for 0214, what are some of the remaining gating factors with regard to ongoing IND enabling studies to get to the filing?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes, so we're working on the formulation there. We're working on the 28-day talks and then all of the other reproductive – all the other stuff that goes into the IND. So, all ongoing today, but it’s a lot of work, all invisible pretty much, but a lot of work, right.

Joseph Pantginis

Analyst

Right, great. Thanks, Brian.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes, thanks Joe.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Andy Hsieh of William Blair. Please go ahead.

Andy Hsieh

Analyst

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just one following up on Steve's question earlier. I think before you kind of frame the extra poster presentation in terms of safety as a presentation on the panel review. So the way that I understand it is – there's a panel outside of DSMB made evolve liver experts you kind of adjudicate all the safety events? Is that I'm going to be a part of the oral presentation or is that part will be completely reserved for the Easel presentation next year.

Brian Lian

Analyst

So I'm not sure. It's a good question. Thanks again, I don't know that we ever characterized it as a poster to adjudicate liver safety. It was a comprehensive view of prior studies. It is a comprehensive review of prior studies. During the run up to the data presentation, we did convene a panel of NASH and a drug induced liver injury experts to walk through all of the Phase II data, but this poster included not only the Phase II data, but also the 14 day data and any prior multiple dose study. So I'm sorry if I that was a miss communicated certainly wasn't at a poster written by the panel not at all. It was asked one of the panelists actually was a coauthor on it though. But we would plan to submit that for Easel.

Andy Hsieh

Analyst

Gotcha. Yes, the apologies for my confusion. So related to that, regarding the IND for 2809, I believe on the last call you talked about the two tox studies, one in rodent and then one in primate. So is the rodent study almost completed? I'm just trying to get a sense of, what's completed, what's not and in terms of the more refined timing.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes. So both the six-month primate, rodent studies are going to be completed this quarter and we would likely receive the audited study reports sometime late first quarter, early second quarter. That's kind of the broad timing there.

Andy Hsieh

Analyst

Great. Okay. Well congratulations again and all. I guess I'll see you on Monday.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Yale Jen of Laidlaw and Company. Please go ahead.

Yale Jen

Analyst

Good afternoon, Brian. Thanks for taking the questions. I'm not going to steel a lot of thunder for the AASLD presentation. But could you talk a little bit about the favorable context of the data to be presented at that meeting later this month?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Thanks Yale. Did you say the framework of the data?

Yale Jen

Analyst

Probably would be – there is a lot of topline data have been presented earlier at these press release, so what other sort of additional aspect we should be looking into at a presentation one to anticipate to be there?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes, sure. So the primary endpoint data haven't been detailed previously. The lipid changes haven't been detailed previously. And then the AE profile hasn't really been detailed, so we'll have some more information on those. But it is a pretty short presentation, 15 minutes total. But they are pretty typical for Phase II oral presentation.

Yale Jen

Analyst

Okay. That's very helpful. And I know you are not going to provide a lot of details regarding the meetings – the FDA meetings regarding 5211, but you’ll also talk about composite endpoint. Is there additional sort of colors you can share regarding the endpoint or the prosperity be included in this composite endpoint or aspect to be included in the endpoint?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes. Well, it's kind of going back to my earlier answer. We did receive some feedback, but the FDA never gives you a detailed recipe for approval in these sorts of communications. They did suggest that function and quality of life were more important for registration than simply muscle. But there was no – well we're not going to provide a lot more detail and communication there. But generally the FDA does not provide specific endpoints in this sort of setting. You would have to propose then the trial and come back to them. But if a function and quality of life seem to be the umbrella areas that they're most interested in.

Yale Jen

Analyst

And I assume that what sort of expectation to eventually having a partner – you would like to have the partner also to have a greatest thing in terms of – in the next discussion with agencies. So ultimately it will be a better collaboration in that regard. Would that be fair?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes, I think we would let the partner a design the study, but we've certainly used what we know about the molecule to assist in that design along with the FDA feedback. But I think the partner would probably drive the process.

Yale Jen

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. And I look forward to the presentation later on.

Brian Lian

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Caroline Palomeque of Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Caroline Palomeque

Analyst

Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on all the progress so far. Just wondering with a lot of programs sitting in the clinic in 2019, I was just wondering what the trends might look like in R&D expense, because I think in the past you'd said that you expect them to remain flat, but just wondering what we might be – how you might be seeing R&D in the next year or so?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Yes. So we expect it to be pretty consistent over the next two to three quarters and then begin to tick up the second half of next year. I'll let Mike for any additional color there yet.

Michael Morneau

Analyst

Yes, no that's fair. Over the first – at least first half of the year is expect to be consistent and then after that we’ll start to see some uptick.

Caroline Palomeque

Analyst

Okay, great. And then just a quick follow-up on the 2809, just wondering if you could add any more color on trial design or will you just announce the trial design when you do the IND in the first half of 2019? Will there be any kind of prior announcement?

Brian Lian

Analyst

Well, I think as soon as we get our heads around what the end points might look like in both options and we're thinking about a Phase IIb is a standalone, which is very traditional. You'd have a biopsy confirmed endpoint after nine months or 12 months or a Phase II/III where you may have some early interim that allows you to narrow dose and proceed from there. And that's a much complicated design that we have not worked out all of the details that we're focused on understanding that right now. So I think as soon as we have a good view of the pros and cons of both approaches that we would communicate what the next steps are.

Caroline Palomeque

Analyst

Great. That's helpful. Thanks Brian. Thanks, Caroline. End of Q&A

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Stephanie Diaz for any closing remarks.

Stephanie Diaz

Analyst

Thank you again for your participation and continued support of Viking Therapeutics. We look forward to updating you again in the coming month. Have a great afternoon. Bye-Bye.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.