Douglas Cifu
Analyst · Ken Worthington with JP Morgan. Your line is open
Yes, we were up as compared to the fourth quarter about 44%. And again it's a great question, Ken, because commodities by definition is a very, very broad category, so it includes everything from corn sugar, cocoa and cotton to gold and silver to natural gas, gas oil, crude, I could go on and on, right, anything that kind of comes out of the ground or from a livestock or whatnot is included in that category. I would say the one sub-asset or subclass, if you will - and you guys know this very well, that continues to be a challenge is natural gas. That's really a factor, if you will, of lack of price movement and volatility and it's become a very, very obviously low price sub-asset class, if you will. Lot of the assets - I'm not a natural gas expert, but you guys get it, fracking and oversupply and what-not and all of that kind of stuff. And so as a result, that continues to be a sub-asset class within this asset class that has not performed as well as it certainly did last year or frankly the couple of years before that as natural gas prices were tumbling. I think the other thing is we did very well in crude during the quarter, but as the price of crude goes down, you have to imagine that the capture rate product goes down as well, right, because the notional size, notional volume of what's being transacted will naturally compress. So, look, overall I was very happy with the quarter. We were up, as I said, according to what Joe was showing, we hear about 44% from Q4, and if you look at the indexes, the CME contracts were up around like 17%-ish, CME and ICE in crude and what-not. So I think as a comparison basis, I'm pretty happy with where we ended up. But again it’s a broad category. For competitive reasons, we are not going to sit there and say here is what we did in soft, here is what we do in metals, here is what we do in the various energy products. So by definition, it's going to be a little vague and lumpy, but overall I was pretty pleased with how we performed.