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Q2 2010 Earnings Call· Fri, Jul 23, 2010

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone. And welcome to Ensco plc's second quarter earnings for 2010 conference call. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and your participation constitutes consent to its taping. I will now turn this conference call over to Mr. Sean O'Neill, Vice President of Investor Relations who will moderate the call. Please go ahead, sir.

Sean O'Neill

President

Thank you, operator. And welcome everyone to Ensco's second quarter 2010 conference call. With me today are Dan Rabun, CEO; Bill Chadwick, our Chief Operating Officer; Jay Swent, CFO, as well as, other members of our executive management team. We issued our earnings release which is available on our newly designed website at www.enscoplc.com. Later today, we plan to file our SEC Form 10-Q. As usual, we will keep our call to one hour. Any comments we make about expectations or forward-looking statements and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Many factors could cause actual results to differ materially. Please prefer to our earnings release and SEC filings on our website that define forward-looking statements and list risk factors and other events that could impact future results. Also, please note that the company undertakes no duty to update forward-looking statements. As a reminder, our most recent fleet status report was issued on July 16th. Now, let me turn it over to Dan Rabun, Chairman and CEO.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Thanks, Sean, and welcome everyone. Understandably, events in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico are being closely watched by industry participants and investors alike. And I will address our Gulf of Mexico operations in a moment. As I've told our employees, though, it's important to remember that Ensco operates a global business with customers in most of the major oil and gas markets around the world and we need to remain focused on fulfilling our customers' global drilling needs. Geographic diversity is a key strength of Ensco and I'm pleased to report that our crews around the world are doing an excellent job. Critically important, we continue to achieve very high safety standards with a total recordable incident rate through mid-year that is on par with our record results in 2010. You may recall on our third quarter earnings call last year I spoke extensively about the importance of safety. At the time, it may have been considered a minor issue to the investment community. But I wanted to emphasize that safety is a critical part of what we do every day at Ensco and the foundation for any success we have as an organization. I mention that safety is not only the right thing to do but also directly tied to operational performance and customer satisfaction. We have dedicated significant resources to the training and development of our employees on both safety and operational excellence. And 31 of our offshore positions have been accredited by IADC more than any other driller. Our investments in training are evident not only in our strong safety record but also in independent customer service scores where we ranked number one for performance and reliability. In the second quarter utilization of our rigs was quite good given the current market conditions, 91% for deepwater and…

Jay Swent

CFO

Thanks, Dan. Before I begin my detailed discussion of Ensco's financial results, I would like to review a few highlights from the second quarter. First, it is worth repeating that in April, Ensco's Board of Directors approved a large increase to our quarterly dividend to $1.40 per share on an annual basis from $0.10 a share previously. This decision was based in part on feedback we received from shareholders as well as factors such as our strong cash position, conservative leverage ratio, substantial backlog and positive cash flow projections relative to future capital commitments for our ultra deepwater new build program. The first quarterly dividend payment at the higher rig was made on June 18th. Management and the Board believe that this dividend level is prudent and sustainable, and gives us adequate flexibility to make additional investments in our fleet and/or return additional capital back to shareholders. In July, for example, we purchased ENSCO 109, an ultra high-spec, Keppel FELS, MOD V, Super B jackup for $186 million including spares and other inventory related to the rig. The average day rate for all rigs of this design in the market is about $150,000 and we anticipate favorable returns over the life of the rig given its unique ability to handle deep-gas drilling. We also made a partial tender offer for Scorpion Offshore during the quarter that we ultimately terminated. As noted in the news release, we earned a substantial breakup fee for our brief involvement in the tender process. Finally, we doubled the size of our revolving credit facility to $700 million during the second quarter, giving us greater flexibility to pursue our strategic plans. We also secured a four-year term highlighting the wide support of our banking group and confidence at Ensco's financial position. The rest of my comments…

Sean O'Neill

President

Okay, operator, if you could please now open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) And first we go to Dan Boyd with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Dan Boyd – Goldman Sachs: Hi. Thanks. Good morning, guys.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Good morning. Dan Boyd – Goldman Sachs:

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Okay. Great. Dan, before I answer that question, I just want to make a couple of additional comments. One of the, one of the things Jay mentioned in his script is that there's a lot of moving parts in there and they continue to move fairly quickly. While we have been on the phone, we've been informed that ENSCO 8500 now has its drilling permit and is returning to drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. We're very pleased that our two rigs that are operating in the Gulf of Mexico are the only two rigs that we're aware of that have recertified under the new NTL-05 and are working again for our customers, so another piece of good news for our deep-water group. The second comment I wanted to make and I'm sorry I didn't have it in my prepared remarks, is just to introduce a couple of folks that are new to our executive management team. Mike Wylie, who became Vice President of HR; and John Knowlton, who ran our North and South America Business Unit, is now our Vice President of Engineering and Capital Projects. Getting back to your question, Dan, the – we said in our remarks, pretty much in every market including the U.S. Gulf of Mexico there is a fairly robust new tendering activity for jackups outside of the Middle East, I would say which is probably the market that has continued to be a challenge. But pretty much across every market around the world we've seen a fairly nice increase over the last few quarters quite frankly, of jackup tendering activity and we think that's going to continue. Dan Boyd – Goldman Sachs: Is there any aspect of this that's, while that's you're clearly playing offense, you're playing defense a little where you're seeing, does seem like some of these lower spec rigs, especially in the Middle East, are having a tougher time finding work. Are you optimistic? I think you have three available currently or are you looking at high spec rigs because you're making more of that secular call that those will be replaced by, as people go for deeper zones, I guess?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Yeah. I mean, Dan, you're well aware of what our strategy has been for a long time and we've been in a continuous state of evolution over the 20 years of this company, migrating our fleet. So, it's just a continuation of that and quite frankly there have been some actionable opportunities which haven't been actionable for a period of time. So I think we've been talking about M&A for a long period of time and quite frankly, there just hasn't been a whole lot of things actionable and certain things have kind of moved into the marketplace. So we took the opportunity to try to acquire some of these assets.

Jay Swent

CFO

As we've said, Dan, to investors a number of times, unfortunately, you can't just call up your rig broker and say I'd like to sell 10 old assets and buy 10 new assets. So you've seen us over the last couple of quarters, sell some of the older assets where we had opportunities to sell them into geographies that we didn't think we'd find them coming back and competing against us in and we recently had the opportunity to acquire ENSCO 109. But as Dan said, it's all part of a high grading strategy that will take place over a period of time and I think, as you well know, I mean, the utilization rate for the higher spec jackups is much higher than it is for the older jackups. So, I think that speaks volumes to where the future of the drilling business is going to be relative to jackups. Dan Boyd – Goldman Sachs: Yeah. I think that answers the question then. Okay. Thanks.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

And next we'll go to Geoff Kieburtz with Weeden. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Thanks very much. I was actually going to ask a question about accounting related to force majeure, but your comment, Dan, has kind of made the question irrelevant. Can you just maybe expand a little bit on this news you just shared with us about the 8500 going back to work? It is, obviously, doing something that's accepted in the framework of the moratorium?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Yeah, let me ask Carey Lowe, who's our Senior VP for Deep Water who has the most up to date knowledge to comment on that.

Carey Lowe

Management

There's a number of well operations that are permitted under the current suspension moratorium. NPLs and we went through a process of recertifying BOPs, per NCL-05 which is the NCL concerning equipment. And we've been able to do this because we have the latest generation of BOPs and very good documentation on them. We were the first two. Our clients were the first two companies to receive permits under the new permitting rules. They're the only ones that have been issued so far as far as we know for deepwater rigs. I'm talking about deepwater rigs. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Sure.

Carey Lowe

Management

It's a different story for jackups and we're very confident about the other 8500 series rigs. They have the same BOPs and we have the same manufacturer for each of them. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Okay. And I guess, should we be expecting, nobody knows how long this moratorium is going to last. But are we going to be going here in steps where you finish the work under this permit and then the customer declares force majeure again until they get the next permit? Is this going to kind of how do you think this is going to work or does this permit then kind of fulfill the remainder of the contract on the 8500?

Carey Lowe

Management

The permitting issue is really subject to the client and the operations that they have. You know, it's hard to say. I mean, we don't want to predict anything like that. But what we do know is that our rigs meet the requirements of NPL-05, which is a very stringent requirement and we'll see how it goes forward. As Dan and Jay have said, it's a moving target with a lot of moving pieces. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Okay. Maybe I could clarify the question a little bit. The – how long do you think the work will continue under the permit that's just been issued for the 8500?

Carey Lowe

Management

Let me answer the question this way because the customers have told us that they have sufficient amount of work that is permitted by the moratorium/suspension. So we fully anticipate that they'll proceed with permitting and they'll get them as they come due. So, and they got – they've now got the first two, I assume the customers now have a better understanding of how to comply with the rules. And so we're cautiously optimistic that they'll get permits for the remainder of the work. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: So for the time being, it looks like force majeure is kind of a non-issue for Ensco. Is that – I don't want to be too bold, but is that a fair sort of assumption to take?

Jay Swent

CFO

I don't think, Geoff, I would be quite that bold. I think, as we said, it's a function in the near-term of getting permits and in the longer term of getting permits. But I think we've said in our prepared remarks that the outlook is our best guess of how all the different moving pieces are likely to turn out and there's obviously a lot of variability in what can happen, as we said. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Okay. Well, I think – sorry, go ahead.

Carey Lowe

Management

I think we can say that the clients are starting to prepare additional permits for approval. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Okay. And just to be clear though, during the period in which force majeure, if it were to be declared, you would continue to recognize revenue?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Well, we would have to make an assumption about what the probability of collecting that revenue would be. And I think right now, we feel like our contracts provide a substantial amount of protection. So it's easy pretty to calculate what the contract says. Geoff Kieburtz – Weeden: Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The following question comes from Ian MacPherson with Simmons & Company. Ian MacPherson – Simmons & Company: Hi. Thanks. I'm sorry if I missed this in the prior response. Can you say what type of activity is allowed and being prosecuted? That's one question. Clarify also both the 8500 and 8501 have been re-permitted, clarify that? And then a third question is just with regard to what you're doing in the shipyard with the 7500? I assume it's going to Singapore. What type of work are you doing, is it just SPS or is it an upgrade and if you can comment on the prospects for early ‘11 for the 7500 I'd appreciate this as well? Thanks.

Carey Lowe

Management

Okay. This is Carey Lowe. There's a number of type of well activities that are permitted under the moratorium suspension NPLs. Completions, plug-in abandonments, some re-entry type things and those are the types of activities that we're doing right now. I can't confirm that the 8500 and 8501 are working under current permits and your question about ENSCO 7500. You've got 120 to 150 day shipyard in Singapore planned. It's a combination of a number of things. Some SPF type stuff and upgrades of a number of pieces of equipment, life extension of some and so on. Ian MacPherson – Simmons & Company: Can you comment on contract prospects?

Carey Lowe

Management

At this time, we're getting the regular number places. We've recently submitted a tender for ENSCO 7500 for continuing work that would take place after the shipyard period. So it's – don't want to go into specific prospects but there is bidding activity that we're participating in. Ian MacPherson – Simmons & Company: Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next we'll go to Jud Bailey with Jefferies & Company. Jud Bailey – Jefferies & Company: Thanks. Good morning. A couple of follow-ups on the jackup market. First, the North Sea, it sounds like for 2011 we're starting to see a little bit of incremental activity. Could you maybe talk a little bit about that market and what you're seeing for prospects like this year and next year in terms of jackup demand?

Mark Burns

Management

Yes, Jud. This is Mark Burns. As you know, the North Sea essentially remains two markets at the time. You've got the standard duty rig market in the Southern North Sea which is continues to be driven by natural gas prices. And in the last part of 2010, we're starting to see some programs coming up, some tendering activity increase. We're also starting to see some activity in 2011. Some longer term programs which will take some of these standard duty rigs out of idle mode and further tighten that up. Another point, Jud, is during the summer, the price of natural gas in the Southern North Sea has averaged around $6, a little over $6 to $6.50 in Mcf. So, so all of that is boding well for the stabilization of the standard duty jackup market. In the Central North Sea, in Norway and areas like that which require a heavier duty jackups, again that market is essentially fully utilized, Jud, as you know. There is some long-term work coming up over the next couple of years that we're taking a look at, so we think we will see continuing improvement in the North Sea over the next year. Jud Bailey – Jefferies & Company: Okay. Thanks Mark. And just to clarify the long-term programs you're referring to, you believe those are probably incremental demands on top of what's working today?

Mark Burns

Management

Yes. That's correct, Jud. Jud Bailey – Jefferies & Company: Okay. And my follow up is, if you could comment maybe Dan, on the Saudi tenders you expect to come out of Saudi Arabia. Maybe timing on when they could be looking at rigs to start and would the new – the ENSCO 109 be appropriate for the work they would be looking for?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Jud, that's more theory of operations, Bill, so I'm going to let them answer that.

Bill Chadwick

Management

Yes, Jud. First of all, our first question of the call, we're excited about the acquisition of the ENSCO 109. It further enhances our fleet in terms of age and operating capability. It's a Keppel FELS, MOD V, super B design and we have five MOD V Bs already in our fleet, plus two MOD V As. So first of all, we're excited about that and the opportunities that we will have with that unit. As far as Saudi Aramco, yes, we do expect additional heavy duty rigs to be contracted there within the next few months, talking about potentially two separate programs. If you recall, there's an existing tender that's been in place but no awards have been announced yet and potentially, a second one later in the year for heavier duty rigs. As far as ENSCO 109, we're going to certainly look at it, and certainly a rig of that type and design and capability would fit in perfect with what Aramco's needs are there in Saudi Arabia. Jud Bailey – Jefferies & Company: Okay. And for the next tenders that come out. Would those be starting I assume at some point early to mid-2011? Is that fair to think about?

Bill Chadwick

Management

Yes. That's fair to say, Jud. They would be startups in 2011, yes. Jud Bailey – Jefferies & Company: Okay. Great. That's all I've got. Thank you.

Bill Chadwick

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Mike Urban – Deutsche Bank: Thanks. Good afternoon. The – you talked about two markets for jackups in the North Sea and I would argue we've rarely seen that kind of scenario globally, where you've got great demand utilization and starting to see pricing in the high spec market. Historically, as those higher spec rigs have started to go up in price, obviously there's a tradeoff between capability and price and as a result at some point you start to see that demand start to move down to the standard market. One, is that a dynamic you'd expect to play out at some point? And two, when might you see that happening just given the pickup in tendering that seems to be out there?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Well, general comment, we see nothing different about this market than all the other cycles. So we would expect that – what you described to occur. The timing of which, I really couldn't predict the timing. But usually what you see when you get utilizations north of about 80%, 85% is when you start seeing pricing momentum and in all the segments of the jackup business. Mike Urban – Deutsche Bank: Okay. Thank you. And the – actually, I think that was it for me. Thank you.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Okay.

Operator

Operator

We'll take the next question from Roger Read with Natixis. Roger Read – Natixis: Yeah. Good morning. I guess, as you look at the deepwater rigs, you commented how you've got 8500, 8501 essentially recertified. Any work or anything you think has to be done on your jackup fleet, I know it's deep water moratorium, that's where all the issues are? But are you seeing anything you may have to do to recertify on that front?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Bill, you want to answer that?

Bill Chadwick

Management

Roger, this is Bill Chadwick. All of our jackups in U.S. waters with the exception of one, are currently working on permitted wells which means that their recertification has been approved by the BOEM under NCL number 5. We have one jackup which is not currently actively at work pending approval of a permit by a prospective client. So again, what we believe all of our jackups are currently either recertified or in one case, capable of being recertified as such time as the customer wants to submit an otherwise qualified permit. Roger Read – Natixis: Okay. And then the other question I had unrelated to that, but as, obviously we've seen some movement on the M&A side, your efforts on Scorpion. And Jay, you made a comment earlier, it's tough to buy and sell these things when you want. But if you were to compare the market today to, say, over the last six to 12 months in terms of the not just the number or availability of the rigs for sale, but also sort of the bid ad spread, could you give us an idea of what's been transitions there?

Jay Swent

CFO

Well, I think we've made the point a couple of times, Roger, that a lot of us were sitting around waiting for these rigs to collapse in value as people got into financial difficulties and what we've all seen is that that has not happened. That the few that have traded, of the new builds that have traded hands, have traded at pretty high prices. So I think that has continued and I don't think we've seen any weakness. And obviously, we just paid a fair amount of money for ENSCO 109. I think that – what we paid reflects where the market really is for those rigs. And I think the reason for that quite frankly is that a lot of people are waking up to the fact that the newer, bigger, more capable rigs are what you're going to need for the future and we can get by without them for today and for the next year. But if you look down the road five years from now, I think most people will look back on what we've been doing the last several quarters and say, the move to sell older jackups and replace them with newer jackups makes a lot of sense. So I think to say that, I think your basic question, the market has not changed very much. There's still very few rigs that are in the market, of the high spec jackups that are really in the market for sale and I don't think you're going to see any of those go at bargain basement prices at all. Roger Read – Natixis: Okay. Thank you.

Jay Swent

CFO

Thanks, Roger.

Operator

Operator

Waqar Syed with Macquarie Capital has the next question. Waqar Syed – Macquarie Capital: Good morning. Your rig under construction rig 8054 becomes available in the second half of 2011. At what point do you start to – would really want the rig to have a contract in hand? You mentioned there's some slow – tendering has slowed down a little bit. But at what point do you say, well, we may be willing to take a haircut and lock up the rig?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Well, I don't think we're there yet. It's still got some time before it's delivered and I don't want to be specific on something like what we're going to bid or when we might lower our desired day rates. Waqar Syed – Macquarie Capital: Okay. But typically…

Dan Rabun

Chairman

For that rig delivered so obviously we're not there yet. Waqar Syed – Macquarie Capital: Sure. But six months ahead, is that typically a good time to, if the rig doesn't have a contract, six months before it comes out of the shipyard, is that when typically contractors start to feel the contractors start to feel the pain or?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Yeah. Do you have another one? Waqar Syed – Macquarie Capital: All right. You know, you can dig it up.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

I can comment all the time, I mean, it could be tomorrow, you never know. Waqar Syed – Macquarie Capital: Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Now we'll go to Arun Jayaram with Credit Suisse. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Good afternoon gentlemen. Jay, I just…

Jay Swent

CFO

Good afternoon. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: … wanted to clarify your sequential revenue guidance for Q3 versus Q2. I believe you mentioned that you anticipated revenues to be up 2% sequentially, is that correct?

Jay Swent

CFO

That's right. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: And I just wanted to clarify, does the fact that you received a permit on ENSCO 85 cause you to change that guidance and perhaps what your expectations are for ENSCO 8502? Do you expect to start, does that guidance suggest that you can start recognizing revenue in August?

Jay Swent

CFO

There's really no change in the guidance. We were anticipating that we would get that permit when we put the outlook together. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Okay. And then in terms of – does the guidance assume that you start recognizing revenue in 8502 in August? I know that's a potential force majeure from next and that's why given the inability to accept the rig, potentially.

Jay Swent

CFO

Arun, I'd love to give you lots of detailed descriptions on this. But I think we really have to stick with what we said before which is there's just lots of moving pieces on this. I can give you little hints about things. But I don't think we're going to serve you well by that. I think you'll just have to look at our overall guidance as our best guess of how things are going to turn out. And as a segment we've made some assumptions about getting better or getting worse versus where they are right now. Those are all blended in there and what you have is our most balanced outlook of how we think things are going to turn out. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Fair enough. Your guys do give very good guidance. No question about that. My follow-up…

Jay Swent

CFO

We don't usually have to deal with a situation like we're in right now. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Fair enough. Just a quick question. Obviously, the ENSCO 8500 is a new design. Can you give us a sense of where you think the BOPs could potentially stack to all the potential changes there? Do you think that you would have a retrofit some of these BOPs or not, given the potential changes?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Well, Carey covered that a bit in his comments but it's probably worth him going through a little more detail for you because I think we've got a really good story there.

Carey Lowe

Management

Yeah. Arun, all of our rigs actually have six ramps on the BOPs, which is considered to be I'd say a gold standard right now. And every one of the 8500 series has the same design and same manufacturer, which gives us a great advantage for any new requirements that do come up. There are many proposals out there and there's strap clause being discussed. It's too soon to speculate what requirements will come up and how they'll be implemented. What we do believe is that new requirements will have an implementation period that recognizes the time necessary for engineering, manufacturing and installation of any new equipments and we've been working with our manufacturer since shortly after this incident, discussing possible what ifs. So I just can't tell you what's going to happen. And it doesn't, what we do believe is that the changes we're hearing about right now, we'll have some implementation time. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: It sounds like you're…

Dan Rabun

Chairman

I would follow-up on that. So I think all of us that have just recently built the rigs with the most recent BOP equipment probably will have an advantage over older equipment. And the fact that we've been able to recertify, we are the only persons been able to have the BOPs recertified under the existing regulatory requirements probably bodes well for us.

Carey Lowe

Management

Yeah. Just little financial commentary there too, Arun. All of our existing contracts have changes in law and regulations provisions though to the extent that there's money required to upgrade these BOPs, a lot of that will be recoverable under our existing contracts. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Well…

Carey Lowe

Management

And last point I would make on that is just that we've done as we've said. We've recertified all the BOPs on our jackups, we've recertified the ones on the deepwater rigs. And you didn't see a huge amount of money in our contract drilling expense for that this quarter. We managed to do that very cost effectively. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: You guys don't leave many stones unturned. That's been my history with you guys. And last question would be regarding, Dan, the lawsuit you guys have filed regarding the validity of the moratorium. Can you give us what your end game is with that and walk us through the thought process in deciding to file the lawsuit?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Sure. First of all, I'm sure you've looked at the petition. We think that the moratorium is not appropriate. And the judge has already ruled once in the Hornbeck case that that is in fact the case and we agree with Hornbeck on that. We are very concerned about the issue, first of all, we are not concerned about regulatory requirements, you heard our remarks. Our safety culture, I think, is second to none. So this is not about not complying with laws and not having safety standards removed. What we are concerned about the process by which this is occurring. The government seems to be issuing regulations that are not in accordance with how we think regulations should be issued and then issuing regulations that are very difficult to comply with. So, if the government wants to issue additional regulations, they should follow the appropriate regulatory process and have notice and comment, and that is not what has occurred in our belief. So the end game, if you will, is to try and get the government to comply with their own rules in issuing further safety requirements. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Fair enough, Dan. You're not going to be able to leave your law background behind you? Thanks, again.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Arun, I really wish. You can't imagine how I wish I could leave my law background behind me. Arun Jayaram – Credit Suisse: Yeah. All right. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And now we'll go to Scott Gruber with Sanford Bernstein. Scott Gruber – Sanford Bernstein: Yes. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I wanted to come back to the jackup bifurcation theme. Is the bifurcation phenomenon more of a preference for high spec rigs by the EMP since more are available or is there a real requirement today based upon changing reservoir target, in Mexico, it clearly seems that there was more of a preference. But in the U.S. and the Middle East there's clearly a demand for real high spec units drilled at deep-gas prospects. So there's clearly some of both out there in today's market. But as you look out across the globe, on balance, where do you see it? Is it more on the preference side or more on the requirement side today?

Jay Swent

CFO

I think we're going to let Mark Burns answer most of that question. But, I would say there is element of both of that. And when all of these new build rigs first came into the market, a lot of people said, what I'd really like the new rig as opposed to an older rig. And there is some belief, I think, in the market that the newer rigs will be more reliable than the older rigs, is one issue. So some people, even though they haven't needed the capability, have shown a preference for newer rigs based on just reliability. I think the point I was making a little bit earlier, looking to the long-term is people's requirements overtime are going to become more and more demanding as they have over our history. And that's going to lead to not wanting those rigs but needing those rigs. I'm going to let Mark give a little more color on the regional view of that.

Mark Burns

Management

Yeah. Scott, I'll just add a couple of points to what Jay was saying. He's exactly right. If you look at previous cycles that we've been through in this industry over the past 20, 25 years, as drilling markets tend to weaken in some areas, you'll always have a preference for newer equipment. Your smaller jackup will usually be the first ones to go idle and your older equipment or bigger equipment will continue to work, and we're starting to see – we're seeing that. So, as we've seen this request for higher spec rigs, there's been jackup, new bill program that's been going on now the last three or four years. So there's been a number of these new build heavy duty jackups delivered. Obviously, customers like newer equipment at some point and plus, there's been enough capacity in the market where they can be more selective in their bigger and newer equipment. Second point is, yes, you're exactly right. Well designs are getting larger. Heavier hook loads, longer strings of casing, that type of thing. Geologic targets are getting greater in certain areas such as the Middle East, the deep-gas there. So there is a good bit of that but I think as the industry and markets begin to recover, we'll start to see that the rigs that have worked successfully in the past continue to work successfully again. So I hope that answers your question. Scott Gruber – Sanford Bernstein: That's certainly good color. Where does Southeast Asia stand today? I feel like I have a good grasp of the Atlantic Basin and the Middle East, but Southeast Asia there's obviously a fair number of the new builds working there today just based upon its proximity to the shipyards. Where does deep-gas drilling activity stand today in Southeast Asia and what's the prospect over the next three to five years?

Mark Burns

Management

Well, I think, certainly the demand and the activity level of jackups in Southeast Asia has remained quite stable and robust. Today we're still seeing a high level of inquiries, a high level of tenders in that area. There was a long in drilling in Indonesia about eighteen months ago and operators quit drilling and now we're starting to see more programs being awarded there. In Malaysia, we're starting to see deeper gas being drilled by some existing customers there. Brunei is another area and also Vietnam. We're starting to see a considerable amount of activity in that area. So with all of that, it bodes well for continuing strong activity in Southeast Asia. And we will see some deeper deep-gas drilling, particularly I think in Brunei and Malaysia over the next year or so. Scott Gruber – Sanford Bernstein: Okay. Again, good color. Thanks, I'll turn it back.

Mark Burns

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we have time for one more question. We'll take that from Collin Gerry with Raymond James. Collin Gerry – Raymond James: Hi. Good morning. Seems like a pretty interesting development here with the 8500. Carey, I want to ask a follow-up on that. You've mentioned recertification of the BOP a couple of times. What does that actually mean practically speaking? Who does that? How long does it take? What steps are involved to actually recertify a BOP?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Well, someone asked a question about our lawsuit, right. When the government puts out regulations that say you need to certify your BOP and that's what the regulation says, your question is very apropos. How do you do that? Collin Gerry – Raymond James: That's what I don't understand. I don't know what that means?

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Well, that's what we said when we saw the regulations. I'll let Carey answer the question for you.

Carey Lowe

Management

How do you follow that? You know there's, as Dan mentioned, there really is no prescribed methodology. There are some commonalities that people are using, which is third party certification. How deep you go into the history and the equipment is so far not consistent. But it does take time and it helps that you have a relatively new and consistent process for your equipment. You have the certification pretty much in hand already. But it does take time and there is no set methodology right now.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Let me just make one additional comment. Because there were no regulatory guidelines for what that meant, our deep-water group was very proactive in coming up with a methodology to certify working with third party vendors and we have provided that information to our customers who used it to obtain their permits. So whatever the process that we worked out is – seems to be a process that's working. But it may or may not be the same process anybody else is following. Collin Gerry – Raymond James: Okay.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Absolutely no guidance. Collin Gerry – Raymond James: So it seems to me it involves something about going back to the manufacturer and documenting things and submitting that to the BOEM. And some sort of, I mean, that's the basic outline and there's probably some more steps involved there?

Carey Lowe

Management

It's a very comprehensive procedure that we developed.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Yeah.

Carey Lowe

Management

Collin Gerry – Raymond James: Interesting. Last one for me, I just kind of want to clarify and maybe beat the dead horse a little bit more, on the new permit. Is there some sort of nuance associated with the permit as it relates to the type of drilling that you're doing? I know that there are some operations that are allowed and this seems to be a separate issue. I know, this is a new permit for a new well. So it's kind of just in the traditional sense of what we used to think of drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, it seems like this is the first step or first permit issued in that sense? Or is there some nuance to where it's a re-entry or some sort of development work or something along those lines?

Carey Lowe

Management

There are operations for deepwater works that is permitted under the moratorium suspension NTL and…

Dan Rabun

Chairman

I think to answer your question correctly, NTL-05 is more equipment specific and not drilling specific, it's operations specific.

Bill Chadwick

Management

NTL-05, that's what we are complying with in deepwater, NTL-05. NTL-06 would be a far different thing and it would depend on the geology, what you were doing.

Dan Rabun

Chairman

Okay everyone, thank you very much for joining us on our call today. We look forward to talking to you next time. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We do thank you for joining us.