John Geller
Analyst · Credit Suisse.
Yes. We feel great about the goals we laid out. Nothing has changed. Obviously, when you lay out any plan and you're given kind of 3 years, it's never necessarily a straight line, right? It's like that your growth each year, it's going to -- some years might be a little bit less, for example, this year, because we didn't necessarily have interest rates on the financing side, last June going is high, right? So not as much growth -- or really no growth when you look at our financing business this year, but we expect that will turn around over the time, and we'll get substantial growth as we go through there. So that's an example. But on the contract sales side, same thing. We continue -- and Tony talked about our G&A being a little bit higher. We're continuing to invest, right, in technologies that are going to help us drive contract sales growth, higher VPGs, efficiencies, marketing. And as we've talked about in the past, we partnered with Salesforce. And so the difference being a little bit because I know people ask about the higher G&A costs. The difference being is historically on the IT side, we were more of a build shop, meaning we built the IT, right? And therefore, under GAAP, you capitalized it and depreciated it, right? So that came out of your free cash flow in CapEx, if you will. As we've transformed the business over the last couple of years and you think about where we want to go, we want to partner and use more software as a service, like Salesforce. The difference from an accounting perspective is less of those costs from an IT perspective don't qualify for capitalization under GAAP. So because of that, right, you have slightly higher expense. But even if you go back to the Investor Day, what I'd point out is -- if you look at our CapEx spend, it's $90 million to $110 million a year over the 4-year period. And this year, right, and it's going to be lower. I mean, we're guiding $80 million to $90 million, right? So it's really a right -- left-hand, right-hand type thing in terms of -- it doesn't impact your cash flow per se, but the nuances of where it might run through are a little bit different. But with that and leveraging that type of technology, that's going to unlock the growth and create more opportunities going forward to get more efficient on the marketing and sales side and better target customers and drive those contract sales. So we're excited to move forward here. And I guess go back to answer the first part of your question, yes, we feel very good about the Investor Day numbers that we laid out back in June.