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Marriott Vacations Worldwide Corporation (VAC)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Sun, Aug 6, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to Marriott Vacations Worldwide Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host for today's call, Jeff Hansen, Vice President of Investor Relations. Jeff, you may begin.

Jeff Hansen

Analyst

Thank you, Rob, and welcome to the Marriott Vacations Worldwide Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. I am joined today by Steve Weisz, President and CEO; and John Geller, Executive Vice President and CFO. I do need to remind everyone that many of our comments today are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking statements under federal securities laws. These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties, as described in our SEC filings, which could cause future results to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by our comments. Forward-looking statements in the press release that we issued this morning, along with our comments on this call, are effective only today, August 3, 2017, and will not be updated as actual events unfold. Throughout the call, we will make references to non-GAAP financial information. You can find a reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures referred to in our remarks in the schedules attached to our press release as well as the Investor Relations page on our website at ir.mvwc.com. I will now turn the call over to Steve Weisz, President and CEO of Marriott Vacations Worldwide.

Steve Weisz

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us second quarter earnings call. This morning, I'll walk through our 2017 second quarter results, and I'm proud to report that it is our third quarter in a row delivering mid-teens contract sales growth. During the call, I'll provide an update on the drivers of this outstanding performance as well as my thoughts on how the second quarter has improved our outlook for the full year. I'll then hand the call over to John to provide a more detailed view of our results. In the second quarter, company contract sales grew almost $44 million or over 26% to nearly $210 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $78 million, up $14 million or 21% from the second quarter of 2016. As I touched on last quarter, with our change this year to a 12-month reporting calendar, the first 3 quarters will each include roughly one additional week of operating results, so our year-over-year growth will not be comparable as reported. Adjusting our prior year contract sales for the estimated impact of the additional week, contract sales were up over 18% versus the second quarter of 2016. This growth was driven by our North America segment, which, on the same adjusted basis, increased 22% in the quarter, including a 5.8% increase in VPG to $3,579. I am pleased with this performance on many levels, beginning with our ability to attract more first-time buyers as contract sales to these buyers improved 21% in the quarter. This highlights the success of not only our marketing programs, specifically our call transfer and Encore programs, but also our ability to tour more of our rental guests while they're staying at one of our resorts. And much like the first quarter, our closing efficiency continued to improve even…

John Geller

Analyst

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. I too am very pleased with our strong second quarter results. Adjusted EBITDA totaled $77.9 million, $13.7 million or 21% higher than the second quarter of 2016. In contract sales, after adjusting for the estimated impact of the financial reporting calendar change, we’re up over 18% to nearly $210 million. As expected, all lines of business contributed to our growth in the quarter. With our strong contract sales performance, development margin grew $7.1 million or 20.9%. Our resort management business grew 17.9% or $5.3 million. Our rental business improved by $4.3 million or 43.7%, and financing margin grew 12.5% or $2.5 million. For the second quarter, company-adjusted development margin increased $5.1 million or 15.5% to $38.2 million, and adjusted development margin percentage totaled 20.4% in the quarter. As a reminder, for the full year, we continue to expect company development margin percentage of 21% or higher. In our North America segment, adjusted development margin increased $5.8 million or 17.2% to $39.9 million in the second quarter, and our adjusted development margin percentage was 23.4%. The $5.8 million of adjusted development margin increase was driven primarily by $13.1 million from higher contract sales volumes, partially offset by $3.6 million from higher marketing and sales costs, of which $2.4 million related to the ramp-up of our new sales distributions. In addition, adjusted development margin was negatively impacted by $3.4 million of higher sales reserve activity, resulting solely from higher finance sales volumes compared to the prior year quarter. In our financing business, revenues were up $3.9 million or nearly 14% to $32.5 million in the second quarter of 2017. These results reflect $5.5 million from higher interest income from our growing notes receivable balance, partially offset by additional costs from our financing incentive program. Our…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Chris Agnew with MKM Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Chris Agnew

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for the color. I was interested to hear about the - you talked about the affiliation with six new hotels from Marriott's expanded portfolio. I'm assuming that's brands like Westin. So I'm just curious, in general how that program works. And then also, how does it relate to I think one of your competitor’s exclusive rights to a couple of their brands. And final related question, have you had discussions with Marriott International around plans for the Marriott rewards program going forward? And how do we think about the risks or opportunities as they pertain to you? Sorry, I packed a lot in there. Thanks.

Steve Weisz

Analyst

It's okay. It would be a run-on sentence though. Anyway, we have had linkage arrangements with Marriott hotels virtually throughout the existence of our company. And as Marriott has expanded its portfolio of properties through the acquisition of Starwood, we have taken advantage of that expansion by signing six new agreements. They're both Westin and Sheraton-branded. There are hotels in Waikiki and Waikoloa as well as in Hilton Head. And the way the linkage program works is that hotel guests that are staying in those properties, ideally, we have an opportunity to interact with them during the course of their stay, offer them an opportunity to come hear about our product, take a tour. And if everything works well, we make a sale. That's generally how linkage program works. And as I mentioned on my remarks, we continue to look for further expansion, not only within the Westin and Sheraton portfolios, but obviously as Marriott continues to add hotels. Relative to your question about how that impacts in other licensee in the business, I believe the exclusivity that you're referring to that ILG would have for instance on the Sheraton and Westin brands, pertains to the development of new timeshare properties with those two brands. So that's I think the differentiation that you might be looking for. I'm sorry, I lost the last part of your question.

John Geller

Analyst

Marriott rewards.

Steve Weisz

Analyst

Oh, Marriott rewards. Yes, we've recently begun some additional discussions with Marriott. They've been in very preliminary, stages trying to understand what their objectives are in terms of trying to move the loyalty platforms forward. As I said, it's very early in the discussion, so we really don't have much to report except to say that we'd begun a dialogue.

Chris Agnew

Analyst

Excellent. Thank you. And then one more question, I think you - I'm not sure on this call, but on the last call, you talked about the new sales centers you've got VPG up to the similar sort of level as new resorts. So as we think about your ramping going forward, does that really then reflect what your expectations for tour flow continuing to ramp? Or do you think there's more room for VPG to run at your new sales centers? Thank you.

Steve Weisz

Analyst

Well, clearly, we're very pleased. I don't have the VPG or the new sales number right in front of me. I believe it's very close to what we've run historically in our existing sales centers. But we will continue to drive more tour volume into those sales centers going forward as they continue to ramp up in terms of getting to more stabilize base at the call it that third year timeline. So we're - again, the guidance that we've provided in increasing our contract sales outlook for the remainder of this year reflects some of what we see there. And we're again, very encouraged by what we see.

Chris Agnew

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from David Katz with Telsey Group.

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Good morning. Well done. Nice quarter. I wanted to follow up the first half of the prior question, or I'm sorry, whatever place it was in the prior question, about including some Sheratons and Westins in your offering. I'd love to get just a little more specificity around - well, let me come straight at it. How does that not create some confusion from a branding perspective, either for you or with the customer, in terms of what you're offering?

Steve Weisz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Well, let me see if I can clarify it for you. We're not including Sheratons and Westins in our vacation ownership offering. What this basically is, is we are sourcing tours out of hotels, just as we source them out of Marriott hotels, et cetera. We're sourcing tours out of Sheraton hotels and Westin hotels. I mean, Sheraton Hotels and Westin Hotels are now part of the new Marriott portfolio, just as Marriott hotels are and Ritz-Carlton hotels are, et cetera. So all we're doing is we're selectively, in markets where we have vacation ownership sales centers, we are availing ourselves in the opportunity to source some tours so that hopefully people can become excited about buying into our product.

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

And those people may or may not be Marriott rewards loyalty members? Or they may or may not be SPG members?

Steve Weisz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

That's correct. These are hotel guests.

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Understood. And so ILG's rights are to the development of VOI in those brands, but not necessarily rights to members of those loyalty programs?

Steve Weisz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Well, you'll have to speak with ILG about their specific license agreement. I'll speak to ours, which is we have exclusive rights to the Marriott reward members and to any successor program to Marriott rewards from a marketing perspective. That means in terms of being able to make solicitations and marketing approaches to people not necessarily aligned with their hotel stay. In addition to that, we also talk to Marriott hotel guests as they stay in our Marriott hotels where we have linkage agreements. In a similar fashion, we're talking to guests that are staying in select Sheraton and Westin hotels. But we're not certainly marketing to the SPG marketing database to generate tours. Is that helpful?

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

This is very helpful, and I hope you don't mind me asking 1 more detail about it. If it were turned around the other way and they were to be marketing in a Marriott resort in some point, whether or not those people are Marriott rewards members or otherwise, would that be in your view violating what you think are your contractual rights?

John Geller

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Well, David, we should be clear with our contractual rights. We have exclusivity for marketing in the key full-service Marriott hotels and Ritz-Carlton hotels. So by contractual arrangement, we're the only timeshare company that can have linkage or marketing into those four or five key brands.

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

So by definition, the inverse scenario would be, right, a violation of - right, that that would not be in accordance with what you have?

John Geller

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Yes. Any other timeshare brand tied with Marriott, our contract with them, that's one of - we've talked about all our different exclusivity that we have. This is another example of exclusivity we have in our licensing agreement.

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Right. But your understanding is that it's not - that their exclusivity arrangement is different from yours?

John Geller

Analyst · Telsey Group.

You’d have to ask them what their exclusivity arrangement is. What we're telling you is we are able to market contractually into those Sheraton and Westin hotels.

David Katz

Analyst · Telsey Group.

Got it. Okay, I think we’ve explored this fully. Thank you very much. I’ll give someone else a chance and come back around.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brad Dalinka with SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Brad Dalinka

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Good morning. On for Patrick Scholes here. Trying to get at this from a different angle and apologize for continuing to beat this horse, but you guys bought back a few shares this quarter but somewhat less than usual. I'm recalling you guys bought about $90 million back in 2Q '16. Were you blacked out for any reason? Was it just that you're going to take up the guide? Is it fair to say you haven't repurchased anything subsequent to the quarter? Thank you.

John Geller

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Yes, Brad, it's John. We do appreciate your persistence on that question. But we obviously don't talk about reasons for us being in and out of market or if we're blacked out or not blacked out. So I'm not going to comment on that. We did, and you'll see in our 10-Q, we did get back into the market in June and bought a few shares back. And as we talked about, our board has increased our authorization here going forward. But once again, we're not going to comment specifically when we're in or out of the market.

Brad Dalinka

Analyst · SunTrust. Please proceed with your question.

Understood. Appreciate it. Had to try. That’s it for me. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we've reached the end of the Q&A session. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back to Steve Weisz. Oh, excuse me. Someone jumped into the queue. We do have one more question. This question comes from Tyler Batory with Janney Capital Market. Please proceed with your question.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe just the last one on the linkage share between Sheraton and Westin, is that something that was driving contract sales during the quarter? Or is it maybe a little bit too early for that to have an impact on your business?

Steve Weisz

Analyst

I would characterize it as very early on. The Hilton Head-Westin opportunity is something that started up in the, call it, mid-quarter. Some of these others have literally just been activated here in the last 60 days kind of thing. So I don't see it being particularly meaningful in terms of driving our increasing contract sales.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Okay, great. And then just on the same-store sales growth, can you maybe talk a little bit more about what's driving that, kind of how that's trended versus your expectations?

Steve Weisz

Analyst

Yes. I mean, as you might imagine, given our initial guidance at the beginning of the year of 9% to 15%, we're very pleased with what we've seen with that 17% growth in contract sales through the first two quarters. It's really many of the same things we talked about before. As we talked about, there’s the addition of new sales centers. And also, we have the success of our new marketing programs, specifically our Encore and our call transfer programs. They have continued to perform very well and we're very pleased with what we see there, not only in terms of generating tour flow, but also in terms of VPG. So you put those things together and that's what gives you the performance that we see.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Okay, great. That’s all for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. At this point, I'd like to turn the call back to Steve Weisz for closing comments.

Steve Weisz

Analyst

Thanks, Rob. We are off to our best first half performance since becoming a public company, with contract sales growth even higher than our record first quarter and earnings continuing on a solid pace as well. We believe that the foundation is set not just for a great second half of 2017, but for several years to come. Thanks for joining us today. And finally, to everyone on the call and your families, enjoy your next vacation.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day.