Preston Wigner
Analyst · Daniel Harriman from Sidoti
Daniel, I'll start with Ingredients. So last year, third quarter, was a good quarter for Ingredients, we had revenues and volume both up over the prior year's quarter. And this year, we've been impacted by market headwinds, product mix and the higher fixed costs. And I'll talk about all 3. So on those market headwinds, which are affecting the industry and a lot of the sectors where our customers are, there's weakness in that consumer packaged goods sector and other food and beverage sectors and those inflationary pressures. We're putting pressures on the consumer goods prices and therefore, from those customers pressures on us on our pricing and compressing our margins as well as tightening demand as their sales might decrease, then their orders from us will decrease. If it impacts them, it will impact us. And we've seen that maybe in particular, with sales this quarter of -- or sort of traditional core products. On the tariff side, we've talked about this a little bit in the past. We've had direct tariff impact with that indirect tariff impacts. Those impacts were just a little more pronounced this quarter than in the first half. On the direct tariff impact, we've got tariff costs that are impacting the cost of the products that we import into the U.S. and incorporate in the products that we sell. And so we've got tariff costs in those raw materials that we're having difficulty this past quarter, capturing all of that in our sales to our customers. And then on the indirect impact, our customers have tariff impacts, which are impacting the sale of their products. Those tariffs might be impacting components of their products or packaging of their products, which has decrease their sales. And again, if their sales decreasing, then potentially their orders to us are decreasing. On the product mix side, we had just a different mix of products with a little higher margins in the third quarter last year than we did this year. Some of those could be attributed, for example, to customer ordering based on forecasts of how they think their products were going to perform last year. So they might have ordered higher-margin products from us last year, ramping up for their sales into the market. And if those sales didn't turn out the way they had forecasted, then potentially this quarter, they would have had fewer of those sales or different products that they'd be ordering from us with slightly different margins. So just a little bit of a margin mix. And then lastly, on the higher fixed costs, we've been talking about that for a while. We're still focused on scaling the business to absorb the costs and the investments we made to grow the ingredients business, including the expansion of our capabilities of the Lancaster extracts facility. We continue to try to absorb those costs, which are impacting our margins and impacting our earnings. So we're positioned to offer innovative solutions-based products to our customers, and our sales are up 7% year-to-date versus last year, despite this challenging market, and our goal is to maintain that momentum. Sales of our new products have contributed to our increased sales, and we're focused on continuing to increase those sales and increased new and existing customer interest in Universal ingredients. We continue to add to our active product development pipeline that leverages our broad product portfolio across the full Universal Ingredients Foundation. And we think those capabilities and the products that we offer can help our customers deliver new or improved or unique products to navigate the existing headwinds that are impacting them. So our focus on the ingredient side, every single day is to convert that customer interest and the product portfolio into increased sales and volume across the factory floor. So I'm really encouraged by the dedication of the team is putting in the hard work on a daily basis. And I'm really pleased with the progress that we've made and how far we've come since our early days of 2018. So on the tobacco side, as you mentioned, this has been a solid quarter and year-to-date for our tobacco business. Last year was an extraordinary year for us. In last year's third quarter, was really robust. We had very strong demand in the undersupply market last year. We moved a lot of tobacco in the third quarter, including accelerated shipments in the third quarter. And pricing, both for our farmer pricing, green pricing as well as our sales prices were high, resulting in high dollar margins. And we also shipped more of certain kind of higher-margin dark tobaccos. Last third quarter, which supported a high operating margin last third quarter. This year, year-to-date, our tobacco segment revenues and operating income were only down slightly from last year's extraordinary results. Quarter-to-quarter, tobacco segment revenues and operating income are good, except in comparison to such a big third quarter last year. Last year's year-to-date and third quarter numbers were the highest that we've seen in a number of years. And just looking at the last 4 years for us, which were all solid years, our current year-to-date tobacco numbers are the second highest during that period. And our third quarter tobacco segment revenues are second highest and our tobacco segment operating income is within $4 million of being second highest for that period. So last year cast a big shadow, but we're still performing well this year and this quarter. This year's large crops, especially in Brazil and Africa, and still firm customer demand have given us opportunities to keep up with last year's sales. And we've also increased our third-party processing based on the size of those crops. But pricing is down slightly from last year. And we've had additional write-downs in certain dark air cured tobaccos that have impacted results and the comparative mix of products, which I just mentioned a second ago that we sold this quarter, third quarter versus last year's third quarter also had an impact with some higher-margin styles shipped at higher volumes last third quarter versus this third quarter. And then there's also some shipment timing impacts to the quarter-to-quarter comparison. So we've leveraged our tobacco expertise, our diversified footprint and our strong customer relationships to navigate what's been a really complex year, and we're moving into undersupply, from undersupply to oversupply. And with all of that, I'm really proud of the job we've done around the world to deliver the results we've delivered and to support all of our stakeholders.