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Universal Corporation (UVV)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, May 22, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Erica and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2019 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Ms. Candace Formacek, Vice President and Treasurer, you may begin your conference.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

Thank you, Erica. And thank you all for joining us today. George Freeman, our Chairman, President and CEO; and Johan Kroner our Chief Financial Officer are here with me today and will join me in answering questions after these brief remarks. This call is being webcast live and will be available on our website and on telephone taped replay. It will remain on our website through August 22, 2019. Other than the replay, we have not authorized and disclaim responsibility for any recording, replay or distribution of any transcription of this call. This call is copyrighted and may not be used without our permission. Before I begin to discuss our results, I caution you that we will be making forward-looking statements that are based on our current knowledge and some assumptions about the future and are representative as of today only. Actual results could differ materially from projected or estimated results, and we assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. For information on some of the factors that can affect our estimates, I urge you to read our 10-K for the year ended March 31, 2018, as well as our Form 10-K for the year-ended March 31, 2019, which we expect to file with the SEC later this week. Such factors include, but are not limited to, customer-mandated timing of shipments, weather conditions, political and economic environment, government regulation and taxation, changes in currency, industry consolidation and evolution and changes in market structure or sources. Finally, some of the information I have for you today is based on unaudited allocations and is subject to reclassification. In an effort to provide useful information to investors, our comments today may include non-GAAP financial measures. For details on these measures, including reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures, please refer to our…

Operator

Operator

Yes. [Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Ann Gurkin with Davenport.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Congratulations on a very strong year, very impressive. I want to just start out with your outlook for the crop sizes for fiscal ‘20. Can you give us any numbers or increased percentage ranges that support oversupply position?

Candace Formacek

Analyst

Yes. And we just posted these to the website. So, you should be finding more of the detail there. We do have the world flue-cured increasing for the current crop year versus prior about 4%, 2.2 excluding -- 2.2%, I'm sorry; 4.2% is excluding PRC. And then, we have an increase in burley that’s a bit smaller, 1.5%.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay. That didn’t change a whole from the crop report posted in February. Is it customer demand softening, customer orders, what’s creating this oversupply?

George Freeman

Analyst

Zimbabwe is huge.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

I mean, some of it’s timing, Ann, of course you know. That quarter is a little bit -- was less further for a long in understanding what the outlook might be. So that is -- part of it is the timing of the year.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay. And then, in terms of your capital allocation strategy and your comments in your press release, is there any timing of more concrete news or any kind of decisions, any kind of timeline you can give us, besides making progress and you hired someone but is there any kind of…

George Freeman

Analyst

No.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

…or expect if that makes sense?

George Freeman

Analyst

No. But, I think as we mentioned, we do have a pipeline and we do have some prospects that are interesting. And that’s……

Candace Formacek

Analyst

[Multiple speakers] we can announce it. I think we wanted to make sure that everyone understood that we were working very diligently, and are pleased with the amounts of activity that we’re seeing.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay. Ann, just to put this up there, since your customers seem to be dipping their toe into cannabis, any update as to whether you will work with them in terms of venturing into that business?

George Freeman

Analyst

Well, it’s still illegal. But if that were legal, we’d evaluate opportunities to see if they were in line with our core competencies. But, I do note, there are significant differences in the way you grow cannabis in a greenhouse and tobacco in a field.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

How about your existing hemp?

George Freeman

Analyst

Hemp, I think is probably closer to our core competencies.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

And is your strategic update you had outlined on non-core businesses to represent 10% to 20% of earnings over five years, is there any change to that expectation?

Johan Kroner

Analyst

No there’s not.

George Freeman

Analyst

No.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay, great. And then, given the unfortunate weather events in Africa, congratulations on the navigating all that successfully. But, how do we think about fiscal ‘20 processing capacity utilization at plant, anything I should watch out for there?

George Freeman

Analyst

No. I think, the -- we weren't really affected in our areas.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

Yes. And there was -- we were really fortunate to have minimal impact, especially on crops that were stored and awaiting shipment. Clearly, there is some infrastructure damage happening in the region, but at this time we are really not expecting material effect from the cyclones on upcoming crop sizes or shipment timing.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay, great. And then, can you talk about the opportunity to increase market share over the next several years, does that remain an opportunity? And then, can you help me understand that increased business you got with the Philippines, should that be a positive to fiscal ‘20 numbers?

Johan Kroner

Analyst

Yes. Ann, certainly, at the end of the day, that was a very good opportunity for us to expand there in the Philippines. We are of course the only ones in Philippines. So, it's a good win for us. And yes, we do believe that it will add to our earnings in fiscal year ‘20.

George Freeman

Analyst

And we still see opportunities out there.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Right. And then, can you talk about worldwide uncommitted number?

Candace Formacek

Analyst

Yes. The worldwide unsold fuel-cured and burley is 108 million kilos at 3/31/19 which is up 20 million from 12/31.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay. And then, Universal's uncommitted number? I'm sorry, I missed that.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

I don't think we put that in there. It's coming on in the K. But, it's not out at one.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

And then, just anything you can help me with fiscal 2019 -- so G&A was higher, which you talked about, was higher than my expectations for fiscal ‘19. How should I think about that for fiscal ‘20 if you can help me at all?

Candace Formacek

Analyst

I think, Ann, it's the same. We did have a number of offsetting variable in there. I would say, we had higher revenues and unit volumes this year. And we did see our SG&A for the full year at a pretty flat percentage. And I think, over the longer haul, it’s moved just a bit but not really that dramatically.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay. And then, how should I think about the margin potential for the North American business in fiscal ‘20 versus ‘19? I know ‘19 was impacted by processing yields smaller crop or crop related -- weather related impact on the crop. How should I think about the potential for the margin in North America in fiscal ‘20?

Johan Kroner

Analyst

As you can see in the year, the crop update that's going to come out, the crop is going to be about the same as last year. Of course, last year was weather affected, as you said. So, there certainly will be an impact on North America with regard to throughput through factory and overhead cost allocation will be impacted there.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

Okay, great. And then, CapEx for fiscal ‘20?

Johan Kroner

Analyst

CapEx for ‘20 is expected between $30 million and $40 million.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

$30 million to $40 million? And then, any comment or direction on overall margin for the company for fiscal ‘20 versus ‘19? Can you hold that flat or can you show improvement -- gross margin? Sorry.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

We don't really forecast our margins, Ann, as you know. [Multiple Speakers]. It’s really early in the season. We are still looking at what we think is going to be coming out next year. We're really just pleased with where we are this year, continually looking for opportunities even in the coming year and still feeling not speed about that. So, there are some things that affected our numbers this year that won't be repeated next year. So, we've got that information for you in this release.

George Freeman

Analyst

Right. And I mean, it is a slow market this year. Things are just moving slower.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

But it's early.

George Freeman

Analyst

Yes, it’s early.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

So, more to come next quarter.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

And I don't know if this has any impact on you all, but the U.S., Mexico, Canada trade agreement, does that have any implications for you?

Johan Kroner

Analyst

Well, we of course have businesses in Mexico. So, as far as impact, don't believe so. But, again, the U.S. crop is going to be short this year, certainly because of the Chinese import. So, we hope that the trade agreement will be resolved soon and the Chinese come back to our markets but we have a global footprint, so that includes Mexico, but I don't think that -- it will have an impact on us.

Ann Gurkin

Analyst

That’s great. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you for your time.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

Thank you, Ann.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Steve Marascia with Capitol Securities.

Steve Marascia

Analyst · Capitol Securities.

Hey, everyone.

George Freeman

Analyst · Capitol Securities.

Hello.

Steve Marascia

Analyst · Capitol Securities.

Just a quick question. You guys had about $20 million in restructuring and impairment costs for 2019. Do you expect -- what type of levels do you expect that to be in 2020?

Johan Kroner

Analyst · Capitol Securities.

We hope to have none. This was really specific related to our Tanzania operations. Of course that impairment was agreed to by our auditors, and we don't expect anymore. But, when we go into the year, we'll see if there's anything else out there.

Steve Marascia

Analyst · Capitol Securities.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Candace Formacek

Analyst · Capitol Securities.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions, at this time.

Candace Formacek

Analyst

Great. Thank you all very much for joining us. And we'll talk with you next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect.