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UTStarcom Holdings Corp. (UTSI)

Q4 2014 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 13, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by for UTStarcom’s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2014 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at any time. It is now my pleasure to introduce the host for today’s call, Mr. Sean Pattwell of FTI Consulting. Mr. Pattwell, you may begin.

Sean Pattwell

Management

Hello everyone. And welcome to UTStarcom’s fourth quarter and full year 2014 earnings conference call. Earlier today, we distributed our earnings press release and you can find a copy on our website at www.utstar.com. In addition, we have posted a slideshow presentation on our website, which you can download and use to follow along with today’s call. On today’s call, we have Mr. William Wong, UTStarcom’s Chief Executive Officer and Mr. Min Xu, UTStarcom’s Chief Financial Officer. Before we get started, I will read the company’s advisory on forward-looking statements. This call will include forward-looking statements relating to the company’s business, strategic initiatives and the performance for the full year period of 2014. These statements are forward-looking in nature and subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially and adversely from the company’s current expectations. This includes risks and uncertainties related to among other things changes in the financial condition and cash positions of the company, changes in the composition of the company’s management and their effect on the company, the company’s ability to realize anticipated results of operational improvements and benefits of the divestiture transaction, the ability to successfully identify and acquire appropriate technologies and businesses for inorganic growth and to integrate such acquisitions, the ability to internally innovate and develop new products, assumptions the company makes regarding the growth of the market and the success of the company’s offerings in the market, and the company’s ability to execute its business plans and manage regulatory matters. The risks and uncertainties also include the risk factors identified in the Company’s latest Annual Report on Form 20-F and current reports on Form 6-K as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Company is in a period of strategic transition and the conduct of its business is exposed to additional risks as a result. All forward-looking statements included in the conference call are based upon information available to the company as of the date of this call, which may change; and the company assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. I will now hand the call over to UTStarcom’s Chief Executive Officer, Mr. William Wong.

William Wong

Management

Thank you, Sean, and hello everyone. As Sean mentioned, you can follow along with today’s call by downloading the presentation from our website at www.utstar.com. Also unless otherwise stated all figures mentioned during the call are in U.S. dollars. I will first take you through an overview of our financial and operating highlights for the fourth quarter and full year 2014, and then I will turn the call over to our CFO, Min Xu, who will share with you the details of our financial performance. Please turn to slide five. While Min will walk you through the full detail in just a bit, let me provide a top line summary of our overall financial results. First, we demonstrated solid top line performance and have consistently exceeded expectation for the past several quarters. For the fourth quarter specifically, we surpassed a $25 million to $30 million guidance that we provided reaching $32.9 million in revenue and we achieved $129.4 million in revenue for the full year. Importantly, we remained resolute in our commitment to cost control and we further decreased operating expenses by 32.3% for the full year. This highlights our discipline in ensuring the business is efficiently [ph] run and has allowed us to reinvest certain funds in areas that would drive future growth. Also, we maintained a strong balance sheet ending the year with $80.1 million in cash, cash equivalents and short term investments and zero debt. We believe that this metrics prove we perform relatively well throughout in 2014 in what continues to be a time of transition. This is attributed to the strength of our core broadband business as well as our aggressive business transformation that we have been executing, however, it is worth noting that while we did exit revenue expectation in the past three quarters…

Min Xu

Management

Thank you, William and hello everyone. I will now take a few minutes to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2014 financial results. Please turn to slide 16. Before we walk through the specific numbers, I would like to highlight a few key items for the fourth quarter. Fourth quarter revenue exceeded our guidance, upside came from legacy IPTV revenue recognition of $4.2 million. Gross margin during the quarter decline sequentially largely due to the zero margin legacy IPTV revenue recognition and unfavorable product mix. Our balance sheet remains strong with cash, cash equivalent and short-term investment of $80.1 million and also zero debt. Please turn slide 17 for a revenue review. In the fourth quarter total revenue was $32.9 million, exceeding our initial expectations of $25 million to $30 million and slightly above the previous quarter revenue of $32.3 million. Full year 2014 revenue was $129.4 million compared to $164.4 million in 2013. Please turn to slide 18 and 19 for gross profit and gross margin. In fourth quarter, gross profit was $3.4 million, compared to $7.2 million in the prior year period. Gross margin was 10.3% compared to 18.7% in the prior year period of 2013. On Q3 earnings call, we mentioned that, large size order with high margin was pulled in from Q4 to Q3 which helped Q3 margin and hurt our Q4 margin. In addition, the $4.2 million legacy IPTV revenue recognition carried zero margin. Full year 2014 gross profit was $22.1 million, compared to $40.2 million in 2013. Gross profit was 17.1% compared to 24.5% in 2013. The year-over-year decrease in gross profit and gross margin were primarily caused by decreased the sales of high margin optical transport products due to the product generations gap. Please turn to slide 20 for operating expenses. In…

William Wong

Management

Thank you, Min. Now please turn to slide 25. I'll state a few final words and then we can move on to your questions. We're nearing the end of our transition and transformation. While the transition will continue to a degree into 2015, this past year has been remarkable in terms of geographic growth, product introductions and the achievement of greater efficiencies and cost savings. We are optimistic for what the future holds and we remain committed to developing innovative products and solutions that disrupt the market and leverage the opportunities presented by a dynamic and growing global industry. Turning to our specific outlook, we continue to be committed to broadband as a driver of our business and timely revenue contributor are going forward. As mentioned last quarter, new higher quality and higher margin products are still in early stages of the product lifecycle and given a relative decline in carrier capital expenditures last year, including with our core customers. The uptick of this higher-end products have shifted from 2014 into the second half of 2015. We do believe that this share will therefore benefit 2015 results. In terms of revenue, we currently expect to generate total revenues in the range of $25 million to $30 million in the first quarter of 2015 and anticipate double-digit growth in non-GAAP revenue for the full year. At the same time, we'll need to continue to work to mitigate pressures on gross margin that exist due to the headwinds from the depreciation of the Japanese Yen versus U.S. dollar. Further we will maintain a tight focus of financial controls that we have since restructuring efforts began two years ago. With all of this said, we believe we will deliver incremental improvements in non-GAAP operating income compared to 2014. With that, Min and I would like to take your questions. Operator, please open the line for Q&A.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, Mr. Wong. We will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions]. Your first question comes from the line of William Gregozeski from Greenridge Global. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Hi, guys. Congratulations on another good quarter. Just a couple of quick questions. In regards to the U.S. markets do you have any sense for what you might see? Does the product demand for this year, I mean, is it going to be for Wi-Fi offloading [ph] you've talked about from past for selling to Sprint for their network or what are you seeing for the U.S, or what are you looking for this year?

Min Xu

Management

For the U.S. market, Bill, actually we're going after three areas. First of all, of course is as we have said before, trying to leverage our expertise and presence with the Softbank and get into the Sprint account. Secondly, it's going after the 30 operators in the U.S. base and to that extent as I've said earlier, we have under development of wholesale of new products and a few of which are actually targeted at the smaller operators and provide them with very good access solutions. So, thirdly and coming back to what you mentioned about Wi-Fi, its what we have been humming in with the MSOs in the U.S. since they have been in a very large scale deployments, so right now we are very actively engaged with the MSOs in the U.S. to try to bring to them what we do best in essence giving a very good user experience for Wi-Fi better access. So, we expect all of these free funds to start bringing in certain revenue within this year.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. I do not notice any mentioning of Korea in your prepared remarks. Is there any update you can give on the work you're doing there?

Min Xu

Management

Well, we continue to partners with DASAN Networks across the global actually. Right now, as we hear from us before we have brought their product, the GPON product into Japan. Right now, we are also doing similar things to bring their product into India, which is a very good compliment to what we have, packet optical, transport products together with our Wi-Fi and also their GPON product is a perfect fit for supporting a number of this government initiatives in India. And there is a few other countries in Asia-Pac that we are also collaborating with them to penetrate those new markets.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, for UiTV and aioTV, in the past you've talked about them looking to monetize, sell the company or whatever, but I noticed in the slide about that they were looking for capital as well, is this something new where they might prefer just to continue going at it alone?

Min Xu

Management

Well, we have always been monitoring and looking at what is the best way to optimize the ultimate investment returns. So, there is different stages that we're looking at whether it make sense if the right strategic alternative opportunities came about then certainly we would go evaluate and look at those. At the same time, in areas where we see like additional investment can further enhanced the valuation of the company than we would certainly be very willing to do so as well. So, both companies are exploring different possibilities as we speak. So, which is either additional capital investment or strategic initiatives and both of them are heavily engage in those funds.

William Gregozeski

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the Tony Tian from Merriman Capital. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Tony Tian

Analyst

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William Wong

Management

Yes. Your understanding is correct. So, previously the loss has been credit against the preferred stock investment. Now the book value for the preferred stock investment has drop to zero, so now we're picking up 100% of the loss going forward.

Tony Tian

Analyst

So, the net loss at UiTV Media [Indiscernible] it’s the ballpark number of $4 million to $5 million per quarter?

William Wong

Management

That's right.

Tony Tian

Analyst

Okay. The next question is regarding your share buybacks, I know you've disclosed you’ll spend $1.7 million buying back shares since you're now seeing November. I'm just curious what's the logic you continue your spending your -- which I think is very important for you to continue transform that business into your cash position. I know, as the company is still losing money and still it’s trying to expand in new market like the U.S. market. At the same time you are waiting for the market to turn and the new higher margin product to take up, I just don't see spending cash versus buying back shares to give – I don't know, its either way you're trying to give the investors more confidence either you're returning the buying back shares, returning cash to investors or you can keep your cash positions steady and at the same time transform the business. I'm just trying to understand which way is a better way of giving investors more confidence going forward?

Min Xu

Management

I totally understand you concern. And I think you touched upon pretty much every point. So when we launched the share repurchase program, we did mention that first of all, we want to enhance shareholder value by returning cash to investors who want to receive cash and sell this stock. And again – then second point is that we want to demonstrate that we are very confident on the Company's future and we're very confident on the gross potential of our stock, so, we are willing to invest in our stock. And third, we are very confident on our future cash flow and we believe our future cash flow will be more than enough to support share buyback program. At the same time, support our gross initiatives. So, temporary you may see cash position fluctuate. You may see working capital fluctuate. One thing I want to point out that one of reason we're seeing lower cash balance, this quarter is actually, we're investing in more working capital into supporting our Taiwan sales. So, whenever you want to grow your sales, you have to invest your cash to support future growth. So, to summarize, we are very confident that we have enough cash inflow to support both cash buyback program and future growth and the temporary decline in cash balance is not going to change the current situation and our thinking.

Tony Tian

Analyst

My last question regarding your 2015 outlook, can you provide some colors on your gross margins for the year?

Min Xu

Management

So, we haven't provide any guidance on that, so one of the reason is as you can see that gross margin can be very volatile depending on couple of things, one, product mix, second, business kind of business condition, the customer spending environment, and third, our cost control. And so, we have always been saying our high end product can achieve margin north of 50%. And if we can accelerate adoption of our higher margin products and improve product to mix, we can easily expand our margin. And previously, we have been able to maintain a margin that roughly 20% were targeting to improve that to 25%. But again, it depends on the timing of the higher margin product adoption and also Japanese yen, depreciation. We did a lot of uncertainties and however we are working very hard to expand our margin. We're trying to for example, price our sales and U.S dollar to avoid the pressure on Japanese yen and we're finding ways to expand our margin.

William Wong

Management

Just to add to that, for example, in the past, in India we have been always suffering very low margin return in our offerings. As I said earlier, we are in a final phase of booking some new orders, new sizeable orders and at the same time they would also represent and they would also demonstrate our ability to actually increase the gross margin of the offerings. So, to repeat what Min has said, we're looking in all angles to drive up the gross margin for the year.

Tony Tian

Analyst

That's all I have. Thank you, William and Min.

William Wong

Management

Thank you, Tony.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Zhang Jun from Rosenblatt. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Zhang Jun

Analyst

Hi, William and Min. Thanks for taking my question. First I have two questions, the first one, could you give us more color about your new product top line this year and how that's kind of contribute to the revenue and margin growth this year? And my second question is, I know you mentioned on a conference call that the TV part of business you've invested before will get some license from U.S market or China. Could you talk little bit more about that? What's kind of business model you're going to do in China and how that's kind of benefit the UTSI? Thanks.

Min Xu

Management

On your first question regarding the new product, actually a number of this product has been in under developments in early part of 2014 and so forth, one of which we have said many time before SDN that right now we're actually in deployment already in Japan for the first bandwidth and demand services. In addition, we will be launching a series of product in the area where we call the SUPT [ph] Software Defined Universal Packet Transform Platform. So, this platform solutions including both hardware and a combination of SDN that we bring to countries like India to help them to deploy the entire metro network. And addition to that we said also earlier we're in under development of certain product say herein, they need a virtual broadband gateways and these are targeted for the 30 operators in the U.S., so all of these products will be launch within the subsequent quarters in this year, and we expect to generate to begin generate some revenue within this year and then getting into high volume shipment next year. So, to answer your second question regarding the TV platform licensing that UiTV is doing. In the past UiTV has very much focusing into running a TV service operation, focusing their effort very much into Thailand supporting the TOT partnership. That has in along its way resulted in building a very complete set of technology. And as we see across the board along the entire industry, those technology platforms are actually bring a lot of value, because a lot TV services operators are very much looking to have their hands around those technology so that they can deploy new services or complementary services to what they have. So, that is why right now there is also additional branch on to UiTV strategy. So, one side of the company will continue to provide and operate TV Services for operators, at a same time they would also negotiate content agreement with Hollywood studios and so forth. So, that continues as what they are doing before. The second ARM that they have now build out, it’s a technology portion which they would begin doing a lot of licensing of those technologies to operators. And I think in not too distinct future maybe within a quarter or so you would see them announcing signing licensing contracts with some operators and those are very large scale potential and the business model would be would be tie pretty much to on a per subscriber basis offering their technologies. So, that would in the long term be very, very lucrative and that's what we're looking to do.

Zhang Jun

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. That's all my question. Thanks a lot.

William Wong

Management

Thank you, Zhang.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Carter Driscoll from MLV. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

Good morning, gentlemen. I wanted to get your thoughts on obviously the U.S. is marketing, targeting very aggressively and get your initial thoughts on what just happened with the FCC and regards to net neutrality and what you think the impact potentially could be on infrastructure investments on the areas that you're targeting for growth in the United States and I have couple of follow-up?

William Wong

Management

Thanks Carter for the question. We welcome any initiatives actually that opens up the market to create more competitive landscape so that more players can come into the play, because for us as an infrastructure provider that would mean a lot more opportunities and also new and upcoming players would also appreciate lot of the new and innovative technologies that we would offer to the market. At the same time, we do see a lot of – I would a strong push towards the Wi-Fi area which not just in the U.S. but all over the world. People are looking at adopting Wi-Fi technology in combination of the cellular expansion and also in new and immerging spaces of markets. Wi-Fi are being deployed in parallel to the cellular infrastructure. So, we do feel that we're in a very good position because of the large scale deployment. As we've said before that we have done for Softbank in Japan Right now we are taking that technology all over the space to provide that same offering that can helped operators to bring online wireless services to customers much, much faster and than also in a much more cost effective manner.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

My next question is, getting back to the partnerships with UiTV and aioTV, if they would to get outside capital or pursue a strategic alternative, which of those two new things would have the potential to either enhance or even potentially to track from your relationship with them if at all?

William Wong

Management

Well right now we you know are looking at those investments and like we have said in the past you know we certainly look for ways to monetize this investments, okay so if there is a good strategic alternatives you know coming by of the right evaluation of course we would be very interested to entertain and evaluate those propositions but also as we said if there is a strategic investment that can come online and that could strengthen and also further enhance the valuation of certain fees for the company, we would also be very open to do that, because in both these companies you know we’re not per se in the media industry, but we came across some very strong strategic investors in the media space who would be able to not only bring in money but smart money that not only bring in higher valuation but also a lot of business potentials and collaboration with either aioTV or UiTV that we would be very happy to do so because those strategic investors you know possibly might in the end you know ended up buying the company or you know helped to further increase the value of the company in a much broader manner. So we are actually open, okay to both alternatives.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

Absolutely, now I understand. Maybe shifting gears a little bit back to the SDN it’s nice to see that if I heard it correctly that you have a second carrier probably [ph] in Japan, can you talk about the length, your expectation the length of the trial period and then your expectations of when you could see other geographies potentially your other carriers obviously located within different geographies in Japan, potentially beginning to try the SDN offering?

William Wong

Management

Well we expect to have another six months of trial deployment and as such point we would begin the deployment into the rest of the cities in Japan. And besides that at present, we do feel the environment in Japan is changing, okay a lot of the operators in the past who are very much into supporting the local technology providers in Japan, they are now coming under very strong pressure from competition amongst themselves such that they are now opening up themselves to whoever is offering the best and most cost effective solution. As such, that’s why we are even though we have managed to sign up the second operator right now we are accelerating our effort and looking to win additional operator design wins in Japan as well.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

And my, I guess my last question is obviously the currency impacts have a negative effect translation and you talked about maybe potentially pricing in U.S. dollars to mitigate some of that impact in advance of being able to do so could you kind of quantify in a generic maybe sense what the financial impact is in the translation on a quarterly basis you know lets say revenue and ETS and then are there any hedging policies that you would look to implement if you are not successful in being able to get some of your products you know that some of your customers did to buy into pricing in U.S. dollars, just trying to get a sense of how you could mitigate the Forex [ph] the foreign exchange exposure on a active basis effects the way you do it.

William Wong

Management

So like we mentioned in the last quarter we did look into two ways to mitigate the pressure, but at this point we do not believe doing you know currency hedging is the right strategy and we will keep monitoring the situation and we will put on hedge in program if necessary. But at this stage we believe you know it’s probably better just to stay where we are right now and just to probably do some convert our sales currency to U.S. dollar or you know using other ways to mitigate the pressure.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

And just maybe at high level what -- if that involves 10% would have X amount of impact on translation to do kind of put brackets around that?

William Wong

Management

So I would say we did do an analysis last quarter and we have an update on that this quarter but from last quarter’s situation a 10% depreciation will probably hit our corporate margin by half a point to 1 point.

Carter Driscoll

Analyst

Perfect. Appreciate that. That’s all I had gentlemen, appreciate it.

Min Xu

Management

All right. Thank you.

William Wong

Management

Thank you, Carter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference back to management for closing comments. Mr. Xu Min, please go ahead.

Min Xu

Management

Thank you. Thank you everyone for participating in today’s call. We appreciate your support, please feel free to contact -- contact us if you have any further questions. We look forward to share our business update next quarter. Have a nice day.