Operator
Operator
Thank you for standing by for the UTStarcom's fourth quarter and full year 2010 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jing Ou-Yang, Investor Relations for UTStarcom.
UTStarcom Holdings Corp. (UTSI)
Q4 2010 Earnings Call· Fri, Mar 11, 2011
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Operator
Operator
Thank you for standing by for the UTStarcom's fourth quarter and full year 2010 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jing Ou-Yang, Investor Relations for UTStarcom.
Jing Ou-Yang
Management
Welcome to UTStarcom's fourth quarter 2010 earnings conference call. We distributed our earnings press release earlier today, and you can find a copy on Newswire Services or on our website at www.utstar.com. In addition, we have posted a presentation on our website which you can download to use to follow along with today's call. On today's call, we have Mr. Jack Lu, our President and CEO; and Mr. Edmond Cheng, our CFO. Before we get started, I will read the company's advisory on forward-looking statements. This call will include forward-looking statements on topics that include, but may not be limited to the company's restructuring initiatives, IPTV revenues, profit margins and projected business model. Forward-looking statements are generally indicated by such words as will, expects, estimates, goals, plans, or similar words. These statements are forward-looking in nature and subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. These include risks and uncertainties regarding the ability of the company and to realize anticipated results of operational improvements, the company's ability to successfully compete, to supply GEPON broadband products, the company's ability to successfully integrate recent acquisitions, execute its business plan and manage regulatory matters, as well as risk factors identified in its latest Annual Report on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and the current report on Form 8-K as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. In addition, today's call will include certain non-GAAP financial measures. The most directly comparable GAAP information and a reconciliation between the non-GAAP and GAAP figures is attached to the earnings press release issued earlier today and filed in the Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I will now turn the call over to our President and CEO, Mr. Jack Lu.
Jack Lu
Management
As Jing mentioned, you can follow along on today's call by following the presentation from our website at www.utstar.com. Please move with me to Slide 4. As I mentioned in our press release I am pleased we exceeded our adjusted revenue target for the year, and had a positive operational cash flow in the fourth quarter of 2010. The changes and the restructuring of the last year are beginning to pay off, and we expect this to enable UTStarcom's return to profitability. Last quarter, I talked about our top-level management transition. I am pleased that we continue to gain momentum as a team in refining our focus and strategy. At the end of the year, we announced a new corporate structure, combined the two existing business units to better support our strategy and align the company for sales and marketing performance. Our three new strategies have already opened opportunity for us, China's cable and telecom network operators in interactive TV, and we expect this strategy to bear fruit in the year ahead. As a reminder, the new strategy has three main points; first, return to China; second, targeting telecom and cable operators in parallel; and third, providing equipment and services. Turning to the Slide 5 and looking at our major demand drivers, as I mentioned in our last call, the Three Network Convergence related market is projected to reach RMB688 billion in the coming three years. According to a report released in January by a Chinese government regulator, the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television, or we call it SARFT, at the end of the year 2010, in China, there were 187 million households with cable TV, an increase of 6.9% from 2009. There are 88 million with digital cable TV, a 39% increase from the previous year. Nearly…
Edmond Cheng
Management
Hello, everyone. Before discussing the key business unit performance, I will start by highlighting the companywide numbers, presented on both a GAAP and our non-GAAP basis. Now please turn to Slide 9. In the fourth quarter of 2010, GAAP revenues were $76.1 million compared with $116.3 million for the same period a year ago. The year-over-year decrease was primarily due to the wind down of our handset business. Full year net sales exceeded the adjusted guidance we issued several months ago, to reach $291.5 million. This was mainly due to an increase in the multimedia product related revenue, as telco operators strove to improve that infrastructure and completed large contracts earlier than expected. On Slide 10, you can see that for the fourth quarter of 2010, we have a gross profit of $8.1 million or 11% of total, which was 8.7% lower sequentially due to the fact that we had the following significant items: $3.3 million in loss contract reserve and a $9.9 million in inventory write-down. Without these items, gross margin would have been 28.8%. Gross profit for the year 2010 was $70.2 million or 24%, which included the following significant items: a $14.6 million inventory write-down and a $6.0 million decrease in the cost of sales resulting from the reversal of an accrued third party commission liability as a result of the expiration of the statute of limitations, a $2.6 million in loss contract reserve, including adjustments from the actualization of estimated costs related to certain fixed price contracts. Without these items, gross margins would have been at 28.6%. Gross margin has increased for four conservative years, from the year 2007 to 2010. This is mainly due to product mix improvement and better control over inventory level. In the year 2011, we are expecting to further improve our…
Jack Lu
Management
As you can see, we have clearly made significant progress in the fourth quarter and year 2010, and I am excited about the road ahead. Here is our guidance for 2011. Please follow along with me on Slide 16. First we are aiming to achieve total revenue for the year in a range of $300 million to $320 million. Second, we target to generate 10% of total sales in 2011 from our new service business. Three, our aim is to have annualized operating expenses of less than $100 million. And finally, our goal is to breakeven in 2011 on full year basis. One more important change, which will take place next quarter, we will be changing how we report on our business. Going forward you will see two line items, the first, for our existing equipment-based business, and the second, for the new service business that I described earlier. While we do all the comparatively small in the early quarters, I believe and I hope to see this grow significantly in near year ahead. At this point, I'd like to ask the operator to open this for the Q&A.
Operator
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Jie Liu with Auriga USA.
Jie Liu - Auriga USA
Analyst
This is Jie Liu of Auriga USA. Jack and Edmond congratulation on the good numbers, I think you guys did pretty good in the fourth quarter. A few questions here. First of all I'm wondering how the book-to-bill ratio was calculated for the fourth quarter? As Edmond said earlier that book-to-bill ratio including the past revenue is 0.98, but your revenue in the fourth quarter basically significantly beat my estimate. So let's assume that your revenue will be in your original guidance. Would the book-to-bill ratio be higher than one in that case?
Edmond Cheng
Management
Let me take this question. In Q4 including PHS restatement, the book-to-bill ratio is 0.68. And if we take out the PHS, restatement is excluded, then that means the book-to-bill ratio is 0.98. So what we are looking at it is the revenue for Q4 is approximately more than $10 million above our guidance. So if falls in line with the Q4 revenue with the guidance, then the book-to-bill ratio will be above 1. And that's exactly what it is.
Jie Liu - Auriga USA
Analyst
Also Jack mentioned that you guys are making good progress in Japan with SOFTBANK. Could you maybe elaborate a little bit on the size of the opportunities there in 2011?
Jack Lu
Management
As I've mentioned, we successfully passed the trial run last year. And we are in a position to have sizeable orders almost every quarter, because of requirement from our customer. I can't give exact amount each quarter, but I would like to say it is sizeable.
Jie Liu - Auriga USA
Analyst
So the next question is on the cash flow. Well obviously you guys did very good with the operating cash flow in the fourth quarter. And Edmond also mentioned that in the next couple of quarters, the operating cash flow may not be as good as the fourth quarter number. So how should we think about the operating cash flow, say on a full year basis on 2011? Jack earlier mentioned that you guys are trying to achieve a GAAP breakeven in 2011. So what about the operating cash flow?
Edmond Cheng
Management
On operating cash flow as what we have reported, for the last two quarters you have seen the trend that we have been basically is improving what I call picking all the non-hanging fruits. And we're able to basically improve our working capital management from that sense. And hence we had a significant improvement in Q4. Going forward both non-hanging fruit has already been picked. So we have to basically looking at a further tuning our way of doing our supply chain. And basically on our way of funding or financing our accounts receivables, and that's something that we need to look at from that perspective. So the anticipation of going forward is, you will not see the improvement trend, nothing goes up in one straight line. So you will see that Q1 will not be the same trend as what you have seen in Q3 and Q4. But we are also aiming at having operating cash flow as part of our goal maybe probably starting in Q3. So that's something that we are working on internally. At this point in time, we would not make any guidance at this point.
Jie Liu - Auriga USA
Analyst
So next question is on the gross margin? So I backed out your special charges for the quarter and your gross margin dipped a little bit quarter-over quarter. So how should we think about your gross margin going forward in 2011? In particular, what is the gross margin associated with your new service revenue?
Edmond Cheng
Management
Looking at our gross margin trend, I think there is a few things that we'll be looking at it. First of all, we've been able to demonstrate a year-over-year improvement in gross margin, and are rising at 24% for the year 2010. So that's number one to have you look at it. And secondly, we have still on 2011 we have about close to $92 million of PAS deferred revenue, which is at 35% gross margin. And third, our new operation support services business gross margin will be at higher than our PAS deferred revenue gross margin in that sense. So if you're looking at the product mix and looking at our improvement in operational controls, and especially in containing the inventory risks on going forward basis. We have confidence that we will do a full year breakeven with an operating expense of at or below $100 million. So you can do a reverse calculation on that part that means that we are looking at gross margin at high end of the 20%.
Jie Liu - Auriga USA
Analyst
So regarding your service revenue, do you need to incur any cash outlay to jumpstart the service business? Like in other words, does the service revenue take any cash expenditure from your guys in 2011?
Edmond Cheng
Management
Depending on what we are looking and, of course we have cash of $352 million at the end of the year. We are looking at very carefully on using this cash to basically pursue some of our growth initiatives. We will be using some of this cash to pursue if there are right opportunity on the operational services support business, growing that business from that sense. So obviously there could be some use of cash in that area.
Jie Liu - Auriga USA
Analyst
Maybe just one more question from me. Could you guys talk a little bit more about your EPON related opportunities in 2011? And how should we think about the opportunities from the cable guys, the state power grid, as well as the telecom carriers?
Jack Lu
Management
As you can see from the media, because of the free network coverages, both the telcos and the cable operators start to increase their investments and deployments of broadband access. EPON and the GEPON is the major access solutions for both of them. In addition, in China the state grids also wanted to implement, they call the smart grid projects, call for the national wise power supply grid. So which means three areas all has a very big opportunity for that broadband. But in detail our position in telecos, cables and power grids. We will do our best to just achieve a good position in market share for all three of them.
Operator
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of (Al Tova with Fidus).
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
I had a question about cash flow and cash as you're looking at things strategically. You have maintained a healthy cash balance and done a very good job of protecting cash. As you move to being a cash flow positive company later in the year and an earnings positive company. How much cash do you feel like you need to keep on the balance sheet in order to keep your customers comfortable with your company? So how much cash is strategic versus operational?
Jack Lu
Management
This is a very good questions and I enjoy your question on that part. What I am looking at it is, if looking at our working capital needs from that perspective looking at our OpEx at $100 million. So you're looking at how much is for operational and how much is for strategic. What are we looking at it is internally I am looking at a goal of hoping that we internally can forward existing business. We can turn maybe a slightly cash flow breakeven from that sense. Then we can use our operational cash flow to fund the business. So that's something that first of all and that's a base assumption from there. And secondly, cash is always not enough for me. And I like cash. I like a business that will generate positive cash flows, so that's my nature. But on the other hand, we also need to look for growth initiatives. And if the right strategic opportunity comes along that actually fit into the criteria that we are looking at, and if the right valuation, we would look into that, we will actively pursue that from that sense. So I don't know if have answered your question.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
I just thought of you more specifically. And your carrier customers, how much cash do you feel like you need to have on your balance sheet in order for you to be able to compete with the big companies you compete with. So there are saying well UT only has X amount of cash. If you have $100 million of cash on the balance sheet, is that a comfortable number, is $50 million, what's the amount? And then is the rest of the cash going to be earmarked for strategic acquisition opportunities?
Edmond Cheng
Management
Our telco operators is not specifically actually looking at our cash balance, as a way of working with them and participating in the projects, first of all. It is important for us to demonstrate that we become a profitable company again and a viable company going forward. That is a more important indicator to them. So this is important that we will achieve at 2011, a full year profitability come from that sense. And that will speak louder to the teleco operators, we will become a viable company again for UTStarcom. And the cash will be just a carrier over there.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
And then just two questions related. The first question is very specific, regarding cash flow and earnings, should they be approximately the same levels, meaning, when you turn earnings positive, you should be cash flow positive aside from a little change in working capital. Or will cash flow precede or lag earnings?
Edmond Cheng
Management
In this business, this is very different type of business than other like consumer, electronic type of business, which the cash flow will time very similar to operating profit from that sense. In our business because of the way the complicated accounting rules on the revenue recognition side. Usually in our business cash flow actually precede a little bit ahead of the revenue and profitability from that sense. So that's to the extent that I can tell you.
Unidentified Analyst
Analyst
And then can you share with us your criteria for making a strategic acquisition. And my assumption is that you're looking at same as that will support your OSS directives? But maybe talk about what kind of criteria you have, when you look at acquisitions in terms of contribution to earnings, tolerance for dilution and things like that?
Jack Lu
Management
So actually I set to three criterias. Number one, the business must be aligned with our strategic direction, which is OSS business. Number two, the targets must have goals, healthy topline and bottomline. So that means we only look at profitable company and also generate the cash from their services. And number three, their business must demonstrate a very strong growing trend.
Operator
Operator
We do have question that just came in from Richard Greenburg with Donald Smith & Co. Richard Greenburg - Donald Smith & Co.: Just a follow-up on that last question, your point to that the type of companies you'd be looking for. It strikes me that the description of those companies are very profitable, strongly growing, cash generating, and et cetera. That all sounds good, but it could be very expensive proposition particularly relative to your own stock, which arguably at selling is below cash, might be a better deal. How can you assure us that you're really not going to overpay for companies and add a lot of intangibles and goodwill? The type of companies you're looking to acquire, typically you'd have to pay a big premium for and it would be costly to shareholders. So what kind of assurance can you give us that that's not going to happen?
Jack Lu
Management
Actually the management team is very cautious in making this kind of strategic decision. So this is why we are not into anything, except for only one smart deal. I think we are not going to buy big ones, because the size and also the price. So we are going to buy smaller entities that presents very good potential in China, providing OSS kind of business. And also from our actual job, we can see some of the entities, they have investors eager to take exits either due to the time of their investment or the entrepreneurs who want to focus on their investments. So this is the case. It is now that this is the job to do to drive down and get back to the reasonable price. But management for sure we'll be very careful about that. And also, in addition, I want to share that personally, I just took care a lot about our cash, so very conservative on that.
Operator
Operator
And you have no further questions.
Jing Ou-Yang
Management
Thank you for joining us on our fourth quarter 2010 earnings conference call. We look forward to updating you on our first quarter 2011 results in a few months time. Feel free to get in touch with us anytime you have further questions, concerns or comments. Thank you everyone.
Operator
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen that concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.