Liz Barrett
Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open
Yes, and thanks Paul. I will just comment on the gross to net. And I wish I had a crystal ball where that’s concerned. We see quite a bit of variability quarter-to-quarter. So, I do think – I think we have hit a place where we are not going to go back to the higher – to the lower discounts. We will continue to see that. So, I think in aggregate over the year, so I think there continue to be variability quarter-to-quarter, so that making it very difficult. But I do – but I think that we are going to continue to see that as a headwind. I don’t think it will increase much more than we have already seen the variability now. Like I said, it’s at a new low only because we don’t see that obviously as much with nephrostomy tube administration as you do with other. Although I do think this is the single biggest issue facing our industry today. You hear it from a lot of people around 340B. I think we need to figure out a way to have that addressed because what you are seeing is institutions, they buy practices and they get the 340B discount, even though it’s delivered into an account. So, I don’t think that we will see further erosion, but I think that what is here is going to be here to stay from a gross to net perspective. So, again, as I mentioned before, even with the headwinds of gross to net and the wastage provision, I think we have learned now, pretty good at what we can anticipate. I think it’s incumbent upon us to drive adoption and drive the demand and ensure that, that demand translates to an actual patient being treated. And that’s something that, again, David, is really, really focused on. So, I think that, that’s going to be the key, identifying the patients and translating every patient to a dose. And again, we are seeing that a little bit better in the third quarter so far, but I don’t want to get ahead of ourselves. And that’s what we saw in the first six months, which we had not seen before. And if we had simply done that, even with the headwinds, we would be where we need it to be. So, feel good about our ability. Like I said, we believe there is a path to the lower end of the guidance. I feel really good about the stuff that David is implementing. And so we will continue to drive that. But be assured, it’s going to continue to be a slog, right, with JELMYTO, very, very different than UGN-102, which we know will be – not only the practice economics, but the ease of use, and the learning and ensuring that we have all the things that we underestimated with JELMYTO, that we don’t do that, and we will not make that – we won’t do that again where we underestimate the logistics, and so that’s one of the things that David’s really, really focused on. So, with that, Mark, why don’t you answer the question around UGN-103 and 104?