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Upwork Inc. (UPWK)

Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, May 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Upwork's First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised, today's conference is being recorded. I would like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Samuel Meehan, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Samuel Meehan

Analyst

Thank you, and welcome to Upwork's discussion of its first quarter 2025 financial results. Joining me today are Hayden Brown, Upwork's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Erica Gessert, Upwork's Chief Financial Officer. Following management's prepared remarks, they will be happy to take your questions. But first, I'll review the Safe Harbor Statement. During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are forward-looking statements under Federal Securities Laws. Forward-looking statements include all statements other than statements of historical fact. These statements are not guarantees of future performance, but rather are subject to a variety of risks, uncertainties, and assumptions. Our actual results could differ materially from expectations reflected in any forward-looking statement. For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our SEC filings available on the SEC website and on our investor relations website, as well as the risks and other important factors discussed in today's earnings press release. Additional information will be set forth in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the quarter ended March 31, 2025 when filed. In addition, reference will be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Information regarding non-GAAP financial measures, including reconciliations to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in the press release that was issued this afternoon on our Investor Relations website at investors.upwork.com. Unless otherwise noted, reported figures are rounded. Comparisons for the first quarter of 2025 are to the first quarter of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin and free cash flow are non-GAAP financial measures, and all other financial measures are GAAP unless cited as non-GAAP. Now I'll turn the call over to Hayden.

Hayden Brown

Analyst

Good afternoon, and welcome to Upwork's first quarter 2025 earnings call. Upwork had a strong start to the year as our first quarter results feed our plan on both the top and bottom lines. Revenue of $192.7 million exceeded the high end of our guidance range. Combined with consistent cost discipline that led to record high adjusted EBITDA of $56 million and adjusted EBITDA margin of 29%, we have proven quarter after quarter that we can execute well and lead our industry in any market environment. Our business is extraordinarily resilient and our strategy and execution have resulted in industry-leading performance over multiple years despite the uncertain operating environment. Additionally, Upwork is not directly exposed to announced tariffs nor to ongoing federal cost savings measures. Our core marketplace performed well in Q1, where GSV per active client grew year-over-year for the first time in six quarters and increased sequentially for a third consecutive quarter. We also drove sizable GSV out performance in marketplace through several product enhancements to search recommendations and other customer experiences. Upwork has helped businesses reinvent through every work transformation of the last 20 years, enabling them with the highly skilled talent required to deliver cloud solutions, build e-commerce storefronts, and embrace the eras of mobile and social media. With AI being the next and biggest paradigm shift for organizations, Upwork is becoming the critical infrastructure for enabling the combination of humans and AI to work together to achieve business outcomes. While AI is rapidly changing every company from the smallest startups to the largest enterprises, an AI skills gap exists today with 63% of employers citing a lack of AI skills as the top barrier to transforming their businesses. We are a critical resource to clients as they navigate this tectonic transformation. One of the world's…

Erica Gessert

Analyst

Thanks, Hayden. Upwork kicked off 2025 delivering a strong first quarter, driven by outperformance in our core marketplace. Our Q1 revenue of $192.7 million was a record for a first quarter. Our focused, disciplined approach to margin expansion was evident across our business, as our gross margin reached 78.3% and our adjusted EBITDA margin was our highest ever at 29%. We are firmly on track to achieve our five-year, 35% adjusted EBITDA margin target, and we are raising our full year 2025 adjusted EBITDA guidance. While the macro environment remains turbulent, we continue to deliver, even after multiple quarters of macroeconomic pressures. First quarter GSV of $988 million was stronger than we expected coming into the year, and we're encouraged by some early signals from continued enhancements in search, match, and other key platform capabilities, which helped to drive some positive customer spend dynamics. Average GSV per active client increased 3% year-over-year, following multiple quarters of sequential growth, giving us confidence in the value that we are driving for customers. GSV per active client grew year-over-year in every client segment. This was driven by our large client segment in which GSV per active grew 11% year-over-year. While our active client count continues to experience some pressure, this is a cumulative effect of the top of funnel demand pressure our business and many others have been experiencing over the past year. To address the challenging demand environment, we have rebalanced our performance marketing spend to focus on higher LTV clients. So while total volume of active clients may be down year-over-year, we are attracting higher quality customers and contracts. Even with these adjustments, it's worth noting that in Q1 we saw client activations increase quarter-over-quarter for the first time in over a year. As a result of these dynamics, Q1 revenue…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Eric Sheridan

Analyst

Thank you so much for taking the questions. Maybe two if I could. The first one, just on the broader economy, the base case that you're assuming from this point through the end of the year in your broader guidance and whether we should be expecting there to be any sort of input changes either in client activity or client growth that are sort of at the base of what you're sort of guiding to or is it sort of taking what you know now and just sort of projecting it out, just we better understand that. And then on the AI product side, really exciting to hear the stats in the prepared remarks about how it's driving volumes inside the broader business. How do you think about AI being a driver of a mixture either of new client growth, volumes among clients, or pricing over time, just so we understand the monetization elements of AI in the business. Thanks so much.

Erica Gessert

Analyst

Hey, Eric. Maybe -- this is Erica, I'll take the first one. We were really pleased with the customer spend dynamics that we saw in Q1, which are really driven by improvements to our product. Some of the improvements in search and match, other platform enhancements through AI, and this contributed to the increase in GSV per active client by 3%. Now offsetting that, we did see some slight macro headwinds that weighed on customer activity, particularly at the top of the funnel in the quarter. The impact was minimal, but it did have some slight impact to our customer behavior. So both of these dynamics, both the growing customer spend and a little bit on the persistent macro headwinds are factored into our guidance.

Hayden Brown

Analyst

I'll just add, Eric, that some of the observations we have from recent customer conversations really underscore the resilience of our platform in this uncertain time. What we're hearing from them is, they're feeling some degree of uncertainty in their day to day, but they still have truly mission critical business needs that they need to get done, and they're getting done on Upwork. So one example client we spoke to this quarter, [Interdata] (ph), they're a global data engineering company. They needed a bench of talent up work including some domain experts with masters and PhDs to do a lot of AI model work across 20 languages for them. And they're continuing with that work. They're plowing ahead even though they recognize the uncertain environment. And I say this is pretty typical of what we're hearing across the platform. Getting to your second question around AI and some of the stats we shared. Our view is that there's two big thematics for our business related to AI, both of which are real catalysts. And we're starting to see that. The first one is around providing the world with this AI skill talent it needs. Companies like InterData finding the people they need here and that is a driver of both new client acquisition, it can drive up volumes in the platform and certainly we've seen already that AI-related work is commanding approximately a 40% premium in terms of freelancer earnings. So it really hits on all tiers and metrics you asked about. The other thematic, of course, is the one we mentioned around Uma and the work we're doing to make our platform fully AI-native. And this is where we're already seeing some of the evidence around these features actually impacting all of the things you asked about. We're seeing more volumes of proposals and bids, new client conversion, hiring rates, contract volumes, time to hire, time to start. All of these things are moving up. So again, we see that as we make Uma more of a fully functioning agent, that is going to really drive the flywheel of metrics for our business in both of these ways. So we're excited about the progress. It's still early, but there's a lot more coming out over this year as we invest in both our AI platform category and then also the platform itself in terms of Uma.

Eric Sheridan

Analyst

Great. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Bernie McTernan with Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Bernie McTernan

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks for taking question. I just wanted to focus on the nice growth that you're seeing in larger customers mentioned up 11% in the quarter and focusing some of your marketing efforts more on higher LTV customers. Is this a shift -- I guess, is the shift driven by what you're seeing in the marketplace or more so driven just a change in LTV to cat goals? Hayden, your comments in the beginning certainly seem to want to highlight that you're seeing very large organizations choose Upwork increasingly. So just wanted to see if it's what you're doing or do you think it's the marketplace shifting? Thank you.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Yeah, so what we've seen is this combination of efforts to unlock our spend from larger customers really is working. And that's where we saw that year-over-year growth in large customer spend in Q1 when we measured across both Enterprise and Business Plus. And this is part of our focus strategy that we began last year with the release of Business Plus and with some of the changes to our Enterprise area to really go after this larger customer segment in some new ways. So it's very consistent with that, that we're seeing these results. It's still early, And as I mentioned, the first two quarters of the year will be more traditional on the enterprise side. But we're really setting ourselves up for growth towards the end of the year and into 2026.

Bernie McTernan

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Understood. Thanks, Hayden.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Yes, thanks.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Ron Josey with Citi. Your line is open.

Ronald Josey

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

Great, thanks for taking the question. Hayden, you mentioned on the call better search and recommendation product enhancements within the core, and that's helping to drive the flywheel. Talk to us a little bit more about what those enhancements were and the benefits there. And then, Erica, I think you mentioned a change in go to market, meaning something around search and client acquisition. We'd love to hear just the profile you're seeing as a result from this change in go to market. Thank you.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

So Ron, what we saw on the search and recommendation side is some new features we released around semantic search, a new recommendation experience, as well as enhancements to our client dashboards. Some of these things launched at the end of Q4 and some launched throughout Q1, but all of them together are really driving our client metrics in a really positive way. And we have a lot more that's coming. We just integrated the objective team that we bought at the end of last year into our team and their technology is also getting integrated in. So there's going to be a lot more that we're launching in the search and recommendations area that I think is going to really benefit the business.

Erica Gessert

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

And maybe Ron to your second question. Our optimization of our performance marketing spend has been really effective in kind of channel experimentation and lifting our average LTV per client acquisition, but even more importantly, kind of in the -- underlying the growth in GSV per active client on the platform, we see a lot of bright spots actually. Overall hourly rates have actually been relatively steady over the past few quarters, but where we've seen lift is an average hours per contract at 5% year-over-year, fixed price spend per contract at 12% year-over-year. And these are all related to all the customer experience improvements that we've been talking about, and in particular, the AI enablement of the platform.

Ronald Josey

Analyst · Citi. Your line is open.

Super helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Andrew Boone with Citizens. Your line is open.

Andrew Boone

Analyst · Citizens. Your line is open.

Thanks so much for taking the question. I want to go back to Business Plus. Given the fact that Business Plus is now seizing a little bit and you guys have more information, can you talk about the new clients that are coming on and kind of the evolution of what was that easier on-ramp to larger enterprises and what Business Plus is unlocking? And then Erica, sales and marketing had a multi-year low. Can you just talk about the cost guidance as it relates to 2025? I think 1Q was supposed to be the peak EBITDA margin quarter, but how do we think about potential investments or anything else that we should be thinking about for margins going forward? Thanks so much.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · Citizens. Your line is open.

On the Business Plus side of things, what that's really unlocking is a bigger funnel of larger customers, both new that are coming into the platform for the first time and existing marketplace customers who are upgrading into this offering. And so, the customer feedback and the signs we're seeing already are super encouraging here that the strategy is working. We're seeing new customers in Business Plus really adopting the features that are part of that plan at high rates. So that includes things like access to our enterprise vetted talent, access to a special short listing capability, net 30 payment terms. So these things are driving customers to then have higher client conversion rates, from registration to job post and from registration to start, as well as higher average spend per client when you compare these clients to our standard marketplace customers. So we've got really good encouraging signs of product market fit for the plan, and we're continuing to invest and tune it over the course of this year.

Erica Gessert

Analyst · Citizens. Your line is open.

Yes. And Andrew, this is Erica. In terms of your questions on kind of margin cadence and where we're investing. So, yes, sales and marketing was at an all-time low in Q1. We talked a lot in Q4 about the optimization of enterprise business, about improving those costs to serve and costs to acquire through the Business Plus strategy. And so you are seeing that reflected in our numbers. But we're also very clear, like you said, that Q1 would be the high watermark for margins for this year. And so, we do intend to reinvest. We see ample opportunities for growth in this business. Hayden talked on the prepared remarks about Enterprise -- this being a transitional period for Enterprise and we do intend to reinvest there to unlock some of the contingent labor TAM that we've been talking about. As well as on the R&D side, continued investment in the AI enablement of the platform. So you will see those investments come through in Q2 and Q3 this year. But I think we've shown over time that we can both invest in growth and create meaningful margin expansion, so we feel really good about both.

Andrew Boone

Analyst · Citizens. Your line is open.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Brad Erickson with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Brad Erickson

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Yes, thanks. You talked again about the top of funnel pressure related to the macro and it's been consistent the last several quarters, which I think is kind of the hiring and staffing environment. Talk through kind of the puts and takes as AI maybe has sort of like unclear effects on a net basis on those hiring trends and how you think that might translate to your business, if you could. Thanks.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Yeah. So our active client number overall, we've talked a lot about the kind of top of funnel demand pressure that we've seen. Our active client number is a trailing 12-month number, so that encompasses a lot of -- all of the kind of pressures we've seen over the past four quarters. Now one thing to remember about our active client activations is that, more than 50% of them come from kind of broader organic or unpaid channels. So that's where we're really seeing the macro forces play in. I don't think we see any kind of focused impact from AI, either positive or negative. Overall, we see AI as an ongoing tail end for our business given the growth of that category.

Erica Gessert

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Yes, Brad, that's really evidence of the 25% year-over-year growth we saw in GSV from AI-related work, and so we continue to see the positive opportunity here is much more substantial than any risk. We've really seen no change in terms of AI-related degradation of any kind of works or project types over the last quarter. We're really just looking at the opportunity here, which is quite formidable.

Brad Erickson

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Got it, and then maybe just to follow up, if I could, a broader question with the tariffs. I recognize the lack of exposure here. But you talk with your customers, everyone's kind of in the same boat of uncertainty, but talk about your client conversations where maybe there is exposure and I don't know, just anything sound different say with your smaller clients versus your larger clients. Just kind of if you're hearing any divergent views between those groups? Thanks.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Sure. When we talk to customers, I wouldn't say there's any one answer, partly because we serve such a heterogeneous range of customers and across so many different work categories. But a few of the thematics are, while the uncertainty is there for a lot of customers, many of them, the worst thing to do, they haven't changed their decision making around investing in the work on our platform. They're continuing because they have critical things they need to get accomplished, and the uncertainty in the environment isn't really getting in the way of that. Now of course, things can change if the economy worsens substantially but right now what we've really seen is people hanging in there, continuing to spend, continuing to do the work they need to, a slight headwind at the top of our funnel. But that's consistent with the commentary we hear from customers, which is that the work they're doing with us is essential.

Brad Erickson

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

That's great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Brent Thill with Jefferies. Your line is open.

John Byun

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open.

Hi, thank you. This is John Byun for Brent Thill. Maybe one more around the macro side of things. You mentioned there's no direct exposure from tariffs and so on. But I wanted to see if you can talk about maybe indirect or second order exposure in the public sector, whether fed or state and local, in terms of where the clients are doing their prices. I don't know if you have that sort of visibility. And then you alluded to some high impact features to launch in Q2. I don't know if you can go into a little bit more detail. Thank you.

Erica Gessert

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open.

Maybe, John, I'll take the question on the macro. We really don't see any impacts from kind of the public sector job releases and in general, as Hayden already articulated, I think, you know, we haven't seen any impact from any of the recent tariff announcements on customer behavior whatsoever.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open.

Yeah. And I'd say, you know, underscoring the fact that our exposure, I think, is in a good spot. You know, we have 131 categories of work that were active in the past quarter, and 58 of those had $1 million dollars of GSV or more flowing through them. And so, again, I think this is just where the diversity of the work happening, the diversity of our client base is a really positive thing around the resilience of our business. In terms of the high impact features that are launching in Q2, we're going to be doing a lot more in the search and recommendations area, building on the tech and the talent that we brought in last year with the objective team. We're also going to be investing a lot in our Uma AI agent, really evolving Uma from being able to do specific tasks like evaluate your candidates or help you draft a proposal to being an end-to-end full service companion that can really help customers, both clients and talent, across the entire workflow. And that is from hiring all the way through project management and work delivery. So there's going to be a lot more coming out over both Q2 and the rest of the year as we enhance Uma and bring those capabilities into the hands of our customers.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Rohit Kulkarni with the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Rohit Kulkarni

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Hey, thanks. AI high-level question. I guess it's been a few quarters you've disclosed how AI-related GSV is going faster. And so perhaps at what point or at what scale do you think AI would be big enough for the overall GSV to start growing again? Maybe at how far out in the future do you think that scale you could reach? And then I have a couple of follow ups on take rate and EBITDA.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Sure, So our expectation is that we do see re-acceleration of GSV growth next year. And that's going to come through from a combination of the AI-related investments we're making, as well as the work we're doing in the enterprise area and on [indiscernible], specifically driving the revenue side of the equation. So this is not a far out prediction for us. This is something we can see and have line of site to in 2026. And our confidence is really underscored by both the early metrics we're seeing from Uma related features that we've launched on the one hand, and then the other side of the AI strategy, the growth that as you point out, we continue to see from AI related work. They're growing 25% in the quarter. Some categories like prompt engineering grew 52% year-over-year. I'd also note that we are seeing no incremental disruption at all, no disruption at all from legal and design creative categories that people are all saying should be disrupted. We're actually seeing growth in those areas. And the work is becoming more complex, more valuable, really tapping into the specialized nature of the experts on the platform. So this is exciting for us as we think about growing from both AI related areas as well as the broader ecosystem that we host.

Rohit Kulkarni

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Okay, and then maybe actually a macro question on the Enterprise side of things. Any call out or any change in visibility or the way deals are getting closed or the way large enterprises are making decisions at the same velocity or not over the last, call it, six to eight weeks?

Hayden Brown

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

I wouldn't say we've seen any notable changes in the last six to eight weeks. We did see overall in the platform come some slower trends from the beginning of the year, but nothing has really changed on the enterprise side specifically. It's always a little bit of a large sales cycle. That hasn't changed. I think if anything, Business Plus is helping us open up more large customers faster. So that's an accelerant for us right now, but no other real changes.

Rohit Kulkarni

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Okay, thank you. And last, around take rate, maybe for you Erica, maybe talk about the why behind the take rate outlook that you just shared. I know it's unchanged from previously, but just -- there is a natural upward bias 1 would expect, but I'll just maybe talk through that.

Erica Gessert

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Sure. First of all, take rate -- the expansion that we saw in Q1 is primarily due to the really great ongoing growth in Asset Monetization. To your point, revenue from Asset Monetization Q1 grew 23%, and actually connects with highest revenue quarter ever on [indiscernible]. But as you know, we made significant progress in 2024 expanding our take rate. And so, we've really given ourselves room in 2025 for some ongoing experimentation and work on take rate in order to test some of our take rate strategies for more meaningful take rate expansion in 2026. So you can expect relatively flat take rate throughout the rest of this year as we kind of gave ourselves room for that work.

Rohit Kulkarni

Analyst · the ROTH Capital Partners. Your line is open.

Okay. Thank you, both.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Matt Shidler with Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Matt Shidler

Analyst · Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Yes. Hi, thank you. Mostly for Erica. Looking your guidance and I know you said that this would be the high water mark for your EBITDA. But If I look at what you did this quarter, being up about $8 million above the midpoint of your guidance and then compare it to your raise of the year by about $10 million, but then add to the fact that you're also increasing your stock based comp from your previous guide, respectively not raising any EBITDA for the back half of the year and keeping revenue the same. Is this conservatism or are you -- do you really have places to spend that will really change the -- particularly the sales and marketing line for the next few quarters?

Erica Gessert

Analyst · Scotiabank. Your line is open.

I think we were appropriately conservative with our guidance, but overall this really just reflects our plans to invest in, like I said, the ample growth opportunities that we have for this business. So we really do -- the benefits that we're already seeing from the investments in Uma, as well as we have plans for continued expansion of the enterprise business and investment there. So there's a lot to come, but our guidance is reflective of both our overperformance and actually a little bit of pushing through some of the incremental cost optimization that we saw in Q1 into the rest of the year. So it's a balanced outlook.

Matt Shidler

Analyst · Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Okay. And then just secondly, probably for Hayden, just help me think -- I know everybody's harping on the kind of the macro situation, but I mean, it should be on everyone's mind. Can you walk us through really how contract labor, particularly white collar contract labor where you guys focused is impacted. I know it's been actually fairly impacted already coming off of COVID and having a kind of a multi-year white collar recession. But if unemployment rate spikes, if recession occurs, how does that usually play out across your world of kind of contract labor or contingent labor?

Hayden Brown

Analyst · Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Sure. So as you kind of referenced, we have seen two years now of suppressed demand overall because of interest rates and inflation that have really been prompting customers to be more conservative to spend, to hold off on certain types of work, et cetera. And that's obviously impacted not just our business, but the broader contingent staffing space overall. And we've done better than others. Now, if unemployment spikes, there's kind of puts and takes on that for us. On the one hand, depending on the conditions in the broader economy, like interest rates, we could see customers continue to be cautious or even more cautious with spend on our platform because they're being conservative and just holding off on deploying capital or random labor. On the other hand, we've also seen in certain environments that are transitional or kind of suppressed from a broader macro that some customers prefer spending more in contingent staffing because they don't want to commit to long-term full-time employees. And so, it's likely that we see a mix of those things if the economy gets a lot worse. It's impossible to say right now what that mix would look like. But I do think it's a positive that even with the uncertainty that's really shown up over the past four months of this year, our platform is doing great. We are not seeing changes in spend other than some lighter top of funnel from the beginning of the year, but nothing new even in the last couple of weeks since some of the April announcements from the government. So I think we're in a good spot based on everything we know now.

Matt Shidler

Analyst · Scotiabank. Your line is open.

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Marvin Fong with BTIG. Your line is open.

Marvin Fong

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is open.

Great. Good evening. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe just to start, I think we've covered a lot of ground here. But on Uma, you've cited numerous benefits and other specific examples. I was just wondering at a higher level, have you done any work trying to quantify how much benefit Uma has had in terms of GSV growth? Is there any sort of single number percentage impact that you could help us think through how much so far Uma has benefited the company. And then the second question, I think you've said on the tariff question and the macro, I mean, you have noticed top of funnel some slight weakening, I think you characterized it as, but you also have said no impact from public sector, no significant impact from tariffs. So I'd just like to kind of square all those statements together. I mean, what would you attribute like the slight weakness at top of funnel that'd be great. Thanks.

Hayden Brown

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is open.

Marvin, on the Uma side of things, some of those early indicators that I shared around increasing volume of proposals, lift in hiring rates, incremental earnings, those are definitely translating into GSV gains. And that's something we have internally quantified and factored into our current guidance. And it's certainly a small contributor also to our Q1 overperformance on GSV. So we feel good about what that's doing. It's not just driving our funnel, but it is driving real spend behaviors. And that's also why we have confidence that as we continue executing our Uma roadmap, this will be a contributor to GSV acceleration in 2026.

Erica Gessert

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is open.

And maybe just to clarify, Marvin, the comments on the macro. So the impact of top of funnel that I was describing is really a Q1 phenomenon. So it predates any announcements from the federal government. And that's been -- we saw a little bit of an uptick on some of those top of funnel demand metrics in Q1, but it's been sort of an impact to our overall business. But to be clear, when the tariffs came out in April, we saw no incremental impact.

Marvin Fong

Analyst · BTIG. Your line is open.

Okay. That's very helpful. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. And as such, this does conclude today's presentation. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.