Good morning and thank you for holding. Welcome to Rent-A-Center's Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Thursday, October 29, 2020. Your speakers today are Mr. Mitch Fadel, Chief Executive Officer of Rent-A-Center; Maureen Short, Chief Financial Officer; Anthony Blasquez, Executive Vice President of Rent-A-Center Business; Jason Hogg, Executive Vice President of Preferred Lease; and Daniel O'Rourke, Senior Vice President of Finance and Real Estate. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. O'Rourke. Please go ahead, sir. Daniel O’Rourke: Thank you. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining us. Our earnings release was distributed after the market closed yesterday and it outlines our operational and financial results for the third quarter of 2020. All related materials, including a link to the live webcast, are available on our website, at investor.rentacenter.com. As a reminder, some of the statements provided on this call are forward-looking statements which are subject to many factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. These factors are described in our earnings release issued yesterday as well as in the company's SEC filings. Rent-A-Center undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. This call will also include references to non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to our third quarter earnings release, which can be found on our website, for a reconciliation of any non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call to the most comparable GAAP financial measures. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mitch.

Thank you, Daniel and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us. We will be providing a voice over to the presentation shown on the webcast that can be found on our website, at investor.rentacenter.com. We're very pleased with our third quarter performance and we've increased guidance for the fourth quarter given our stronger outlook. The teams continue to execute extremely well and we're on track to close 2020 with healthy lease portfolios and strong underlying trends in our omnichannel businesses. The changes we've made to support customers during this crisis have prioritized safety while further positioning the business for long-term growth. As you can see on Slide 3, our quarterly and year-to-date performance confirms the resiliency of our model. On a consolidated basis, our results were at the high end of our updated outlook. Revenue increased 9.6%, adjusted EBITDA rose 63% and EPS was up 121%. We're making significant progress to accelerate long-term growth and our digital investments are driving revenue and an improved customer experience across the business. Preferred Lease invoice volume grew 34% in the quarter as we onboarded new retail partners. Growth in our same-store sales increased 12.9% versus last year and 16.6% on a 2-year basis, driven by a 71% increase in ecommerce transactions at rentacenter.com. Adjusted EBITDA growth and profitability were the strongest we've seen in years. And Maureen will outline our increased guidance in a moment, but the key takeaways from my perspective are that it reflects increases to consolidated adjusted EBITDA, non-GAAP EPS and free cash flow and, importantly, is not contingent on additional government stimulus. When I think about the journey we've been on since I came back to the company in 2018, we first had to right the shift, attract new customers and dramatically reduce our expenses. Once we were…

Thanks, Mitch. I'm honored to be here with you today and look forward to sharing our plans for the Preferred Lease business as we move forward. As many of you know, I have a long history of bringing disruptive innovation to financial services via technology. I think we have a fantastic opportunity to grow Preferred Lease and I'm truly excited about the course we're setting. Turning to Slide 5, the third quarter speaks to our strong foundation. Invoice volume grew 34%, 16 points over the second quarter, as we onboarded new partners across hundreds of locations and achieved broader diversification across product categories. As Mitch mentioned, we're also becoming more efficient at activating retail partners. As you know, invoice volume drives revenue growth. Total revenue increased 9.3% in the quarter and we expect the invoice volume trend to continue to support accelerated revenue growth. Adjusted EBITDA was $16.6 million. Skip/stolen losses improved sequentially as we continued to ramp up our centralized collections initiative. The lease portfolio features higher credit quality customers that should allow us to drive revenue and yield as we increase market share. The investments we made in sales this year are supporting more efficient activation of our growing pipeline of retail partners. We're excited about partner growth across the spectrum, from regional accounts to national accounts. While the latter takes time to advance, we're in the final stages on some truly exciting national opportunities. At the same time, the strides we're making in digital are benefiting performance across the business, with improvements in collections and more of our customers using digital payments. Turning to Slide 6, our goal is to take that strong foundation and accelerate growth by driving innovation that positions our Preferred brand as the leading fintech platform, one that spans mobile and ecommerce with…

Thanks, Jason. Let me start by saying I'm a proud veteran of Rent-A-Center with a deep understanding of our culture, customers and operations. It's been a pleasure working with Jason and I look forward to continuing to share best practices. There's a lot we can do to revolutionize the customer experience and many of the things Jason outlined can be applied to Rent-A-Center and our franchisees. As Mitch pointed out, sustainability is the hallmark of the Rent-A-Center story for 2020. It played out in the third quarter, as we saw positive trends in customer retention and payment activity, even as stimulus ended. We expect growth to continue as we advance plans to improve our digital capabilities. Looking at the quarter, on Slide 7, total revenues were up 8.6% and we saw 78% growth in adjusted EBITDA. Revenue growth in the quarter was driven by a strong portfolio entering and continuing throughout the quarter with better collections. Ecommerce transactions increased 71% and its 21% penetration rate helped contribute to a 12.9% increase in same-store sales, our 11th consecutive quarterly increase. To support growth, we're adding functionality to improve the customer experience at the point of sale. That includes a multi-store ecommerce test using the Preferred Lease decision engine. We're expanding electronic payments, which is driving fewer merchandise returns and better customer payment activity. And we're incorporating digital features to improve the communication process. Our customers have clearly shown a preference for texting, for example and that's improving net promoter scores and improving labor efficiency. Turning to Slide 8. As you can see, ecommerce share of the overall revenues continued to improve during 2020 and we're driving more revenue from the channel. As we look forward, using digital to profitably evolve our lease-to-own model remains our top priority. Unlike many retailers, ecommerce is a profitable and largely incremental transaction for Rent-A-Center. The digital transaction is attracting new customers into lease-to-own which tend to have a younger demographic. Higher adoption of digital payments is resulting in better collections performance. And as a result, skip/stolens are below historical levels. As in past recessions, tighter credit reduced options for customers and we think we're taking an outsize share of that. We'll have more to share in the coming quarters and I look forward to updating you on our progress. I'll now turn it over to Maureen.

Thanks, Anthony. As we can see on Slide 9, total revenue grew 9.6% in the third quarter versus last year. Adjusted EBITDA increased 63%. Both were ahead of our original and updated guidance. Adjusted EBITDA margin increased 420 basis points versus last year, driven by leverage on strong revenues and lower expenses. Non-GAAP diluted EPS rose 121%. Digging deeper into the segment performance, on Slide 10, Preferred Lease revenue trends strengthened to 9.3% growth in this quarter as invoice volume grew sequentially. That was driven by new virtual retail partner additions and organic growth in both virtual and staffed locations. As Mitch mentioned, Preferred Lease made investments to build its sales staff, which drove pipeline growth and more efficient onboarding of new retail partners. The Preferred Lease portfolio is expected to end the year up approximately 9% versus 2019 and we expect full year 2020 invoice volume to be approximately 25% higher year-over-year. Invoice volume growth is outpacing portfolio growth, as we are accelerating the number of virtual locations while experiencing increased early payout activity the last couple of quarters. As you know, invoice volume is a leading indicator for revenue growth. We expect the quality of our portfolio to continue to benefit from higher credit tightening across the competitive environment and through enhancements we're making to our decision engine. Skip/stolen losses were 11.3% of revenue, down 710 basis points sequentially and 240 higher than last year. Skip/stolen losses benefited from improved customer payment activity and increased efficiency from our centralized collections team. Adjusted EBITDA margin for Preferred Lease was lower than last year, primarily due to a higher mix of merchandise sales driven by an increase in early payout activity. In addition, we continue to make investments to support growth. Preferred Lease EBITDA margins are expected to grow as…

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from the line of Vincent Caintic, from Stephens.

First question, on the Preferred Lease. So a lot of exciting things going on here and exciting to hear about your adding incremental partners. Just wondering maybe if you could talk about the retail partner pipeline, what sort of conversations are you having and what's the typical sales cycle before we can expect. You pointed to some final stages with national partners.

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Well, I'm sorry. I guess we had a problem with the microphone. So should I start over, I guess?

Ask if Vincent heard.

Vincent, did you hear?

No. Apologies. I didn't hear any of it. Apologies.

That's no worries. So I got a nice warm up. This will be even more polished. So we're pursuing a two-pronged approach. So on the national side, we have developed a robust pipeline where we're in late-stage discussions with a number of national retailers across verticals, both in the retail side as well as the e-com side. And our goal there is to then launch pilot programs in specific regions so that we can support them, develop metrics so that we optimize the go-to-market strategy and then to scale those programs. The second prong that we're pursuing is on our virtual merchant partnership side. And there, we are actually doing a number of things. First is, as we've mentioned in the past, we are growing our direct sales force. We are on target right now with all of our objectives from a hiring perspective, onboarding perspective there and we're seeing the results with regard to being on target with acquiring new merchant partners and, like I mentioned earlier, seeing the invoice volume increasing in a direct correlation. In addition to that, in order to optimize those returns we've implemented an inside sales approach which also enables us to utilize targeting and modeling in order to generate the most optimized leads from both a propensity to convert as well as from a yield perspective. So we're going to continue to implement both of these strategies over the coming quarters.

And maybe a comment about national partners, Jay?

So on the national partner front, we're actually very far along with regard to the both negotiation side as well as lining up pilot programs in order to get that implemented and then be able to prove out our metrics.

Okay. Great. And on a pilot program, I guess, typically speaking, from going from the negotiations to pilot to national rollout, how long would that typically take, just to frame that together?

The way, in my experience, that we do it is it's turning up the volume type of approach. So what we end up doing is we do a rolling thunder approach. And it can take place -- we don't try and be like 1 or 2 months smart. It's not quarters. It's more months when we get into that type of a rollout.

Okay. Very helpful. And the next question, on the Rent-A-Center Business side. I thought the franchising of the California stores was really interesting and just kind of wondering sort of what drove that. Are those stores kind of similar to the national footprint? And is sort of the economics that you laid out in the press release similar to national? So what we can expect if you were to franchise more stores?

Thanks, Vincent. I'll take that one. This is Mitch. There's only a couple of markets that we felt like -- as well as we've performed in the last couple of years, there's only a couple of markets that we feel would be in better hands of a franchisee and California was one of them. So you're not going to see a whole bunch of franchising. I think we've said before, we'd use it opportunistically. And like I just said, there's only a couple of markets where we think they're better off in the hands of a franchisee; and again, California being one of them. The deal we made will be essentially flat to earnings, plus the revenue -- plus the cash from selling the stores. So flat to earnings based on what we were making out there. The new agreement, the agreement with the franchisee has a 10-store growth agreement over the next 5 years. So we're actually going to have growth, which would actually be accretive to earnings. So there's only a few markets; that being one of them. So it's not like you're going to see much more on the franchising side, but it will be pretty limited. But that one, we felt really good about the franchisee can handle California better than us. And like I said, it's essentially flat to earnings, going forward, not to mention the proceeds coming in and the growth agreement that comes with it.

Your next question comes from the line of Bobby Griffin, from Raymond James.

This is Alessandra Jimenez on for Bobby. First, on the Preferred Lease side of the business, in the press release you mentioned broader diversification across product categories. Did you enter any new product categories during the quarter?

We're actually moving into a number of them, ranging from jewelry to tires to further diversification into electronics. And as I referenced a moment ago in my last answer, the ability to generate proactive leads through an inside sales approach using targeted modeling on who we call enables us to be very thoughtful with regard to how we enter into those markets. In addition to that, our decision engine enables us to very much understand the initial performance dynamics as we get into the new verticals and that enables us to make sure that we're kind of monitoring performance as we continue to turn up and then make adjustments to the both vertical as well as the region and the size of the merchant that we bring on board.

Okay. That's helpful. And then understanding higher early buyouts aspect, but is there anything else driving the large delta between the Preferred Lease merchandise sales and the rental and fee revenue?

This is Maureen. I can speak to that. The merchandise sales grew prior year-over-year because of just the macro environment and customers having more money in their pockets. And similar to a tax refund season, any time there's more money in our customers' hands, it generates more merchandise sales, early payouts, higher ownership rates for our customers, which is a great thing. And so that's contributed over the last couple of quarters to merchandise sales being higher relative to rental sales than previous quarters.

Okay. That's helpful. And then do you expect Preferred Lease revenue -- sorry. Go ahead.

Alessandra, sorry. This is Mitch. I just wanted to add to what Maureen said. One of the really positive things you see when you think about the extra payouts based on probably primarily because of stimulus earlier in the year or earlier in the quarter, not so much anymore, but that drove a lot of it. But the interesting thing is with all those extra payouts bringing all those extra revenues is that the portfolios in both businesses are still well, well ahead of last year, where on the Rent-A-Center side -- they're both actually about 9% ahead of last year, coincidentally. So the portfolios have held up great, which means as we're getting this income in on the early buyouts in both segments there's an awful lot of replacement rental agreements stacking the portfolios back up. So the Rent-a-Center side of the business stays in high-single digits, close to the double-digit same-store sales, going forward. And when you end the portfolio at the end of the third quarter at about 9%, that's a leading indicator of what the next quarter same-store sales are going to be, at least that number. And the same thing, we don't do same-store sales necessarily on the Preferred Lease side, but the portfolios are really outperforming even with all those payouts.

Okay. That is very helpful. And then last for me, have you noticed any changes in trends during October given the spike in the number of COVID cases?

Anthony, do you want to talk to that in the Rent-A-Center side, both sides (inaudible).

I would just comment that Mitch stated at the end of the third quarter the portfolio was up almost 9%. October is trending favorably for us, both from a demand as well as a payment perspective. So we feel strongly. So we haven't seen anything. And we operated as an essential business and safely served our customers and we'll continue to do that.

Alessandra, the tailwinds on household durable good products are really pretty strong, as far as people spending more money in their home on items in their home, right? So it's been strong on both the Preferred Lease side and the Rent-A-Center side.

Your next question comes from the line of Anthony Chukumba, from Loop Capital Markets.

Just had a quick question on Preferred Lease. You mentioned one of the reasons that the EBITDA margin was down year-over-year was obviously the investments that you're making and that makes a lot of sense. I guess I'm just wondering, like, how much longer do you think that investments will be a year-over-year margin headwind in that business?

Anthony, this is Maureen. If you look at the guidance that we gave for the fourth quarter, it implies around a 12% to 13.5% EBITDA margin for the fourth quarter. So you can see it's a very quick recovery from the last couple of quarters where the closures related to the pandemic impacted the business. But we're expecting sequentially to improve quarter-over-quarter with EBITDA. We're expecting higher revenue, as you see in the guidance, slightly less payouts as we get further and further away from the stimulus. With less payouts, that will be higher gross margin. We expect favorable loss trends to continue within the Preferred Lease business. And so higher margins, EBITDA margin, sequentially. And we expect them to continue, going forward, to increase as we scale the business. We've made a number of structural changes that will be permanent as we've centralized our collections into the call center. So we haven't changed our belief that EBITDA margins in that business could be 10% to 13% even in the near term.

I'll just add to that. Maureen is talking about the increase from, like, 8.5% to 13%, 12% to 13% in the fourth quarter, based on our guidance. I'd also remind you the third quarter was up about 500 basis points from the second quarter. So the sequential roll on the margins has already started.

Got it. That's very helpful color. And then just one quick follow-up, somewhat related. You mentioned in one of your slides how credit seems like it's tightening. Are you seeing that sort of trade down from a credit perspective in the Rent-A-Center Business and the Preferred Lease business? I would guess that, particularly, as subprime credit got tighter then that would be a benefit to you and you'd maybe start to see some higher credit score customers sort of entering your funnel.

We absolutely are. We can tell -- we have our own proprietary scoring system. So it's not like a credit score or something like that. But in our own scoring model, yes, the quality -- the numbers we (inaudible) are better than they were before. So yes, we're seeing a higher quality customer coming in, getting pushed down into the lease-to-own transaction as subprime. I think that slide said, like, 19% was reported, a 19% drop in sub-prime lending, back on Slide 4. And near-prime, 11%. So those are pretty big drops according to the Federal Reserve Bank. And we're definitely seeing it on our end as well.

Your next question comes from the line of Kyle Joseph, from Jefferies.

So on that note, obviously, the third quarter was very strong, both in terms of volumes and payment activity and sustainability of the positive results here. And so can you kind of walk us through how you see your business performing, going forward, if there's less stimulus, no stimulus or an equivalent amount of stimulus?

Kyle, this is Anthony. I'll take this first. So obviously, to start, the number one thing is, as Mitch commented and I echoed the sentiment, the portfolio being ahead 9% going into the fourth quarter. October is trending favorably so far. And we've really been taking a multifaceted approach to convert and retain more business across both web and in the store. And a couple of things that I would comment on that we believe is going to be really beneficial towards our sustainability is we've made a lot of enhancements to our digital payments. It's almost doubling the number of customers that are paying digitally. They're staying on rent longer. And it's allowing really our team to focus their efforts on more conversions. And then as I commented in my prepared remarks, another thing that we're seeing is we've got our decision engine that we're testing. It's live in about 10% of our stores. And initial read on that, it's allowing for a faster and frictionless approval process. So if you think about the increase in demand coming from the web, those stores that have implemented it, we're starting to see that their conversion rates are going up. So that and I would just finish with we're introducing some new product verticals. So we feel pretty good about the go-forward plan.

And I would just add to that, Kyle, looking at our guidance for the year and obviously that allows you to back into the fourth quarter, we're pretty confident in our guidance. It doesn't rely on stimulus and it's still a pretty good fourth quarter. Of course the portfolios are in great shape, going in and we have the benefit of seeing what October has done already, the majority of October. So we're confident in that. Though I wouldn't want to speculate on a stimulus program, another package, but that would only be upside to what our guidance going forward is.

Got it. Very helpful. And just from a high level, I know we don't have '21 guidance yet and there's so much uncertainty right now, but just in terms of the seasonality of the business, obviously, in the post-COVID world, in 2020, the seasonality has been turned upside down. But just going forward, would you anticipate kind of normal seasonal trends in 2021? Or is that largely going to be determined by if/when there is more stimulus?

Kyle, we'll give more guidance as far as 2021 on the next earnings call. But as we look forward, there will be some differences within the seasonality. We've always got the tax refund season that causes higher performance. Going into '21, we're obviously 9% ahead in our portfolio, which is a great leading indicator for same-store sales in the Rent-A-center Business and the invoice volume growth is significant, at 34% this past quarter. The inside sales team is doing a great job of signing on new retail partners. We've accelerated the growth in that area. And so within both businesses we're in a great position to start out of the gates in 2021 in a great position and then we'll provide more details on the next earnings call as far as the '21 guidance.

Kyle, I'll just add to that, when you think about the -- when you back into the guidance for the fourth quarter by using the annual, the fact that there's no stimulus package contemplated in that, that will be the closest thing to a run rate that you're going to have, going forward, because it's not stimulus-driven in the fourth quarter and it's a portfolio business. So you can start to look at that as -- there will be some seasonality within 2021 in any normal year, but it's going to be close to a run rate as you're going to see. As we've been able to see over the last few quarters, obviously, nothing has been run rate over the last few quarters. But when you back into your fourth quarter numbers using our annual guidance, you're going to be pretty close to run rate numbers.

Very helpful. Good point. Last one for me. In terms of the buyout activity, I know we talked about margins on a year-over-year basis being down, but can you talk about the buyout activity between the second quarter and the third quarter? Obviously, you saw gross profit margins recover sequentially. Is that a function of less buyout activity? Or what's driving that?

It is. We did see lower buyout activity in the third quarter relative to the second quarter and we think as we get further and further out from the stimulus that that will continue. So for example, in our fourth quarter guidance within both businesses we're expecting the merchandise sales as a percentage of total revenue to be lower sequentially than the third quarter. But it is contributing to the lower margins, particularly in the Preferred Lease side of the business, because it is a lower gross margin transaction. We do get more customers to ownership, which is great, but it does impact gross margins, which the initiatives that we have and the growth that we have planned in both businesses, EBITDA margins are still expected to grow because of the lower costs year-over-year with centralizing collection, some of the initiatives that Anthony talked about. That will help sustain and even grow gross margins and EBITDA margins over time.

Your next question comes from the line of Bradley Thomas, from KeyBanc Capital Markets.

This is Andrew on for Brad. Over the last few months we've heard of various supply chain disruptions across the industry, particularly in furniture and electronics. Could you comment on any supply chain or capacity disruptions you are seeing in your business or with your partners and how that's impacting the business so far?

Andrew, this is Anthony. So I can speak on the Rent-A-Center Business. So if you recall, I believe last quarter Mitch commented on our held for rent numbers and expectations that it was going to improve. And I can say sequentially it has. And as a matter of fact, we feel like we're in good position to go ahead and meet the demand for this quarter. If we just compare year-over-year we're pretty close. That being said, obviously, we all have the wish list of limitless supplies of certain things. But generally speaking, we're pretty well positioned. And really, it's a testament to our merchants and our suppliers and they've been doing a nice job to get us stocked up for the busy holiday season.

This is Jay. On the Preferred Lease side, we've actually gone and we've made the rounds with our largest partners over the past few weeks. And in a very similar sense, they have proactive game plans to work through backlog over the course of the next several months and get back onto their normal delivery time and their normal reserve inventories. So there's really sort of a digging out that's actively taking place. And now, as compared to maybe several months ago, we have more clear line of sight with very specific game plans coming off of our key large partnerships.

Understood. That's very helpful. My last question is on the customer payment activity. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about the drivers of that strong customer payment activity that you saw during the quarter and how you expect this to evolve in 4Q and perhaps even in 2021.

This is Anthony again. So customer payments have been strong. Our customers had migrated towards more digital payments, which obviously is enabling some lower delinquencies. And as I've stated earlier, it's on pace to double versus last year. And we're very intentional in our approach to pricing and the value proposition. So it's resulting in more ownership. And then the other thing that I would say is we've really invested in communication with our customers and making it much more efficient, especially through texting. We surveyed them a bunch and they've obviously told us their preference for communications. So that's improving the customer payments. And then directionally, we look at leading indicators every single day. And considering the health of the portfolio, we feel very confident going forward as well.

[Operator Instructions]. Your next question comes from the line of John Rowan, from Janney.

So first off, the decision to exit California, is that -- I understand there were certain franchisees that you were targeting to hand stores off to. But is that driven in any way by the new DFPI and looking to sidestep a new regulator in the state?

It's a combination of things. Certainly, the lease-to-own law out there from a margin standpoint is different than the rest of the country. There's a lot of -- one of the reasons we think it's better for a franchisee to operate a market like California is all the laws that are specific to California that we don't deal with nationally. So it's a multitude of reasons. It's not just sidestepping any particular regulation. Multiple reasons that we felt like that was a better situation for a franchisee.

Okay. Did you guys address the increase in the Preferred Lease skip/stolen losses year-over-year?

Well, sequentially, it's way down. It is a little higher year-over-year. I think Maureen has got an answer.

John, the year-over-year change is mainly driven by the mix shift of increasing the virtual business. We do have slightly higher loss rates in that virtual business. And as we grow the business, then it's going to put some pressure on loss rates in the Preferred Lease business. We do like that model a lot, though, because the EBITDA margins are actually fairly similar. There's higher loss rates, but lower expenses, of course, because we don't have to have labor in the stores to help generate sales. And so the EBITDA margins are favorable. But year-over-year, it does put some pressure on margins. But if you look sequentially, it's up significant -- sorry, down significantly, 11% versus about 18% in the second quarter. And we're expecting those favorable loss trends to continue into the fourth quarter. And then as we grow the virtual business, like I said, there will be pressure, but we will over all grow the EBITDA percent because it's a more efficient model, if you will.

Okay. Staying on Preferred Lease for a moment, you talk a lot about new national partners. Is there any difference in the product that you're offering? Are we looking at, just in your conversations with them, are we looking at anything that would be a second-look opportunity? Or are these all third-look? Or are we thinking about products that would potentially be outside of the typical rate scale that you have at other retailers?

There's a number of different opportunities that we're in active discussion with. Obviously, the third-look is still a critical component of what we do and how we participate when we're in a waterfall situation. But one of the other advantages that we have by launching the Preferred Digital platform and having now Version 1.0 of our mobile app in the marketplace is the ability to increase our addressable market and to also kind of get a first look at customers and be able to drive those customers into our retail partner locations proactively. So that enables us to target into kind of optimal consumer segments as well as be able to drive them into optimal verticals for us. So taking this platform approach really is going to be transformative over the course of the next several quarters as we begin to roll it out at scale.

When you talk about the waterfall, would you be a third-look possibly behind a second-look program for another lease-to-own operator? Or would you be the only lease-to-own operator in a waterfall?

There are a number of different scenarios that unfold. And so the answer to your question directly is, yes; in some situations, yes. In other situations, we're third. In other situations, we're actually first, depending on whether or not we're originating and where the customer is coming from. So it's a blend when we look at it. To the point that we were talking about earlier with regard to credit tightening and some of the benefit that we have when we are in that second-look or that third-look scenario, what we are seeing is as people have tightened up we're actually getting segment expansion, which is enabling us to be more selective with regard to our decision engine and we actually end up seeing, to the point that Mitch made earlier, an increase in average risk score, is the way that we look at it.

Okay. And then just a last question for Maureen. Is there any tax rate guidance that we should use, going forward?

The tax rate going forward will still be around that 24%. We benefited quite a bit this year from the CARES Act and some NOL carryback favorability that we were able to take advantage of. But the go-forward rate will be around 24%.

There are no further questions at this time. I turn the call back to Chief Executive Officer of Rent-A-Center, Mitch Fadel, for closing remarks.

Thank you, Jay. And thank you, everyone, for your support and for taking the time this morning to listen to our update. Things are very positive here and we're really excited about our future only getting better. And obviously, any follow-up questions we're certainly more than prepared to spend time answering them. Hopefully, the audio was better on your end than it was on our end. If it was a little choppy, we apologize. We had some audio problems on our end in the middle of the call, but hopefully it was only on our end. We apologize if it was choppy on your end. And if there was anything you couldn't hear, certainly we're more than happy to get on the line with each and every one of you to answer your questions. So thanks again and have a great day, everyone.

That concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.