Kenny Gunderman
Chief Executive Officer
Hey, David, all good questions. Look, first of all, to your comment about not anything happening, I completely disagree with. So let me go back and I'll eventually build up to that. Our strategy from the beginning was to build an operating platform, in addition to being acquisitive from an M&A front. So we wanted to have an operating platform where we could have day-to-day active interaction with the big wireless carriers. The data centric providers, the MSOs, the National carriers, the real big consumers of broadband, and fiber, and have – an have an outlet to deploy capital organically to build a fiber network and operate a fiber network in addition to being an M&A, an M&A roll-up play.. And if you remember, our very first transaction back in 2016 was the buy and operating business. It was our -- it was our first acquisition out of the gate. And for nine months after being spun out in 2015, we got the question, hey, what's going on? What's happening? And it took us a while to finally find the right first deal. And then after that, the floodgates were open. And the acquisitions that we did were a combination of platform companies that were combined with our operating business, as well as portfolios of assets. And some of those assets were structured to sell lease backs, and some of them were just straight acquisitions of assets. So it was really an M&A roll up, being a combination of operating platforms and lease backs. And today, when you fast forward to where we are, I think that strategy is working exactly as we designed. And we've got a really terrific operating platform, that’s putting capital to work, building new fibre adding new long term customers with locked in attractive economics. And we're leasing up that fibre very effectively. But we also have an M&A platform that yes, the M&A platform was somewhat on pause for a year, year and a half. But as I've said, repeatedly, we've been very active. And as we've always been, we're going to be very disciplined on the next opportunity. So I like and respect the questions about, hey, when are you going to do another deal, we're going to do another deal because to me, I think that is a compliment. That means people liked our old deals, and the ones we've done in the past, and they want to see more, and I'm all for that. But one of the things that has led to those good deals was disciplined and we were careful about doing the right ones. And that's what we're going to do. So we're active and you're going to see more of those. On page nine, you know, I think when you when you talk about these opportunities and the customers, it's important to point out most of those customers and most of those opportunities, the vast majority of these are selling dark fibre or selling longhaul wholesale contracts. And those are basically just OpCo/PropCo relationships by another name. I mean we're selling access to fibre, we're very passively managing that fibre, very light touch, very high margin, low CapEx and that's essentially the same economics that are being driven from the from the types of deals that you're referencing. The OpCo/PropCo goes in the sale leaseback, they're all very, very similar in nature. So locking in long term customers, steady economics, very low churn and so I think the customer base on page nine is highly consistent with that strategy. And yes, we love the fibre multiple. That's exactly what we're aspiring to because we are a fibre company. So I appreciate you pointing that out and loving that softball and we're actually very excited about the infrastructure bill. I think I think first of all, is another example of the sort of the bipartisan support for getting funding into the industry to help expand broadband. And so you look at the two, the two competing bills, the republican and the democratic builders, there's a lot of disparity. But one area that's relatively consistent is they're both proposing substantial dollars for broadband deployment. And we think that deployment is not at all competitive to us, it's highly complimentary. I mean, these are dollars that are going to be spent at the edge of the networks, either deploying fibre to the home in most cases, probably fibre to the home or other technologies like fixed wireless or otherwise, that are eventually going to drive traffic onto our fibre network. So we're not going to be direct recipients of any of this federal money, but we will be a derivative beneficiary of it. And we've seen that in past programmes, whether it be cares like the cares funding, or the E-rate, you name it, these are dollars they get into the industry and they find their way to an infrastructure provider like us because the service providers are using that capital to build network and they're coming to us to build that network. Our sale leaseback customers and of course, I'm talking partially about Windstream, but I'm also talking about some of the cable companies, the MSOs, the others who are accessing our network through sale leaseback or dark fiber. They're substantial recipients of RDOF. For example, we're having lots of conversations, Ron's had conversations with carriers about accessing our network all over the country, deep into some of these rural areas, as you would expect our network to go. I mean, we effectively have I like fiber deep into these areas. And so many of these recipients need fiber out onto the edge, Metro, Metro rings, fiber into the CEOs and in some cases, fiber even to the home. And so we're seeing an uplift and customer discussions related to using RDOF money to expand their networks and eventually going to be big beneficiaries there. So look, we're big supporters of the infrastructure, the broadband deployment element of the infrastructure bill. There's some other parts of it that we're not big fans of, but we're big fans of that.