Good morning and welcome to UMH Properties fourth quarter and full year 2018 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]. Please also note, today's event is being recorded. It's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Nelli Madden, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you. Ms. Madden, you may begin.

Thank you very much operator. In addition to the 10-K that we filed with the SEC yesterday, we have filed an unaudited annual and fourth quarter supplemental information presentation. The supplemental information presentation along with our 10-K are available on the company's website at umh.reit. I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this conference call, which are not historical facts, may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on our current expectations and involve various risks and uncertainties. Although, the company believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, the company can provide no assurance that its expectations will be achieved. The risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in the company's annual 2018 earnings release and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company disclaims any obligation to update its forward-looking statements. In addition, during today's call, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial metrics. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial metrics to the comparable GAAP financial metrics as well as explanatory and cautioning language are included in our earnings release, our supplemental information and our historical SEC filings. Having said that, I would like to introduce management with us today: Eugene Landy, Chairman, Samuel Landy, President and Chief Executive Officer, Anna Chew, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer and Brett Taft, Vice President. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to UMH's President and Chief Executive Officer, Samuel Landy.

Thank you very much, Nelli. I am pleased to report our results for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2018. 2018 was another great year for UMH, during which we continue to successfully execute our long-term business plan. 2018 was highlighted by our portfolio growth, earnings growth, improvement in our sales operation and the strength of our operating platform. We grew our portfolio of manufactured housing communities by 7% to 118 communities containing 21,500 developed homesites. Our total revenue increased by 15% to $130 million. This growth was primarily driven by a 12% increase in rental and related income and a 45% increase in sales revenue. This was our eighth consecutive year of delivering double-digit growth of rental and related income and our third consecutive year of delivering double-digit sales growth. Community net operating income increased by 13%. This strong operating performance resulted in normalized FFO of $27.5 million, representing a 27%, increase over 2017. On a per-share basis, normalized FFO increased 12% to $0.74 per share. During the year, we acquired six communities containing 1,600 developed homesites for a total purchase price of $59.1 million. These communities were acquired with a weighted average occupancy rate of approximately 79%. Three of the communities are in Indiana and three are in Ohio. These communities have a significant upside potential through filling vacant sites, raising rents to market, submetering utilities and developing additional sites. The properties are generally in good condition and will require a shorter turnaround period than some of our previous acquisition. Our acquisition pipeline currently consists of two communities containing 1,200 sites for a total purchase price of approximately $45 million. The acquisition market remains very competitive, which has closed cap rates to remain at or near all-time lows. We are optimistic about our ability to source…

Thank you Sam. Core funds from operation or core FFO was $7.4 million or $0.19 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2018 compared to $6.6 million or $0.19 per diluted share for the prior-year period. Normalized FFO, which excludes realized gains on the sale of securities and other nonrecurring items, was $7.4 million or $0.19 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2018 compared to $6.3 million or $0.18 per diluted share for the prior-year period. For the full year 2018, core FFO was $27 million or $0.72 per diluted share, compared to $23.5 million or $0.71 per diluted share for 2017. Normalized FFO was $27.5 million or $0.74 per diluted share for 2018 compared to $21.7 million or $0.66 per diluted share for 2017, a 12% increase on a per-share basis. Rental and related income for the quarter was $29.6 million compared to $26.1 million a year ago, representing an increase of 13%. For the full year, rental and related income increased from $101.8 million in 2017 to $113.8 million in 2018, an increase of 12%. These increases were primarily due to community acquisitions, the addition of rental home and the growth in occupancy. Community NOI increased by 10% for the quarter from $13.9 million in 2017 to $15.4 million in 2018. For the full year, community NOI increased from $54 million in 2017 to $60.9 million in 2018, an increase of 13%. This is the eighth consecutive year that we have achieved double digit year-over-year NOI growth. As we turn to our capital structure, at year-end we had approximately $439 million in debt of which $331 million was community level mortgage debt and $108 million were loans payable. 77% of our total debt is fixed rate. The weighted average interest rate on our mortgage debt…

Thank you Anna. UMH is very well positioned for the future. We have selectively built our portfolio asset-by-asset over the past 51 years. We believe that we have invested in value-add communities with vacancies in markets that are poised to experience economic growth resulting in a future of higher occupancy levels, rents and property value. The bridge to the future is provided by our rental home program. Rental homes give us the ability to continue to grow revenue, because financing for potential home owners has been difficult to obtain. Rental homes also provide a vehicle to quickly stabilize and improve the operating results at our recent acquisitions. Once the community reaches stabilization, we can finance or refinance the community recouping much of our investment. Our sales operation has returned to profitability. While we are happy with this accomplishment, we believe that sales can be a major profit center for the company in years to come. UMH's rent roll currently annualizes at approximately $120 million. Each year, we raise rents 4%, which should result in an additional $5 million in rental and related income this year. Over five years revenue growth on our existing portfolio from rent increases can be $25 million in additional revenue. UMH currently has 3,900 vacancies. Once occupied, these vacant sites will generate an additional $20 million in revenue and net $11 million. Our housing product is highly competitive with apartments of conventional single family homes in both price and quality. The housing market remains strong. There is simply not enough affordable housing being constructed. The current housing shortage is becoming more severe. In many states, they are beginning to experience an affordable housing crisis. Affordable housing is one of the only issues that can go on a bipartisan support. The manufactured housing industry is well-positioned to help the country to develop much-needed affordable housing. At some point, all our vacant sites will be full. At that point, the industry will have to develop new manufactured housing communities. We are at the forefront of working with federal, state and local officials to be able to develop new communities. The mission of UMH has always been to provide quality affordable housing. That mission is as important now as it has ever been. We are very proud of the company we have built and the service that we provide. We will now be happy to take questions.

[Operator Instructions]. And our first question today comes from Rob Stevenson from Janney. Please go ahead with your question.

Good morning guys. Sam, you talked about the two properties in your acquisition pipeline, $45 million price tag, I believe. What's the occupancy there? Is that sort of in that sort of 70% to 80% range that you have been acquiring at recently? Higher? Lower? How should we be thinking about that?

Brett will answer that. Go ahead Brett.

Yes. So those two communities actually have a little bit of a lower occupancy rate. The blended occupancy rate is 63%. One of the properties is at 86% and the other property is at 51%. The second property is actually an 800 space community. So we believe that in the long-term we can generate some substantial value.

How much do you guys think that you are going to have to put in to the properties over and above the $45 million price tag to get them to where you need to be?

Not as much as some of our previous acquisitions going back a few years. As we mentioned on a couple earnings call earlier this year, the quality of our pipeline is a lot higher than it has been in the past. So our primary investments will be in rental homes and some capital improvements paving streets and upgrading the infrastructure, but not nearly as much as some of the previous acquisitions.

Okay. And then what's the cost that you expect to spend to develop the 500 new sites that Sam was talking about delivering this year?

Yes. Sam here. That's going to be approximately $60,000 per site.

Okay. And then that's just the site itself? That doesn't include putting a home or anything else on it, right?

Correct. Right. That's having a site ready for a house.

And if I could just add to that, we try to do it two ways. We build a park for $50 million and then we hope to sell the homes and have the homes in the park where we could also make it an all rental park. We are very proud of our Memphis Blues project in Memphis, Tennessee and that's the first park ever built that's all rental. We build the park which cost $50,000 to $60,000 a site and we buy homes for $60,000 each. We have created a living unit of over 1,000 square feet, three bedrooms, two bath for a combined price of less than $100,000, sometimes a little more than $100,000 which, if you know, the cost of housing today it's about $250,000 to $300,000 for an apartment and that's only one or two bedrooms. We have three or four bedrooms.

While you are on that asset, where is occupancy there today? And how much you are sort of adding a month there?

So Memphis Blues, the first phase was 37 lots, which is 98% occupied or something like that. And we will be building the next 50 lots. It's under construction right at this moment and demand is very strong.

And I just wanted to say that the first phase was 100% filled up within less than 12 months.

And there is no government program to put a mortgage on the land and the homes. But we are working with the government and we are very confident that we are going to be a pioneer and get a government sponsored entity to give us a very nice mortgage on both land and home. But we have to complete the second phase and get the occupancy.

Okay. And then when you guys are sitting there today thinking about the communities and the rental homes that you guys are likely to purchase and install new communities this year, et cetera, where is the internal sort of bogey for occupancy in the portfolio 12 months from now when you are reporting year-end 19 results? I mean, how significant could the bump wind up being over the course of the year?

So last year, we added 800 rentals. When you count the acquisitions, it's 900 homes. But we also removed approximately 700 homes total from communities we owned or acquired. That's a major benefit. Those old 1970 homes needed to be removed. It's a major upgrade to the community to take those out and replace those with new. And I think we did exactly what we projected to do before 2018 began that we would raise rents 4%, which amounts to $4 million and we would add 800 rental units and go ahead $6.4 million in revenue there. And I project we will do exactly the same for 2019 and in fact the December rent roll indicates that we are already are going to be about $9 million ahead at year-end, which is right on target.

If I could add one other thing, we have really upgraded that community. And we encourage all our investors to go on our website. We have videos. Some of them are done by drones and the parks are first-class and we really encourage everybody to see the properties that UMH owns today. I can assure you, the quality is much better than it was three or four years ago.

Okay. And then one for Anna. Obviously, the securities portfolio balance has bounced back, given the first quarter REIT market rally. Have you guys invested any incremental capital into the securities portfolio since December 31?

Very minimal. What we do is, we do our dividend reinvestment plan, which we reinvest our dividends back in Monmouth. That's pretty much all that we have done since year-end.

Okay. So no new stocks added to the portfolio. Just you reinvest the dividend?

No new names.

Okay. Perfect. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

No problem.

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Craig Kucera from B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead with your question.

Hi. Good morning guys. I wanted to ask you about the same-store operating expense increase which was pretty sizable. Can you provide a little more additional color on that?

Sure. One same-store, in quarter four we had a little bit of an increase in insurance expense. What had happened is, is we had mid-year renewals and of course that went up a little bit. So in Q3, it went and then in Q4 it went up a little bit more because we did also have some audits which came in, in Q4. We also had an additional, year-over-year we had additional 600 rental homes that we added in same-store, so that increased. And also if you look at our bad debt, it increased. But if you look at the total, if you look at it as a percentage of rental and related revenue, that total was 1.25% versus 1.29% in the prior year.

Got it. So it doesn't sound like there was any meaningful tax true-up drop or anything? It was other items, correct?

No. That's correct.

Got it. And then just to follow up on the acquisitions. Are you still on track to close those in the second quarter? Or when are you expecting to get those closed?

Yes. It's hard to say exactly. We are hoping for the end of the second quarter, but it may push off in to the third quarter.

There is loan assumptions involved. So it's hard to say because of that.

Got it. And with the large pickup in sales, certainly in the back half of the year, is first quarter still trending very strong?

Yes. An important point, going back to the fourth quarter, our applications were up 21.5% and our approvals were up 29%. And we see the trends continuing. We see sales strengthening. But as good as sales are, nothing today compares to what things were like in the 1990s or 2002 through 2006. We still haven't come anywhere near that type of activity that we used to have. On the rental front, the acceptance of the product by the customer is fantastic, which is why we rent 800 homes and maintain our 92%-plus rental home occupancy. So we are always excited about sales. But the rentals, people really have to understand that because of the improvements of the quality of the house that we have a better product than ever as rental housing and it's being accepted and doing fantastic.

Got it. And just one more, just moving to the securities portfolio. Do you have a sense of what the current mark is relative to where you guys were in the fourth quarter as far as the recovery in value?

We are up about 16% from the year-end, which was why we were up more than that, but it's drifted off now. As Anna pointed out, the portfolio was very volatile. The swing can be million of dollars in a day. But under these new accounting rules, we expect the first quarter to report a profit on the securities from the low point of December 31.

Got it. All right. Thanks. I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Blake Gesik from University of Oregon Investment Group. Please go ahead with your question.

Hi. Good morning everyone. So my first question is about the mortgage vehicles moving forward and just looking at that. So the next three years, the average weighted cost of mortgages were substantially higher that weighted average cost. I was wondering how the plans for the refinancing of those mortgages are looking? And just the thought process moving forward on those loans?

Well, we have approximately four loans that are coming due in 2019 and 2020 and those loans are at an weighted average interest rate of 5.9%. So we expect that when we refinance those loans, we would like to use again either one of the GSEs, either Freddie or Fannie and they will qualify. But we expect that when we refinance those loans, we will have reduced interest rates. The interest rate went from 4.24% to 4.29%. So it's a minimal increase in 2018, but we expect that we will maintain that because the loans coming due are at 5.9%.

If I can add to that and Anna does a wonderful job on the mortgage refinancing, the government sponsored entities are very important to the manufactured housing industry and they are very important to providing affordable housing for the nation. And so we think these programs exist today. They are not anything what we are proposing for the future. They are great programs. And if they continue, our projections are that we are going to be able to refinance our parks substantially over the next decade. In fact, that's one of the main things we do that we plan to do is to fill our parks, get rental increases over long period of time and use the government programs to recycle our capital back to us and our shareholders. And it's so important that it continues. We don't think that there is any great chance that the government sponsored entities will be changed because so many other industries in the housing industry depend on them was well. But it is a real plus for us and it's really important for people to understand that when they analyze UMH Properties.

Got you. Sounds really good stuff. So another question I had is about the securities portfolio and looking forward. Since the accounting changes with fair market value, are you seeing, are you going a more defensive stance moving forward with the portfolio, given the increased volatility in the market and maybe even consider moving some of that into the fixed income market? Or you exclusively going to long on REITs exclusively in the portfolio? What is the thought process, just to maintain the liquidity aspect and the actual capital preservation moving forward?

We have maintained that our first position is, we keep the securities for liquidity. Our second position is that we really believe in REITs. We think real estate investment trusts are liquid real estate and that if you invest in REITs, you are buying properties and we are very bullish on properties. And for the whole REIT industry now and it's happened before over the decades, REITs are now selling at a discount from the net asset value. That's not unusual. And at times, they sell at discounts of 5% or 10% and at times they sell at premiums of 5% to 10%. What is a little unusual, right now we have had a couple of portfolio companies that have really not done well and we are watching them very closely. But we have been in these portfolios a long time and our overall history investing in REIT is that in the long-term, they do as well as owning the properties directly.

Got you. One last question for Anna.

A change in the portfolio, this is a small percentage of the company. We are working on the pipeline for acquisitions and we are working on building parks and we are investing in rental homes and so our capital structure is very important to us. And the primary thing is to have the capital to buy the homes, to improve the parks, to make acquisitions and to expand some of the existing parks. And all those the capital needs, they may run $100 million and the changes in the securities portfolio would be a small fraction of that.

Got you. Perfect. So Anna, one last question for you before I get off. So I was wondering if there would be any possibility to break down the rental and related income on what that split looks like for that year, to say this portion came from rental units, this portion came from land leases and the rest of it came from other utility fees or something along those lines and just try and get a better understanding of what that distribution looks like for the entirety of that line item, because that's not broken out currently though.

Well, we have in our supplemental and also in our investor presentations how many rental units we have and how much is the average rental income of each unit. And we have approximately 30% of our rental income is derived from our rental units. So I think that would be a good number to use.

Got you. So you are hoping to maintain that number into the foreseeable future? Or you are going to try to increase that given the number of sites and also higher occupancy?

Given the number of sites and given that we intend to increase our rental portfolio by approximately 800 units a year, we want to put 800 new units into our communities, I believe that that will increase.

Got you. Perfect. Thank you.

And then lastly, we only have 3,900 vacant sites.

Our next question comes from Brian Rohman from Boston Partners. Please go ahead with your question.

Hello. Good morning.

Good morning.

A bunch of different questions. The securities portfolio, I think it was Gene who referenced this, he doesn't have to answer the questions, whoever wants to answer the question. There are several securities that have been under pressure and underperformed. Could you just mention those names?

No. We only have an hour to discuss UMH. We have 12 companies in the portfolio. They are public companies. They do their own reports. We read all those reports. We circulate them. And there are five, six analysts that cover each of the companies. And so for those who think it's material, you are really welcome to get the names of the companies and do your own research on the companies. But it's just not practical for me to --

No. You misunderstood. All I am asking you is, I know CBL is one of them. What were they really, like two or three names. Just on the --

We have a listing of our total portfolio in our 10-K on Page 78.

Okay. Fine. I will go there.

Thank you.

And the preferred debt that you have issued, you issued some more in 2018. Do you anticipate using that as a financing vehicle in 2019?

Absolutely. When you study REITs and study our performance, we think one of the pillars of capital should be preferred and it gives you leverage. And normally with leverage you increase risk and normally with the leverage bad things are going to happen. But when you issue perpetual preferreds, you get all of the benefits of leverage and the risk is nominal. Even the change in interest rates in five years, they are callable. We think preferreds are one of it. From a financial engineering viewpoint, they are a wonderful vehicle. For the investor, they get a higher rate of return and if the market is there, they get liquidity even though they are perpetual. And from the point of view of the REIT, we get permanent capital at a fixed rate and we are just enamored with it and we know some of the best run REITs, such as Public Storage has had a wonderful record by concentrating on using preferred as a growth vehicle. So the market right now for the last year has been virtually closed. I think at one point, there were only four public REITs that issued preferred and there were probably 40 that called preferred. So we really think the market is going to open up and we hopefully will be issue preferred. But we are always sensitive to rates and we also want to take the money down at approximately the time we are going to use it.

So you are saying right now it's relatively difficult to issue preferreds. Is that what you are saying?

I am saying what I said. The rate, the difference between what the public companies want to pay and what the investors want to pay. And when you get that, you get no new issuances. If we wanted to pay a higher number, a preferred with a seven in front of it, instead of a six in front of it, we could issue a preferred tomorrow. But we would prefer to issue, what did we do in the last preferred at? At 6.25%?

6.375%.

Yes, 6.375%.

Yes. And if you could do that and you are saying today it would be significantly higher?

No. It will be higher.

Okay. Fine. And acquisitions for 2019. I am sorry, did you give a number of what you expect? And is it also driven by your access to the preferreds market?

No.

No.

Yes. I will just follow up on that. So we have two communities under contract right now. It's about 1,200 home sites, 63% occupied for a total purchase price of $45 million or about $37,000, $38,000 per bed.

Okay. So that's what's on the table right now? And you have liquidity to do that, regardless of whether or not you can finance it in the preferreds market. Is that correct?

That's correct.

Okay. And then, just one other quick question. You made reference to this and I noticed it on page 14. You said you basically look at four homes per acre. Is that the right number?

Well, if we are building sites and you ask where do we think the yield there will be, it will be about four homes per acre, correct.

And then the acquisitions that are listed on page 14, they actually line up exactly with that number, about four per acre.

And I will point out while you are on that subject that Newmark Knight Frank just wrote the Manufactured Housing white paper of 2019 and they rate communities based on star rating, five star, four star, three star, two star, one star. And one of the things they look at is sites per acre with five star being four to seven homes per acre, four star being six to nine sites per acre and three star being seven to 10 sites per acre. So almost all of UMH communities are four to five star. And to the extent someone might call one of our communities that we acquire a three star because of the age of the homes when we acquired it, we convert those communities to four and five star communities through our capital improvements and our additional rental.

And then last question and I can follow-up later. Do you think you get higher rents per property with a lower density?

Well, so the number one factor in the rents is location, because I have seen, take Florida or California, more than 20 homes per acre with the highest rents I could ever dream of. So location is more of a factor, but then the density, that could go to the quality and could increase the rents, if lower density could be higher quality and could increase the rents.

Alright. Thank you. Thanks for answering my questions. Thanks for your time.

Our next question comes from Tony Gleeson from Carnegie Lake Capital. Please go ahead with your question.

Good morning folks. I am glad to see that sales have turned to profit. That's a great sign. A couple of questions. I was a little confused on the share count. On page two of the presentation, it was 32.6 million, page 8 is 35.4 million and I am looking at Bloomberg right now, it says 37.8 million. So I am trying to figure out what's the actual share count as of year-end 12/31?

Last I looked it was moments ago, it was 38 million shares. But Anna is looking in the sup.

If you are looking at page three of the supplemental, the 32.7 million was as of 12/31/17.

I am sorry. Okay. Alright. And the 35.4 million on page eight?

That's the weighted average shares outstanding. It's not the shares at the end of the year. That's the weighted average over the whole year of 2017 and 2018.

Got it. Okay. So total outstanding right now is 38 million?

Correct. Well, as of 12/31.

Got it.

And that's a different number, because I just opened this up, 36,870,000.

That's the weighted average outstanding for the year.

Okay. So if you are issuing shares towards the end of the year, then those would be counted as less, because they are not fully in the year number?

Correct. It's averaged.

Okay. Thank you for that. So can you grow the company in 2019 without issuing equity?

When you say can we, our policy is to be careful and to be safe. And if we want to issue $100 million or $200 million in preferred, we really have to have a good capital base and coverage. And so we have continued to issue common stock through the dividend reinvestment, shareholder investment plan, because that gives us a continual flow of capital to buy these homes and do the expansions. We need $100 million budgeted for 2019 and we could probably borrow the $100 million, but prudence dictates that we add some capital. And hopefully, as I stated, we think the preferred market is going to open up and we are going to get a very nice infusion of capital in the REIT preferred securities.

Right. Okay. Well, the share count keeps growing at that same rate as revenue. So we are never getting the traction on a per share basis. So I think that's really the crux of my question.

While our normalized FFO did go up this year 12%, 13%. So we are making progress in that respect. We are being able to use the equity that we have generated, the equity that we have raised in order to generate positive earnings.

Yes.

It's just a lot of confusion. We are hopeful that over the next three to five years, we are going to go to a 100% occupancy and we are hopeful over the next three to five years, we will have 20% higher rents, because the value of these homes, we rent them $750, $800 a month and the competition is $1,100 a month. And the cost that we produce these products, sites and homes is much higher. So we think we can really justify much higher rents. So with full occupancy and with higher rents, the company is going to generate a great deal more income. But we are careful to issue more capital, not issue too much more capital. But on the other hand, we want the ship to complete its voyage safely and so we keep issuing equity so that we don't get ourselves in a position where there is a shortage of capital. I note that we watch what the other REITs do. Some REITs have deleveraged a $1 billion, $2 billion and cut their earnings $50 million or $100 million. Other REITs have leveraged up. We want to keep the leverage which we think is low leverage, approximately where we are now on a percentage basis. So we don't think that when we have finally reached our goal of full occupancy and higher rents, we think the per share numbers will be better, not the same.

Okay. Well, I am hopeful the stock goes to $20 as well, but I think issuing more equity makes it harder to do. That's all.

It does in one respect. And the other is, though, that everybody is bullish on the manufactured housing industry. Two of the best performing REITs, of course, are Sun Communities and ELS. And they sell at, I don't know, 24 times earnings. So if we could make $1, we are hopeful that some day if not $24, it will be $20. But our small size is a handicap. We are very pleased to see that so many people like favorable reports on the industry and what a great industry we are in and that solution to the affordable housing crisis is manufactured homes. And then they say, well, there's only two public REITs, because we haven't reached the size and crossed the threshold. So while issuing more stock under conventional economics and security studies may seem to be not the thing to do. On the other hand, the increased size gets us closer to be included with the other two when they write these favorable reports.

Okay. Well, I hear you. Second, the REIT portfolio is creating a lot of angst and tension and certainly last year was not a particularly good year for the portfolio. Awkward question here, will management and directors' compensation be affected given the $50 million loss?

Well, let me answer it this way. We would be very happy if this company, the earnings will be done on, what is the European accounting system called, Anna?

It's a fair-market accounting.

Fair-market accounting. I mean, you want to use fair-market accounting and fix our revenues, we would be very happy to do that. We have 20,000 sites. They go up in value $100 million and the securities went down $24 million. So we think if you want to go to fair-market accounting and measure management performance, we would vote for that too.

Well, okay. I will take that as a no. I think it's worth considering that as a signal to shareholders that you share the pain in a portfolio loss. That would be my perspective, but I appreciate you are answering my question. Thank you.

Okay.

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question is a follow-up from Craig Kucera from B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead with your follow-up.

Hi guys. Just a quick one here. You mentioned the shorter turnaround period on your recent acquisitions. I think historically it's usually been about a three-year timeframe from when you buy a new acquisition and have to rip out some of the old homes, et cetera. Does that get you down, are you talking maybe about like a two-year timeframe? Or can you just elaborate a little bit on how quickly you could bring those up to a stabilized level of occupancy?

Yes. Again, it does all depend asset by asset. They are all going to be different. I think if you look back at 2015, 2016 and older, those were probably your three-year turnaround period. But if you look at 2017, which unfortunately just missed out on our same-store numbers, we have really generated some substantial increases in occupancy revenue and ultimately NOI and property value. So I think two years is probably a closer estimate on those, but again yes, we ultimately will continue to evaluate all acquisitions, whether it be a two or a three-year turnaround period.

Okay. Thanks.

And ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will conclude today's question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference call back over to Samuel Landy for any closing remarks.

Thank you operator. I would like to thank the participants on this call for their continued support and interest in our company. As always, Gene, Anna and I are available for any follow-up questions. We look forward to reporting back to you after our first quarter. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference has now concluded. We do thank you for attending today's presentation. The teleconference replay will be available in approximately one hour. To access the replay, please dial U.S. toll free at 1-877-344-7529 or internationally using 412-317-0088. The conference ID number is 10127590. Thank you and please disconnect your lines.