Good morning, and welcome to the UMH Properties Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2017 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Nelli Madden, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you, Ms. Madden, you may begin.

Thank you very much, operator. In addition to the 10-K that we filed with the SEC yesterday, we have filed an unaudited annual and fourth quarter supplemental information presentation. The supplemental information presentation, along with our 10-K, are available on the company's website at umh.reit. I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this conference call, which are not historical facts, may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. The forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on our current expectations and involve various risks and uncertainties. Although the company believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, the company can provide no assurance that its expectations will be achieved. The risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in the company's annual 2017 earnings release and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company disclaims any obligation to update its forward-looking statements. In addition, during today's call, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial metrics. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial metrics to the comparable GAAP financial metrics, as well as explanatory and cautionary language, are included in our earnings release, our supplemental information, and our historical SEC filings. Having said that, I would like to introduce management with us today, Eugene Landy, Chairman; Samuel Landy, President and Chief Executive Officer; Anna Chew, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Brett Taft, Vice President. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to your UMH's President and Chief Executive Officer, Samuel Landy.

Thank you very much, Nelli. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We are pleased to report our results for the fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2017. This year, we achieved many milestones, including increasing the size of our manufactured home portfolio to 112 communities containing 20,000 developed home sites, inclusion in the MSCI REIT index, reaching an all-time high stock price of $17.90 and solidifying our capital structure. UMH has been able to successfully expand our business by acquiring communities that were adversely impacted by economic, demographic and regulatory factors. We believe all of those factors are now improving and are resulting in increased manufactured home sales and occupancy in all of our communities. The improvements we have made to these communities combined with the increased demand have resulted in increased occupancy and income significantly adding value to our portfolio. In 2017, we strengthened our balance sheet by reducing our perpetual preferred cost and position the company for future growth. This was accomplished by redeeming our 8.25% Series A preferred stock and issuing a new 6.75% Series C preferred stock. This 150-basis point reduction will result in $1.4 million in annual preferred dividend savings going forward. The new issue had strong demand allowing us to not only redeem the 92 million of existing 8.25% Series A preferred, but we also raised an additional $47 million to fund our future acquisitions, our rental home program, capital improvements, and expansions. Our 2017 earnings were impacted due to the expenses associated with completing this transaction and the temporary dilution associated with carrying the additional preferred until it became fully deployed at the end of December. Normalized FFO for the year was $21.7 million or $0.66 per diluted share, compared to $18.4 million or $0.66 for the prior year…

Thank you, Sam. Core funds from operations or core FFO was $6.6 million or $0.19 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2017, compared to $5.7 million or $0.20 per diluted share for the prior-year period. Normalized FFO, which excludes realized gains on the sale of securities and other non-recurring items was $6.3 million or $0.18 per diluted share for the fourth quarter of 2017, compared to $5.3 million or $0.18 per diluted share for the prior-year period. For the full-year 2017, core FFO was $23.5 million or $0.71 per diluted share, compared to $20.7 million or $0.74 per diluted share for 2016. Normalized FFO was $21.7 million or $0.66 per diluted share for 2017, compared to $18.4 million or $0.66 per diluted share for 2016. As Sam mentioned, our 2017 earnings were impacted by the expenses associated with the redemption of our Series A preferred stock and as a temporary dilution from the additional proceeds from the Series C preferred stock until it was fully deployed. Our recent acquisition of five communities for $22.8 million in December should provide accretive earnings going forward. Rental and related income for the quarter was $26.1 million, compared to $23.4 million a year ago. Representing an increase of 12%, primarily due to community acquisitions, the addition of rental homes, and the growth in occupancy. Community NOI increased by 12% for the quarter from $12.7 million in 2016 to $13.9 million in 2017. This is the seventh consecutive year that we have achieved double digit year-over-year NOI growth. Our REIT securities portfolio continue to deliver strong results increasing from $109 million at year-end 2016 to $133 million at year-end 2017, representing 13% of our growth asset value at year-end and with an unrealized gain of $11.5 million. Our securities portfolio generated $8.1 million…

Thank you and Anna. As Founder and Chairman of the Board of Directors, I am pleased with the substantial progress UMH has made over our 50-year history. We have grown UMH to 112 communities containing a little over 20,000 sites. Our total revenue in 2017 was $113 million and continues to increase. Our overall operations continue to improve, driving the company to greater profitability. Our balance sheet is strong and will allow us to make sound investments further increasing earnings and generating income for shareholders. All these positive operating metrics should result in an increased share price and enhanced returns for our long-term shareholders. From a short-term perspective this has unfortunately not been the case with our REIT and the REIT industry in general, due to fears of rising interest rates. After hitting an all-time high stock price of $17.90 in 2017, our share price has since retreated. Our REIT securities portfolio has also seen a decline in value since year-end. However, when interest rates are rising because of a strong economy REIT’s historically have still done well. Management remains optimistic. Public companies are currently trading at significant discounts at the value of our properties. Private real estate valuations remain at all-time highs and cap rates have continued to compress. Therefore, we anticipate that REIT share prices will appreciate to better reflect the underlying real estate value. The housing market is strong. Affordable housing is in short supply. Our basic business of owning and operating manufactured home communities is well conceived. The vacant sites we have acquired over the past few years will be a conduit to future earnings growth as we fill these sites with rental and sales homes. Our operating platform will become more efficient as we continue to acquire and fill additional new sites. We will now be happy to take questions.

[Operator Instructions] The first question today comes from Jim Lykins with DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

Good morning everyone and first a question about acquisitions, you mentioned 50 to 75 million in 2018, can you give us a sense of timing, how should we be thinking about baking these acquisitions in your model this year?

Yes, this is Brett Taft here Vice President. So, timing of the acquisitions, we expect $20.5 million to close in the second quarter. The remaining $55 million to close throughout the second half of the year and possibly into 2019.

Okay. And you also mentioned cap rates being at historic lows, can you just maybe be a little more granular, give us the sense for what you're seeing out there right now with cap rates?

Yes, we’ve seen cap rates in our markets, which over the last few years we have been able to acquire properties in the 7.5% to 8.5% range dip down to the low sixes and even into the mid-5s for quality properties. I'm sure if you look at some of the other operators in Florida and California, sun belt states you will see cap rates even lower than that.

Okay, that’s very helpful, and one last one for me. You also mentioned you expect the expense ratio to further decline, any more color you can give us on how you see that trending in 2018?

Yes. First, I will point out that the acquisitions done over the last 12 months, five of those communities have increased revenue greater than 30%. Hillcrest Crossing in the Pittsburgh area had revenue increase 51% or $125,000 annually. Parke Place had revenue growth of 44% or $579,000 annually. So, the new communities we’re going to add revenue and bring the expense ratio down. We have 39 communities that are still below 80% occupancy and communities don't become efficient until they have greater than 80% occupancy. So, as we achieve those results, the expense ratio will further drop.

Great. Thanks guys.

The next question comes from Rob Stevenson with Janney. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Good morning guys. Just to follow-up on the acquisition question, I think last quarter when you guys talked about the Pennsylvania transaction and everything that there was a second tranche of like $57 million of properties that you thought might close in February or March, is that now the stuff that has been sort of pushed out to second quarter or did that fall through for various reasons, can you talk a little bit about what happened to that and what of that is still in the numbers or what dropped out?

Yes, so the $57 million that we mentioned on the last call that deal is still alive. It’s just been pushed back because of loan assumptions and other due diligence things. So that’s what we think will close in the second half of the year, possibly one tranche of that in 2019. The 20.5 million is a new deal that we had under contract towards the end of last year that we expect to close in the second quarter.

And I just wanted to add, I am sorry, I just wanted to add that the original $20 million that we expected to close in the first quarter of 2018 actually closed in December, at the late December of 2017.

Okay. All right great. And then Sam does the company have a share repurchase program in place currently?

Yes, it’s approved by the Board of Directors. We’ve never used it, but it exists.

Okay.

We are reserving our capital for expanding the company. We believe these acquisitions, we are buying parks and communities substantially below the cost of building new communities and we believe we can take an older community and revitalize it and modernize it and have an excellent earning asset, and we do think our pipeline will be - what are we projecting 50 million, 75 million - 75 million for this year and so the first thing on our agenda is to have the capital to keep our acquisition program going, and in addition we do the rental program, which is 800 units a year, about $32 million, and so our capital needs are in a range of $100 million a year.

Okay. Well I guess the question then would wind up being, understanding that you are going to use free cash flow and all the other sort of things for expansion, but with the stock off more than 33% from your high, why not sell some of the securities, some of the stocks and the securities portfolio and buy back your own stock. Certainly, you believe your own stock is more undervalued than GOV or SIR or whatever else is in the securities portfolio at the moment, and that balance does not really fluctuate, you guys typically don't draw that down to invest in rental units and things of that nature. So, just a question as to whether or not the board has thought about using some of that capital to buy back stock.

In the past, we have reduced the securities portfolio to buy parks and we will reduce the securities portfolio. We need the money to make acquisitions. We are not enamored of short-term buybacks. We’ve done our own study of it. I take a moment to explain our study. The communities that we own go ahead, 5 million, 6 million a year. The value of our company goes up to a very substantial amount each year. The shareholder value goes up a very substantial amount each year, and the amount we gain by increasing our book value by buying back stock or even by not issuing additional stock to buy parks is a very few cents per share, and it’s more important to our policy to get where we’re going and to be sure we get where we are going, and then try to be too tight with capital. We see a lot of other REIT to have terrific future that are having trouble right now. We don't like to depend, we have excellent bank lines, but we don’t like to depend on our bank lines. Bank lines go ahead four or five years and four of five years is nothing. So, we want a strong capital base to continue to make our acquisitions and get the benefit of the long-term prospects of the company and we will of course consider buybacks depending on where the market goes. We certainly, as a policy would love to issue preferred stock and buyback common stock and we were surprised that the preferred market as for some reason closed down recently, but we expect that market to come back because no one else is issuing preferred, at least, not in any quantities. I believe the numbers are - have been 3 billion in preferred redemptions and only 1 billion in stock issued. So, we think we will be able to issue preferred some time in 2018, but it certainly can’t be done today.

Okay. Thanks guys.

The next question comes from Herb Steiner [ph], a private investor. Please go ahead.

Sam, I understand your business plan, and I do support it, but in the long-term, what it means is that you keep introducing parks, there that are sick parks, and you restore them to health. But your overall occupancy rate remains stuck. And your bottom line remains stuck. So, if you keep doing this, spending $60, $70 million a year on parks with 60%, 70% occupancy rate, it doesn't seem clear that over the long - the short run the company is going to go anywhere. You have got to increase the occupancy rate and you got to increase your bottom line.

So, I think what’s happening - we are on the REIT index, and as the REIT index, those stocks fall we are falling with them and people are losing sight of the fact that UMH is a hybrid. We have our taxable REIT subsidiary UMH sales and finance, and our sales end it’s been impossible to sell homes for 10 years and that’s dramatically improving at this moment. So, nobody is looking at UMH's potential when you're looking at the stock price. The communities we acquired over the last 5 to 7 years, we’re buying them 30,000 a site and under. When we increased the occupancy to 80% and replaced these with brand-new homes. The value comes up to 60,000 per site or greater. We can then refinance, take out the money and do whatever we want with it, including buying back stock. The markets, the stock markets view at this moment is so short-term debt, and I don't think it will stay that way. I mean, we’ve had seven years in a row of 10% plus growth in operating income. We’ve increased the sales over 20%, three years in a row. So, we can’t look too closely at the stock pricing and you’re assuming that the acquisitions are causing the low stock price, and I really don't think that’s the case. I think what’s closing the low stock price is strictly being on the index and all of the REIT stocks falling, we fall with it, we’re a smaller company, so we fall greater.

Let me add one thing. The present value we are creating can be monetized by mortgaging our products and the mortgage situation currently is excellent and we think it will get even better and the ability to take $1 billion worth of parks and borrow $700 million on it. It is something that we see in the future and we have seen our other REITs in our industry do a substantial borrowing and pay an extraordinary dividend. So, we are not concerned - as long as we build value we have no concerns whatsoever how we're going to get it to our shareholders. We have been paying... Unidentified Analyst]: I am sorry. It would just seem that if you paused on buying parks and simply developed your 3,800 vacant sites that that would increase your bottom line dramatically.

Absolutely, but one has nothing to do with the other. We are going to - the housing market is excellent. The figures today were sensational and with 300,000 new jobs, so you get 2 million 3 million new jobs, you get 1.5 million family formations, you get rising income, you get other groups that need housing badly. There is going to be - there is a housing shortage and we think that the Marcellus and Utica Shale will cause Pennsylvania and Ohio to lead the nation, and so immediate 2,500 vacant sites are going to feel like nothing, and we will have, not to tell, I don't want to say we have no problems, everybody works very, very hard and we have managers and regional managers. We have sales people we have sales labs. We work very hard to fill the sites, and we think the sales by the way in the manufacturing housing industry are going to surprise everyone in 2019, and so we think we’re going to be able to fill the Park. And I can tell from your question you understand the situation. If we fill the parks, at the events we get, we will have excellent numbers, and that has nothing to do with our other policy that we can add and we have added 2,000 sites a year, 10 years, 20,000 sites, and someone will look back at those sites being acquired at 40,000, 50,000 a site when they're worth very much more and so we will make money both ways and we see no reason to stop doing a moneymaking business plan because we have the vacancies. We will handle both at the same time.

Okay gentlemen, thanks. Thank you.

Well thank you for your question. I think you understand the value of those empty sites and we do too.

Yes, Mr. Landy I do, but the marketplace doesn't seem to. As we speak your stock is at a 52-week low and the message just isn't getting out.

Well you keep asking good questions, so we give good answers, and may be the message will get out.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much.

The next question comes from Craig Kucera with B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Hi good morning guys. I want to talk about your same store. You go back a year ago, 2 years ago, even through second quarter this year, you were looking at low to mid-double-digit same store. Seems like a lot of the reduction in same store's coming on the expense side. Can you provide some commentary on that? Is that all just increases in real estate taxes or something else going on?

Hi, Craig, it’s Anna. Yes, there was lot of increases in real estate taxes and that was also due to adding the rental homes, but also don't forget that included in these new same-store is acquisitions that were turning 2015 and that was about 2,800 sites and the occupancy level at that time was about 64%. So, what happens is it’s more difficult to bring that 64% up in one year to the 80% level, which would be optimum in order to operate the communities efficiently.

I see. So, in theory, if you guys stopped acquiring new communities that were going into the same-store pool, you would start to see an acceleration back to those levels. Is that fair to assume?

We hope so. You know because if we accept that, the only problem with stopping is that once we fill these communities, what are we going to do? We need to make sure that we grow. We need to make sure that we are looking at the future and see what occurs in the future.

Got it.

The revenue increases and the operating income increase we are receiving on the communities is meeting our expectations and the biggest factor in evaluating UMH or you UMH stock is what if somebody think of the regions that we are in, and everything going on economically really favors the exact reasons regions where UMH is located. So that we’re very excited about our potential to increase home sales, fill rentals even faster and you know even to the extent new communities have a higher expense ratio because of the vacancies and also turning them around, we’re so big now, 20,000 sites that 2,000 sites that are only 60% occupied are not going to have such a negative effect on our current income or funds from operation. To me it’s well worth doing, and I think, I said, and I'm going to repeat it. UMH stock is a REIT on the REIT index and I think that is 100% of course of our decline in stock price and if somebody looks at our growth history in any way shape or form the value of our communities we should not possibly be at the stock price where we are at today.

Well, let me add to that. REIT shares are selling at substantial discounts from their asset value. At the same time the people that keep track of real estate values are reporting that real estate values are continuing to rise. So, we have the usual situation, if you look at the graph of about the values of properties, property values are going up and if you look at the values of REITs at the present time they are going down and most REITs are reporting that they are selling at 15% to 20% discounts from book value. This is an unusual aberration, I haven't seen this before and I expect that it will not continue, we think that the private real estate market will remain strong and that the weak share prices will attend reflect the underlying values of the properties that we hold.

Got it. I feel like last quarter, you were discussing maybe raising rents on the entire portfolio closer to 4%. Is that something that is still under consideration or maybe you're testing out a few markets?

Yes and it seems very doable, I’d point out that the 2015 acquisitions, which were substantial based on our size at that time, 2,774 to lot, this is the third year of the turn around and we always point out, it takes us three full years to turn these properties around, and we believe that they in fact will turn around this year and yes, the 4% rent increase, we don't increase rents in communities with less than 80% occupancy, you know if it’s close, we will increase it to 4%, but if it’s substantially less than 80% then we will increase the rent, but other than that they are all going to receive the 4% rent increase on board the lot and the homes.

And we’re doing 110 million, we’re projecting 4.4 million in rent increases throughout the company, plus the rent increases we get, some filling sites.

And 800 rental units, which add $6.4 million plus a new revenue.

Okay. You mentioned you're going to be developing a number of new sites this year. Can you comment on what the cost, as you think about that, is whether that's on a per-site basis or in the aggregate? And what you think your overall CapEx budget might be for this year at your communities?

So, first we already owned the land where we're building site, and we see expenses coming in at $60,000 per lot and so that’s what it costs to build a lot when you already own the land.

So, if we add 10,000 to 20,000 the land value, Sam, you get 70,000 to 90,000 the cost of building a new site. We're very proud of this Memphis Blues park. I'm not sure that - I know that at the present occupancy we are not making a lot of money, but we wanted to demonstrate to the housing industry that we can build the housing units and save 70,000 for the site and 40,000, 50,000 for the home, even take it up to 150,000, we can build three bedrooms, two-baths for 150,000. And when we talk to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac or the people at HUD, we defy them that anybody in the whole country to produce affordable housing for price of $150,000 in San Francisco that’s trying to produce affordable housing it cost them 350,000 a unit, but that this is exceptionally high. But you can't, we want manufactured housing to be a leader in providing affordable housing, and we do, do projects, demonstration projects to demonstrate to the government that we have this capability and long-term we hope to be a supplier for affordable housing to the nation.

Okay. One more for me. I'd like just to talk about G&A. I think G&A was up maybe about 20% year-over-year. Are you planning on adding any more headcount in 2018? And how should we think about G&A for the next year?

I think we’re okay in G&A’s next year, I think headcount is where we expect it to be now, part of the G&A for this year was because of the increase in stock price and therefore it increased compensation cost when we issued our restricted stock and our stock options. So - but I believe headcount will be approximately the same as this year.

Okay. Thanks. That's it from me.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Rick Murray with Sorin Capital. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Could you please clarify the comments surrounding preferred issue issuance, I guess I am a little bit confused since you’ve had some REIT preferred issue this week in fact, so is it that your bankers have told you that you can't issue or just the yields that they are quoting have risen so much that it’s unattractive?

So first, UMH did not issue any preferred stock this week. UMH hasn't issue preferred stock since January.

No, I said one of your REIT peers.

Okay. We did not hear that. Well, but all REITs are different. I think that the last REIT shares we issued trading at 24 a quarter and it is - that is not a significant difference from 25 but did does create problems for us trying to issue more preferred, if the preferred would get up to 24.5 and our focus would tell us that we could issue more, we would probably issue more. We are a great believer in preferred stock, it gives the investors are pretty high return. It is perpetual, but it’s not locked in if it is a good market. So, it’s financial engineering that works and from the company's point-of-view we go out and buy products and do long-term investments because they have perpetual capital and it proves to be in our interest five years from now when the proprietor is callable, we can call the preferred. What we don't like to do is convert preferred capital to bank lines that only last 3, 4 years. So, if we can issue preferred at a lower cost it may make sense to do long-term notes, but in any event, we really believe in preferred and we have a strong capital structure because it’s comprised of equity, common equity preferred stock, and our bank lines.

Okay great. And can you just touched briefly on what drove the - what looks to be a pretty dramatic reduction in the gross margin on home sales this quarter?

I don't think that is a gross - reduction in the gross margin on home sale. We're going to look at it closely while we are talking, but I believe that we are always achieving the same margins that sales are up that currently, okay we have 10.8 [ph] million in sales. In 2005, we sold 259 homes, in 2006 we sold well over 200. We’re four times that size today, and we’re only selling 74 new homes and what’s our number for total home sales, but in any rate there shouldn’t be any changes in the margins.

In the fourth quarter your cost of sales was 78% versus a year ago of 67%. So that would imply that you had about 1,100 basis points reduction in your margin?

We don't have enough sales to even make that significant. I think you have to step back and look at what we're trying to do. The industry used to sell 250,000 homes a year. The industry used to sell 15% of the homes in the whole country. So that if there was 2 million homes sold, we sold 300,000, and I won’t get into all the reasons why manufactured housing homes dropped down to 50,000 and it’s up to 80,000. I think right now it is running at 100,000, but I saw some industry experts think we’re going to go back to 150,000, 200,000 homes. And we think there is a need for it and under the right circumstances UMH could have as a major interest retail sales slots filling products, and sales could be very important to the company. Right now, for the years we have lost a lot of money on sales because management here has stuck to its guidance thinking that eventually sales are going to be an important part of UMH's future. We’ve actually gone out and bought sales slots. These are lots that decade ago did $20 million and made $2 million a year and we picked them up for $0.25 [ph] million, which I thought was nothing, but it is costing us a lot of money to carry these and we have a big sales happen here and we are looking to the future, we think the future is manufactured housing and we think manufactured housing is affordable and we expect sales to be significant, but the valve volume of our sales now, I couldn't tell you our margin because I know we lose money every year on sales. We have to get the sales are up [indiscernible] sales up to.

But just to be specific for you, in 2017 we sold 222 homes new and used. In 2016, 170 homes; in 2015 135 homes. When we were one quarter our size, into in 2005 we sold 259 homes, and in 2006 we sold 285, and in 2007 243 homes. So, we got to get - to make money on sales we have to be at about 15 million. The reason you are seeing that change, it has nothing to do with new homes sales. When we acquire communities, a value is placed on homes that come with the acquisition. When we sell those houses, there may be minimal markup on those homes and that’s what’s knocking down the average, but it has nothing to do with new home sales.

The next question comes from Brian Roman [ph] with Boston Partners. Please go ahead.

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question or questions. Do you have an ATM in place right now?

We don't have an ATM on the stock. We were preparing to do an ATM on the preferred, but you can only do an ATM on preferred for some strange reasons, which I don't fully understand unless you sell them…

At around par.

Around par. And so, we are trying to - we have what ABC and D preferred assets…

Well B, C, C is out right now.

B, C, D is out and when we get the preferred and the right position, and when the markets of preferred is a little stronger and I saw it from one of the questions that one of the questioner might disagree with me and think that the market is ready. Market changes weekly. So, it could change and I expect the market to change because of what I said that there is $3 billion in redemptions and only $1 billion in issuance and there is a need for fulfilment.

I am talking about common shares because when I pull up UMH’s stock symbol that’s not preferred holders. That is common stockholders. Let me ask you, so you do not have an ATM outstanding at this point?

No, we do not.

And what is your thought on issuing new common shares at this point?

We have been issuing over the years through the dividend reinvestment plans, the sale order investment plan and that has been a substantial source of capital and we recently cut that back and measuring that off against that pipeline of deals and every month we make a decision as to the size of it, but I think for this month we cut it in half, and we may cut it in half again next month.

So, Sam you were talking about bringing income growth over an extended period of time. Could you just repeat your comment from our earlier?

Well our projection of the communities we own is that revenue should go forward $10 million a year, at least $5 million of that will be new operating income and that’s without factoring in if we get sales growth and sales profit. So, I think that realistically occurred in 2017. I think there is no reason to believe that it won't occur in 2018, and I think we can even do better than that?

Okay. So that is operating income and that is after or before preferred dividend?

It is before operating income. It is before interest expense, it is before administrative expenses, before anything else.

Got it. Okay. And the comment on buybacks, Gene is that you think it’s short-term and I mean I am sitting here looking at your data on Bloomberg and since 2012 the share count has doubled from $17 million to $35 million and I think going back to the gentlemen who asked the question earlier about allowing existing communities to mature, I think I am going to phrase the issue differently and say that because you're share count keeps going up you are permanently diluting existing stockholders along the way. And reducing the share count, particularly buying stock back below NAV would have the opposite effect of starting to increase FFO and related income streams per share. So, I am not, and that would be permanent. It wouldn't be one time, so I am trying to understand your thought process?

The thought process is we have taken the stock from over the years that I have been with the company we went from $1 to $10 and the high was $17. And the size of the company has gone from 7,000 sites recently to 20,000 sites and the value per share is up substantially. So that we have been increasing the value of the stock. Pretty significantly over the years and we are continuing to do it.

Okay. Hold on, I just want to, I don't mean to be rude, I want to challenge you there for a second because I am sitting here looking at your stock chart and unless I’m missing something, your stock is the same price it was in 1998 which is 20 years ago. So, I am not sure what time frame you are looking at but this stock is basically going nowhere, and …

You could say it goes nowhere, we have nothing than happy shareholders. The recent decline is unusual and if you be a little patient, I remember having this type of conversation with people who were telling me, you have not come for your dividend, and I would have these arguments that they get you nowhere. If you think with the same company we went in 1995 that is your opinion, but…

No that’s not my opinion, that’s the stock market's opinion. And 20 plus years is a long period of time. Look, I'm going to say the same thing I have said it to Sam. I think and somebody addressed this peripherally earlier, I think the investment portfolio is a waste of corporate resources and a distraction from a wonderful operating business that has lots of reinvestment potential. Selling that portfolio, using it to either reinvest in properties or buy back the stock from just about anybody’s standpoint is probably the right thing to do. It is a waste of timing resources.

We don't think so and you haven't sat through the negotiations. We have said though. In terms of buying $75 million, $100 million portfolios bidding on a $188 million portfolio, the presence of the liquidity and financial strength we have has allowed us to sit there at the same table with the biggest companies in the industry, and we are one-tenth their size. So, it has accomplished certain things and on the other hand there may be time to, if and when the securities market recovers we may be able to issue enough prepared stock that we don't need the securities portfolio, but it has been an excellent - historically it has been a lot of good, but no sense going on over it, we will go to the next question.

Fair enough. Thank you.

The next question is from Michael Boulegeris with Boulegeris Investments. Please go ahead.

Thank you for working me in. Congratulations Sam. Gene, Anna, Bret on the hard fought normalized FFO matching your dividend, certainly after the manufacturing industry downturn, I think this is a great achievement. And let me just state quickly, we have total confidence in your stewardship. So, my first question is coupled with your home sales rising - rising home sales, certainly if you make progress in filling the vacant sites may be Gene as Chairman you could take this on, does that board well for your long-term dividend sustainability and potential growth?

I have to tell you that the optimism I have is unbounded. Some of it, I don't claim any benefit for the policies, the government pursuing, the Federal reserve is pursuing. The economy in a term that Sam uses, it's smoking. The numbers today are fantastic. The Wall Street Journal has an article about the trillions of dollars that individuals have. Home prices have been going up 6% a year for the last three years. People are rebuilding their wells and when they rebuild their wells, they have money to buy their kids home, if not a full home they buy a manufactured home. The economy is terrific. The need for housing is there, and we are really optimistic. And the last questioner, we haven't come anywhere since 1995, in 1995 we were $100 million REIT and we are sitting here trying to buy $100 million in properties, we try to buy $600 million in property. If we bought back stock and did not have a strong capital, we could not do what we're trying to do, and I wish people would listen to us where we think that manufactured housing sales are going to come back. One of the problems in the industry is all the dealers have been wiped out. And by the way, Warren Buffett was certainly one of the leaders, he believes that the industry is going to be a major industry and the he is buying and building in Clayton Holmes he's building a juggernaut that if and when we start selling not $5 billion worth of homes, but 10 and 15 billion, he is going to be a major player in the industry and [indiscernible] for me to say that we will compete with them, but we will take this company to be a…

So, thank you, Gene for that and Sam with a low leverage, relative low leverage, I would say historically for UMH, would you agree that the company is poised for steady high-quality growth going forward?

We do a five-year projection and in five years we project FFO being over $1 per share and quite a bit of $1 per share. And what you do is just take the $10 million per year, five years that is $50 million in new dollars from the existing communities, $25 million in new operating income from the new existing community. And then you have the new communities and then you have the sales. Everything we did was with the wind right on our face. I mean the weak economy for the blue-collar worker, the weak housing demand all those things were negatives and yet we sold it extremely well because of the rental homes in our flexibility. We blanket the State of Pennsylvania, we blanket Ohio, our ability to become a major retailer of houses is there, we have the right people, we are in the right locations. So, again we can dramatically increase home sales the communities will fill their vacant sites we're going to do our expansions, we are going to sell and rent homes there. So, the existing revenue is very stable, the potential for the revenue growth is strong and we believe we’re in better shape than ever.

Well thank you for that and certainly we to believe in the total return equation are supposed to the partial return equation that sometimes is transient. Given that the high replacement cost and barriers to entry. Anna, could do you - do you feel that the expense ratio can come under 45 or work it's way too may be 42, 43 this year?

I don't think it will happen in one year. I think it will go down by how much, depends on how quickly we can fill our communities and how quickly we can put these rental homes in. We expect that we will put approximately 800 rentals into our communities in 2018. It will drop slowly. Our expense ratio will drop slowly. Okay. And just maybe two last ones if I could squeeze in. Do you see, I mean after the hurricanes in Florida and Texas, we saw some increase in prices for manufactured housing homes is that stabilizing? And may be Bret or Sam you could share with us the impact of the shell cracker facility in some of your communities, I think you are clearly in the heart of that region.

Well first there are increases in the home prices. And I think that’s good for the 5,300 rental units we already own. You know when your replacement cost goes up, but the increase in prices, 4% to 5%, there are longer delays getting houses, but predominantly those were in the market of Florida, California and places that were impacted by the weather. We see longer backlog, but in our longer backlog is three weeks to four weeks as opposed to the many months that it is in Florida and other states like that. The second part of your question was?

Yes, I mean I guess we will just talk about our communities in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana predominantly where most of our 3800 vacant sites are in demand and it remains extremely strong in these markets. It will easily be able to fulfil the 800 new rentals and should see a substantial increase in overall occupancy as well. So, although we are acquiring vacant sites we do so because we believe we can fill them very quickly to further increase value to our portfolio.

And I mentioned it earlier, but Parke Place a one-year acquisition, revenues up 44% or 579,000. That’s one community we purchased and that’s the best of them, but for other communities have revenue increases over 100,000. So, we do have the ability to increase revenue in the acquired vacancies.

Great. Thank you for taking my questions.

Thank you.

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Samuel Landy for any closing remarks.

Thank you. Thank you, operator. I would like to thank the participants on this call for their continued support and interest in our company. As always Gene, Anna, and I are available for any follow-up [indiscernible].

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