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Universal Logistics Holdings, Inc. (ULH)

Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Fri, Oct 28, 2022

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Company Representatives

Management

Tim Phillips - Chief Executive Officer Jude Beres - Chief Financial Officer Steven Fitzpatrick - Vice President of Finance, Investor Relations

Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to Universal Logistics Holdings, Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. And during the course of this call management may make forward-looking statements based on their best view of the business as seen today. Statements that are forward-looking relate to Universal business objectives or expectations and can be identified by the use of the words such as believe, expect, anticipate and project. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and actual results could differ materially from those expectations. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Mr. Tim Phillips, Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Jude Beres, Chief Financial Officer and Mr. Steven Fitzpatrick, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Mr. Phillips, you may begin.

Tim Phillips

Analyst

Thank you, Joe and good morning. Thank you for joining Universal Logistics Holdings 2022 third quarter earnings call. Our Q3, 2022 numbers are not only a reflection of our continued commitment to expanding shareholder value, they are also a testament to the cohesive team of associates at Universal who share the same goal of being the best. I’m extremely satisfied with our progress over the first three quarters of 2022. Our focus on operations and customer service are at the center of our commitment to continuous improvement across all of our operating groups. We continue to keep the pulse of the economy close as we are transitioning into the last quarter of the year, with particular attention on our transportation portfolio. Spot market rates have slid rapidly over the course of the last six months and will put pressure on upcoming customer contract negotiations. While both automotive and Class 8 production remained steady at most plants operated or serviced by Universal, Part and ship shortages continue to keep the auto sector from obtaining increased production. Poor fluidity has continued to improve because of decreased import shipments, but chassis remained tight in many markets. We are pleased with our progress in California. We successfully entered into an agreement with the Teamsters, which has helped bolster our port Drayage fleet with quality drivers. While the equipment market has remained tight, our planning has secured hundreds of company trucks and chassis to support the growth in this market. We are very excited to be able to offer our valued customers a consistent and seamless service of compliant drivers and trucks. Now, for the quarter. In yesterday's release Universal reported 2022 third quarter earnings of $1.84 per share on total operating revenues of $505.7 million. Our reported 2022 third quarter performance once again reflects…

Jude Beres

Analyst

Thanks Tim. Good morning, everyone. Yesterday Universal Logistics Holdings reported consolidated net income of $48.5 million or $1.84 per share on total operating revenues of $505.7 million in the third quarter of 2022. This compares to net income of $10.3 million or $0.38 per share on total operating revenues of $445.6 million during the same period last year. Consolidated income from operations was $69.8 million for the quarter compared to $16.7 million one year earlier. EBITDA increased $51.3 million to $84.4 million, which compares to $33.1 million during the same period last year. Our operating margin and EBITDA margin for the third quarter of 2022 are 13.8% and 16.7% of total operating revenues. These metrics compare to 3.8% and 7.4% respectively in the third quarter of 2021. Looking at our segment performance for the third quarter of 2022, in our contract logistics segment, which includes our value add and dedicated transportation businesses, income from operations increased $29.4 million to $35.4 million on $209.5 million of total operating revenues. This compares to operating income of $6 million on $156.9 million of total operating revenue in the third quarter of 2021. Operating margins for the quarter were 16.9% versus 3.8% last year. As Tim mentioned in his comments, our third quarter of 2021 results included $7.1 million of operating losses incurred at a large contract logistics program here in Metro Detroit. We are pleased to report that that program is now profitable and meeting our expected return profile. On to our Intermodal segment, operating revenues increased $33.4 million to $154.4 million compared to $121 million in the same period last year. And income from operations increased $26.2 million to $28.1 million. This compares to operating income of $1.9 million in the third quarter of 2022. Included in our third quarter of 2021…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. And our first question here will come from Chris Wetherbee with Citi. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey! Thanks, good morning guys. This is [inaudible] for Chris. Maybe just starting broadly and going more granular, you're talking about some challenges and opportunities in ‘23. Maybe you could just help us break down the specific bogies and targets of those challenges and opportunities. And maybe if the challenges outweigh, what can that specifically do on a cost take outside that can help in the next year, thanks.

Tim Phillips

Analyst

Sure, I’ll start with that Chris, and you know we think some of the challenges that Universal will face in 2023 may mirror some of the others when it comes to the transportation sector. We know we've seen a decline in the spot rate market and it has leveled a little bit, but we know that's going to challenge some of our truckload transportation negotiations that will be upcoming next year. That will also have an effect on some of our brokerage negotiations going into next year and next year. But equally as much, we're equally excited about the stability that we've seen in the auto and truck sector and our pipeline of opportunity in the value added and the dedicated sector, which is our Contract Logistics. We think that there's plenty of opportunity out there that we will remain relevant in the way we're rating and winning business. So I think going into 2023 and stretching our legs, there are some opportunities that are in front of us of various sizes, and we got a couple of basis that we think we're going to hit here in the next couple months, as well as a couple of large projects we hope to get feedback on. So if I had to lay it out on the table, I would say the challenges will definitely be in the transportation sector and then our upside will be our contract logistics business, which we continue to find that we are winning business at rates that we find acceptable.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

It makes sense. Specifically within that, you said there's a 40% revenue opportunity there within Contract Logistics. What specifically is that I guess and how are you getting that 40%?

Tim Phillips

Analyst

Yeah, that figure just represents a measurement of what the pipeline looked like in the third quarter of ’21 compared to the third quarter of 2022. It’s a measurement and just the revenue opportunity of those sales pipeline opportunities. And what we found is that there's a spread of opportunities within that pipeline that canvas the different sectors and spaces. We have some aerospace in there, we have some agriculture in there, we have some automotive opportunities in there and we also have some heavy truck opportunities in there. So we're happy with where we have that pipeline pointed and now just becomes our execution and ability to show the customer what we can do, but we are confident in that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Sure, that makes sense. I think one more, one more here and that's on Intermodal. You saw a sequential step down in loads, down significantly year-over-year. I guess two questions. If we think about what that business could look like in 4Q on the load side and then also specifically there if you have accessorial starting to roll off and you just have fuel surcharge rolling off as well, what are the dynamics that we should be thinking about for Intermodal as we go into 4Q specifically?

Tim Phillips

Analyst

Sure. I don't think you should expect any more deteriorated, serious deterioration in year-over-year of load count, but we are still facing the challenge in some marketplaces of congestion, which is hard to put a measurement on. We still have markets that haven't unwinded the chassis problem where the chassis are sitting loaded with containers on them at warehouses so we can keep them in the cycle for rotation. And you know a good portion of our Intermodal Groups transportation power is coming from owner operators, and they've had a pretty good stretch of run where they've been able to pick and choose what they want, and I think that we realize that, but I think that we'll have those continued conversations about the stepping down in the marketplace and maybe their reconsideration of how they point their business going into the latter half of this year and into 2023. So we're going to definitely have those conversations. And as far accessorial go, some of the accessorial noise that you've seen, both positively and negatively have come from congestion and the supply chain disruptions. We've done a lot of things with our customer supply solutions that maybe we wouldn't in a normal environment. You know some of the negatives that come from congestion is per diem. Some of the positives that come from that for us is giving our customers a solution to meter containers into their facilities, to hold them, to store them, to give them economic solution that provide value for them. So you know it's been a pretty stressed supply chain that has presented opportunities for us. I still see those opportunities in the fourth quarter, maybe not to the level we saw at the height over the summer and you know unwind itself in going into next year, and then it's hard to say that Q1 what everything – is everything unwound in Q1? Is the imports at a level where we don't have port congestion and rail congestion, I guess we'll still have to see on that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Makes sense. Thanks a lot, Tim. I appreciate it.

A - Tim Phillips

Analyst

Thank you, Chris.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question here will come from Bruce Chan with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Bruce Chan

Analyst

Hey gents! Good morning and nice result here. I hope I didn't just miss it, but on the Intermodal front, you know another great experience there with yield and you know when we think about some of those comments around more fluidity and the congestion situation easing a little bit. Do you feel like you're starting to top out there as far as the accessorials are concerned?

A - Tim Phillips

Analyst

Yes, I would say, well the one unknown accessorial as fuel. I mean fuel – diesel fuel has been very volatile. Don't have a crystal ball going into the first quarter. So I think we'll probably see fuel remain elevated, but some of those accessorials that are part of that whole congestion and unwinding will see some softening and some of those we don't mind, right. We don't mind seeing less per diem because containers are sitting out for too long, you know although we have made good money on storage and metering of containers to fit the customers need. We also know that a fluid supply chain allows us to increase the number of turns we're doing with trucks right now, and our turn rate is down quite a bit from where it was pre-COVID. So we think a turn back to normalization will allow us to put supply or provide more turns per week for these drivers and contractors. So yes, I think that we'll see some step down in accessorials definitely, but I would hope the step down that we see in accessorials is made up for by the fluency we see in our drivers and contractors being able to turn more loads in and out of ports and rail.

Bruce Chan

Analyst

Okay, got it. That makes sense. So just to be clear, you know any headwinds that you might be looking at on that yield accessorial size that can be offset, certainly with productivity, but potentially on the volume front as well a little bit.

A - Tim Phillips

Analyst

Yes, that's one of our goals, is to ramp up volume, right. It’s a conservative effort between the driver, the contractor, our sales, our sales pipelines, in making sure that we have the opportunities there to make sure we can feed the drivers and contractors with steady work. But I do believe that once we get back to a little bit more normal flow in and out of ports and rails that we’ll see our loads per driver jump and that should help offset some of the deceleration and accessorial revenue margin.

Bruce Chan

Analyst

Got it, okay. And then just following on those thoughts on the intermodal side, specifically around the port array side. You know when you think about AB5 and some of the migration of volumes that we've seen from west to east, have you you know changed or has that changed any of your longer term strategies or thoughts around you know where you want to be positioned, especially you know once you start to think about M&A.

A - Tim Phillips

Analyst

Yes, I would think you know let's just start with the M&A piece. We will take a very close look at any M&A opportunity that provides strategic value to universal in the Intermodal Group, and no matter what coast that's on, we’ll do a deep dive into it. I do think that you know the past several years from a combination of organic growth and M&A work, we are well positioned in most, if not all major ports and rails around the United States. So having the view we do from 10,000 feet, allows us to set strategies and toggle. If we see a – more and more freight flowing through the east coast, then we have the ability to ramp up driver and contractor counts there to run into the port of New York or the port of Savannah. But I do think this, I think that customers made decisions based on many things in this last year or year and a half and some of the swing to the east coast could be just that they thought about what was the easiest way to push their goods into the United States. And we all know that the LA Long Beach port system and the connectivity to the rails is probably the best in the country, but there was some headwinds. We had uncertain labor markets that they took into consideration; we had severe congestion, which has alleviated itself now and kind of pushed a little bit of it over to the east coast, but I still think there's value there on the west coast and I still think there's – the last time I looked, there's a lot of people that live out in that area, an area of the United States. So I see that to be a continued, although it may take a short term you know hiccup, I think it's a long term value. But just to end that, I think Universal is set in the 48 states to be a value provider for any customer, no matter what port that freight flows through.

Bruce Chan

Analyst

Okay, fair enough. And then you know final question here, maybe just a longer term schematic one. You know Tim you talked a bit about Mexican and Canadian cross-border. You know we've obviously heard a lot about you know near-shoring in the wake of COVID and tariffs. Given your experience with automotive, you know I think you've got some good perspective there. Can you share with us some thoughts about you know whether that's something we're seeing concretely and what the trends look like going forward as far as you know manufacturing shift you know to North America, to other places, you know maybe just some color there.

A - Tim Phillips

Analyst

Well, I probably can give you a little bit of color on Mexico than I can Canada. Although we operate there, our cross-border is nowhere, is very minimal. The same thing to be said in Mexico for us. We don't do – we don't do a ton of cross-border if any cross-border. Most of ours is within the walls of Mexico. So the new startup that we had there is delivering and pulling in milk runs and such from the automotives within Mexico, as well as the traditional value added service offerings we've had there with inside the four walls with major automotive players. What I can tell you is the volumes have been have been good this year. Everything that we see that we're able to get our eyes on, look good for next year, and I think that the opportunity still presents itself. I think the near-shoring is real. I think labor down there is real and I think our opportunities as we set our pipeline up will be – there will be a lot of opportunities that reside in Mexico. It's just a matter whether Universal finds it to be a value of proposition as we gain some speed on this. But on the transportation side, we've already had several conversations. There are direct results of just the knowledge that we've started an inter-Mexico trucking company and there's much interest. So I think you know north of the border we've supplied a lot of solutions to the automotive and others. I think they realize that, they have some comfort with us. So it's just a matter of working through a strategic business plan and showing them how we can move freight just as effectively if not more so than what they used to in Mexico. So we're excited about the opportunity. It’s in its infancy stages. It has some work and way to go, but we're positive we'll get it there.

Bruce Chan

Analyst

Okay, perfect. Thank you very much. Take care.

A - Tim Phillips

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And with no remaining questions, we will conclude our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Tim Phillips for any closing remarks.

Tim Phillips

Analyst

Well, first of all, I appreciate everyone calling in and I/we look forward to telling the story about our continued progress at Universal when we meet next time. So until then, I appreciate it. Thank you. Have a great day!

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.