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urban-gro, Inc. (UGRO)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 15, 2022

$6.72

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the urban-gro, 2022 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are currently in a listen-only mode. . As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to your host Dan Droller, EVP Corporate Development and IR. Please go ahead, Sir.

Dan Droller

Management

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Today's call will be led by Brad Nattrass, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Dick Akright, Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to remind our listeners that remarks made during this call will include discussion of non-GAAP metrics, including adjusted EBITDA and backlog. These items should not be utilized as a substitute for urban-gro's financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations of our GAAP net loss to adjusted EBITDA are available in our press release and in our Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and can be accessed from the Investor Relations section of our website. On this call, we may state management's intentions, beliefs, expectations or future projections. These are forward-looking statements and involve risks and uncertainties. Forward-looking statements on this call are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Federal Securities Laws and are based on urban-gro's current expectations, actual results could differ materially. As a result, you should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements. Some of the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these contemplated by such forward-looking statements are discussed in the periodic reports urban-gro filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These documents are available in the Investors section of the company's website and on the Securities and Exchange Commission's website. We encourage you to review these documents carefully. Lastly, a copy of our earnings press release and a webcast replay for today's call may be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at ir.urban-gro.com. With that, I will now turn the call over to Brad.

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Thank you, Dan. Good afternoon, everyone and welcome. I'll begin today's call by providing an overview of the state of our business, including an update on our execution results and vision. This will be followed by Dick reviewing our financial results in more detail. And then we'll open the call for your question. I want to preface my remarks by stating that I'm very proud of our team for the resilience this quarter amid the well documented headwinds that are impacting the cannabis industry. I'm not only the CEO of the company, but I'm also urban-gro's largest shareholder. And despite our performance being below our internal expectations due to a variety of macro-economic and industry forces, I remain incredibly confident and excited about the success that lies ahead. We've been laser focused on perfecting our go-to-market strategy, through integrating strategic acquisitions and continuing to build out our internal capability, which kind has resulted in a pipeline that is qualified and growing. Before diving into my comments around our quarterly performance, I want to make sure that you have three key takeaways from today's call. First, and as seen in our backlog, our professional services business remain strong and meaningful contracts are being signed in all three sectors in which we operate. In fact, the team is currently working on more than 150 open service contracts as of today. Although we're actively diversifying our business on all trends, we've been most negatively impacted by the overall turbulence in the cannabis sector, and the associated downturn and cultivation equipment sale. Well, we're not recognizing the cultivation equipment sales as quickly as we had previously anticipated, no contracts have been cancelled. Opportunities have been pushed back, but the business is still there. And we believe this path will prove to be temporary. Second,…

Dick Akright

Management

Thanks, Brad. Revenue was $16.3 million in the second quarter of 2022, compared to $12.8 million in the prior year period, representing an increase of $3.5 million, or 27%. This increase was driven by $2.9 million increase in construction design build revenue, as well as incremental services revenue of $2.7 million. These increases were offset by a decrease in equipment systems revenue of $2.1 million, primarily reflecting software equipment demand in the U.S. cannabis market. Gross profit was $3.5 million, or 22% of revenue in the second quarter of 2022, compared to $2.9 million, or 23% of revenue in the prior year period. This represents an increase of $0.6 million. The decrease in gross profit margin was driven by mix with an increase in the lower margin construction design build revenue, offset by increases and higher margin services revenue. Operating expenses were $5.4 million in the second quarter of 2022, compared to $2.7 million in the prior year period, representing an increase of $2.7 million. Of this total increase $0.9 million is attributable to non-cash expenses associated with stock compensation, and amortization expense of intangibles from our acquisitions. The remaining increase in operating expenses was driven by increased headcount to support both current and future demand for the Company's solutions, continued investment in European growth, as well as incremental costs associated with acquisitions. This resulted in a loss from operations of $1.9 million in the second quarter of 2022, as compared to income from operations of $0.2 million in the second quarter of 2021. Net loss was $1.7 million, or negative $0.17 per share in the second quarter of 2022, as compared to net income of $1.3 million, or $0.11 per share in the prior year period. The prior year period did include $1 million, and another income associated with…

Operator

Operator

One moment please while we poll for questions. We have a first question from the line of Eric Des Lauries with Craig Hallum. Please go ahead.

Eric Des Lauries

Analyst

Thank you for taking my questions. First one, so appreciate your comments on the capital environment within cannabis right now. And obviously, that's had the majority of the impact here. As you guys do look to diversify into other industries, including CEA, I was wondering if you could just give us a sort of your assessment on the current capital environment in the CEA industry, if it was any notable difference in the capital environment there versus in cannabis. Thank you.

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Thanks, Eric. The CEA space with what's happening in Eastern Europe right now is starting to change quite a bit in terms of funds coming in, there's been some large operators in the food space in the U.S. that have been raising up to hundreds of millions in the last couple of months. In Europe, we still see a little weakness in the primary European market in terms of funds coming in, but expect that to increase as we go into the fall. And also expect a focus on the indoor food vertical farms as well.

Eric Des Lauries

Analyst

All right, and then on the design build side of things. Could you talk about the overall sales cycle there? I appreciate your comments on sort of expectations for a pickup in or maybe a resumption in growth on equipment sales in Q4, could you just kind of help us flush that out in terms of the usual sales cycle that you see from design build to maybe getting to a point to be able to book some of those equipment system sales and I suppose comments as well as any of that has lengthened in these past months? Thanks.

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Thanks, Eric. Well first, we do go-to-market outlook card. So whether it's engineering design or architecture, or a combination or the full design build, which is at a market in many different ways, the acquisition of Emerald Construction, few months ago changed everything and the response and why I'm saying about that our model strong and working is because we've got tremendous support and interest and I look forward to announcing those contracts. And end-to-end design build is about 18 months. And the difference between urban-gro and others is we engage one or two months before the architecture starts. And we stay engaged after on the back end terms of training and remote monitoring. And I'm just helping people ensure that the soft start. The architecture really lasts for the entire length for urban-gro. But the architecture up front is about three to four months it is way into engineering, during the engineering stage is when the equipment is starting to be purchased. And a lot of those supply chain issues, we can mitigate them. Because we just talked to the client a little bit earlier, if mechanical is seven months now instead of three months in the past, it's okay, we just talked a little bit earlier. So starting with architecture, and certainly thereafter engineering and then finding the construction management side of the deal, you're looking at 18 months total. That gives us the confidence that the business is there in the pipeline, it just hasn't been signed yet. So I looked for a stronger equipment backlog, as the year progresses into Q4. And the reason I can confidently say that we believe that there will be a bounce back in equipment sales near the tail end of the year, is because we are in early design on quite a few projects right now. So it'll naturally move in to the equipment selection side.

Eric Des Lauries

Analyst

That's very helpful. I appreciate that. And then last question for me here. As you look at the volume of projects that Emerald is doing, and you know, as you're kind of talking to here, that will eventually flow through to some of the other segments, could you just give us a sense of maybe volumes of projects just able to sort of quantify the number of projects that you expect to do with Emerald under your umbrella as opposed to maybe what you guys were doing in 2020, or 2021 just sort of helped give us a sense of how impactful Emerald could be from a number of projects that you're working on going forward? Thanks.

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Yes, in 2021, Emeralds, revenues were just over $26 million. And I think they had about 22 employees at the time. Ever since we finished the acquisition, our CEO has been working very closely with their CEO to scale the business as rapidly and efficiently as possible. Our designed build contracts for Emerald outside of CEA typically would range from a $1 million to $5 million. And in the CEA segment, it could be anywhere from 20 to 60 million, depending on the equipment solution, or holistic solution that the client decides in terms of equipment selection. We are laser focused on helping them scale. And that includes putting a plant or project superintendent add-on site. And also increasing the number of relationship project managers that we have. There are 31-year old business they have a lot of experience. And their CEO is laser focused on ensuring that we keep delivering that high level of service that he does his side of the business to maintain those long term partnerships with leading companies like the CPG company, and we bring those service levels over cannabis.

Eric Des Lauries

Analyst

I appreciate the color. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. You have next question from the line of Eric Beder SCC Research SSC Capital. Please go ahead.

Eric Beder

Analyst

Good afternoon. Could you just talk a little bit about…?

Operator

Operator

Eric, I'm sorry to interrupt. This is the operator, I would request if you can please use the handset. Your audio is not coming very clear, sir. Thank you.

Eric Beder

Analyst

Okay, I'll try again. Can you hear me now?

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Yes, I can hear you fine now. Better.

Eric Beder

Analyst

Okay, so let's talk a little bit about the opportunity in Europe. When do you think that'll start to generate material revenue and actually thinking about the margins for the European business versus the U.S. business?

Bradley Nattrass

Management

So first of all on the cannabis side. As I've said before, kind of look at the European market being where the U.S. market was five or six years ago. There's a demand for our expertise and also our solutions as far as it relates to equipment. Now answering the pandemic, European market and cannabis, it didn't have the momentum that we did in the U.S. over the sort of a pause for about a 1.5. For us, it gave us time to hire the right Managing Director, we identified that we needed that expertise on the ground, we needed that credibility in the European market. So we hired an individual with over two decades of horticulture experience in working in greenhouse in indoor facilities and in cannabis and food. So over the last four months, we have started to build the team around Eric, we have relocated some key employees, and we continue to aggressively get in the market presented conferences where we can. The first tie off is going to be services contracts. And that's what we have been signing. They will lead to equipment sales, but in terms of regulatory approvals, that's what the clients are waiting on right now. So for the meantime, it's, our 50% margin services business utilizing assets that are now relocated to Europe, and then also utilizing our assets back here in the U.S. On the food side, we signed our deal with Urban Health Farms a little over nine months ago. And for us, we it's dependent on Urban Health Farm, signing their deals with the end users for us, then to step down and design build the 20 indoor vertical farms. And so we've been working with them in Europe with our team on site selection analysis in a couple of different countries. But until they find that deal with their clients, we can't officially announce our deal here to the market. On the design build side in Europe, those are probably 10% plus margin projects. But they'll also include a lot of the architect and engineering services, a high margin services ahead of time. I have lot of confidence in the team, we're making great progress, where our goal is to get involved as early as possible with the client. And a lot of new countries right now are opening up their licensing process, and making it clear to the market, what's needed to successfully obtain a license. And then when they award the licenses, urban-grow, it's our goal to be already working with those clients ahead of time. That'll probably save us three to six months. If we can get a client to market, one or two harvests earlier than everyone else, that's worth a lot of money to them, because that's when the price of cannabis is the highest.

Eric Beder

Analyst

Sure. Could you talk a little, have this very precious amount of capital here? So how can you leverage that to the best use and the best returns, when you look at it here in terms of moving projects along or in terms of just how you plan on using this capital to maximize return?

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Well, first and foremost, we are aiming to get back to a positive adjusted EBITDA a position as quickly as possible. We -- instead of giving the full year guidance, Eric and then stepping out with a weak Q3, we thought it was best to put the cards on the table. We don't we have limited visibility right now. We have confidence in the pipeline, but we want it to be filled provide continue to provide full transparency to the market. We do have a tremendous amount of momentum that we would look to look to capitalize in Q4, but conserving the cash feel ready to make acquisitions, strong acquisitions, take advantage of good opportunities, if they present themselves. It is definitely something that we'll look at, as well.

Eric Beder

Analyst

Okay, and final question you've talked about -- when do you expect some of these states to open up, is that when you look in what's going forward in your positiveness on the pipeline? Are those linked, or is it really? Yes, we'll leave it at that. Thank you.

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Yes, I know, they're absolutely. Eric, for example, New York and New Jersey, we announced a few months ago, a design build contract with a group in New York E29. We started on the architecture and engineering stages and as that client moves through the process and secures a license once the licenses are awarded, then we move to that next stage. So what's happened in the states have slowed down, they typically move forward on the design side, and then push pause. When the states begin to open up, they begin to open up with us as well, and it'll start with the equipment. Another example is Missouri. Perfect example. They just decided last week to add rec to their ballot. It was anticipated that they would, but it was added last week. So once it was added, then people I think, feel comfortable the class feel comfortable, their finance partners feel comfortable moving forward. So definitely correlated.

Eric Beder

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And good luck for the rest of the year.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We'll take a final question from the line of Aaron Grey with Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, this is Remy Smith on for Aaron Grey. Thank you for the question. So while you've been able to avoid some of the pain the hydroponics market has faced, we're now starting to see more of the larger operators and MSOs scale. So how long do you believe that might persist? And how do you believe safe could play a factor in that?

Bradley Nattrass

Management

We'll say so or any other regulatory change will play a huge factor, not only for urban-gro, but the entire industry. Since the Q1 calls, a lots changed in terms of really nothing has been happening. As of the last couple of weeks, there's been a little bit more movement of safe or perhaps letting some of the operator’s trade on the big boards. But I think once that happens once institutions can invest in the larger operators, they're going to have funds to grow a lot quicker. As they continue to scale, it's not only just scaling, their cultivation. But they're also right now in the process, large operators have building out a lot of dispensaries. And that's one of the things that I'm really excited about, as we go into the end of the year and enter '23 is that we now have a turnkey dispensary offering as well, we have all the tools, we have the architecture, the engineering, we have the interior designers, and of course now we have construction management arm as well. So I -- we have signed good contracts with existing clients on dispensaries that we didn't have before. And so I'm very positive excited about that development as well. But I believe as we get closer to the mid-term, there's going to be some regulatory changes in the industry as an overall entity will benefit.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Sir, do you have any further questions? Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. Now I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Bradley Nattrass for closing remarks. Over to you, sir.

Bradley Nattrass

Management

Thank you. I'm confident that the investments we've made -- the investment that we continue to make in the business today they are going to result in a very strong future financial performance. The model that I told you about when we were listing on the NASDAQ and we've been building for the last 18 months it's locked in. That's proving itself. And every division of our company is performing with the exception of one and that's the equipment, sales division. And that's an issue that's affecting all ancillary companies in the sector. Our cannabis focused architecture and engineering design business remains strong. And as a result, we see equipment sales beginning to rebound for us by the end of the year. So yes, the uncertainty in this single area has impacted our actual performance versus our forecast. But I assure you our pipeline of projects is strong, qualified and it's growing. Again, thank you for joining us today and I'm grateful for your ongoing interest and support. Have a nice evening.

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.