Lon R. Greenberg - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
Management
Sure. Let's start with volumes. Volumes, if you look at the first quarter was substantially above last year and we had little bit colder than normal weather in the first quarter. Second quarter, we met weather similar to last year in January and February, two critical months for this business. And if you saw how the quarter evolved, December's weather was decent so, January was decent. January's weather was off of [ph], February was off of, and March's weather was decent and March’s results improved as the month went on. I would tell you that we are not concerned with volume for say our bulk volumes behaved, probably better than we thought they would in this quarter given the weather. Cylinder volumes are holding up nicely in a very competitive market as well. Behind the scenes we lost some share or lost some customers and the... I would say very large butane, very large propane side of the business where margins aren’t very high and few adjusted volumes to reflect those loss of higher volume, very low margin customers, the volume performance would look better that it even does now. So, from a volume standpoint, we think the business is performing well and it is weather depended however. And if we go back to the years '05, '06, when we had normal second quarters, there is very ample and adequate opportunity for volumes to meet our expectations. And the expectations we had when we bought this business several years ago. So I don’t think it’s necessarily a volume issue, John mentioned, some initiatives we have in the pipe-gas side and help collective housing helps the cylinder side, we have been very innovative. So, think on the volume side to summarize again. We are doing okay. It’s not that, we don't have our share of issues with competition from other fuels. But you won’t see market declines in volume. On the margin side, as Peter mentioned, the margins were close to last year this time, what you see by segments. If you look at things there is some segments doing a little better, other segments doing a little worse overall. And if you looked at the sort of the margins that we registered this year for this quarter and added a little, or subtracted a little depending upon what cost was cost was doing, it would be in a ballpark for our expectations for margins. Overseas as we have said many times, if you get a rapid increase in cost, it's harder for them to catch up that it is in the US for us, because of competitive norms, contracts with customers and just a culture. US were much more rapid in our response to those cost increases. If you looked at the first quarter margins year-over-year, they were quite a bit lower in first quarter this year, compared to first quarter last year. Second quarter margins nearly caught up, they were slightly behind last year. So, they were able to catch up to close to last year's levels. And again by segment, some segments are clearly going to have lower margins, other segments are doing fine. So, on balance, as I said, margins within a striking range of where they are this past quarter rational.