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Unifi, Inc. (UFI)

Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 24, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Unifi third quarter earnings conference call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to James Otterberg, CFO. Sir, you may begin.

James Otterberg

Analyst

Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Joining me for the call today is Bill Jasper, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Roger Berrier, our President and Chief Operating Officer. During this call, we will be referencing a webcast presentation that can be found at unifi.com. The presentation can be accessed by clicking the Third Quarter Conference Call link found on our homepage. Before we begin, I need to first advise you that certain statements included on today's call will be forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Management cautions that these statements are based on current expectations, estimates and/or projections about the markets in which the company operates. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve certain risks that are difficult to predict. Actual outcomes and results may differ materially from what is expressed, forecasted or implied by these statements. I direct you to the disclosures filed with the SEC and our Form 10-Qs and Form 10-Ks regarding various factors that may impact these results. Also, please be advised that certain non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA, will be discussed on this call, and a non-GAAP reconciliation can be found in the schedules to the webcast presentation. Before we get to the financial details for the quarter, I'd like to turn the call over to Roger, who will provide you with an overview of the company's markets and raw material trends. Roger?

R. Berrier

Analyst

Thanks, James, and good morning, everyone. I'll start this morning with a few brief comments regarding the retail market. Freezing temperatures and heavy snow across much of the U.S. cut many shoppers indoors during the start of 2014, and forced some stores to close for a couple of days in January and February, causing retail sales to drop. Retail sales began to rebound in the month of March, however. The results for the 3 months of the March quarter, retail sales of apparel declined 1.2% when compared to the December quarter, while retail sales of furnishings declined 2.4% and other sales were down 1.8%. However, when compared to the prior year March quarter, retail sales of apparel, furnishings and autos were flat to slightly up in each segment for the March 2014 quarter. As a result, we continue to see positive year-over-year growth in our key segments, despite the impacts of the unusually cold and snowy weather in the March quarter. We remain very encouraged by the stability of synthetic apparel produced in the NAFTA-CAFTA region, which has held steady at approximately 18% of the total U.S. apparel consumption for the last 4 years. During January and February, synthetic production from this region increased by more than 10% versus the same period last year, giving more indication that brands and retailers are looking to source more products from the region. Our production volumes and sales volumes remain strong, particularly in our polyester segment which includes both our value-added products and commodities, and our future orders look strong for our fiscal fourth quarter. We anticipate expanding our texturing capacity over the next 6 to 9 months to take advantage of this incremental growth that Bill will touch on later. In terms of polyester raw materials, prices have remained relatively stable over…

James Otterberg

Analyst

Thanks, Roger. I will begin the review of our preliminary financial results for the March quarter, on Page 3 of the presentation, with net sales and gross profit highlights by segment. Considering the timing of the holiday shutdown period, net sales of $176.9 million for the current quarter increased $8.6 million over the prior year quarter. This increase was driven by higher sales volumes for the company's polyester and international segments, as well as improved pricing for the company's polyester and nylon segments. Currency translation drove the negative pricing impacts for the company's international segment, the Brazilian real, for the current quarter, averaged BRL 2.36 to USD 1 versus BRL 2.0 to USD 1 for the comparable period in the prior year. This devaluation of the Brazilian real accounted for $4.4 million of the decrease in net sales that will be shown within our international segment. For the current fiscal year-to-date period, the company's sales volumes are down slightly versus the prior year-to-date period for each of our reportable segments, while the pricing improvements for the company's polyester and nylon segments have more than offset their respective volume declines. From a domestic perspective, net sales are up $4.7 million for the 9 months ended March 2014 when compared to the prior year-to-date period of the decline in net sales from our foreign subsidiaries can be primarily attributed to the effects of the devaluation of the Brazilian real against the U.S. dollar. When reviewing our gross profit results, the company is reporting higher gross profits for both the 3-month and 9-month periods when compared to the corresponding prior year periods. These increases were driven primarily by improvements within the company's domestic operating margins which can be attributed to the company's PVA and mix enrichment efforts, along with the benefits of lower…

William Jasper

Analyst

Thanks, James, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased with the revenue recovery in the March quarter, which has come from the overall strength of our domestic business coupled with the positive impact, in the current quarter, associated with the timing of our holiday shutdown. Our domestic gross margin continues to benefit from the stability of the price of raw materials and our ongoing focus on lean manufacturing, rigorous process improvement, increased flexibility in all operations and our cost-reduction initiatives. Although revenue for the first 9 months of fiscal 2014 remains approximately $7 million below last year, in fact, year-to-date revenue in the North and Central America region is actually up, while foreign revenue is $10 million lower, primarily attributable to a weakened Brazilian real. I'd like to echo the comments that Roger and James have made regarding the results from our operations in Brazil and China. There is a confluence of factors impacting our results from Brazil, including lower gross profit in U.S. dollars due to currency translation and margins that have been squeezed by price pressures from imported DTY, both of which are more than offsetting higher sales volumes in Brazil. We have also experienced gross margin and volume declines in China beyond more the pressures stemming from low operating rates and overcapacity in the market. We remain encouraged by the level of interest in our higher-margin and PVA products in both Brazil and China. However, the pace at which these programs are coming online is being hindered by the challenging economic conditions in both markets. We remain committed to our mix enrichment strategy and aggressively managing pricing cost to overcome inflationary cost increases, and we do expect to see gradual improvements throughout our 2015 fiscal year in both countries. Turning now to North and Central American region. We…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the first question is from Christopher McGinnis from Sidoti & Company.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

I guess, just in terms of -- on the international business. You've done a great job positioning yourselves in the domestic regions, and I was just wondering is there more you can do in terms of changing the business? I know you're going to change the mix of the PVA. Is there anything you can do, maybe quicker, to understand the issues internationals, especially in Brazil?

R. Berrier

Analyst

Chris, this is Roger. In Brazil, in addition to what we talked about, the mix enrichment, we saw it as a big opportunity for us. And if you look at our domestic business, the commodity business being the necessary for the compliant yarns, certainly provides a strong foothold for us to grow our PVA business. In Brazil, that compliant need doesn't exist and we compete with imports. And with the -- I guess, the capacity utilization being so low in China, the imports really coming to Brazil heavy and at low prices, and we fend off that market share by reducing our margins. One of the things that we are looking, as always, reducing our cost basis, being more competitive in Brazil, continuing the process improvement things that Bill mentioned as a core competency for us, as a company. So, as we look to reduce our cost, to produce commodity yarns. At the same time we're looking to grow that value-added mix in PVA.

William Jasper

Analyst

The only thing I'd add -- this is Bill. Chris, the only thing I'd add to that is, if you want to kind of reiterate that, both Brazil and China are both very profitable. And they're both generating cash. They're just not performing as well as our domestic businesses. So certainly, we're not building on a bad base here. So as we make improvements, I'd expect them to stay profitable and start increasing.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

Just looking at the guidance for 4Q. A little stronger than I was expecting. I thought maybe the strength last year was due to some, I guess, built up or pent-up demand in terms of holiday shutdowns. So is the strength coming up next quarter or this quarter, I guess? Is that more just the domestic business is really taking off? Can you maybe just explain that strength a little bit? I was thinking it was a little bit weaker on a year-over-year when it sounds like it's going to be comparable.

James Otterberg

Analyst

Chris, this is James. Yes, your memory's good, thank you. The fourth quarter last year was very strong and it was very strong domestically. Fourth quarter also included 14 weeks in the prior year period. But as Roger mentioned in his script, the company is very optimistic about it. It's PVA growth mix, enrichment efforts and other developments that have happened in the domestic business over the last 12 to 15 months. So that's the reason for our excitement of Q4.

R. Berrier

Analyst

And Chris, if you look at sort of the seasonality of our business -- I mean, we do have a little bit of seasonality. Typically, the fourth quarter is one of our stronger quarters, and that's where we typically ship a lot of or more into that apparel sector. We do ship a lot of product into apparel. And the fourth quarter is when a lot of produced for back-to-school and for fall, and winter. And with the placement of our compliant yarn business, we mentioned some growth in CAFTA and our success placing PVA and REPREVE, we are anticipating a strong fourth quarter.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

Great. Great news. And then I guess 2 pieces. Just on the animal bedding. I guess, how confident are you that you -- I know you made some comments, but just maybe over the 12 months that maybe that contributes to the top and bottom line.

William Jasper

Analyst

Yes, Chris, I guess the best way to answer that is it's still an embryonic start-up business. And even if we're wildly successful, I wouldn't expect to see any appreciable return to the company over the next year or 2. I mean, it's just something that'll grow. Initial trials look very good. They're still a long way to go before we decide we actually have a business that we're going to invest in there. But I think, 6 to 9 months from now, we'll have a much clearer view as to what the potential is and how much we'll be investing in that business and what the potential returns might be. But certainly, nothing has happened, since the last call, has a stopper.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

And then maybe just on the capital allocation. You talked about 2015, pretty high number for CapEx. Can you just talk about -- is that guidance for next year in terms of CapEx? And maybe what's the opportunity that you're talking about with that increase in CapEx for '15, if that's where the number ends and shakes out?

William Jasper

Analyst

Yes, Chris, this is Bill again. First of all, I mean, the higher authorization for our capital spending next year was based on specific projects that we have identified, we're not really ready to talk about those projects right now. We'll certainly be talking about them as we approve each projects and move on. It's just happens suffice to say that we've identified additional fairly quick payback opportunities, especially around our PVA products, which we believe are going to be very positive. And we've gotten authorization board should our Board to 'move forward on that. Certainly, with any capital plan, things could change us to move forward, could go up, could go down depending on what we find out as we get into it. But suffice it to say, we've identified opportunities. The Board's optimistic about what we've been proposing and we've got an authorization to significantly increase our capital spending next year, with a fairly high payback.

Chris McGinnis

Analyst

Great. And just one last piece, I believe you've talked about this but when you talk about some REPREVE -- maybe some higher growth rate from that product. You didn't jump into any specifics in terms of what those programs were, those initiatives. Maybe can you dig in a little bit more of -- just maybe your confidence behind it? I know, obviously, it's done well, it just sounds like there's more behind, I guess, there's more growth than -- it could pick up if a little bit quicker if you invested a little bit more, from the way you're talking about the REPREVE brand itself?

R. Berrier

Analyst

This is Roger. I mean, when we look at REPREVE, I think one of the things that's been exciting for us is we've been marketing REPREVE and we talk about our consumer marketing campaigns and some of our involvement with X Games and some of the things that we may be doing in the future with Marvel and Detroit Lions football. I mean, certainly that's sort of out of our historical element. But what we're finding with the REPREVE is, it's growing outside of our normal textile core customers. There's other customers that need polyester, recycled polyester-type product. They need a high-quality product that we've developed with REPREVE, and so we're finding opportunities to sell REPREVE polymer outside of our traditional customers. And this has opened up some growth opportunities for us. And as Bill mentioned, we're looking at some new capital type plans to support this type of activity. Anything that we're looking at, certainly, we'll run it through our process to make sure that the payback and the growth and all of the risk factors are considered.

William Jasper

Analyst

Chris, just one more point I want to clarify. Like any good analyst, I'm sure you're going to run back and start thinking about what those returns might be. On that $27 million, about $8 million to $10 million of that is regular maintenance capital that we typically spend every year to keep our equipment in top condition and top efficiency. So consider that when you think about that when you think about our capital spending.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the next question is from Steven Calvin [ph], private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

I have a question about the stock buyback. Is there any correlation between when you ended the stock buyback in the last session versus the price now? It's down about 20%.

James Otterberg

Analyst

The company completed its additional [ph] $50 million stock repurchase program during the quarter and a new one was authorized yesterday. The markets, in total, have been down some this year. So that correlation, it is probably your own personal opinion. The company's quarterly results are in line with our expectations since the last time we talked and our annual guidance is slightly higher than the last time that we talked.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Right, I'm a shareholder. And if you took that $50 million and gave it out as a dividend, that would drum more interest in the stock because I think that the more stock you keep buying and taking off the market makes the stock more illiquid. So there's a lot of trading there, there's a lot swings in the price. And instead of giving back the money to the shareholders, it seems like you're just creating more of a volatile stock price.

James Otterberg

Analyst

Yes, sir. Thank you for your opinion.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Don't I have a voice in some of the -- there's no plans to increase shareholder value?

James Otterberg

Analyst

No, I think the company considers all its options as it relates to how to best grow the business today and in the future, and maximize the value for all shareholders.

William Jasper

Analyst

Yes. Let me just add to that. This is Bill. Look, as we move forward with excess cash, we evaluate every opportunity to increase shareholder value. That may include investment and high payback capital, it could be investment in consumer advertising. It certainly includes stock buyback, as well as dividends, which has been under consideration with the Board all through this time period. I guess the best way to answer your question is, we are focused, certainly, on shareholder value. And we will do what we believe is the best thing to do at any given time, and if we felt that giving dividends was the base way to increase shareholder value, that's something we would have done. Certainly, it's not something we consider to be the best route today. And I think, as we move forward, just continue to pay attention to how we're spending our cash and what we're doing with our cash. And certainly, we value the opinion of all shareholders as to what we're doing it. But obviously, we've got to make judgments and decisions based on what we believe is the best use of that cash. And certainly, I will reiterate to you, one of our key focuses is to increase shareholder value, that's something we're very sensitive to. And not everybody may agree with the way we do that. But rest assured, we've got the shareholders' best interest at heart. And that'll really be the way I answer your question.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Okay. I'm not a militant shareholder, but I own probably 1.5% of the stock. And I've been following you since 2010 when I became a shareholder and you're doing a great job. It's just seems that the value and the brand is so strong right now that I would think that other companies would be trying to acquire you or someone like Hanes who has a big vested interest in the well-being of Unifi that they would try to make overtures to purchase the company or something to drum up more interest.

James Otterberg

Analyst

Yes. No, understood. Thank you very much.

William Jasper

Analyst

And we appreciate your confidence in the company.

Operator

Operator

And the next question is from Eric Pisauro from Regency Group.

Eric Pisauro

Analyst

You mentioned being excited for the fourth quarter. What is the guidance for the full year or next quarter in particular?

William Jasper

Analyst

Our guidance for the fourth quarter is $17 million to $18 million adjusted EBITDA. And since we're at about $39.5 million now, we're looking at $57 million to $58 million for the full year.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And the next question is from Markham Solid [ph], a private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

I just wanted to know whether there's any competitive products to REPREVE in the market.

R. Berrier

Analyst

Yes, this is Roger. There are competitive products to REPREVE in the market. Particularly more as we compete in the Asian supply chain. Typically, we got the brands and retailers, and we talk to them about Unifi and our product offerings, specifically REPREVE in this case. We sell them on the concept that we can produce REPREVE and service REPREVE here in the U.S., Central America, Brazil and also Asia. So wherever that retailer or brand decides to source their product, Unifi is able, and around the world, to supply REPREVE. If they decide to put that program here in the NAFTA-CAFTA region, we are one of the few people that produce recycled polyester in this region. If they decide to put that product in Asia and source the product there, then we do have 2 or 3 competitors of recycled polyester in Asia.

Operator

Operator

Thank you and there's no further questions in queue at this time. I'll turn the call back over for closing remarks.

William Jasper

Analyst

Okay. This is Bill again. I'll just close with a few thoughts. As we've said, over these last several calls, NAFTA-CAFTA region continues to be stable and continues to grow. We were seeing opportunities to grow polyester DTY, and our attention would be to add capacity as needed since we have the cash, and certainly, we're more cost -- we can add that capacity, more cost competitively than anybody else because of our size. The economy's stable and is growing, albeit slowly. But we're seeing a significant PVA in REPREVE opportunities, especially as we grow consumer awareness around the REPREVE brand. And finally, I'll leave you with one more thought. Our focus continues to be to invest in and drive growth in defensible high-value businesses, like REPREVE, and to really focus on reducing our reliance on commodity imports-sensitive businesses. And with that, I'll thank you, all, for your interest, and have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. You may now disconnect. Good day.