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United Community Banks, Inc. (UCB)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Wed, Jul 26, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and welcome to United Community Banks Second Quarter Earnings Call. Hosting our call today our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Jimmy Tallent; President and Chief Operating Officer, Lynn Harton; Chief Financial Officer, Jefferson Harralson; Chief Credit Officer, Rob Edwards. United's presentation today includes references to operating earnings, pretax, pre-credit earnings and other non-GAAP financial information. For these non-GAAP financial measures, United has provided a reconciliation to the corresponding GAAP financial measure in the financial highlights section of the earnings release as well as at the end of the investor presentation. Both are included on the website at ucbi.com. Copies of the second quarter's earnings release and investor presentation were filed this morning on Form 8-K with the SEC; and a replay of this call will be available in the Investor Relations section of the company's website at ucbi.com. Please be aware that during this call, forward-looking statements may be made by representatives of United. Any forward-looking statements should be considered in light of risks and uncertainties described on Page 4 of the company's 2016 Form 10-K, as well as other information provided by the company in its filings with the SEC and included on its website. At this time, I will turn the call over to Jimmy Tallent.

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Good morning and thank you for joining our second quarter earnings call. We had a good solid second quarter with double digit growth in operating earnings per share and meaningful improvement in a number of other key financial performance measures. Overall, we’re very pleased with our results. I will start with some highlights. Net income was $28.3 million, or $0.39 per diluted share, included in those results were merger related and executive retirement charges totaling $1.1 million after tax or $0.02 per share. Excluding the merger-related and other charges, net operating income was $29.4 million, or $0.41 per diluted share, representing a strong 14% increase over the second quarter of 2016. Our return on assets on an operating basis was 1.10%, up 3 basis points from both a year ago and the first quarter. Our operating return on tangible common equity was 12.2%, up 63 basis points from last year. Our net interest margin grows 12 basis points from a year ago and was up 2 basis points from first quarter, slightly better than our expectations from last quarter. Our higher margin and disciplined expense management combined to lower our operating efficiency ratio excluding merger-related and other charges to 56.2%, our best in more than a decade. All of our capital ratios remained strong and at $13.74 our tangible book value increased $0.44 from first quarter. We recently announced a strategic partnership with Four Oaks Bank & Trust Company that will extend our footprint into the Raleigh area. We're very excited to partner with Four Oaks and we look forward to growing in that market. I'll have more to say about that in just a moment. Now, I will ask Lynn to share the details of the first quarter.

Lynn Harton

Management

Thanks Jimmy. As you can see on Page 8 of the investor presentation pre-tax, pre-credit earnings were $47.4 million, up $2.5 million from the first quarter and up $5.9 million from a year ago. Note that our year-over-year variances were also impacted by the Tidelands acquisition. Our net interest revenue increased during the quarter in part due to an increase in our margin. As outlined on Page 8 of the investor deck, our margin increased 2 basis points in the quarter, primarily due to the impact of rising short-term interest rates. Deposit pricing remains relatively flat with cost of deposits moving up just 3 basis points versus last quarter. We've not changed deposit pricing generally, but we have run some limited CD specials and we have selectively adjusted non-maturity deposit rates. To date those adjustments have been very limited and we aren't seeing significant pressure on deposit rates. Turning to Slide 10, our second quarter loan production was strong with an 8% increase from the first quarter. We funded $667 million in new loans in the second quarter compared with $615 million in the first quarter. Approximately $461 million of that was produced by our community banks, Atlanta and South Carolina led this production consistent with the past two quarters. The specialized lending areas now referred to as commercial banking solutions, as I will explain in a moment, produced $166 million loans. At quarter end, loans totaled $7.04 billion, an increase of $76 million over the first quarter or an annualized rate of 4%. Production increased nicely in the latter part of the quarter. And as we look forward, we expect findings from our Senior Care Group and our new renewable energy lending initiative led by Clayton Summers to continue to push our loan growth rate up from the second…

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Thank you, Lynn. This was a very solid quarter for United with a number of significant achievements. I'd like to comment on two items in particular. First, this was our 12th consecutive quarter of double-digit earnings per share growth. That is a tremendous accomplishment for our bankers. Second, our 56.2% operating efficiency ratio was our best in more than a decade. This was in and of itself a great achievement, but when at the same time you earn the J.D. Power award for top customer satisfaction in the southeast for the 4th consecutive year. It is truly remarkable and again total credit to our great team of bankers. Also in the second quarter, we announced two acquisitions that will allow us to expand our presence in the fast growing Myrtle Beach MSA and entered the Raleigh MSA. In April, we announced a partnership with Horry County State Bank in the Myrtle Beach area with $375 million in assets and a presence in one of the strongest MSAs in the country. We expect to close at the end of July and complete systems integration in November. This is a win on two fronts. Horry County and greater Myrtle Beach is a mark in which we want to expand and Horry County State Bank is a solid cultural fit with United with the same customer service emphasis for which we were both known. Then on June the 27th, we announced the acquisition of Four Oaks Bank, EUR105 community bank with ten branches and two LPOs in the Raleigh North Carolina MSA and branches in Dunn and Wallace in Eastern North Carolina. Four Oaks has a very strong deposit base and low cost of funds, and over time has been locating mortgage branches in and around the Raleigh area to take advantage of…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. [Operator Instructions] And our first question is coming from the line of Jennifer Demba with SunTrust Robinson. Your line is open.

Jennifer Demba

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning.

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Hi, Jennifer.

Lynn Harton

Management

Hi.

Jennifer Demba

Analyst

Hi. The renewable energy lender you've hired, what kind of potential do you see for a portfolio in that segment?

Lynn Harton

Management

Hi, Jennifer. This is Lynn. We're really focusing on solar farms there, typically backed by take or pay contracts, typical project size, $7 million to $15 million. We’ve had some experience with that with a couple of existing customers and also one of our existing middle market bankers and whose kind of how we got interested in it. It’s not going to be a game changer, but we think over the next eighteen months $150 million somewhere in that range would be a reasonable target for us to be able to book.

Jennifer Demba

Analyst

Okay. And any other new lending lines you're looking at right now or evaluating Lynn?

Lynn Harton

Management

Not right at the moment. We're really focusing in on Raleigh, very excited about recruiting there and getting some great interest. And so that's kind of I guess in a way our newest lending area as the present.

Jennifer Demba

Analyst

Okay. And do you need any additional branches in Raleigh to be where you want to be in terms of a footprint standpoint there?

Lynn Harton

Management

We certainly will over time. The Four Oaks team, which I've been very impressed with by the way, already has loan production office there. So our focus would be to continue to build that out, add to the mortgage area, which we think is a huge opportunity in Raleigh. And then selectively look at perhaps one to two branches over time once that revenue is in place.

Jennifer Demba

Analyst

Great, thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Catherine Mealor of KBW. Your line is open.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning.

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Good morning, Catherine.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Lynn, you mentioned in your comments that you expect about a 2% to 3% reduction in the growth rate from the run up of the indirect auto portfolio, but you don't expect an impact to the bottom line. Can you walk us through some of the offsets that you expect?

Jefferson Harralson

Analyst

This is Jeff. So, I think, Catherine, I can talk about that.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Great. Hey, Jefferson.

Jefferson Harralson

Analyst

When we start talking about the indirect auto piece of it, when I came in here we started looking at the various relative of attractiveness of various investments including that one and in a rising rate environment we're also looking at the lowest yielding assets. And as we start thinking about it, it just made business sense to let it run-off. It’s really not hard to replace the earnings with just the typical securities that we are buying now. So from a yield perspective relatively easy to replace, we can also replace it in a capital efficient manner. Optically, it’s going to make our loan growth a little bit lower, but financially it makes all the sense in the world to replace that earning asset with a similar one and with less capital treatment on it.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Got it. So basically the offset is going to be in the securities book versus the loan book near-term.

Jefferson Harralson

Analyst

That's correct. That's correct.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

All right, I like them. And then do you also have the amount of the accelerated discount this quarter.

Jefferson Harralson

Analyst

Yes, $1.4 million.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Okay, great. And then one last one on the Four Oaks deal. Can you talk a little bit about some of your assumptions in your EPS accretion there, effective cost savings and expected growth rate of that portfolio and how much of that growth rate should come from additional hires over time?

Jefferson Harralson

Analyst

Yeah, I could take that one too. So recall we have $0.04 of EPS accretion in our model. We're adding a mortgage originator there and we have about 5% of balance sheet growth there, so think about that as the revenue growth. 35% cost savings, of that 30% is salary and benefits, 40% is lower OREO costs and other professional fees and 38 – or a lot of small as I will just put in the other category. We actually have two models for Four Oaks that get us to $0.04 for this year. One is our base case of with the assumption I’ve laid out. The second one is a higher growth model in which we lift out teams, which we’re optimistic that we can possibly do, but with the extra expenses and the extra growth you still get to the $0.04 in 2018 either way, but if we’re able to achieve a lift out and bring some people in then it starts looking different in the out years, so 2020 looks a lot more accretive if we’re able to do some of the hiring we think we might be able to do.

Catherine Mealor

Analyst

Right, great, super helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Michael Rose of Raymond James. And your line is open.

Michael Rose

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning. How are you?

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Hey, Michael. Good morning.

Michael Rose

Analyst

Hey, just wanted to follow-up on the loan growth question. So it seems like you'll have headwind from the indirect auto runoff, which makes sense. But then you hired the energy lender. Can you talk about $150 million book over the next eighteen months or so? I would expect obviously some of the other markets that continue to grow. So when do you think we get back to kind of that previous guidance range of mid to high single digits, understanding that obviously the near-term is going to be impacted by that run-off?

Lynn Harton

Management

Michael, this is Lynn. It’s a little hard to say and if you look at the production slide on Page 10 part of the difference is in our investor real estate book and we've consciously as we talked about kind of step back from that we're not seeing any deterioration there, we're not underwriting still strong, but it just felt right from a kind of prudence perspective to back off of that and let some of the current construction in the whole market get absorbed. It's a market we can get back into very easily. So we're looking at our senior care. We've added also a new middle market lender, you mentioned the solar farms, a renewable energy piece, to kind of pick up the growth, but the other muted piece is the much slower growth rate investor real estate for now.

Michael Rose

Analyst

Okay, so maybe a mid single-digit rate is kind of more and more appropriate as we think about 2018, Lynn.

Lynn Harton

Management

Yeah, other than in 2018, we will also Raleigh come in on and again we're very comfortable with that market, both Rob and I know that market. Well, we've got long relationships there. We’re, as Jefferson mentioned, very optimistic about our ability to pull teams in there. So you'll have that piece coming in 2018. We feel strongly about.

Michael Rose

Analyst

Okay. And then just as a separate follow up, you guys mentioned that you’re comfortable with the consensus estimate for the third quarter I think that’s $0.40. Looks like the way you would get there obviously is some additional reserve release which probably continues in the back half of the year – or in the fourth quarter obviously credit is good and the outlook is good there as you mentioned. So is that the right way to kind of think about how you bridge that gap.

Lynn Harton

Management

Yeah, I would think about is slightly different from that because we do have a higher provision to our model going forward. We do think we'll have we have some positive seasonality helping us out in the back half of the year with SBA generally increasing in the back half. We've had some good operating leverage in the first half of the year. We think the core piece of that will continue to improve in the second half of the year. We also get some cost savings from Horry that that helps out. So the provision piece is going to increase, but we still think we can generate some operating leverage to help offset much of that Durbin impact.

Michael Rose

Analyst

Got it. Okay, that that clears it up. Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Christopher Marinac of FIG Partners. Your line is open.

Christopher Marinac

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, guys. I just want to follow up on the excess liquidity that you have. If we look out a year and just don't factor any M&A into it. Do you think that you will have made a material sort of dense in the excess liquidity? I’m just curious kind of where you think that will look out a few quarters from now.

Lynn Harton

Management

Probably, Chris, are you thinking about the loan to deposit ratios kind of what you're thinking about there?

Christopher Marinac

Analyst

Correct and just does how securities come down and impact the margin et cetera.

Lynn Harton

Management

Yep. So, let’s talk about that a little bit. So we have an 81% loan to deposit ratio now did move up a little bit this quarter. It is a very flexible loan to deposit ratio with rates moving higher. We get a little more flexibility also I think with the indirect portfolio shrinking a little bit. We do think that margin can increase a little bit. One reason is what you're talking about is the mix change from securities to loans as we slowly increase that loan to deposit ratio here. We may have a little bit of margin expansion still to come from the last rate hike. We also did call some senior debt that is going to help a little bit in the third quarter and some in the fourth. Our deposit base have been relatively low as well. We do think that deposit costs are going to increase a little bit. So all things equal, we think we have a balance sheet that’s pretty conservatively – conservative is very liquid as you note and we think that we can translate that into the higher earnings over time.

Christopher Marinac

Analyst

Great, that's helpful. Thanks for all that background. I guess my follow up separately has to do with M&A. And as you build out Raleigh and perhaps if you’re successful to get a team or two, does that make the next acquisition you do more accretive incrementally? Is that part of the thought process as you kind of take a careful approach on this Four Oaks?

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Well, certainly, it would be advantageous, Chris. The opportunity we see particularly with the relationships that Lynn and Rob and others have in that market could be we believe significant over time that's not to lessen the importance, value and contribution of the Four Oaks Bank. They have tremendous deposit base, core deposits, fabulous customer loyalty, a number of their customers only because of their size that they aren’t able to bank at the level that their customers need. So when you add all that together, we see that expansion that partnership, the quality of the bank, the springboard opportunity to be really significant for United in the short, medium and long-term.

Christopher Marinac

Analyst

Great, Jimmy. Thank you for that. I appreciate it guys.

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is from the line of Tyler Stafford of Stephens. Your line is open.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Hey, good morning everyone.

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Hi, Tyler.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Hi. I just wanted follow up on the allowance question earlier in the comment and the press release about the allowance ratio to total loans slightly declining from here. Is that inclusive of the fair value marks from Horry County and Four Oaks acquisition?

Rob Edwards

Analyst

So, Tyler, this is Rob. I think the short answer is yes. So the way that we're thinking about the allowance today I know the published number is 84 bps. When we add in the existing marks, we've got 25 million, it comes out to 1.20 coverage on loans. And then, of course, both the Horry County and the – so on the Horry County we’ve got a little bit over a 6% credit mark and then on the Four Oaks one we've got just under a 4% mark. And so those come into the portfolio and that will drive down the allowance ratio that gets published because right out of the gate those loans are covered by the purchase mark.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Yeah, but you are referring to GAAP reserves not GAAP with the discount.

Rob Edwards

Analyst

Right.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Okay. Oh, do you happen to have what the accelerated accretion was on the securities yield that the slide deck referenced?

Rob Edwards

Analyst

Yes, added up 2 basis points for this quarter.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Okay and still expect margin to expand next quarter absent that benefit this quarter.

Rob Edwards

Analyst

That's correct. We may get one more quarter of impact from ABS prepayments, absent that we do believe we get slight expansion to.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Okay. And then just lastly for me is on SBA and you referenced stronger back half of the year out of the SBA business. And it looks like the last couple quarters you’re seeing better pricing out of the SBA sales. I guess one is that accurate and then any inside into – to what’s driving that better pricing and expectations for gain on sale out of the SBA business going forward?

Rob Edwards

Analyst

Yeah, so they've really been fairly stable. It's just the mix. So depending on whether they're longer-term loans or shorter-term loans is kind of what drives the actual recorded margin. So we see and being stable in the third quarter, they could – margins could come down very slightly in the fourth quarter due to some pooling changes and how SBA securities are sold, but fourth quarter is also our seasonably highest quarter. So we don't anticipate a significant impact from that.

Tyler Stafford

Analyst

Okay, very helpful. Thank you guys. Operator Thank you. And at this time, I am showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back over Mr. Jimmy Tallent.

Jimmy Tallent

Management

Thank you operator and certainly I want to thank everyone on the call today. Any follow up question, don't hesitate to reach out to any of us. I do want to recognize and compliment once again our senior management team, our full team throughout our footprint for the superb job that they do day in and day out. Thanks so much for being on the call. I look forward to talking with you soon.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everybody have a great day.