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Twin Disc, Incorporated (TWIN)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Twin Disc, Incorporated fiscal second quarter 2025 conference call. We will begin with introductory remarks from Jeff Knutson, Twin Disc's CFO. Good morning, and thank you for joining us today to discuss our fiscal 2025 second quarter results. On the call with me today is John Batten, Twin Disc's CEO. I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this conference call, especially statements expressing hopes, beliefs, expectations, or predictions for the future, are forward-looking statements. It is important to remember that the company's actual results could differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements. Information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are contained in the company's annual report on Form 10-Ks, copies of which may be obtained by contacting either the company or the SEC. Any forward-looking statements that are made during this call are based on assumptions as of today, and the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise these statements to reflect subsequent events or new information. During today's call, management will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures. For a definition of non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results, please see the earnings release issued earlier today. By now, you should have received the news release, which was issued this morning before the market opened. If you have not received a copy, please call our office at 262-638-4000, and we will send a release to you. Now I'll turn the call over to John.

John Batten

Management

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our fiscal 2025 second quarter conference call. I appreciate you joining us today. We are pleased to report another quarter of strong double-digit sales growth, with second quarter sales of $89.3 million reflecting a 23.2% year-over-year increase as we close out a successful first half of the fiscal year. We continue to see meaningful contributions from Kato Oi, which is allowing us to extend our global footprint and deepen our engineering capabilities, particularly in Europe and North America. We remain committed to ensuring seamless integration of Casa and are excited to unlock its full potential. Our focus is on capitalizing on cross-selling opportunities, optimizing shared cost efficiencies, streamlining our business lines, and maintaining strong execution. At the same time, we are pleased to see continued strength in shipments of VET products meeting the robust demand for cutting-edge electric, hybrid, and conventional propulsion systems. We are maintaining a healthy backlog across all of our end markets and are encouraged by continued stabilization with our industrial business over the quarter. Shifting to the product segment, sales in our marine propulsion segment grew 23.9% year over year. This performance was driven by ongoing strength in our VET product line, which once again delivered record orders as demand remains consistent globally. Incoming orders were driven in part by demand from both new North American projects within commercial applications and the luxury yacht markets, supported by our Roll Up partnership. Meanwhile, increased government defense spending has sustained demand for patrol boat projects, mainly driven by evolving market dynamics surrounding ongoing geopolitical conflicts in Southeast Asia and Europe. The integration of VET continues to yield meaningful synergy, positioning us to capture market opportunities in conventional, electric, and hybrid propulsion applications with our hybrid marine transmissions and control system. We remain…

Jeff Knutson

Management

Thanks, John. Good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, we delivered sales of $89.9 million for the quarter, up $15.9 million or 23.2% from the prior year, driven by a $10 million incremental benefit from Casa. On an organic basis, which excludes the impact of acquisitions and foreign currency exchange, revenue increased 10.1% as demand in our global end markets remained healthy. Net income attributable to Twin Disc for the second quarter was $900,000 or $0.07 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $900,000 or $0.07 per diluted share in the second quarter of fiscal 2024. Earnings per share were impacted by an increase in other expenses related to interest expense and additional pension amortization in the quarter. Gross profit margin decreased to 24.1% compared to 28.3% during the prior year period, and gross profit increased 5% to $21.7 million. The decline in gross profit margins was driven by a $1.6 million inventory write-down related to the Casa acquisition as we eliminated redundant inventory along with the $300,000 purchase accounting amortization expense tied to the acquisition and unfavorable product mix in the quarter. Looking at top-line sales distribution, we delivered double-digit growth in all three of the Marine and Propulsion Systems, Land-Based Transmission, and Industrial segments. This was mainly driven by ongoing healthy market demand and geographic expansion, including the additional benefit of the Casa acquisition and the continued stabilization in the industrial segment, which fosters strong year-over-year growth. Touching on geographic distribution, we again saw increased sales in Europe as a result of our acquisition of Casa as well as a larger proportion of sales from North American markets on strength in the VET projects in the region. Compared to the second fiscal quarter of 2024, net debt increased $12.3 million to $9 million in the quarter,…

John Batten

Management

Thanks, Jeff. In summary, we delivered another strong quarter of top-line growth, buoyed by robust demand in marine and propulsion, and recovery in industrial along with ongoing integration successes with Casa. While we navigated margin headwinds from product mix, we have made proactive steps to right-size our inventory rationalization and enhance profitability. Our backlog, albeit lower sequentially due to FX, remains at a healthy level, and cash flow has improved significantly as a result of inventory management. We believe we are well-positioned for long-term growth thanks to our expanding portfolio of higher content, high-value solutions, and increasingly diversified global footprint and strategic focus on electrification and hybrid systems. We are committed to delivering value to our customers, employees, and shareholders through consistent execution and strategic investment. That concludes our prepared remarks. Now Jeff and I will be happy to answer your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star and the number one on your cell phone keypad. Our first question comes from the line of Simon Wong from Gabelli Funds. The line's open.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Jeff, John, good morning.

Jeff Knutson

Management

Hey, Simon. Just a quick note. John, unfortunately, wasn't able to join us for the Q&A session today, but I'm happy to take your question and anybody's question.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Okay. No problem. Just my quick question on the oil and gas. Talk about export being down. Can you quantify how much your oil and gas business is this quarter? And how much was it down year over year?

Jeff Knutson

Management

Yeah. Good question. And I was prepared for that question, Simon. Yeah. It was down; it was about a little under 8% of revenue for the quarter and down compared to the prior year Q2, down about 24%.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Okay. In your prepared remarks, you talked about quote activity remains high. Is that North American quoting activity, or is that Asian quoting activity?

Jeff Knutson

Management

It's both. It's North America, it's Asia, and also some South American activity as well.

Simon Wong

Analyst

South America or

Jeff Knutson

Management

Yeah.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Okay. Yeah. And then it sounds like the ordering trend or activity from the oil and gas customers in light of the change administration you're seeing them getting back to work. Is that a correct statement?

Jeff Knutson

Management

I think it maybe it's a little bit early to say that. I think what we've seen is, yeah, an increased level of activity, some new calls, some new potential projects. So it feels like, yeah, we would say it's kind of a renewed level of activity in that market.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Okay, great. And then can you just refresh your CapEx outlook for the year and then on the free cash flow are you still targeting to convert 60% of your EBITDA to free cash flow?

Jeff Knutson

Management

Yeah. I mean, that's certainly our goal right And we, as we talked about after Q1, we had a difficult Q1 for a variety of reasons. In terms of free cash flow, bounced back nicely in Q2. You know, free cash flow in Q2 of about $6.4 million. So we're still targeting to get to that 60% of EBITDA. I think it's a bit of a stretch this year given the difficult Q1, but, you know, we're on a good trend now following Q2. In terms of CapEx, I think no big change there. You know, we're, I would say, a little bit behind pace. We've spent something like $5 million through the first half of the year. We have some bigger projects coming through in the second half. I think in the range of $12 to $14 million is probably where I'd peg it right now.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Okay. If I can squeeze one more in if I can. You talked about R&D investing in R&D to expand the market or to capture growth in the market. Anything that you can talk about that you're being that's being commercialized this year that will contribute to growth?

Jeff Knutson

Management

No. I don't think there's anything that we're ready to talk about. Specifically in terms of new products or new technologies. I think, you know, we continue on the hybrid electric market, and that's an ongoing development. We continue to get more and more traction there, more orders, more interest, more activity, and we continue to expand our capabilities in that market, and that's a big focus for growth.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star and the number one on your cell phone keypad. And our question comes back from the line of Simon Wong from Gabelli Funds. Please go ahead.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Jeff, since no one is asking questions, can we get one more in? The electric track fleet that you are piloting two, three quarters ago, any uptick on that product?

Jeff Knutson

Management

Yeah. I would say it's stable. You know, it's ongoing. I wouldn't say there's anything newsworthy in the quarter that we could share. It's an ongoing process for us.

Simon Wong

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. It seems like there are no more questions in the queue. That concludes our question and answer session. It also concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.