Operator
Operator
Good day and welcome to the TTM Technologies Incorporated Q4 Earnings Call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Sameer Desai, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
TTM Technologies, Inc. (TTMI)
Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 8, 2018
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Operator
Operator
Good day and welcome to the TTM Technologies Incorporated Q4 Earnings Call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Sameer Desai, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Sameer Desai
Management
Thanks, Stephanie. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that today's call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements related to TTM's future business outlook. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to one or more risks and uncertainties including the factors explained in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K and our other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These forward-looking statements are based on management's expectations and assumptions as of the date of this presentation. TTM does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any of these statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or other circumstances, except as required by law. Please refer to our full disclosures regarding the risks that may affect TTM which may be found in the reports on Form 10-K, 10-Q, 8-K, the registration statement on Form S-4 and the Company's other SEC filings. We will also discuss on this call certain non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA. Such measures should not be considered as a substitute for the measures prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP and we direct you to the reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures included in the Company's press release which was filed with the SEC and is available on TTM's website at www.ttm.com. I would now like to turn the call over to Tom Edman, TTM's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, Tom.
Thomas Edman
Management
Thank you, Sameer. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us for our fourth quarter and fiscal year 2017 conference call. I'll begin with a review of our business strategy, including highlights from our 2017 fiscal year, followed by a discussion of our fourth quarter results. Todd Schull, our CFO, will follow with an overview of certain key balance sheet and cash flow metrics, our Q4 2017 financial performance and Q1 2018 guidance. We will then open the call for your questions. First and foremost I would like to thank our employees for delivering an excellent year in 2017 for TTM Technologies. We achieved record revenues during fiscal year 2017 and closed the year with a solid fourth quarter non-GAAP EPS of $0.57, leading to an annual EPS in 2017 of $1.57. The highest level achieved in the history of the company. We also signed a definitive agreement to acquire Anaren Incorporated in December, representing a critical step forward in our differentiation strategy. The 2017 results validated many of the elements of the TTM strategy we've communicated over the past year. First, the diversification of our end markets helped to reduce quarterly volatility and grow total company revenues in what was a challenging year in one of our end markets. Specifically, growth in our aerospace and defense, cellular and computing end markets helped to offset the difficult conditions in the networking and communications end market. Second, the automotive market continued to be a core growth driver, due to increasing electronics content as well as the adoption of advanced technologies. We see four key mega trends driving automotive PCB content growth; vehicle safety and autonomous driving, increasing adoption of hybrid and electric vehicles, advanced infotainment and increased connectivity. Current forecast have recently been revised upwards to $62 in PCB content per…
Todd Schull
Management
Thanks, Tom and good afternoon everyone. We had a strong fourth quarter and let me just summarize a few highlights. Revenue in the quarter of $739.3 million was a record. Revenue grew 5% year-over-year, notwithstanding that the fourth quarter of 2016 had an extra week. Adjusting for that, sales actually grew more than 9% year-over-year. For the full year, revenue was $2.7 billion, which was also an all-time high for the company. Non-GAAP operating margin was 11.4%, exceeding expectations. For the full year, we achieved an operating margin of 9.6%, an improvement from 8.8% in 2016 and very close to our target model of 10%. Non-GAAP EPS was $0.57 cents in the fourth quarter, above the high end of guidance, even including the negative impact of $0.04 per share or $5.2 million of unrealized non-cash foreign exchange loss, due primarily to the depreciation of the U.S. dollar versus the Chinese currency. Excluding this impact, EPS was $0.61per share. For the full year, we earned $1.57 in EPS, an increase of 12% from $1.40 in 2016. We generated $121.7 million of adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter. For the full year we generated adjusted EBITDA of $389 million. Cash flow from operations in the fourth quarter was $152.7 million, an all-time record high for the company. For the full year cash flow from operations was $332.8 million, an increase of 10% year-over-year and another record high. On to the details, for the fourth quarter, net sales were $739.3million, compared to net sales of $706.5 million in the fourth quarter of 2016 and compared to third quarter 2017 net sales of $666.8 million. The year over year increase in revenue was due to strong growth in our cellular and aerospace and defense end markets, partially offset by lower revenue in our networking…
Operator
Operator
Absolutely. [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Matt Sheerin with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Matt Sheerin
Analyst
Yeah, thank you. Good afternoon.
Thomas Edman
Management
Hello, Matt.
Matt Sheerin
Analyst
Hey Tom and team. So I guess just a question on the EPS and the implied margin target. It looks like you still despite - it looks you're going to have about 45% or so decrease sequentially in your cellular business, but that's still up significantly year-over-year, so I expect to see some of these year-over-year leverage there. So I'm just trying to figure out in addition to the things talked about, why the margins would be so weak. And as you look to the rest of the year, do you think you can - excluding Anaren obviously, that you think you can improve margins on a year-over-year basis as you get through the year?
Thomas Edman
Management
Let me take a crack at that Matt. So first in regards to the Q1 margins. You're correct, you observed that. We have our normal seasonal downturn in the cellular business and it's pretty significant. As you know from a lot of public disclosure by lots of companies, the Q1 prospects in our cellular phone market are definitely softer than maybe we thought they might be a few months ago. Now having said that, keep in mind that this cycle, this phone cycle with our biggest customer incorporates a new technology and that new technology drove a different selling price or ASP compared to maybe a much narrow range, a different range for the prior generations, last few generations of products. So from a revenue standpoint, you still see a pretty solid number, but the units underlying that revenue are different year-over-year. So when you look at our - then you come back to the margin equation here and you say, okay, what's happening to cause the margins to be challenged and really it's attributed - it's been driven by two main factors; one, is the utilization of our facilities particularly in the cellular and networking and communications end markets. Our unit volumes were down and you compound that with the fact that in our cellular market particularly, we invested pretty significantly last year in adding new technology and new capacity to that facility. We kind of have a little bit of a double whammy going, you got capacity going up and unit volume declining at this, so the gap widens from both factors. And then you add to that really a third factor that's really just become more pronounced recently and that is the - it's currency effect on our operating cost. We've always talked about the below the…
Matt Sheerin
Analyst
Okay and just a couple of follow ups there. One, just on the commentary Tom, on your expectations for growth in the cellular business this year, I think low single digits. What kind of - maybe obviously visibility into that business as you mentioned, other suppliers are seeing the same thing, not much visibility. So how do you - what kind of visibility you have or confidence that you have that you can grow that business this year?
Thomas Edman
Management
Right and so certainly last year, very strong growth environment in cellular phones, if you look to year-on-year, we were up about 34% and as we look at this year, we certainly had a big technology shift last year with the ramp. And again I congratulate our team. I think they did a remarkable job of responding to that challenge and delivering financially. As we wind - as this particular cycle winds up, I expect that next year - the cycle towards the end of the year, we'll be looking at new product introductions and we'll be looking at those product introductions based on the technology that we pulled together and ramped in this last year. So we'll be - it will be starting - we certainly intend to be starting from a better position on yield, which will be to our advantage and beyond that if you point it out it's really a function of the end market sales. I can't handicap that at this juncture really, but the visibility that we have on cellular phone goes through a quarter and we don't give really an indication into Q2 even until Chinese New Year - post Chinese New Year, that's sort of our next indication point. And so, you're right to point out. We don't know what's going to happen in Q3, Q4, what I can say is, I'm thrilled about the work that we've done on the technology transition, where we are today on yields and where we are going to be starting on that next bill cycle in Q3.
Matt Sheerin
Analyst
Okay and just on the higher cost structure due to the currency headwinds that you're seeing, are there any plans for cost cutting or anything that you can do to help mitigate that?
Thomas Edman
Management
Yeah, I think so - and Todd really pointed to this. We run into cost headwinds all the time. I mean, that's a function of the business that we operate in and as you know in the Chinese environment we have a regular labor cost increases that we mitigate. What usually takes a period of time as to respond to sudden movements in that - sudden changes in that cost structure and how we respond to that is really how we live our business, which is a focus on continuous improvement, a focus on best practice sharing, a focus on using our capability and our size frankly to continue to drive our material cost in the right direction and so we'll continue - that drum beat never ends for TTM. So we are absolutely in the process of responding to that more and will continue to respond. And I would just remind you that a very good portion of our revenue and profitability is also North America based and not subject to that currency shift. So we've got a nice advantage there in terms of our production base.
Matt Sheerin
Analyst
Okay, thank you.
Thomas Edman
Management
Thank you, Matt.
Operator
Operator
We'll move on to our next question from William Stein from SunTrust. Please go ahead.
William Stein
Analyst
Great. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on a very good quarter. I was hoping you can help us or give a brief update on the Anaren financing given the market volatility today?
Todd Schull
Management
That's a good question. We've all been watching that very carefully the last week, where the market has been quite excited and we're pleased to see a little bit of stabilization over the last day and a half and hopefully that will foretell of a little more stability here as we go forward. So as you know, we are - we announced our acquisition, we have a purchase price of 775 million. At the time of the acquisition we announced that we would expect it to go out and raise $700 in the debt market to be able to fund that transaction. As I noted in my comments, so we've had really excellent cash flow generation through our company over the last year, almost $333 million this past year. And as a result of that you've seen our cash balance pick up here at the end of the year to over $400 million. We will use at least an extra $100 million and so to pull the acquisition and that will basically reduce the amount we plan to go financed from 700 million down to 600 million, so that's one factor. And I think it's a very positive indicator to the market, the cash generation capability of our business model. Secondly, assuming the market does stay stable, as Tom mentioned in his opening comments, we received one regulatory clearance, but still have another yet to obtain and that's the CPS approval. So we won't be able to close until we get that approval and timing our financing is a - it gives us a little bit of vacant room, but we're really trying to watch the market. We'll go to the market with probably - we've structured the underwriters to provide us with a full term loan B structure, but will consider perhaps splitting that between term loan B and high yield when we go to market depending on the market conditions at that time. But our expectations are that with our strong cash flow generation capability and I would couple that with our proven track record of deleveraging in a fairly focused and short time period, which we've committed to do again this time and getting back to our target model of 2.0 net debt leverage. We're pretty excited and confident that we'll be able to put a good package together and get out in paying that financing. The exact timing of when we go, is it tomorrow, is it next week, is it next month, that's all still to be determined.
Thomas Edman
Management
Yeah and the only thing I'd would add is that from a regulatory standpoint we still continue to look at this as a first - we intend to close in the first six months of this year and that will be dependent on the regulatory process.
William Stein
Analyst
That's helpful, thank you. One follow up if I can, it's actually a different topic. Automotive end market coming in a little bit later than we expected this quarter and you stated through push outs in the schedule, I'm wondering what you think fundamentally is behind that and maybe this is important you note that you saw the full year 2018 outlook as being within the normal range. Why shouldn't we expect it to be at or above the high end given if it's really a push as opposed to a lower level of demand momentarily then shouldn't we get through better growth in the coming year? Thank you.
Thomas Edman
Management
Sure. Yeah, so in terms of how to interpret the fourth quarter, we really - as I pointed out, it was - we had several customers in the electric vehicle area that just pushed deliveries a little bit beyond the quarter and that was primarily in our OEM solutions area. I don't read much into that, I don't - I think the comparable quarter of the year prior, they were actually - demand was very high particularly out of China on the EV side because of some subsidy changes that were going to take effect at the end of the year. So the comparable is also little bit of a difficult one. But as we look at this year, it's early in the year, we certainly share that view that we hope to be above the range right now. I think it's better to look at the range, which is a very positive view on the automotive potential of 5% to 8% growth and really reflects that electronics content growth in automotive particularly in the areas that I indicated, but I would highlight, from a TTM perspective the safety management area as well as autonomous vehicle growth is - we take advantage of our footprint, our geographic footprint in North America combined with volume production capabilities in China to support our customers there, as well as our RF experience and now I think certainly intend to build on that here as we close the Anaren acquisition.
William Stein
Analyst
Great, thanks. And good luck in the year.
Thomas Edman
Management
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
We'll take our next question from Steven Fox from Cross Research. Please go ahead.
Steven Fox
Analyst
Thank you, good afternoon. I guess first off, thanks for all the color on sort of what's going on year-over-year in Q1 with the profound next generation technology. Can you talk about how that ramps though in Q4, in other words did you meet your yield targets, was it staggered, did you see better operating leverage or is there any other cost that you had absorbed that were unexpected in Q4, a little bit more color on how that ramp went for you with that obviously relative your own performance, perhaps related to what your customers needed?
Thomas Edman
Management
Sure and we had some indication of this exiting Q3. If you remember, we were ahead of our internal forecast on yield performance in Q3 that was really - we were excited to see that. So we had momentum that we're carrying into Q4. The team continued to improve yields through the course of Q4 ahead of our expectations. We certainly - even in Q1 we're expecting that those yields will continue to improve, given that is - the extent it really is, a major change to move to a subsidy like processing technology and so we expect that to continue. I think in overall Q4 in that area really exceeded our expectations on yields, tremendous job by the organization.
Steven Fox
Analyst
Great, that's helpful. And then in terms of the auto business, you mentioned I think it was 30 new programs that are ramping over the next 12 months. Can you give us a little bit of a sense for what those 30 are by sort of end application within the customer?
Todd Schull
Management
Yeah, so a mix that those programs are a mix, they're predominantly - as you can expect, they're predominantly in the advance technology area and RF. There are a few conventional board ramp programs still ramping, but primarily you're going to see that advance technology in the RF area and so we're seeing a lot of activity - ongoing activity, particularly in sensors and electric vehicle, that area as we see growth. And again it's a function of one thing being TTMs focused technology areas, the other being our ability to support geographically the early stage development work at our customers and the way that we do that in the US is mainly through our PCB facilities, most of which are in proximity. We've got a nice footprint commercially with facilities and proximities in the Silicon Valley coupled with medium volume facilities that are in other areas of the US and then the support structure in China for ramp. That gives a lot of security to those customers. And then in Chine, we're mainly supporting these programs with our E-M solutions organization in China. Again same view, but there we're really working on assembled solutions and engaging with the customers of the assembled solutions that then drag the PCB sales along with them. So that's through the manner of engagement.
Steven Fox
Analyst
Great, thank you. And then just lastly on the cash flows which were fantastic in the quarter and the year. You're painting a picture for top line growth in 2018. I assume that that should lead to some profit growth. Does it also lead to cash flow from operations going higher or is there something going on in terms of working capital that maybe would be a drag as you think about the full the year 2018? Thank you.
Todd Schull
Management
I'll take that Steve. In regards to our working capital exercise, I identify cash cycle base as kind of our key metrics that we look at in terms of managing our working capital. We have a very vigorous program that we work internally on trying to push all the different buttons or pull the levers to gear therefore that influence that metric because it's important to us. And we estimate that a day's worth - one day of cash cycle time is $8 million of cash, so we're motivated to try to improve that. Now, is there a lot of run way to take another five or ten days off that becomes very challenging, but I don't expect deterioration on a year-over-year basis. You will see some seasonality, but if you compare our cash cycle days over the last eight quarters for example, you'll see that each year Q1 over Q1, Q2 over Q2, you'll see improvement and we would hope to continue that path, but that's a very, very challenging and difficult thing to do. But I don't expect any serious deterioration, so therefore cash flow from operations should parallel what we should see in terms of revenue and profit growth in the business.
Steven Fox
Analyst
Great, that's very helpful. Thanks again.
Todd Schull
Management
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
We'll move on to our next caller, Paul Coster with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
Paul Coster
Analyst
Thank you for taking my question. I have a few quick questions, so thanks for this full year. It looks pretty impressive, the first quarter. Should we expect the same through the remainder of the year?
Todd Schull
Management
So yeah, our guidance, the way we're looking at 2018 is that that range of 13% to 17%. So that's our projection for the full year and then you kind of tweak it as you go forward and you get more actual results.
Paul Coster
Analyst
The acquired business Anaren had operational margins that more than doubled the legacy business, so - I mean it seems reasonable to assume that operation margins are going to expand in the second half of the year once the acquisition is out of the way. Do you think the combined business will top the target range and it will have superior advise in consecutive to the Anaren integration?
Todd Schull
Management
One big variable in that is timing and as Tom mentioned, we're not sure when we're going to close, but we'll certainly try to provide a better sense of what the outlook might look like when we to get that closing date. You're right to observe that their business model generates operating margins that are twice what we normally see on the average and their EBITDA margin is mid 20s and we're kind of mid teens, so there is a significant upside into the financial model. We also expect assuming the debt markets willing, that if the - that if our financing comes in at a reasonable price if you will, that this transaction is going to be accretive very quickly if not either like in the first or second quarter after we close the transaction. And we have some synergies baked and what not, so definitely see positive contribution from the acquisition. Then you obviously would layer that on your expectations for our base business which as I indicated earlier, we've given some guidance on where we think revenue is going to look like for there, Tom's given some color on that. And as far as the profit forecasting ability, I would encourage you to make sure you look at our typical seasonal patterns. If you look over the last several years and see how our profits generally grow as revenues grows and our ability, you know what our leverage points are. We've talked often about incremental revenues drive 20% to 30% profit flow through on the PCB business. So using those metrics and your knowledge of kind of how we act over the last several years, you would have to kind of build that. I can't comment specifically to estimates that are out in the street at this point.
Paul Coster
Analyst
Last question on CPS, you've got large China based operation, but you're a US based company and US list; essentially you also got some Asia based share ownership. What kind of risks are you running here and other contingents you plan to have in place and how comfortable that you can get through the situation there?
Todd Schull
Management
So a couple of points there, so TTM is acted under a special security agreement with the US government, to a degree with the defense department since the lethal [ph] acquisition, so going on seven years now. And so there is an ongoing relationship there. There is an agreement which can be amended as needed. We take those - the requirements of that agreement very seriously and have an excellent working relationship there with the government and so slice to say that we certainly have been through the process twice so far, this is our third road here if you will and we understand the process. We have to have an existing relationship, so we have all - I'll view that we will - that is fairly optimistic about how this will come together, but there is a time table and a clock that goes with the review and we have to work through the government's time table on this. So we'll certainly keep you informed here and again either Q1 or Q2, it is our intent to close the transaction.
Paul Coster
Analyst
Okay, thank you very much.
Todd Schull
Management
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
And we'll move on to Sean Hannan with Needham & Company. Please go ahead.
Sean Hannan
Analyst
Yeah, thanks for taking my question here. It's just a question going back to automotive, when you talk about the 30 wins that you took on here and that you're expecting to ramp during the course of '18, just for reference, how many did you ramp in '17, number one and then number two, what would the timing look like for that as that proceeds there this year? Thanks.
Thomas Edman
Management
Yeah, Sean, so we haven't disclosed the number last year and this is really something that we will be doing for you going forward. In terms of when those ramps would occur there, yeah, the ramps that will be occurring in the next year and starting with relatively small volumes and then building and as you know the process here is that these programs tend to take two years to build to meaningful volume, but we're in early - at early stage volume at this point and building in the course of the next year or two commercial volumes. So you're looking at - really starting this year and then building into a more meaningful volume into 2019, 2020.
Sean Hannan
Analyst
Okay, understood. And then to follow up on some comments that were provided different segment, looking at networking and communications, so you're expecting growth to be below the typical than norm for that space this year, just trying to understand how you expect maybe the shape of that to look? Is this something where perhaps we should think about, from current point going into the middle of the year, an incremental slow down or until then maybe where we sort of uptick a little bit at the end of the year, how do we think about that general path for that segment? Thanks so much, folks.
Thomas Edman
Management
So the networking piece of this and about of two thirds of what we call networking and communications is really on the networking space and a third is on the telecom side. The networking side is always difficult - it's difficult to give visibility there in terms of - I think what we're seeing right now is an overall slowdown in the enterprise spend. I would expect that to gradually come back during the course of the year, but outside of that we deal with a very large set of networking customers and all of these are different dynamics and that causes it to be a little bit difficult to forecast. So for us forecasting a relatively flat is probably the right way to look at it through the course of the year. And then telecom would see as right now sort of bouncing along the bottom and as 5G, the initial build outs start to happen towards the end of this year and then into the next year, that's when we would expect volume to develop on the telecom side. So that's what where I think your point is, a good one that we would start to see some volume build in the Q3 timeframe and then really start seeing higher volumes as we go into next year and then into 2020.
Sean Hannan
Analyst
Okay, very helpful. Thanks for taking the questions here today folks.
Thomas Edman
Management
Thank you.
Operator
Operator
And there are no further questions in the queue. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Tom Edman for any closing remarks.
Thomas Edman
Management
Okay, thank you Stephanie and good commitment. And I'd like to just close by summarizing the points made earlier. First, we delivered really strong results for the fourth quarter of 2017. You heard the number of records that we recorded both for the fourth quarter and for the full year. So I'd like to just reiterate my congratulations to our team on just a terrific quarter. We did beat the high end of our non-GAAP EPS forecast as well as content that really was due to that solid growth and very strong operational execution and just capped off an outstanding year where we reached record revenues, non-GAAP earnings per share and operating cash flow. We are excited about closing the Anaren transaction and being able to welcome a new set of employees and terrific engineering capability into TTM and I look forward to those potential mutual benefits. And finally, I just like to close by thanking all of you our investors, our employees and all those customers who're on the phone. Thank you for your continued support. Good bye.
Operator
Operator
And this concludes today's call. Thank you so much for your participation. You may now disconnect.