So I would say the decline, if you look at the overall decline throughout the year, you had a lot of customers that may have signed annual deals in 2022. And it was the second half of 2022, really in Q3 when we started seeing some of the decline. So you didn't have a lot of folks, a lot of organizations sign up for annual deals going into Q4 of 2022. That's when the market started to send signals that it was slowing down. So that's probably one of the reasons why Q4 was a little bit higher. People that signed annual deals up to May, June, July, that expired. They were dealing with the macro. They pulled back. In terms of voluntary or involuntary, you got to understand, there's a couple of things. We're less than 1 year out from the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, and they are 100% focused on technology companies. So some of those companies went away. A lot of those companies are still in business but they are navigating through the environment, and they have to make sure they are managing their costs very closely. So if the market picks up, as we talked about, and the demand picks up, which it will, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, a lot of those companies will come back. Also, during the customer count, and I mentioned this earlier, you might have an organization that's spanning in North America, EMEA and APAC. And the APAC region may have cut back. And EMEA may have cut back but North America was still going. That would decrease our customer count based on those regionals that we treat as separate businesses because we're working on separate contracts and agreements. When the market comes back, you typically see that centralized budget plus back into the field. So that's the color I could give you. I can also tell you, if you look at the total customer count panel, the revenue, I think the overall revenue per customer was actually up slightly in 2023 versus 2022. And again, it's another sign. When we talked about it in November. We're saying no major surprises right now. And this is what we're seeing right now. We're navigating it. And we don't see things follow up, and we don't see big catalysts sprucing up right now and into the first half of 2024.