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Tetra Tech, Inc. (TTEK)

Q4 2016 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 10, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and thank you for joining the Tetra Tech Earnings Call. By now, you should have received a copy of the press release. If you have not, please contact the company's corporate office at 626-351-4664. With us today from management are Dan Batrack, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Steve Burdick, Chief Financial Officer. They will provide a brief overview of the results and we'll then open up the call for questions. During the course of the conference call, Tetra Tech management may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These include statements concerning future events and Tetra Tech's future financial performance. The statements are only predictions and may differ materially from actual future events or results. Tetra Tech's Form 10-K and 10-Q reports to the Securities and Exchange Commission identify certain risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. Tetra Tech undertakes no duty to update forward-looking statements. In addition, since management will be presenting some non-GAAP financial measures as references, the appropriate GAAP financial reconciliations are posted in the Investor Relations section of Tetra Tech's website. At this time, I would like to inform you that all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the request of the company, we will open the conference up for questions and answers after the presentation. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Dan Batrack. Please go ahead, Mr. Batrack.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you very much, Regina, and good morning and welcome to our Fourth Quarter of Fiscal Year 2016 Earnings Conference Call. Before I begin my presentation today, maybe some of you have noticed that we had our presidential election two days ago here in the United States. I will say here at our corporate offices, over the past 48 hours, I must have been asked about 100 times, how is this new change in administration going to affect us here at the company over the next year or even over the next four years, the entire term of the President-elect. Well, first of all, I noted to everyone and I'll share with you that it's very, very early in the transition process and, in fact, it hasn't even really started yet. But there are a few things that we have noted and I will share these with you. The President-elect has identified that investing in infrastructure is one of his most fundamental priorities. The President-elect has used numbers like $1 trillion that'll be spent on designing and building world-class infrastructure throughout the United States. And early reports after the election have indicated that the investment in infrastructure is something that both parties can agree upon right out of the gate. And we're really glad to see sort of bipartisan support for some of these agenda items. We do believe here at Tetra Tech, there are a few firms that are more capable or better positioned than Tetra Tech to support this national priority, especially in the areas of essential water infrastructure. Now, no doubt, as we see the new administration's programs develop and get implemented, we will provide you new updates as we identify new priorities and new implications to our businesses, and we'll include those in the quarterly calls…

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Dan. So, yeah, before presenting our financial results for the fourth quarter, I would like to point out that a full reconciliation of our ongoing operations, which Dan just talked about, to our GAAP financials, which I will now discuss, can be found in the appendix of this presentation, as well as our fourth quarter earnings release. Now, onto our GAAP results for the quarter. Gross revenue for the fourth quarter totaled $728.5 million compared to $578.4 million in the previous time period, which is up 26% year-over-year. We are pleased to report, and as Dan mentioned, that this quarter marks our highest quarterly revenue in the history of the company. Now net revenue also improved and totaled about $530.9 million, which is up 24% year-over-year. And excluding Coffey's contribution, we saw about a 7% organic net revenue growth for this quarter, primarily from our U.S. federal and municipal markets bids that Dan also talked about. So, turning to operating income, for the quarter, we generated $47.2 million in operating income, and this is an increase of about 16% over last year. Diluted earnings per share were about $0.53 for the fourth quarter, which is up 23% year-over-year. So on an ongoing basis, our diluted EPS totaled about $0.59, which is in line with our fourth quarter guidance of $0.55 to $0.60 per share that we announced last quarter. And our ongoing EPS excludes about $0.06 from charges associated with the integration of Coffey, as well as from RCM losses in the quarter. Now, the losses associated with RCM were nearly all related to legal fees and outstanding claims, and we do continue to anticipate the wind down of RCM will be substantially complete in fiscal 2017. However, due to the fixed price nature of the construction project…

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Great. Thank you very much, Steve. Overall, we completed our 2016 fiscal year with an absolutely excellent book of business, strength across multiple end markets and absolutely strong financial performance. We had record revenue and income in the fourth quarter, as Steve just recounted for us, including a 7% organic growth without the acquisition of Coffey, and with them, an overall growth of 28% from the same prior year. We remain here at Tetra Tech focused on high-end consulting and engineering that's providing us a very high value business, it's providing us a high margin business, and it clearly differentiates us in the marketplace. And one of the areas we've been focused on as a corporation is "leading with science," which emphasizes our innovation and investment in new emerging technologies, which is actually underpinning the growth of our business as we enter 2017. And we're developing completely new practices in the corporation in the areas of smart water infrastructure and data analytics that are integrating with new technologies that are giving us long-term growth that we're actually integrating with our practical experience in the industry. And today, we have a record backlog and a portfolio of $14 billion in contract capacity with major federal customers worldwide. And this is what's putting us as a corporation in the best position ever to capitalize on new investments and new program priorities for the clients that we're serving. Now, our outlook for fiscal year 2017 is for growth across all four of our end client sectors. And as I've gone over earlier, our fastest growing sector is with the United States state and local clients for municipal water and smart water services. And we expect this client to have growth rates between 7% to 12% during the year of 2017. We expect our…

Operator

Operator

The question-and-answer session will begin now. The first question comes from the line of Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Thank you very much. And, Dan and team, congratulations on a good quarter.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Tahira.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Dan, the first question is, as you said, your oil and gas book is largely shorter cycle. To the extent you see the new administration becoming a little more friendly, could your sort of current projections for fiscal year 2017 change to the positive rapidly enough to really provide upside to your guidance?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

That's a great question, Tahira. We did come into the year cautious with respect to our outlook on the oil and gas business. In fact, as I'd indicated, we expect another 20% reduction from 2016 into 2017. I will say that most of the reduction we expect to take place in the later second quarter and third quarter and fourth quarters, we actually have good backlog coming into the year. So we do have time for changes in the administrations permitting or other positions that they've taken with respect to midstream. Now, most of the work that we perform in oil and gas that's midstream is well over 80%. So, as permitting clarity or certainty with respect to pipelines moving forward gets clear, potentially with this new administration, we actually could see a pickup. We don't need a pickup in the first quarter or even second quarter in order to make a big difference for our oil and gas. It could drive our commercial work up significantly if that was actually authorized and we began work in the second-half of the year. And I would say most noteworthy is the margins that come in our oil and gas work are actually quite favorable with respect to our mix, and would actually help the overall forecasted margin for 2017 notably. So, I do think there's time for it to make a difference in 2017.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Got it. Okay. And, Dan, second question is the current – the new administration seems to be a little less friendly about climate change. I don't know whether that is actually going to have an impact on slowing climate change. So, could you talk a bit about the influence and the roles state, local and private funding are really playing, and really some of the environmental projects you're looking at going forward?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, it's a great question. There's a couple perceptions with the new administration and the new political party that's taking place. One of them is their focus on climate change or perhaps the lack thereof. Back in the Bush administration, going back a few administrations, the term climate change was not necessarily in vogue, and, in fact, in some instances, they preferred not to use that term. But they did use words such as infrastructure resiliency. They did talk about storm water protection. We did talk about actually coastal protection, sea walls, lochs, dams, and in fact, we saw more dollars spent during the Republic administration for coastal protection, particularly in the Gulf Coast, as a result of restoration for Katrina and other work than we did – than we really did for many, many years before that. So there may be different words used than climate change, but the fact is whether it's one administration or another or even an independent party, we've not seen that actually have any differences or impact on storms, floods or impacts to our infrastructure. That is actually a reality that takes place irrespective of an administration. So we do think that that's going to go well with respect to the funding, where is it coming from. A number of states with respect to "climate change," it's been manifested itself in renewable energy portfolio requirements, that is not a federal mandate, not at all. That's actually a state mandate. And renewable energy contributions, for instance, State of California, well over 20%, you can go all across the country, our state mandates, fundings and tax credits are taking place at that level, and are not necessarily directly impacted by what takes place at the federal. I know this is probably one step removed from the…

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst

Dan, that is very helpful. Quite a couple of more questions, but I'll hop back into the queue.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Great. Thank you, Tahira.

Operator

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Ryan Connors with Boenning & Scattergood. Please go ahead. Ryan Michael Connors - Boenning & Scattergood, Inc. (Broker): Great. Thank you, and good morning.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Good morning. Ryan Michael Connors - Boenning & Scattergood, Inc. (Broker): I appreciate your comments, very comprehensive and helpful. I wanted to talk a little bit about human resource utilization, specifically in the context of the margin outlook for the company. And I wonder if you can give us kind of an overview of where you stand here at the end of your fiscal year on your broad labor utilization picture and specifically where you see that trending from here, and what the different margin scenarios are in terms of margin leverage as your utilization rate improves going forward.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, that's a good question. In a professional services business sector, which we're in, labor is the largest cost by far. There is nothing even close to that, even second is facilities or offices and that stays a far distant second. The single – since most of our work is time and materials were cost plus, utilization is the biggest driver. Now at the margins that we've been generating sort of at a 11%, 12% EBITDA, we – as a all-in number, I sometimes hesitate to use this number because there is so many different interpretations or calculations of this, but as we calculate utilization, it's the entire corporation's labor base, in other words, payroll. And that includes Steve Burdick, myself, the receptionist at the desk, if you take the entire labor of the entire company as the denominator, and the numerator are the dollars that are billed to clients. That's our utilization. Similar to our backlog, I find few that actually do it that way. I know this is certainly a disclaimer before I answer your question because I know that it's ours, is one, which, of course, is not representative because an expensive person has much bigger impact than a less expensive fields person. It could be of available hours. That's not – we count everything, holidays. With that said, our utilization as a company is right around 70% – 69% to 70%, that typically generates about a 12% EBITDA margin. Some have asked the question in professional services that you don't have leverage like you might in the manufacturing operation. That's not correct, we do have leverage. We can actually drive our utilization up to probably the mid to upper 70%s. At that time, we hit sort of a theoretical maximum when you add in holidays and…

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

They're pretty much the same. The fact is that it can be a bit different on the construction side. What a P3 is, public-private partnerships typically have a turnkey designer, constructor and funding providers, so that's the three pieces of the public-private partnership. Typically, we will work closer with the constructor than we would with a federal client, but the work that we would do with respect to design optimization is identical. And I will say that in the U.S., three Ps or the public funding of these projects is significantly less because in many states across the country, it's actually prohibited. They do not allow private investment into these. One area that Tetra Tech is quite large, we have about 4,000 staff and are performing many of these projects are in Canada. So, as a company, I would say we're one of the most experienced consulting engineers in the entire industry with respect to performing these work. We know how to do it, we are doing it, but we're doing it mostly in a legal jurisdiction outside the U.S. And so – and the work we're focused on is on the design and support of the constructors all the way through. And for those constructors on the phone, we can provide the best, cheapest, most effective design to allow you to complete your construction below your price target. And so, we're their best partner. Ryan Michael Connors - Boenning & Scattergood, Inc. (Broker): Got it, got it. Okay. Well, that's really helpful. Thanks, Dan.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thanks a lot, Ryan.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Noelle Dilts with Stifel. Please go ahead. Noelle Dilts - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.: Hi, guys, and congratulations on a good quarter.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Noelle. Noelle Dilts - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.: My first question, I just wanted to talk a little bit about timing here. I know you kind of approach this with, I think, to hear a question earlier. But just given that Trump's plans are so big and the details are pretty scant, I mean, are you at all concerned that we could see a little bit of a freeze here in terms of some spending before some of the spending starts to come into the market and maybe some of these bigger projects start? Just curious to know how you're thinking about that.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

You know, I have read that. I actually think that – I don't see that. A lot of the work that we have are not – we're not anticipating it or counting it that's in our contract capacity of the $14 billion, we're actually counting it from the $2.4 billion, which is already authorized, and we're in the field working right now. So, we think we've got enough visibility to make it right through any type of transition period where they're going to work out how this goes. A lot of it's actually in state and local work and commercial, which is actually detached from the federal activity. And finally, there certainly could be a phenomena or a reality of this is the end of an administration, I'd like to get as many projects as I have under my direction and my vision put in place right now. So, here's more and get going. So, certainly, that's – it actually could be – these other items could offset this concern on this delay that you've just talked about. Noelle Dilts - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.: Okay. And then sorry if I missed this, but did you talk about your WEI and Army margin expectations as we head into 2017? Can you just give us some thoughts there? And also maybe talk a little bit about how you're thinking about the margin trend through the year.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yes. We're – if you actually take a look at our actual results for 2016 and you compare that to the midpoint of our 2017 guidance, we're actually up about 50 basis points. Now – both at the EBIT and EBITDA line. I would say that, I think that's normally a 50-point basis increase year-over-year with the markets we're heading into, is okay. I know we can do better, but part of the headwinds that we have that's tempering the margin expansion has been the reduction in the oil and gas business. So, we've saw a roughly 20% during 2016 reduction. We forecast for a similar number in 2017. And so, when you think about the expansion of margin given even the reduction in the oil and gas, it's actually not bad. So, – and that also includes the incorporation of Coffey into it. And Coffey is a lower margin business. We will be bringing it up, as I'd mentioned, in 2017, and I believe they'd be actually at our margin profile by 2018. So, 50 basis points by taking on Coffey, which is lower business, and a reduced oil and gas, and still seeing a 50 basis point increase is not bad. And I do think there's upside from there. Noelle Dilts - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.: Okay. And then last, if I may. Can you just give us some thoughts on when you think the Canadian infrastructure stimulus spending could start to come through and then help out that side of the business a little bit?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, I think orders – we could see the orders come here in the first quarter between now and the end of the calendar year, but I think they'd be small, quite small. I think what we will do is report out to our shareholders either qualitatively with some data support on our quarterly calls, or if they're anything of size, we'll press release it if it's any significance. But the orders will be a precursor to it showing up in revenue. But I don't think actually from a revenue standpoint at, say, Q1. It's probably mid to late 2017. Noelle Dilts - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.: Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Noelle.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bobby Burleson with Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Robert Joseph Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Good morning. Congratulations.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Bobby.

Robert Joseph Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Please go ahead.

I think – just a couple here. Curious about – and we've heard from some other guys that infrastructure or kind of large civil projects in the UK, they're seeing some push outs there because of Brexit. I'm wondering what the dynamic might be for UK-AID kind of projects, whether or not you expect those to be intact and kind of immune to what we're seeing with some of the infrastructure activity.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

That's a good question. First, UK – the United Kingdom's budget is set at 0.8% of GDP for funding of their international development work or DFID work. So they have been – had just gotten close to that percentage. So, you'd seen those budgets grow because they haven't fully obtained the 0.8% that's actually mandated in their allocations. And second, it's for working being done internationally or outside the country of the UK. And so, we haven't seen a negative impact. But I'll also make a comment that of the three major international development agencies that we support, USAID, Australian Aid or DFAT or UK-AID, UK is by far the smallest. So, the amount of impact that we would see even if there was an impact would be very de minimis, I'm not sure we had noticed it. And we're really focused on adding new services that we provide for the other agencies into the UK. And that I would say that it's really our objective that even if it were a flat to a challenged market, we would be adding so many more services. We're actually looking to participate, if not take market share, in the UK. So...

Robert Joseph Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Okay. Great. Thanks.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

...I think that should be a net upside.

Robert Joseph Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Please go ahead.

And then you also measured – mentioned that there is a sizable state and local impact driving things like infrastructure spending on water and things like that. Wondering if there are any specific measures that you've been tracking that may have passed recently or that you think are pretty relevant for you guys in terms of that TAM for you in 2017.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yeah, Bobby, that's a great question. While there were a lot of different moving pieces with respect to political parties, we did see Proposition M is in – in California, which addressed water infrastructure. It really added more dollars to Proposition 1, which was part of the $8 billion. It supported a lot – the large population in state, which is the Los Angeles River water we use, so this is additional funding. This is areas that we work. Our headquarters happens to be here in Los Angeles and some of our largest staffing concentrations. So, California had a number of bonds and tax increases associated with earmarks for water and infrastructure projects, and we actually saw that at different levels of really, all across the country. So, it was actually quite favorable on that front, which I'm not saying that it's – I want to make clear, I'm not saying that that's going to be an incremental significant increase, but at a 30% organic growth year-over-year, I think it portends well for us to continue double digit organic growth rates in the state and local business.

Robert Joseph Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Okay. Great. And I am sorry if I missed this, but what was the – you mentioned that oil and gas has a higher margin relative to your corporate average. Wondering kind of what the delta is if that business does pick up, what the EBITDA margin could be.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, it could raise the company's – depending on the amount of revenue that's associated with it, it could raise it by 100 basis points to 200 basis points of the overall company's performance.

Robert Joseph Burleson - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks a lot.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Great. Thank you, Bobby.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tate Sullivan with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Tate Sullivan - Sidoti & Co. LLC: Thank you. And following up a bit on state and local spending with a great 30% year-over-year growth rate in the last quarter. But going forward, I mean, given – I mean, I imagine you have good visibility on water utility spending and muni spending trends. What were some of the considerations that led you to expect a lower 7% to 12% growth rate from 4Q? I mean, certainly, 30% is a very high growth rate, but how did you come up with the 7% to 12% range, please?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yeah. That's a good question, Tate. Well, a couple of things happened in the fourth quarter. Number one is we started up quite a few new programs. So, when you start up a brand new program, it's a little bit lumpy in a good way, meaning you have initial mobilization. You have a big initial push with respect to work plans, our conceptualization charrettes, a lot of things that drive it higher. Year-on-year comp was actually a little bit more favorable in the fourth quarter. So, I did want to temper for those modelers on the phone or that follow us plugging in a 30% number. We do think that a sustainable basis, when we've actually mapped out our spend from these new projects that we're starting, that do put us into double-digit growth. But really, hate to use the word aberration, but it was a strong quarter because of start up of a lot of new projects on the water infrastructure side. Tate Sullivan - Sidoti & Co. LLC: Okay. Thank you. And then on – I've noticed quarter-over-quarter employee growth up about 800 employees. Can you comment on where you added employees, what divisions or regions?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, the one thing that's – so when you just talk about quarter-over-quarter or sequentially, the fourth quarter is always higher because of summer work. Tate Sullivan - Sidoti & Co. LLC: Okay.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

So I'll say there's two things that drove work, one is just a annual seasonality. So, in the summer, we have more people out in the field in Canada. We have more surveyors. We're doing more sampling. So, that accounts for probably half or a little more of that number. But the other half actually was in response to some of the very significant storms along the East Coast. We do have a large – in fact, we think at the municipal, we have the broadest contract base of municipalities, about four – contracts with 400 municipalities across the country to provide emergency and expedited response with respect to engineering evaluation, and expedited response of bringing water treatment plants back online, identification of difficulties with waste water treatment, how you keep the overflow of different sewers and materials from impacting rivers and surface waters and the like, and so we had quite a significant addition in the fourth quarter for this type of rapid response in the South East of the U.S. because of these storm events. Tate Sullivan - Sidoti & Co. LLC: Okay. Thank you very much.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Great. Thanks, Tate.

Operator

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Ryan Cassil with Seaport Global Securities. Please go ahead.

Ryan Curtis Cassil - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Hey, good morning. Nice quarter.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Ryan.

Ryan Curtis Cassil - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

I wanted to just continue on the state and local side in the U.S. Presumably, you're seeing a lot of demand from the West Coast and perhaps the South East. Are you seeing a continuation as you look out to next year from those areas or is new opportunities and greater demand in new regions that are going to continue to drive that growth for you?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, we've seen the biggest funding sources and the – actually, where we've been winning the most contracts and putting people to work are Florida, has been significant for us. Texas has been significant. So, Florida has been driven by not so much water quantity, but mostly water quality. So desalination membrane work, this is where we're a market leader. So, that's gone quite well for us. Texas, which is both water quality in the East, where you get raining in Houston, and water supply, meaning it's too dry in the West, which is the Midland area. So, that's been – Texas has been quite strong for us. California, drought. I will tell you, drought is the issue. It's everything from water reuse to desalination, and storm water capture is a big issue here. The cheapest water is that, that you can catch that falls down the mountains and you can prevent from flowing to the sea. And, by the way, it's not just capturing it for water use. It's also a huge water quality improvement when you actually prevent the sediments and other contaminants from flowing directly to seas. So, it's a multi-beneficial approach capturing storm water. So, our big three are California, Texas and Florida. But I would say collectively, they represent less than half because the rest of the country has been quite strong also. We've had excellent winds up in the northwest of the West Coast, up in the State of Washington. We've had some good new programs in New York and other programs. So, I don't want to slight the other locations around the country for the big three in the South, but if you had to pick what's really driving it, those are the most significant.

Ryan Curtis Cassil - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Okay. And, do you feel like the recent changes in the administration and some of the demand dynamics at the municipal level, do you feel like spending is just being accelerated here or perhaps does this have a longer tail on it than maybe you previously expected just based on what we've heard so far at the election?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, with respect to the state and local, is that the question?

Ryan Curtis Cassil - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Yeah, with state and local, and then at the federal level as well, just on infrastructure spending.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

No, I think that the – I'll start with state and local, and then I think it's similar at the federal level. But I think state and local was really a catch-up or a makeup for a under spend during the early portions of the financial recession back in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012. I think that this is a lot of new work that needs to be done, financial tax receipts from low run employment, higher property taxes gives them a better amount to spend. They've actually put bonds out that have been accepted by their voters, so that gives it better. So I think this is unrelated to the administration at the federal level. So I see very little connection to those two. At the federal level with respect to budgets being spent out of these, I think that's another one that's been quite slow. I think this is actually the federal government getting closer back to normal with what we'd seen prior to some of these contentious issues with – between the house and the executive branch and others. So I don't see this as a particularly high point. In fact, I'd say, if anything, this is just beginning to get back toward what we'd expect on a normal basis on infrastructure. So, I – we'll see. As I said, it's very, very early. We'll see what the priorities are, but this is not necessarily a high point on the federal side.

Ryan Curtis Cassil - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Got it. And then the last one for me. Are you having to prioritize projects more now? And I guess it really relates to, does it do anything for you on pricing if you are having to really prioritize with customers?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

No. We have not prioritized one customer base over another. We are organized along clients or market sets with respect to clients, and every single client we have, we give it the best resources we have in the entire corporation. A oil and gas engineer, maybe the best in class, but their availability does not necessarily impact whether or not we're building a dam or a flood control structure, it's a different expertise. So we think we have the best engineers, the most technically advanced solutions, and we wouldn't put one client over or beneath another.

Ryan Curtis Cassil - Seaport Global Securities LLC

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of John Rogers with D. A. Davidson. Please go ahead. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Hi, good morning.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Hi, John. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Did – a couple of follow-up things. One, in terms of the coal ash work, and we're talking about over the last couple of years, are – is there any significant work that you're doing or expecting to do in 2017?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yeah, that's a really good question, John. We have held this out as a growth market for us. It has been a relatively small revenue stream for us, and we've actually included a relatively small contribution in 2017. We have seen the utilities push back with respect to timing of implementation. So, some have actually filed lawsuits and taken legal avenues, others have looked for ways to file for extensions, so it hasn't developed as quick as the regulations would have portended. So it is not a significant driver for us in our forecast in 2017. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Okay, good. So any further delays didn't have any real impact? I mean...

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

I don't think so. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Yeah, good. And then, just on the cash flow and acquisitions for a second, what are you seeing out there, Dan, in terms of opportunities? And now that you've gotten Coffey successfully integrated, are you prepared to take on another one of that size? And I guess are there opportunities and maybe talk a little bit about priorities there?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yeah, there – absolutely. And I want to say that the Coffey acquisition or merger really went quite well. And I would give it – attribute to an absolutely strong management, that team they have within that entity and it being complementary to us. So, I think that's done quite well. It was around 3,000 people. It did take us – we're right around nine months now, that's gone quite well. Both financially and from a resources that we have in the company, we're ready for another one of that size or even larger. So, yes, we have the management capacity and the ability to take on something that without any problem. Now, financially, you can see we've – as from Steve Burdick's presentation, we've gone under a leverage under 1%, so we're at 0.9% and dropping, and it's not our objective to be in that level. We do want to get our leverage back up between 1% and 2%. Now, we do have a buyback that's been reauthorized for shares, but I would prefer to actually put it into growth into the marketplace that will make us more competitive. We're not looking to be bigger, we're actually looking to be better. And so we do want to acquire, and we've been looking for the right fit for technology, intellectual prop – that own IP or intellectual property on smart water, it is a priority of ours. We do want to be not only a market leader, but a market maker. We want to actually demonstrate we can save our clients money in the long-term, and give them a better product for less money, not the same product, a better product. And so we are looking for data analytics firms, we're looking for folks that have written software that is proprietary to actually manage very complicated sensor arrays, so that's one area. I will say folks think that we have very lofty expectations in that area, but we will remain disciplined. Our acquisitions are expected to be accretive in the first year. And the second area, some of our clients have begun to take us to Europe. Now we have many project offices in Europe, we have a presence in the UK because of Coffey. It does look attractive with respect to opportunities there technically, and I'd tell you the exchange rates don't hurt us at all right now at all either. So, really quite favorable over a multi-year – if you take a multi-year perspective on it. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Okay. Thank you. And just, I guess, one follow-up for maybe Steve. Capital spending, maintenance capital spending this year...

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yeah. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: ...it dropped down in 2016. I mean, what should we be thinking about?

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Yes. I think what you see is as we've gotten out of fixed price construction, our capital spending has come down quite substantially from, I guess, our historical 1% of revenue. So, this year and going forward, we'd expect to pay less than that, that historical 1% of revenue on CapEx. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Okay. So, closer to what we saw in 2016, is that what you're saying?

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

No, I think 2016 was probably a bit low just because of the business cycle. So looking forward to next year or at 2017, we're probably looking to spend about $15 million to $20 million on CapEx. John Bergstrom Rogers - D.A. Davidson & Co.: Right. Thank you very much. Congratulations on the quarter and year.

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thanks.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Thank you, John.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tahira Afzal with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Hi, folks. So, just a quick follow-up on the amortization. Obviously, it jumps up a bit, but as we look into 2018, as of right now, what does the schedule look like?

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

So, in a – yeah, so if we look at 2017, our intangible amortization is about $0.26 per share. This year, it was $0.25. And going into 2018, because of the drop-off from the acquisitions, we're looking at about $0.16.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. So, your numbers jump up a lot, assuming no acquisitions.

Steven M. Burdick - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Our EPS would jump up quite a bit with no further acquisitions, you're right.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Okay. Great. And last question, really backlog related, obviously, we've seen where you got – sorry, very good organic growth this year, and it seems the backlog supports that for next year. How should we think of backlog? Do you think you're still in a position to organically grow it?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

I do think so, Tahira. I think the focus that we have is not only to continue to win new programs in the marketplace and be competitive, preferably in areas that are sort of rising tides where they don't exist, so there is no incumbents to have to displace. It's actually to take new work to help our clients' new priorities. But we really have a big focus on converting some of that $14 billion of existing contract capacity into orders, which then you would see in backlog. And we didn't fully note it on our backlog, that slide that was included in today's presentation, but many of those awards are actually single awards. Those are awards that were made just to Tetra Tech. And so these are not IDIQs or multiple awards that will compete with other firms. These are actually contracts that will convert to orders and backlog as we actually perform this work for these clients. And they include work for Department of Energy, they include single awards from the U.S. Navy, many of them from International Development. And so we do find that this is actually in the longer-term, more efficient for our clients because they can get to the work quicker, faster and not have to go through this very long, complicated process of evaluating different approaches and different items. So we think when they've picked the right contractor, they can get their work done more efficiently on a faster timeframe and, as we believe, even at a lower price point. So – and many of those awards at a contract basis are listed on that sheet, which gives us good insight into growing the backlog in 2017 organically.

Tahira Afzal - KeyBanc Capital Markets, Inc.

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Got it. Thank you very much.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Great. Thank you very much, Tahira.

Operator

Operator

Our final question will come from the line of Tate Sullivan with Sidoti. Please go ahead. Tate Sullivan - Sidoti & Co. LLC: Oh, thank you very much for taking my follow – real quick follow-up on your commercial business being 29% of net revenue, and on your slide 7, you have various commercial projects of $300 million. Can you give us a sample, ex oil and gas, what you're working on in the – your commercial side?

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Oh, commercial is very broad. So, we're working with industrial clients that range everything from standard manufacturers of different raw products to the automobile industry to the aerospace industry to steel, so that would be what I'd call general industrials, actually, we work for. What we do for them is we do environmental cleanup. We also do water supply and processing and reuse for those. So, it's actually on the process side, that makes that part of the work. We do work for commercial utilities where we actually do permitting work, we do waste management work. We do work for the large waste management companies, the largest in the U.S., where we actually design and optimize existing landfills. So, we'll do landfill gas collection. We'll do design of the new cells, that's on the commercial side. Oil and gas, of course, would be under our U.S. commercial, which is mostly midstream, almost entirely midstream, that would be under commercial. And we do a bit of work on, what I would call brownfield where the commercial clients own contaminated real estate in urban settings, where the value is – where the driver is partially regulatory, in other words, you have to clean up contamination, that's part of it. But the other part is really in this resurgence of the economy, is turning unused property into economic generation. In other words, redeveloping property for malls and buildings and other beneficial use. And that's a big driver in the urban setting, and those are commercial clients also. So, that's sort of an example of the type of work we're doing, and it's not just in one geographic area, it's actually spread across this entire country. We have over 250 offices here in the United States alone, and we are local to all of these clients. And so we're a local solution for them with a national capability. We'll go back to our centers of excellence to bring the absolute best technology, best experts, but it's delivered locally for them. So that's what's driving our commercial work. Tate Sullivan - Sidoti & Co. LLC: Okay. Thank you for that and have a great rest of the day. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This will conclude the Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Dan Batrack to conclude.

Dan L. Batrack - Tetra Tech, Inc.

Management

Well, I want to thank every one of you that were on the call today, especially those that asked questions, they were insightful, they were really good questions. I hope to have more insight and personal observations from the ground level on projects and what we see is part of this transition with the administration. We will report the results of our first quarter almost concurrently with the transition to the new administration here in the U.S., so I think a lot of it will be speculative as to what will change. But we will share our insights on this next call. And thank you very much for your interest in Tetra Tech, and I'll talk to you in January. Bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our conference for today. Thank you, all, for joining and have a nice day. All parties may now disconnect.