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TSS, Inc. (TSSI)

Q2 2019 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 14, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the TSS Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. My name is Hilda, and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Mr. John Penver. Mr. Penver, you may begin.

John Penver

Analyst

Thank you, Hilda. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us on TSS conference call to discuss our second quarter 2019 financial results. I'm John Penver, the Chief Financial Officer of TSS. Joining me on the call today is Anthony Angelini, the President and the Chief Executive Officer of TSS. As we begin the call, I would like to remind everyone to take note of the cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements contained in the press release that we issued today. That same language applies to comments and statements made on today's conference call. So this call will contain time sensitive information as well as forward-looking statements, which are accurate as of today, August 14, 2019. TSS expressly disclaims any obligations to update, amend, supplement or otherwise review any information or forward-looking statements made under this conference call or the reply to reflect events or circumstances that may arise after this date indicated except as otherwise required by applicable law. For a list of the risks and uncertainties, which may affect future performance, please refer to the company's periodic filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In addition, we will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of the differences between these measures with the most directly comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP is included in today's press release. So I will begin the call with a review of the second quarter results and then turn the call to Anthony for his comments on the business and the changes that we see coming. So earlier this afternoon, we released a press release announcing our financial results for the second quarter of 2019, and a copy of that release is available on our website at www.tssiusa.com. Now our second quarter results were lower in both revenue…

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

Right. Thank you, John. While the second quarter was a transitional quarter in our much larger journey, we are excited about the developments that are happening within the business. Before I get to that, I'll discuss the current quarter. We have some projects that were postponed and as you know, we provide services in a channel manner. So therefore there are some changes in timing and scope within a large end user that affected us in the quarter, moved out about a $1 million out to sometime in the future. Despite these events, we were -- that were mostly beyond our control, we were pleased that we were able to still achieve positive adjusted EBITDA for the 13th straight quarter despite lower revenue levels. The EBITDA result reflects the efforts we've made over the last several years to lower the breakeven point for the company. We have adjusted our level of overhead and fixed costs, so that we can remain profitable at lower levels. This also has the added benefit of flow through, so that as we add revenue in a period, the incremental profit from those revenues will drop through to the bottom-line. I am excited to tell you that we have some additional programs beginning in the third quarter. As I discuss them, I want to point out some additional information about our business that is not always obvious. Currently, the majority of our services are provided as a value-add on consigned material. We are now engaged in some programs that have us perform as a reseller of sorts. We only engage in these when there is virtually no risk as we have a delivery order in hand. In these cases, we'll procure and resell the actual hardware, software or professional services. The low, but profitable markup of…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] We have Maj Soueidan from GeoInvesting.

Maj Soueidan

Analyst

Hello, Anthony.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

Hi.

Maj Souiedan

Analyst

I have a question here, so it seems like you're exploring some more organic opportunities. I'm wondering if you can discuss what that means to your efforts to diversify your customer concentration and will distract you from any your pursuit of inorganic opportunities moving forward.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

Yeah. Well, so I’ll position things a couple ways. One is pedals to the metal on our organic opportunities. We think that there's enough runway and a lot of opportunity even within our core customer to drive significant growth in the business. So job one is harvest and manage that. We are looking at other opportunities to supplement and do things in organically. So, we'll continue to focus on that. The beauty of some of the programs that we just pulled in is that it keep -- puts us in a relationship with other third-party hardware and software providers. So, that gives us an initial contract relationship, which is always the toughest piece to get from a new customer diversification standpoint. So, it gives us an initial run into that company, because now we have an agreement to do business together, which is -- when you're out prospecting in our space, it's always trying to get that initial deal and get a contract in place. So, we feel very positive about where we are and we think we're putting our resources and efforts in the near term and the places that are going to give us the biggest bang for the buck.

Maj Soueidan

Analyst

Great, great. And now one more question and I’ll let you go. Are you seeing any positive or negative change in the industry outlook that we need to be aware of, anything in sense to status quo since we’ve talk about.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

There is here. So, first off our largest customer had -- so, as you talk about things going on in China and supply chains and everything else, it is having an impact, particularly around the timing of -- getting material what -- how the supply chains, cycles, et cetera. But we're fortunate. Our largest customer has a lot of diverse or distributed relationships throughout the world. So, their ability to source and deliver with the China man if you will or the China tariff is pretty good. So we -- others -- we're going to have some timing issues where there's some disequilibrium in the market, but for the most part, we're seeing that our size and we're facing with our customer that -- our largest customer that, they get that - the demand is -- it's coming in waves, it's strong.

Maj Souiedan

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

All right. Thanks, Maj.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Yaron Naymark from 1 Main Capital.

Yaron Naymark

Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for the color. Just two questions on my end. One, I guess, appreciate the comment on project delays, China related and just, I guess, sounds like economically related. But you have visibility into your market share. And, I guess, how that's trending relative to the broader industry, I guess, it's kind of similar to the last question, just a little bit of a different way to ask it.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

So we play in a few different markets. So wanted to -- like, as an example, in the modular space and modular services in the field, we feel like we're a pretty strong network, got a pretty high market share, guys that are maintaining an installed base of modular centers in the field. On the integration side, that business which we monitor, it's got -- we're a very, very small piece of a very large pie. And in particular, when we're only doing and providing services, right. So our service revenue might look low, but we're really, like we mentioned, handling a $1 billion worth of material. So, if you think about what we're doing. And you kind of say, okay, these guys are taking in a $1 billion worth of stuff. That kind of sits where we are in the market, as you know, it's a much, much, much larger, multi-billion-dollar market opportunity. So, we feel like we're just scratching the surface. But through the reorganization of the business that we've done over the last couple of years, we feel like we've now got ourselves a position in a better pure play, to take advantage of that integration business and the opportunities that are in front of us, to capture more of that total available market. Yes, and we're tiny.

Yaron Naymark

Analyst

So its sounds like the project delays, it's not like you lost any project that you were expecting to win or anything like that. It's purely just timing, timing related.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

Yes. There's timing. And then there was some that -- there's -- so part of the business that we lost was a -- not lost but got delayed, basically about a year, is some of the work we do around our installed base of modular data centers. And at time -- points in time those require kind of refreshes. Think about it, your 100,000 mile maintenance on your car. So some of that got delayed 120,000 miles, let's call it. So, where that was part of what -- it would hit us at the end of the year as some of those contracts were renewed. We also delayed some of what we call a refresh of the hardware in the field.

Yaron Naymark

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Helpful. And the same question I had was, did I hear correctly, as you said for the year, you expect to do about $2 million of the EBITDA and $1 million of net income?

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

That's what we said.

Yaron Naymark

Analyst

Got it. So that implies a pretty meaningful step up in the back half, is that just the new organic growth opportunities you referenced in the call? Or is that just some of the delays getting pushed into two-half. Either you have more visibility on, or it's all of the above?

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

I'm sorry. Say that last part again.

Yaron Naymark

Analyst

I guess what the biggest driver of the step up from, one-half to two-half. Is it just the push, the project delays that got pushed from the first half into the second half? Or is it the organic new revenue opportunities you referenced on the call?

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

It's both. So, that's some of what we felt the effect of in the second quarter was some of the timing of some things. Those are playing themselves out over in the third and fourth quarters. So there's just kind of roll over. Right? We're never going to get this quarterly thing perfect, right. We all agree with that. As with the trends like -- so really -- so is the trend in the right direction and I think that's what you're trying to ask. So in our core business, one of our goals has been to add new programs and to get our revenue level back up -- our revenue and margin level back up to where they were last year, right. So we're effectively growing that business. What percent is that John, $4 million of growth rate to get to $22 million?

John Penver

Analyst

Yeah, that would have been about a 20%, 23%.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

So we see that business still growing at roughly 20%, plus on top of it now we're adding these new programs. So these new programs drive -- and by the way we're sitting here in the middle of October -- August. So understand that we're halfway through the quarter. We understand what we've got to put. And this is a question of timing of delivery at the end of the quarter that's sort of why we gave you guidance for the back half of the year, because the whether – all these happens in the third quarter or it happens between September, October, November, we feel like we're going be at that $25 million to $30 million in revenue by the end of the year.

Yaron Naymark

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Very helpful. That’s all I had. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Mr. Penver for final remarks.

Anthony Angelini

Analyst

Okay. I'll take over for John, of course. So thank you all for attending the call. We really look forward to the developments that are going on in our business and we think this is a game changer. So stay tuned and we look forward to updating you on the results as we get into the fall season. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.