Sean Nolan
Analyst · Truist Securities.
Okay. Let me ask, is Suku on the call. All right. Well, then I'm going to do my best while we deal with this. So to answer your first question about the biomarkers, I know that there is no direct way to measure, as an example, what's happening with the levels of MECP2 because it's not freely able to be captured. So you would ultimately -- you'd be in a very negative situation like looking at autopsy and doing biopsies and things like that to really determine that.
So at this point in time, there are no real biomarkers that we're aware of that would allow you to capture the activity that you're seeing in MECP2, so it really would be the manifestations clinically. And what types of improvements are you seeing there? As it relates to is this real, I understand the perspective of the one patient. And look, we caveated that as well. I think what what's so dramatic about this is that when you talk to the KOLs and the people that treat Rett patients on a daily basis, stage IV is exceptionally severe. I mean, Suku did a good job painting the picture of the patient, but essentially envisions somebody that for a decade at least has been unable to sit unassisted, has been in a wheelchair, has to wear a back brace to have some semblance of the ability to hold themselves upright. They have to be supported when they're sitting to look around the room, very, very poor muscle tone, very hard to hold the head up, very hard to track, unable to hold objects in their hand.
And I would just say, based on the video that I've seen is that very, very quiet, very kind of much within herself, I would say. In terms of vocalization and communications, just very, very quiet, very placid. And then after treatment, again, the physician reported, and we've seen the video where she can she can -- you put her into a sitting position and she can sit there for 3 to 5 minutes. So that's Suku was here, he'd say that's demonstration of axial strength. She's getting muscle tone back into like her limb-girdle region, if you will, and it has a strength to do that, much more movement in coordination of the upper extremities and beginning to see something -- some activity in the legs.
Suku, good to have you back on board. I've been doing my best to paint the picture of the patient. So Suku, maybe you should take it from here. But the question was really around, is this effect real? Is there a lot of heterogeneity in these patients and maybe they have periods where they're very, very difficult. They're very severe and their symptoms of them, they get better. I tried to paint the picture of what she looked like before and after, but I think the folks would appreciate hearing it from an MD more than myself.