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trivago N.V. (TRVG)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Wed, May 1, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the trivago Q1 Earnings Call 2024. [Operator Instructions] I must advise you the call is being recorded today, Wednesday, the 1st of May 2024. We are pleased to be joined on the call today by Johannes Thomas, trivago's CEO Managing Director; and Robin Harries, trivago's CFO and Managing Director; temporarily designated by trivago's Supervisory Board, pending shareholders' confirmation. The following discussion includes responses to your questions reflect management's views as of today, Wednesday, May 1, 2024, only. Trivago does not undertake any obligation to update or revise this information. As always, some of the statements made on today's call are forward-looking, typically preceded by words such as we expect, we believe, we anticipate or similar statements. Please refer to the Q1 2024 operating and financial review and trivago's other filings with the SEC for information about factors which could cause trivago's actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. You will find reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures discussed today in trivago's operating and financial review, which is posted on trivago's Investor Relations website at ir.trivago.com. You are encouraged to periodically visit trivago's Investor Relations website for important content. Finally, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons on this call will be against results for the comparable period of 2023. With that, let me turn the call over to Johannes.

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our Q1 2024 earnings call. To begin, I want to reflect on the journey with embarked on last year. In May 2023, the new leadership team and I took the helm. In the quarter, when we arrived at trivago, we have encountered a business that was declining at a double-digit pace year-over-year. We experienced the aftermath of several years of rather low brand investment, while simultaneously dealing with the substantial changes Google began making to their search results and ad formats. At the same time, we were thrilled to observe the enduring appeal and relevance of our matter proposition. Our data indicated an increase in the rate disparity since the pandemic, which has increased the value of price comparison. In addition, our research shows that trivago retained a significant global footprint as 1 of the most recognized global travel brands. And notably, we saw the company's highly capable team and unique culture as a competitive edge in a rapidly changing environment that is being disrupted by technology and IR. Our belief in these invaluable assets has only grown stronger since then. We are committed to learn and execute at an unrivaled pace. We have stated our intentions to revitalize our brand and improve our core products with the goal of returning to growth in the near future. We are making long-term oriented decisions to increase our branded visitor baseline, which we expect to yield long-term compounding effects. We have been diligently laying the foundation of our plans, and we believe these efforts will bear fruit throughout the remainder of 2024 and beyond. The addition of Robin to our team as of April 1 is a key milestone. Robin's wealth of expertise and experience enhances our collect division. We're delighted to welcome him back…

Robin Harries

Analyst

Thank you, Johannes. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our first quarter earnings call. It feels very good to return to trivago after nearly 6 years. I would like to express my gratitude to our Interim CFO, Kevin Hu, and the entire team for their outstanding work during the transition and onboarding process as well as Johannes, Jasmine and Andrej who laid the foundation for strategic initiatives over the last couple of months. I can say that I joined a highly energized team that wants to win. My return alongside Johannes, Jasmine and Andrej underscores our belief in the tremendous opportunity we see to create value for our users, partners and shareholders. Today, our market cap is below $200 million despite having over EUR 100 million in cash, generating EUR 485 million in revenues, and EUR 54 million in adjusted EBITDA in 2023. Our valuation today is significantly lower than in 2012 when I first joined trivago. We see tremendous upside potential. Trivago still stands as 1 of the world's foremost travel brands operating across 53 local websites and apps in key global markets. Our product value proposition remains highly relevant, scaling up brand marketing worked well for us in the past. And we already see successes from the initial campaign started at the end of 2023. We believe that our winning formula still works and remain confident in our ability to progress step by step towards renewed growth on the horizon. Now I would like to discuss our performance in Q1. I will start with a review of our results as well as provide an update on our outlook for the remainder of 2024. All comparisons for 2024 are on a year-over-year basis, unless otherwise stated. During the first quarter of 2024, we achieved total revenues of EUR 101.4…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Naved Khan of B. Riley Securities.

Naved Khan

Analyst

A couple of questions from me. Maybe just from the -- on the weakness in the performance channel. I mean we have seen some weakness even in the prior quarters. Did any changes related to the implementation of DMA, have any additional impact in March? And can you maybe just talk about the travel demand broadly across different regions? Did you see any changes on that front?

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

Thank you for the question, Naved. This is Johannes. I think on the first quarter in terms of performance marketing, there was weakness starting second half of the year already where Google gradually did changes to their search results and tested new ad formats and that has gradually increased over time in Q1 from what we observed the visibility of the new ad formats, PPA, especially in Europe. In the U.S., our observation is PPA and GHA being more visible, has increased in Q1, which we think is probably part of the DMA adjustments. So it basically has increased in visibility. We are participating in these formats, though we are very focused on brands we see opportunistically where we are joining and what makes sense for us. We are seeing not the performance we would appreciate from a conversion perspective and also we lack in optimization levers that would help us optimize these ads effectively. And I think that's the performance marketing perspective. Robin, can you comment on demand?

Robin Harries

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question. Regarding demand. So we see a robust demand, so it remains strong. It's rather increasing. So on that side, it looks quite good.

Naved Khan

Analyst

Okay. Great. Maybe just a related follow-up on your answer to the headwinds and performance. So what gives you the confidence that you can see positive growth in the back half, given these headwinds are continuing in the third channel?

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

We are seeing a strong response of our branded campaigns. And branded campaigns have a compounding effect over time. So it's a matter of doing the right things and brand consistently. And that means optimizing markets, optimizing our creatives. We see room for improvement. And whenever we do improvements, we see further impact. So it's a matter of doing this consistently throughout the year, and we see a very good chance to offset losses in performance marketing. And we certainly are learning on how to adapting and participating in the new ad formats, which we're trying to optimize over time as well.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Ju of UBS.

Jeremy Liu

Analyst

This is Jeremy on the Stephen. I got 2 questions. First, on brand marketing, can you talk broadly about how the ROAS and the payback period may be different from performance? And then second, as a follow-up on the demand side, the softer bidding activity you're calling out for Europe and Rest of World, is this largely a consequence of local currency devaluing relative to global, for example, with the yen and making it more expensive for travelers in APAC? Or is there something underlying you're seeing in terms of consumer demand?

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

So let me comment on the first part on the ROAS. The difference in performance marketing is that you have a good level of ROAS with the acquisition of the users. And that is basically in performance marketing, the beauty, you invest in quick and quickly get a return with brand is just a little bit of a longer horizon that we put on the perspective. But we see short-term impact, and we know what the short-term impact are as proxies for long-term impact. That's where we have a ton of data about and good assumptions on how the branded visitor baseline would evolve over time, and that's translating into a long-term return.

Robin Harries

Analyst

So regarding travel trends, what we see across the 3 segments is that ADRs are slightly down in the segment, so in our trivago internal data. And we see that length of stay is slightly down in Americas and Rest of the World, slightly up in Europe. So -- and this leads to slightly lower ABVs in Americas and Rest of the World and stable ABVs in Europe. So when we look at the star hotels, so we see a share of 4- to 5-star hotels continues -- that is continuously going down, yes, so in all 3 segments. And, yes, so this indicates that people are more price sensitive. And we also see this in Rest of the World. So especially when you look into Japan, we see ADRs going down there as well, also on local...

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from the line of James Lee of Mizuho.

James Lee

Analyst

Great. My question is on AI investments. And Can you help us understand what you're doing there specifically. Are you developing apps on top of the foundational model? If so, can you give a sense what you're working with and what use cases you're developing that could differentiate your product versus your peers?

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for asking the question. I think it's pretty central to our efforts. On the 1 side, there's a ton of things we do internally to improve operations and be more efficient. And we create a lot of awareness, and it's on everybody's strategic priority internally to think about it. If you see our TV ads, we mentioned how we are leveraging AI to localize our ads in the past. We had a lot of different speakers per market, which was quite expensive. Production was a very long period. We now use AI to localize our TV ads. So that's something you see teams innovating and leveraging AI like at the edge of what's actually possible, and that's what we expect from every team in the company. When it comes to our product, I've mentioned the AI highlights. So you can go to New York look at the Mandarin Oriental. And you will see snippets that says unbeatable use [indiscernible] and then we give context around it, breathtaking, Panoramas of Manhattan. So very distinct things use piece hotel can offer. These are not human generated. They are AI generated. And to be able to do this at scale for 120,000 hotels, we have built the infrastructure. We have used a range of models, tested different models where we are experimenting with. We have a solid setup that works for us now that is using -- that is operational and effective, and we continue doing that. We're not sharing, who we work with and this changes over time as well, as we don't want to be locked in into 1 model, but continue to run on what we're -- we see biggest impact. And then the last thing, so it's about content aggregating, bringing what's really relevant for users into their mind when it's relevant. And then the last 1 where we're excited about, where we have put a team on, is natural language search. Everybody that is in the search field certainly is thinking about conversational search and how you create a different experience for the user. And that's why we have built core models on. How do we not use city plus date and region and like aesthetic data infrastructure, but rather research environment that gives you a list of hotels. And we call this a natural language search that we're exploring, but it's super early in our space. But I think we can expect everybody in search space, including us, will find ways of use cases where we make the search results more relevant through that. And machine learning and AI were used for a long time in showing more relevant search results already, but improving our search, showing more relevant content, leveraging it in marketing, that's a focus for us.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ron Josey of Citi.

Ronald Josey

Analyst

I wanted to ask Johannes you talked a little -- you talked about trivago's second-price auction test and plans to launch here shortly. Talk to us a little more about the results that you're seeing from the testing there and what makes you feel confident about moving forward here in launching that? And can you just provide some additional thoughts on just the DMA and the DSA and some of the newer rules and regulations regarding the gatekeepers and maybe how trivago is positioned here?

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

Thank you for your question. Maybe the SBA part, I think it has been a very big project for us. We have been working on this now for about 9 months, great effort. And this is work with our partners internally, quite complex infrastructure change. And we have rolled this out in record speeds and very consistently. And we are seeing the intentions were twofold. On the 1 hand, we want to improve our search results. In the first price auction, you have the problem when advertisers bid up, the hotel gets pushed up in the ranking very fast. And that means you can pay hotels up the ranking and then that means that not the best hotels are in front of users' minds. And as a second price auction, this is milder. We have a more stable search results. That's the expectation over time with indication that we get there. And that has been an important qualification, are we improving the user experience and that's what we want to see. And the second part, our partners are working on Google, on other marketing channels in the second price auction. So we simplify the world so they all need to think about first and second price, and we make it more simple for them. Also when you bid in a second price auction, you don't have risk of overbidding, and don't need to bid down to understand, who's the next highest bidder so you may be overpaying in the auction. That risk is gone, which means the marketplace overall becomes more efficient and also medium-sized players can be more aggressive without huge economic risk. So that is, I think, on the expectations. We see both signals on the user side and the feedback we get from our partners that they…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Fitzgerald of Wells Fargo.

Brian Fitzgerald

Analyst

In the prepared remarks, you mentioned that branded traffic volumes are growing nicely and Developed Europe, Rest of the World, but not so much in Latin America. To what extent is that a function of you running material different campaigns? Or is it just the timing in the markets there? Anything different with respect to Latin America with regard to branded campaigns.

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

That is -- I think we -- in Latin America, we have strategically not focused on at the beginning of the year. And the reason was that the levels of optimization and the focus we put there were not at the levels we liked. So you're trying to find out where you have the best dynamics across the globe and where you want to invest your money. And that was not the place where we have seen the returns we wanted to, and we quickly stopped investing in those markets, to be able to invest into markets with more elasticity.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your question next question comes from the line of Doug Anmuth of JPMorgan.

Dae Lee

Analyst

This is Dae on for Doug. I have 2. So the first one, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you're seeing softer bidding dynamics and if that's properties across all advertisers and why specifically Developed Europe and Rest of the World and what makes Americas different? And I have a follow-up.

Robin Harries

Analyst

Thanks for the question. So we saw that a big advertisers a bit softer at the beginning of Q1, yes so -- but went back to more healthy levels in Americas and remain softer in Developed Europe and Rest of the World. So the reasons, yes -- so I think we -- I mean we expect what branded traffic and higher conversions will be appreciated by our partners over time. We see at the moment in Americas, there might be more heated competition on our platforms so which leads better bidding dynamics. And, yes, so this is, at the moment, on a healthy level in Americas, and it's increasing in Developed Europe and the Rest of the World so -- but it's still softer compared to last year.

Dae Lee

Analyst

So I guess related to that, you kind of briefly touched on that already, but what do you think is needed for advertisers to react or appreciate the higher quality and better converting traffic that you're sending right now?

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

I think here, the most important or 1 of the important factors in our engagement with advertisers, and they are very engaged, big ones, small ones, medium-sized suppliers. There's very active discussions. What they certainly want is traffic that's incremental. So if we compete in Google and buy the same traffic, and it's not incremental for them, it's not that attractive. And if we look at the recent years, our share of performance marketing has been bigger and now leaning back into brand. They -- we expect them to see more incrementality. If that comes -- and we are showing that by much higher conversion rates already. Our branded traffic converts much better. So along with both product improvements, conversion rates are up, and I think that is an aspect that in the next review, they will hopefully see that our traffic is more incremental. And then on a relative basis to other channels, you become more attractive. And that's a matter of how quickly does this materialize. We have seen the year started much softer, and over the course of the quarter, numbers have normalized. And as Robin said in Americas, very healthy; in Europe and Rest of the World a bit softer but, overall, at good levels.

Operator

Operator

With no further questions, this concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Johannes for closing remarks.

Johannes Thomas

Analyst

We are committed to delivering sustainable growth and creating long-term value for our shareholders. The success of the company will be driven by our continuous transformation in marketing and innovation in our core product. I'd like to thank everyone for participating in our earnings call. We appreciate your time and your ongoing interest in our company. We look forward to updating you on our progress and results on the next call. Thank you, and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.