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Q2 2023 Earnings Call· Tue, Jul 25, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the TransUnion 2023 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Aaron Hoffman, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Aaron Hoffman

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for attending today. Joining me on the call are Chris Cartwright, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Todd Cello, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We posted our earnings release and slides to accompany this call on the TransUnion Investor Relations website this morning. Our earnings release and the accompanying slides include various schedules, which contain more detailed information about revenue, operating expenses and other items, as well as certain non-GAAP disclosures and financial measures along with the corresponding reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures. Today's call will be recorded and a replay will be available on our website. We will also be making statements during this call that are forward-looking. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements because of factors discussed in today's earnings release, in the comments made during this conference call and in our most recent Form 10-K, Forms 10-Q and other reports and filings with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. With that, let me turn the time over to Chris.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Thanks, Aaron. And let me add my welcome and share our agenda for the call this morning. First, I'll discuss the macroeconomic conditions and TransUnion's markets around the world. Then I'll provide an overview of our strong second quarter financial performance. I'll also review the continued progress with Neustar to accelerate revenue growth and achieve savings targets. And I'll wrap up with a short discussion of our global capability center strategy, which enables us to scale our global business efficiently and tap into diverse talent pools. And finally, Todd will detail our second quarter results, along with our third quarter and full year guidance. Through the second quarter, macroeconomic conditions are unchanged to slightly improve with reduced expectations for a recession in the U.S. In most of our markets globally, consumers continue to face higher interest rates and elevated although moderating inflation levels. This combination will continue to strain household finances, although high employment levels and modest real wage gains have mitigated the impact of these pressures to-date in most of our markets. Consumers remain resilient, and we see positive continued demand for borrowing. In the U.S., we've seen increased caution and tighter lending standards from banks. However, the strong demand for credit continues to be met by a broad range of lenders. U.S. consumers remain healthy and optimistic relative to historical norms with modest spending growth based on strong employment and real wage increases. Credit performance metrics have continued to normalize and remain within range of pre-pandemic and historical levels. Although delinquencies have increased, they're still very comfortable by historic standards across mortgage, card, auto and unsecured personal loans. Across our international portfolio, conditions also remain largely unchanged. In Canada and the UK, consumer health and credit demand continue to be similar to the U.S. with persistently high inflation…

Todd Cello

Analyst

Thanks, Chris, and let me add my welcome to everyone. I’ll start off with our consolidated financial results. Second quarter consolidated revenue increased 2% on a reported and 3% on an organic constant currency basis. There was no impact from acquisitions as we lap the purchase of Argus last quarter. Foreign exchange was a 1% headwind. Our business grew 2% on an organic constant currency basis excluding mortgage from both the second quarter of 2022 and 2023. Adjusted EBITDA declined 3% on a reported basis. Our adjusted EBITDA margins sequentially improved to 35.0% down almost 200 basis points compared to the year ago second quarter, which had the most challenging comparison for 2023. Second quarter adjusted diluted earnings per share declined 13% as a result of lower adjusted EBITDA and higher interest expense. Before I get into U.S. Markets results, a reminder that we are reporting Neustar revenue within our vertical market structure and we will discontinue providing standalone Neustar reporting at the end of 2023. Now looking at segment financial performance for the second quarter, U.S. Markets revenue was up 1% compared to the year ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for U.S. Markets declined 5% and adjusted EBITDA margin was 34.6%. Financial services revenue was flat. Turning to the individual end markets. Consumer lending revenue declined low-double digits against a high-20% growth rate in the year ago quarter. After pulling back, late last year in response to a potentially weakening consumer, fintechs have stabilized and remain active market participants with reasonable access to funding. We also continued to see strength in the Buy Now Pay Later market. Our credit card business was down mid-single-digits against a high teens growth rate in the prior year quarter. Issuers remain selective on marketing outreach, but continue to originate at a healthy level. We…

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Thank you, Todd. To wrap up, we had another good quarter beating our guidance for revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EPS. We’re prudently holding our full year guidance given the level of uncertainty in the market, at the same time we continue to make meaningful progress integrating Neustar and delivering business wins from the combination. With that, I’ll turn it back to Aaron.

Aaron Hoffman

Analyst

Thanks, Chris. That concludes our prepared remarks. For the Q&A, as always, we ask that you each ask only one question so that we can include more participants. And so now operator, we can begin the Q&A.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Jeff Meuler with Baird. Go ahead.

Jeff Meuler

Analyst

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. So totally respect the prudence and maintaining the guidance. I guess, just in terms of not flowing through the better Q2, and I know you said it’s still a uncertain and tough macro, but you said that’s unchanged to slightly improved. I see the offset in the lower U.S. mortgage revenue and inquiries guidance. Is there anything else that you’re seeing in your business kind of later in the quarter, early in Q3? Or any signals you’re getting from your customers that is showing a pullback in activity or is it just maybe extra conservatism or prudence? Thank you.

Todd Cello

Analyst

Good morning, Jeff. This is Todd. I’ll take that question and probably a very appropriate place for us to start this morning. So yes, in Q1 and Q2 we did beat expectations across revenue, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted diluted EPS and we did not raise the guide. And the reason for that is we feel that the economic conditions, particularly in the U.S. and in some of the developed markets that we operate in, continue to remain uncertain. And as a point to that and how we think about this, if you go back to our April call when we gave our Q1 results and the updated guide at that time we significantly increased our mortgage assumption for the year because we saw a mix shift more towards smaller players in the space. But we reduced our consumer lending forecast for the year close to similar amounts for all intents and purposes. And in the consumer lending space what we were seeing at that time was a slowdown and it was primarily in response to the aftermath of the Silicon Valley Bank and Signature failures. We saw just a cautiousness in the late March, early April period. So what happened is in the second quarter those dynamics that I just articulated that we forecasted in essence we saw almost reverse, we saw interest rates tick up in particular on the 10 year yield, which had a direct impact on mortgage rates where we saw mortgage rates close to 7% not that long ago, still in the upper 6’s. So as a result of that in this guide what we’ve done is we’ve taken down our mortgage assumption and conversely consumer lending as the second quarter went on and our customers got more and more comfortable with the type of environment…

Jeff Meuler

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Kelsey Zhu of Autonomous. Go ahead.

Kelsey Zhu

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I’m very excited about your strategic partnership with Truework. Just trying to understand a little bit better about the size of Truework’s database and revenue as well as your strategy to expand there. I was also wondering if you can share with us a little bit more about what the downstream customer breakdown looks like between kind of mortgage, background screening companies for Truework. And whether you’re usually competing with Equifax and Experian in this space, or are you more competing with some of the in-house manual verification processes at these mortgage lenders? Thanks.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Okay, Kelsey, thank you for the question. And again, we’re excited about our partnership with Truework’s. I think any discussion of verified employment and income space starts with the context that the work number is setting the standard for product in this marketplace. But it’s a big and attractive adjacent market for us. And I think the investment in Truework just reflects our continued efforts to find our way into this market and scale our revenues. We think the market is hungry for competitive alternatives and we’re one of a number of players that seized the opportunity and we’re going to continue to work to find the right solutions that can satisfy client needs and scale revenues. What we like about Truework is, they are rapidly emerging player in the space and they’re very kind of foot forward technologically. They have sophisticated workflow and orchestration software that’s very easy to access and has a very streamlined user interface that allows customers to fulfill the need through a variety of approaches or mechanisms that could be tapping into their database of employment and income, which is well beyond critical mass and growing from relationships with payroll processors, but also with major corporations. But they can also support a consumer permissioned account access workflow, the traditional telephonic workflow, document upload embedded within the loan origination lifecycle. So the kind of umbrella functionality that they provide across a range of fulfillment methods is particularly attractive. We think we have certainly attractive data assets and very broad distribution MSAs, relationships with the demand side that can help scale this investment. And then to some of your kind of more detailed questions, those are probably better for the Truework’s CEO. But I think this just reinforces our strategic intent to compete in this space and our ongoing efforts to find the right solution to help us penetrate and scale.

Kelsey Zhu

Analyst

Thanks for that.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Faiza Alwy of Deutsche Bank. Go ahead.

Faiza Alwy

Analyst

Yes, hi. Good morning. I wanted to just go back to the credit market again. And wanted to get your perspective on what you're seeing from fintech customers. And it seems, just from your commentary that maybe marketing revenues seem to have accelerated on the credit side of the equation. So would love to get some perspective on that sort of the puts and takes around marketing versus portfolio monitoring, sort of what you're seeing from your customers broadly and fintech in particular?

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Okay. Yes, happy to focus on that. I'd say trading conditions for the fintechs are largely unchanged between the quarters. We see certainly reduced activity from prior years where their growth had really accelerated, but a lot of stability and resilience in the sector. They are still originating loans, albeit at a lower level, and they're more selective than they were previously. I don't think we've seen a distinct shift toward marketing and customer acquisition in either the fintechs or frankly, consumer lending in the broad, right. There is more caution and there's more sensitivity to risk, which has reduced overall marketing and acquisition activity. That said, there's still a good level of lending activity. There are certainly ample consumer appetite for loans because the consumer remains pretty healthy. And as long as that's the case, the market is going to find a way to fulfill that demand. And again, I think it's important again, to provide some context. While in 2022, in the first half of the year, the fintechs in consumer lending in general was booming. We saw that diminish in the second half of the year, and we still have kind of steady as she goes, outlook for fintechs for the remainder of this year. But with that said, the business is still up 75% over the last three years. And we view that as something to be excited about, not concerned about.

Faiza Alwy

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Go ahead.

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead.

Hi. Going back to Slide 6, Neustar. Could you just be a little more specific and tell us what's driving the strong bookings, renewals and usage? And is there a joint product roadmap yet between Neustar and TransUnion?

Chris Cartwright

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead.

Yes. Happy to elaborate on that. First of all, I would say, across the three product areas of marketing, risk and communications, we've had strong growth in each of those areas, and we are looking to accelerated growth in the third and the fourth quarter to reach the full year high single-digits guide. As I said in my commentary, we had strong renewals with big customers. We are ramping the revenues from big customer wins last year. We continue to sell well. And so there's a lot of positive indicators that give us confidence in that Neustar high single-digit guide. And yes, we absolutely are executing on our cross-sell and on our integrated product development in very meaningful ways. In prior calls, I've talked I think, extensively about the benefits of Neustar's technology. The OneID platform that they developed, which we have adopted and rebranded as OneTRU and is becoming the integrated data acquisition, management and analytics platform for TransUnion across multiple geographies and multiple markets. We'll continue to roll that out. We've firmly proven the concept that we can do it. So yes, the integration is going well on multiple levels. I think on the selling side, we integrated the sales forces in the first year, and they're very comfortable and their knowledge of the broader product line is increasing, and their comfort cross-selling is increasing, and we are seeing improvement. Now clearly under more work to do and a lot of upside there. So we're going to continue to push hard. But we do have integrated product development or multigenerational product plans in each of their product lines between the two companies.

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead.

Thank you, Chris.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Go ahead.

Toni Kaplan

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Go ahead.

Thanks so much. Wanted to ask maybe one more question on the sort of Truework and verification. So ultimately, where do you see this going for you? Is your strategy really to try to compete head-to-head with Equifax now? I know historically, because of being sort of newer and smaller in that part of the business, like you had sort of had this niche strategy. So I guess, what is the new strategy there? And where are the real differentiators that you see for Truework and your combination? Thanks.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Go ahead.

Yes, sure. Again, look, I have to acknowledge that Equifax has a very strong business in the space. We all understand that. However, I think their – I think the market will support multiple competitors in the space in different niches. And so when you take on a strong and entrenched competitor like this, you're looking for an opportunity to penetrate the market. The market, I think, is hungry for alternatives for a variety of competitive factors. I think it's healthy, for the market I think it's good for consumers. And I think Truework has demonstrated that they have a value proposition that can sell, that they are scaling the business and that the distribution partnership with us is going to be significantly additive to that. So we’re working on growing this beachhead that they’ve established, and we can grow it in a variety of ways from adding records to increasing the distribution to deeper and more meaningful penetration into TransUnion products so they can ride our rails into our clients, et cetera. And we’re just going to continue to fight the fight and there’s really not a strategic change.

Toni Kaplan

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Go ahead.

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Please go ahead.

Andrew Nicholas

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to circle back to Neustar maybe a multi-part question here if you will. The first is the 6% growth essentially what you were expecting for the second quarter. And then the second part is just on kind of medium-term growth outlook there. I know the target when you announced the deal was to eventually get to double-digit growth. I’m just wondering if that’s still the target and to what extent do you need a supportive macro to get there? Thank you.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Yes. Well, 6% growth in Neustar in the second quarter is right on plan. And the plan for Neustar over the course of 2023 was accelerating revenues based on the strength of the bookings and the implementations. The bookings from 2022, and the implementations ramping over the course of 2023. And that is playing out as planned. We still expect to get the high-single digits for Neustar in total by the end of the year. Now back to the guidance, the initial guide, yes, indeed, we did expect for the business to be executing in the low-double digit organic revenue range of a couple of years after acquisition. That is still our expectation for the potential of this business over the longer-term. But again, we are facing more challenging conditions overall economically, but certainly in terms of marketing and advertising spend than when we first provided that guidance. So right now, we’re really focused on achieving high-single digit and sustaining that in the foreseeable future.

Todd Cello

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

And Chris, I would just add on to that, that just underscore the point that Neustar has performed to our expectations through the first half. And the second point that I think is important to understand is that this business is expected to be the fastest grower in our U.S. Markets business in 2023. So it gets to the question on the growth rates. Chris just said, we fully expect to deliver on the high-single digit. We put 3% growth up in Q1, 6% up in Q2. You can do the math as far as how high-single digits gets there. We have good visibility in the Q3, Q4, and it should be at a higher rate than what you’ve seen.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Yes. Those are good adds and too early to guide for 2024. We’re still focused on hitting 2023. The other add I guess is that the integration savings program continues right on target and as we grow revenue and we take costs out of the business, we’re going to progress toward those long-term margin objectives for Neustar as well.

Andrew Nicholas

Analyst · William Blair. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you, both.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ashish Sabadra of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Ashish Sabadra

Analyst

Thanks for taking the question. I wanted to focus on the EBITDA margin. The 3Q guidance implies a significant improvement both sequentially and year-on-year EBITDA margin expansion, but the implied fourth quarter margins, which are if my math is right around 39%, implies another sequential improvement. And I was wondering if you could talk about the drivers for that improvement. Are there one-time things or is that how we should think about the jump off point as we get into 2024? Thanks.

Todd Cello

Analyst

Ashish, thanks for the question. So as far as our outlook for adjusted EBITDA is concerned, let’s just say, I think the appropriate place to start is with our revenue guidance, right? And so if you look at the guide that we put out there obviously maintaining if you look at that from the high end of our guidance range, we are expecting incrementally more dollars to arrive from a revenue perspective in the second half. Seasonality is a big factor of that. So Q3 is typically one of TransUnion’s highest revenue quarters on a historical basis in a normal non-pandemic times. So we – you can see that in the guide that there’s incremental dollars that are assumed from a revenue perspective and that’s going to drive a nice amount of flow through into our adjusted EBITDA margin. The second thing that I would say is that the Neustar cost synergies that Chris just alluded to in the previous question they continue to build for us and provide a very meaningful benefit. So that’ll definitely be a driver for us as well. And coming of back to the first question that we got just about – in talking about the uncertainty that we face in the business, in response to that, the organization over the last year plus has prudently managed expenses. And we’ve been focused only on the most critical hires, we’ve pulled back on our travel and entertainment and looked for other one-time spend to be able to pull out of our operating expense run rate. So all of those forces are also in effect as well. And then the final point I would make is, if you think about Chris’ opening remarks and where we covered the Global Capability Centers provides a very meaningful benefit to TransUnion. That’s why we felt it was appropriate to provide that update and a little bit more detail this quarter. So that’s definitely another driver for us as well too.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Yes. And I think that’s all spot on. And I think just to amplify that last point, centralizing operations and building out our global capability centers has been a big part of globalizing this company, but also making it structurally more profitable. And that’s why we put a spotlight on the march that we’ve been on for the past five years now. And I – we think there’s more opportunity. We’re going to stay the course there and take full advantage of it. We also think there’s opportunity and time to become structurally more efficient on the technology side, and as we continue our migration through Project Rise to the cloud with considerable standardization along the way that will then create an opportunity for us to consolidate the tech stack further and produce some further efficiencies there as well. So we’re on a multi-year path here to get our margins back to where they were before the acquisitions, that’s our commitment to investors. And it’s a combination of the near-term things that Todd talked about, but also the strategic backdrop that we’ve been investing in for many years.

Ashish Sabadra

Analyst

That’s great. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Jeffrey of Truist Securities. Go ahead.

Andrew Jeffrey

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking the question. I’m wondering specifically, Chris, in the Trusted Call Solutions part of your business, can you talk about sort of where those wins are coming from? Are they coming from internal solutions? So from whom are you taking share and what are the pricing characteristics of those contracts?

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Okay, well, let me shed some more light on that. What I would say is that, Trusted Call Solutions is a relatively new solution to the market. And I mean, Neustar over the past four or five years has taken it from zero to where it is today. And I think we’ve guided on the specific dollars, but it’s already been a considerable success. So don’t think of this as us taking share from established players. This is an innovation that they brought to market that we’re scaling. We’re having success selling it across all of our vertical markets, frankly. And knock wood here, thus far, it’s been the easiest cross sell that’s come out of this TransUnion and Neustar combination. We view Trusted Call Solutions as – it’s a product that straddles both marketing effectiveness, which is a major strategic push for us, but also risk mitigation. And again, it’s based on the broad and unique phone intelligence that Neustar has always had at its core that goes all the way back to Argus info. And we think there’s a lot of growth upside. So it has been, from a revenue perspective, a nice positive to our M&A case since we bought the business and we are focused on investing and accelerating and further scaling it.

Andrew Jeffrey

Analyst

I appreciate that. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Heather Balsky of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Heather Balsky

Analyst

Hi, thank you for taking my question. I was curious about the insurance business and the trends you saw in the quarter and how to think about the improvement for the rest of the year. Shopping is improving, marketing hasn’t started to ramp just yet, kind of what are you hearing, what do you think happens with marketing as the year progresses? Thanks.

Chris Cartwright

Analyst

Yes. I think those are some fair insights, Heather. And what I’ll say about insurance that we expect the growth rate in insurance to accelerate in the second half. We’re happy that we’ve already seen some improvement in the second quarter. I’ll remind you that the third quarter of last year, and even the fourth quarter to a lesser extent for insurance we’re quite muted, because marketing activity, client acquisition activity just came to a grinding halt because of the mismatch between the pricing and repair and replacement costs at P&C carriers. As we updated you last call, the carriers are making good progress in getting price increases from the various states. I think, and they say that there’s still a bit more work to do, but we’re approaching a point where they can initiate new business again with more confidence. And so with that, I’d expect some improving trends on the marketing activities. Whether it goes back to the same level of frothiness or how long it takes to get to that point, it remains to be seen. But given the material price increases that they’ve had to put through on their customers, there’s an acceleration in shopping behavior, which has helped our numbers as well. So we’ve got some pretty reasonable confidence that we’re going to accelerate in insurance over the second half of the year. And hopefully, that’ll set us up for a nice guide in 2024 too.

Aaron Hoffman

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Chris. And given that we’re now at the bottom of the hour, we want to be respectful of everyone’s time on what we know is a busy day of earnings in the space. We’re going to close down the call, but thank you everyone very much for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you over the course of the quarter. All the best.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.