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TrustCo Bank Corp NY (TRST)

Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, Oct 22, 2021

$47.69

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the TrustCo Bank Corp earnings call and webcast. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero on your keypad. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star and then one. To withdraw your question, you may press star and then two. Before proceeding, we would like to mention that this presentation may contain forward-looking information about TrustCo Bank Corp New York that is intended to be covered by the Safe Harbor and forward-looking statements provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. As a result and trends could differ materially from those set forth in such statements due to various risks, uncertainties, and other factors. More detailed information about these and other risk factors can be found in our press release that preceded this call, and in the risk factors and forward-looking statements section of our annual report on Form 10-K and as updated by our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The statements are valid only as of the date hereof, and the company disclaims any obligation to update this information except as may be required by applicable law. Today’s presentation contains non-GAAP financial measures. The reconciliations of such measures to the most comparable GAAP figures are included in our earnings press release, which is available under the Investor Relations tab of our website at trustcobank.com. Please also note today’s event is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Robert J. McCormick, Chairman, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Robert McCormick

Management

Thank you Nadi, and good morning everyone. As the host said, I am Rob McCormick, President of the bank. As usual, I’m joined by Mike Ozimek and Scot Salvador. Mike is our CFO and Scot is our Senior Lending Officer. As we have done in the past, I’ll provide a summary hitting the highlights, and then turn it over to Mike for a lot of detail on the numbers and Scot will go over the loan portfolio. We will respond to any questions you have, then we can wrap it up. We had a very solid third quarter at the bank. Our $16.8 million net income is a record for us and is over 19% greater than the same quarter last year. Assets at the end of the quarter were $6.135 billion, greater than last quarter and the same quarter last year. The increase in assets is driven by our loan growth in our residential portfolio. Commercial loans are down as a result of the PPP forgiveness. Home equity loans are down much less than prior periods. As we have discussed on this call before, we believe the runoff is being captured in our residential portfolio and we’re also working this product a little bit harder with some new programs to encourage new and additional borrowings. Installment loan have never been material at the bank. We have a large cash position and a substantial investment portfolio with pretty short maturities. We maintain both an anticipation of and preparation for a changing rate environment. We, like a lot of companies, have had tremendous deposit growth. This has afforded us the opportunity to shake off some of the higher cost time deposits with nice growth in the traditional core accounts and money market. We were able to increase our equity to over $586 million. Our loan portfolio is performing very well. Non-performing loans to total loans is at 0.46% and non-performing assets to total assets are at 0.34%. Both have improved over prior periods. Our allowance for loan losses to total loan is 1.08% with a coverage ratio of 2.3 times, and that is after recovering $2.8 million from the reserve. We are prepared for CECL implementation next year. Return on average assets, equity, and our efficiency ratio all showed improvement over the period. We continue to pay our healthy dividend. We are operating 147 full service offices after closing one and opening Palm Coast in Florida. We are having the same labor difficulties as most. We are exploring loan production offices and plan to open one in Naples, Florida. This is a much longer term strategy. We also have worked to expand our lending area to neighboring counties in a few areas. We continue to operate a full services financial services department. Now I’ll turn it over to Mike and Scot, who have a lot more to detail. Mike?

Michael Ozimek

Management

Thank you Rob, and good morning everyone. I will now review TrustCo’s financial results for the third quarter of 2021. As we noted in the press release, the company saw net income of $16.8 million in the third quarter of 2021, an increase of 19.1% over the prior year quarter which yielded a return on average assets and average equity of 1.08 and 11.40 respectively. Average loans for the third quarter of ’21 grew 4.2% or $176.4 million to $4.4 billion from the third quarter of 2020. As expected, the growth continues to be concentrated within our primary lending focus, the residential real estate portfolio, which increased by $218.2 million or 5.9% in the third quarter of ’21 over the same period in 2020. The average commercial loan portfolio decreased $20.7 million or 8.9% over the same period in 2020. This included approximately $23 million of new PPP loans originated in ’21. The bank currently has approximately $21 million of the remaining SBA PPP loans. Total average investment securities, which include the AFS and HCM portfolios, increased $19.2 million or 4.3% during the third quarter of ’21 over the same period in 2020. During the same period, the bank had three securities called at a total par value of $20 million. One security matured at a par value of $3.5 million and approximately $28 million of pooled securities were paid down. During the same period, the bank also purchased approximately $4.1 million of securities. The provision for loan loss for the third quarter was a credit of $2.8 million, a decrease compared to the $1 million provision for loan loss in the same period in 2020. As you may remember, during 2020 management increased certain allowance-related qualitative factors based on its assessment of the impact of the current pandemic on…

Scot Salvador

Management

Thanks Mike and good morning everybody. For the third quarter, the bank continued to record strong loan growth. Overall loans increased by $47 million in actual numbers, or 1.1%. Year-over-year loans increased by $182 million or 4.3%. The residential portfolio showed growth of $56 million on the quarter. Year-over-year, growth totaled $210 million in residential loans, or 5.3%. Commercial loans decreased by $9 million on the quarter, which includes ongoing pay downs on the bank’s SBA PPP program. Residential real estate remains active in all our market areas. The results of increased prices and lowered inventory levels has hampered some individual borrowers and their ability to find and secure a home for purchase; however, overall the demand for purchase money remains at satisfactory levels. On the refinance side of things, activity is down significantly from where it stood a year ago at this point. Mortgage rates do remain low, however, and though down from last year’s frantic pace, there still remains an elevated degree of refinance activity. Whether refinance continues to decrease to still lower levels in the near term is uncertain and largely dependent upon whether mortgage rates begin to increase to some significant degree. Our mortgage backlog has come down approximately 10% since the second quarter. It remains solid overall, however, and contains a good amount of new money. We are pleased with where we stand entering the fourth quarter and optimistic about continuing to post satisfactory net loan growth. Interest rates, although having ticked up slightly of late, continue to remain at low levels. Currently, our 30-year fixed rate stands at 3.75%. Asset quality measurements remain strong. On the quarter, non-performing loans dropped from $20.8 million to $20.2 million and non-performing assets decreased from $21.1 million to $20.7 million. Year-over-year, slightly larger decreases were posted in both categories. Early stage link fees remain low and our allowance for loan losses now stands at 1.08%. Charge-offs continue to remain very light and equated to just above zero for the quarter on a net basis. The coverage ratio, or our allowance for loan losses to non-performing loans now stands at 235%, up from 225% a year ago. Rob?

Robert McCormick

Management

Thanks Scot. We’re happy to answer any questions you have.

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions] Our first question today comes from Alex Twerdahl of Piper Sandler. Alex, please go ahead. Your line is open.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Good morning guys.

Robert McCormick

Management

Good morning Alex.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

I was just first off, Rob, hoping you could talk a little bit more about the strategy, the expansion strategy. I think the new geographies kind of around the residential product certainly make a lot of sense, but maybe talk a little bit more about both the expectations there as well as the thought process around [indiscernible] in Naples.

Robert McCormick

Management

It’s a great way to dip our toe into the water, Alex. It’s a dollar bet instead of a much larger bet. We leased about 850 square feet in end cap in a strip center, we’re paying very little for it, and as long as we can get the right originators in that office, we think we can make some hay for it. I think, as you know, the west coast of Florida especially has been particularly good to the bank, and I just think a further expansion is in order and a very good idea. I also think it might be a great opportunity to expand into full service branches down the road into that area.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, and is that primarily going to be originating one to four family, or is there other products that it’s going to be focused on?

Robert McCormick

Management

Yes, yes, and remember we go as far south now as Englewood, if you’re not familiar with Florida, which is in the same county as Naples or the next county up from Naples, so.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, so it’s just a continued expansion of that footprint.

Robert McCormick

Management

Same with Palm Coast, by the way. I’m sorry?

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, that makes sense, that makes sense.

Robert McCormick

Management

And then same with Palm Coast. The branch we just opened in Palm Coast is the same thing - that’s in Flagler County, which is very close to Ormond Beach in Port Orange.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Are you seeing a lot of success? I mean, are you able to give us some color around the mortgage production out of Florida versus the upstate New York piece? Is there--are they pretty equal, or is there still a big tilt towards upstate New York?

Robert McCormick

Management

We’re very pleased with the mortgage production in Florida and it’s getting very comparable to the other areas that we serve.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay. Scot, I missed what you said about the pipeline going into the fourth quarter. Can you repeat that?

Scot Salvador

Management

Yes, so we’re down about 10% from where we were in the second quarter, Alex, which is not uncommon for this time of year, but it’s a good, solid pipeline, it’s got a lot of new money, so we’re pretty pleased with where we stand and we think we should be able to continue to post some good growth this quarter.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, and when you talk about the new money, maybe put that into context relative to where it was in the second quarter, the sort of refi versus new money proportions.

Scot Salvador

Management

Yes, well it’s more--if you look back a year, it’s probably a better comparison. Last year at this point, we had a little bit higher backlog but the percentage of refinances in that backlog was much more significant. As I said in my presentation, there’s still an elevated level of refinance activity, but it’s nothing like it was last year, so although the backlog is down a little bit percentage-wise from last year, the percentage of refis is down significantly versus purchase money and that sort of thing.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, great. Then with the 10-year kind of creeping up a little bit here and just sort of sitting on the amount of cash and seeing the runoff on the securities portfolio, Mike, I was hoping maybe you could talk a little bit more about the thought process around actually putting a little bit more cash to work into securities in the short term, and what sort of opportunities you’re waiting for.

Michael Ozimek

Management

Right. You know, we definitely spent a lot of time looking at it year out and we get to a conscious decision of no, if we’re not investing. It is getting a little bit higher. We are talking to some of our guys out in the field, some of the brokers out there to take a look at it, but until it really gets to a spot where we need to invest to kind of help ourselves along, we’re going to continue to hold. There’s no downside right now, the way we look at it, for not putting that money to work. In six months if it’s higher, then that’s a better spot for us.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, so is there something, a specific number you’re looking for in terms of when you’ll start to put money to work or how much you’ll start to ladder out?

Michael Ozimek

Management

No, not right now.

Robert McCormick

Management

It’s based on the need that we have, Alex, and where the rates are going and where we think the trending is going at that point. I guess higher would be the answer.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Yes, okay. Just a final question for me. You guys did a little bit in the buyback. What are you kind of thinking about for the share repurchase program? The stock’s down to 110 of tangible book value. Is there a specific price that it gets more attractive to utilize that buyback more? Is it capital levels beyond or earnings beyond the dividend that you’d consider allocating toward the buyback, or what’s the thought process there?

Robert McCormick

Management

No, we’re going to stay active in the buyback, Alex. You know when you have a close window period around earnings time, you can’t buy, so we were active, I think right up until the window closed and we would anticipate being active again in the future.

Alex Twerdahl

Analyst

Okay, thanks for taking my questions.

Robert McCormick

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you Alex. This concludes our Q&A session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Robert J. McCormick for any closing remarks.

Robert McCormick

Management

Thank you for your interest in our company and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

The conference call has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.