Good morning, and welcome to the Tronox Holdings plc Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After todays presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instruction] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jennifer Guenther, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, and welcome to our second quarter 2021 conference call and webcast. On our call today are John Romano and Jean-François Turgeon, Co-Chief Executive Officer; and Tim Carlson, Chief Financial Officer. We will be using slides as we move through today's call. Those of you listening by Internet broadcast through our website should already have them. For those listening by telephone, if you haven't already done so, you can access them on our website at investor.tronox.com. Moving to Slide 2. A reminder that comments made on this call and the information provided in our presentation and on our website include certain statements that are forward-looking and subject to various risks and uncertainties, including, but not limited to, the specific factors summarized in our SEC filings. This information represents our best judgment based on today's information. However, actual results may vary based on these risks and uncertainties. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. During the conference call, we will refer to certain non-U.S. GAAP financial terms that we use in the management of our business and believe are useful to investors in evaluating the company's performance. Reconciliations to their nearest U.S. GAAP terms are provided in our earnings release and in the appendix of the accompanying presentation. Moving to Slide 3. It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to John Romano. John?

Thanks, Jennifer, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We'd like to start today's call by thanking all of our employees around the world for all the continued hard work and support, which allowed us to deliver these great results. Our second quarter results were very strong despite multiple supplier and logistics headwinds. This was another record quarter for Tronox on TiO2 sales volumes, revenue, earnings per share, adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow, all enabled by the continuation of the market recovery, the strength of our differentiated, vertically integrated business model and the support of our customers. Revenue in the second quarter increased 4% sequentially to $927 million, primarily driven by higher TiO2 and zircon average selling prices. This represented a 60% increase year-over-year. Net income for the quarter was $77 million and diluted earnings per share was $0.46, while adjusted earnings per share was $0.61. The difference between diluted EPS and adjusted EPS is due to debt redemption costs associated with our Q1 refinancing. Our adjusted EBITDA was $237 million, setting yet another record for Tronox. This figure came in at the top end of our guided range due to improved commercial performance, as expected, offset by higher inflationary pressures and operational disruptions. JF will review this in more details in a few minutes. Adjusted EBITDA margins improved to 26% for the quarter. We generated $150 million in free cash flow after investing $60 million in capital expenditures. We repaid $135 million in debt in the second quarter and an additional $70 million in July for a total of $205 million. Our total debt balance as of today is $2.8 billion, and our trailing 12-month net leverage ratio is 3.2 times. We are $300 million away from our total debt target of $2.5 billion…

Thank you, JF. On Slide 8, on the left-hand side, we have outlined our liquidity and capital resources at the end of the quarter. We have $767 million in total available liquidity, including $303 million of cash and cash equivalents, which is appropriately distributed across our global operations. Our current liquidity is more than sufficient to operate the business. Moving to the right-hand side of the page. Capital expenditures in the second quarter were $60 million. CapEx is expected to increase in Q3 and Q4, reflecting the pacing of expenditures related to newTRON and Atlas-Campaspe capital projects in the year as well as other maintenance spend; though we are bringing our outlook down to $300 million to $325 million, given our midyear reassessment of where we are in terms of capital deployment. Depreciation, depletion and amortization expense was $71 million in the quarter, and we expect DD&A to be approximately $300 million to $320 million for the year. Our free cash flow for the quarter was $150 million due to our strong cash earnings. We also returned $28 million to share owners in the form of dividends year-to-date. Given the continued strength in our cash generation capabilities, our confidence in our business model and our view on the cycle, we are increasing our quarterly dividend by $0.02 per share to $0.10, bringing our annualized dividend to $0.40 per share. We expect to continue to generate significant cash flow and believe that we'll be able to soon achieve our debt target, and we'll continue to evaluate our capital return to shareowner policies moving forward. Turning to Slide 9. I'd like to share our outlook. As John mentioned, both TiO2 and zircon prices are expected to increase as we make progress with our regional pricing initiatives. TiO2 market demand remains very strong,…

Thanks, Tim. JF, Tim and I are very proud of the organization's accomplishments in the first half of this year. This is a critical time for Tronox. We remain confident that our portfolio of assets and market position, we are prepared to continue to capitalize on the momentum and delivering on the commitments to our stakeholders. We have continued to operate with a future in mind and are diligently progressing on the previously identified key capital projects to reduce costs and ensure we sustain our advantage position. That concludes our prepared comments. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over for questions. Operator?

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from John McNulty of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Maybe we can dig into the supply and freight issues a little bit more. Can you give us whatever clarity you might have as to the timing of when we might be able to start to see some of these issues get resolved? I know there's certainly kind of moving targets right now, but any color that you might be able to give us would be great. Jean-François Turgeon: So John, I'll start with that, and I'm sure John can add. Look, we see the issue that will last until the end of the year. Look, I know that at the beginning of the year, we thought that for the second half of 2021, that would improve. But really, the reality is everything is still very, very tight. And the visibility that we have at the moment bring us to the end of '21, and it's still a challenge to get vessel, to get container, to put the material in and to move things around.

Yes. John, I guess from the standpoint of -- it's kind of 2 things, also. It's the logistics which, again, to JF's point, we would hope by the end of the year that we'd start to see and get some relief from that. But it's really hard to say at this stage. It hasn't gotten any better. And then from our ability to continue to work with our suppliers, we've had other issues. Clearly, there was some disruption in the first quarter that had to do with the Storm Uri. That has been exacerbated by other issues that we've talked about regarding chlorine, not only in the U.S., but also in our plant in Stallingborough.

And then assuming that these issues aren't just specific to Tronox, I guess can you speak to what all of this means for the ability for the industry to start catching up in terms of building inventory, kind of getting back on track? Because it does seem like things are pretty thin. And I would imagine this makes it thinner. But I guess I'd love some color from you guys on that.

Look, from the standpoint of -- we think the entire supply chain with regards to inventory is below what we refer to as seasonal norms. And our ability to build inventory between now and the end of the year and meet customer demand with all the challenges that are going on is going to be difficult. This has absolutely nothing to do with demand. So I would suspect maybe to directly answer what I expect you're hedging for, that is that demand will continue to be pent-up and will likely elongate this cycle. We have a lot of requests from customers for additional volume. I don't think Tronox is on an island with the transportation issues that are going on in the industry right now.

And then maybe just one last question. There was a lot of noise around ore supply throughout the quarter and a lot of kind of data points picking up. Can you speak to your thoughts on global ore supplies? And what it could mean for TiO2 pricing as well as the ability for the industry to either add capacity, debottleneck, et cetera? Any thoughts would be great. Jean-François Turgeon: Yes. John, look, you're referring to [indiscernible] announcing that they will shut down their mine that produce natural [indiscernible] own and reopen issue in [indiscernible] shutting down there mine, that’s feed their [indiscernible]. So look I think this play into the strength of Tronox. We're vertically integrated. So we have our own mine and our own concentrator and upgrading facility. We're 85% vertically integrated. And the 15% that we buy onto the market, I mean we have had long-term contract in place, and we're well equipped to deal with that tight market. You also know that we're going to start [indiscernible] toward the end of the year. So I think we're in a very good position for facing that reality, which I think will play to our strength that we will see our competitor seeing their feedstock cost moving up at the time we're working hard on lowering the cost of producing out of our own operation.

The next question is from Josh Spector of UBS. Please go ahead.

Just when you talked about TiO2 volume sequentially in the quarter, you talked about improvements in North America and EMEA. Can you give us some color of what you're seeing in Asia-Pacific? And if any of the demand patterns changed, your customer order patterns changed through the quarter?

Yes, Josh. So from the standpoint, we saw growth in every region. We made reference that we saw more growth in Europe and in North America in the second quarter. But we have not seen demand weaken at all. The growth has moderated a bit in China, and I think that's where maybe there's some concern around what's happening. We don't see China weakening. We see that demand continuing to be significant. There's clearly some obstacles. We have an operation in China. Freight rates out of China and other regions of the world are very expensive right now, and it's not only the expense of the containers and the logistics, it's the port support congestion. So all of what's happening, I think, in China right now from the standpoint of demand is still positive. There's some comments coming out with regards to what's happening could be deemed as weakness, and we don't see that at this stage.

Okay. Appreciate that. And just in line with some of the comments around the volume constraints last quarter into third quarter, is there any region which you would say is seeing a bigger impact of some of those supply constraints and perhaps getting less of your ability to get pricing in that region?

I think I'll add, and then JF, if you want to make another comment, please feel free to. It depends on the timing. We mentioned the U.K having a problem the core issue there a basically a power outage that created a problem for the chlorine provider in the U.K. So that was an issue. There's been a lot of discussion about chlorine availability in North America. The logistics issue plays into our ability to export out of Australia, quite frankly, and that's a very congested market for us. We ship a lot of material out of Australia and other regions of the world. So I'd say there's not really any one region that's more significantly impacted over the first half. I'd say in the second quarter, we may have saw a bit more in Europe and North America. Although we had very strong number in North America.

The next question is from Frank Mitsch of Fermium Research. Please go ahead.

Nice results. I want to follow-up on the feedstock supply issue and the ore supply issue. Certainly, there's going to be some inflation there. I'm just curious what your crystal ball is forecasting in terms of ore pricing over the next 6 to 12 to 12 months. What sort of order of magnitude would you anticipate ore prices moving up given the supply difficulties that we're seeing there? Jean-François Turgeon: So Frank, well, you know that we don't speculate on what price will do going forward. So I think that your guess is as good as ours. Look, we certainly see a tight market, but we feel that as Tronox, we're in a good position with our own production. And because we don't sell any feedstock onto the market, I mean, we're not trying to speculate what will happen with price.

JF, with all due respect, your guess is way better than mine on the outlook there, but understood. And I believe you mentioned that Yanbu -- sorry, I wanted to ask about [indiscernible]. What's your confidence level there? What's the progress there? Can you give us a more granular uptake? Jean-François Turgeon: Yes, sure. Look, we're very confident that we're going start. Look, mechanical completion is almost done. We're looking at the end of August to have Metso Outotec complete all of the change that we wanted to the facility. And look, we have in parallel, start coal commissioning of the equipment, the new equipment that were installed and the change that we've put in place. And we're looking at commissioning starting in October. And look, this is in line with what I mentioned at the last earnings call. There was a bit of delay because of COVID-19 in getting some of the material to finalize the modification on sites. But all of that material is now on site, almost -- well, we're at 96% completion of the installation of that. And look, we should see our first lag in the last quarter of the year. So that's basically the update. Not a lot of change since last quarter, but still continue to progress.

And then lastly, on Yanbu operating above expectations, can you provide a little more color there? Jean-François Turgeon: Yes, sure. Look, we broke a record of production at Yanbu in May. So we were very pleased with that. That's a record of all-time for the plant. So that's in line with us telling you that we would be able to deliver synergy by transferring the know-how of our Hamilton plant to the Yanbu plant in KSA. And I guess it looks good for 2022 as we continue to see a strong demand that we'll be able to grow our production to meet our customer needs.

And Frank, just to add to that, that capability has also allowed us to transfer some of the legacy Tronox grades over to Yanbu, which is also helping us in these times where we need more production at a variety of different plants.

The next question is from Matthew DeYoe of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

So KZN Sands is fairly close to RBM. And throughout the province, there was clearly an uptick in [indiscernible]. And I know you had mentioned outside of the port, your operations were kind of somewhat unimpacted. I'm just wondering how that's the case and how you've been able to stay open given the backdrop and what we've seen in operations, just a couple of miles down [Indiscernible]? Jean-François Turgeon: Yes. So Matthew, I'll try to give you some color. Well, our plant is [indiscernible], which is in land from Richards Bay. And look, it's true that there was riot. It's all related to Mr. Zuma. I think that that was a drop that makes the things start. But -- and look, what happened is you have people with extreme poverty in that part of the country and lots of unemployment and people vandalize the shopping center and grocery and fuel station and all that. You saw that on the news. But our people, we put a lot of effort in creating a special environment within Tronox, with our value, with our outward mindset, and our people are our ambassador, and they knew that something was to happen in the community. And we stopped trucking material in between the mine and the smelter, and we put our truck back at our site ahead of those events happening, because our people knew that that would happen. So then things kind of blowed, went out of proportion, but nothing happened at our site. We had our people taking care of our asset. And look, when government took back the control and police and the army came, well, we were able to restart right away with no damage and basically minimum impact to our operation and production. And that shows to the importance of working with your people, your employees. And I'd say that South Africa is probably better today than it was before that event because, I mean, the good people took control of what happened. I mean, the era of Mr. Zuma, I mean, I'm not to judge, but I mean, that was a bad time for South Africa, and I think that things are improving.

Okay. And it seems like, if I read your statements correctly, your commentary that there's some zircon inventory liquidation going on right now at Tronox, which is kind of boosting your numbers. If I were to think about next year in the type of volume metric headwind that could represent the business, what should we think about -- how should we size that?

Yes. So in 2022, our zircon revenues will migrate back to really '19, '18 levels, pre-pandemic levels. The inventory that we built in 2020 as a result of the pandemic were actually beneficial for us because we're able to meet all the market needs over the last couple of quarters. But with that being said, given how tight the market is, we have been able to offset some of that volume with price. In fact, more than offset that in the quarter. And we expect that to continue in Q3 and Q4. So we will have a volume headwind year-over-year in Q3 and Q4, price will more than offset that.

Okay. But you mentioned that revenues will be kind of consistent with 2019, 2018. Is that a volume comment? Or is this kind of consistent with what you'd expect price to do between now and then as well?

No, that was a volume comment.

Again, I think to Tim's point, and I think we said in prepared comments, even in Q3, although we are expecting lower volumes, price would more than offset the downturn, actually helping our revenue.

Yes.

And to be very clear, the demand is very strong at this particular stage. And that's why we think moving into next year with less volume, Atlas-Campaspe becomes more and more important as we replace some of the mining assets that we have. So the money that we're spending to reinvest in the business throughout the cycle is going to help us, but it's going to take some time to get some of that capacity up and running.

The next question is from Hassan Ahmed of Alembic Global. Please go ahead.

Wanted to revisit a question around ore supply or supply-demand fundamentals over there. And again, understood on the near-term side effect, we've seen issues in Sierra Leone, we've seen some issues in South Africa as well. But if I take a look at buyer, obviously, it's been an industry which has been undersupplied, under-invested for a while, right? And now here we are with the issue in Sierra Leone, the issue in South Africa. How are you guys thinking about supply-demand fundamentals, call it, near to medium-term in ore? And on a relative basis, in terms of availability, how are you guys thinking about the availability and supply-demand fundamentals of low-grade versus high grade ore. Jean-François Turgeon: So Hassan, I'll try to give you a little bit more color on this. Look, we feel that we're doing our part in the sense that we announced our Atlas-Campaspe mine almost a year ago, and we're going to start that operation next year. And that would allow us to maintain our 85% vertically integrated position, even if we're increasing our pigment production in order to grow with our customers. So that's our part, if you want. And look, we have other projects in our pipeline that we're looking at to continue to maintain that position and even increase our vertical position if we need to. We kind of like to be slightly short, because that allow us to be on the market and buy from the supplier, have a good understanding of what happened. And that's what we have done to make sure that we would have the material that we need. That being said, you're right, when you said that the industry probably underinvest in recent year, because the price didn't justify to open new mine and to invest in complex…

And just sticking to the theme of raw materials, again and again, on the call, you guys talked about chlorine supply kind of being an issue in the second quarter, maybe into the third quarter as well. But it seems that as I sort of hear some of the commentary coming out of one of the biggest, sort of, chlorine producers in North America, in particular, that that's going to be an issue that's going to be here for a while, right? How are you guys going to react or deal with the sort of reduced availability collate of chlorine, particularly in the North American market? And how do you think the industry deals with that? And I guess where I'm going with this question is, everyone's talking about us being in the sort of early innings of an up cycle within the TiO2 sort of cycle. Cash flows are improving and the like. Do you -- I mean, is it fair to assume that maybe you guys or the industry start thinking about building some of your own chlorine capacity? I mean, is that something that you guys are thinking about?

Yes. So Hassan, this is John Romano. We do have a -- outside of North America, we have a lot of purpose-built chlorine plants. So clearly, that's something we continue to evaluate. It's not just chlorine, although that's been kind of the focal point here recently, there's been other issues with nitrogen and oxygen and other plants. I mean there are a lot of issues in the industry right now. With regards to chlorine, coupled with looking at opportunities where we might actually evaluate building our own chlorine facility. We're also looking at our ability to continue to work with other suppliers. Our supply chain team has a good plan in place as we move into 2022 that will continue to support our growth, not only in the U.S. but globally. Jean-François Turgeon: Yes. And Hassan, just to link it with the feedstock. Tronox having 9 pigment plant and full control of its feedstock. We're obviously sending lower hole to place in the world where we have extra chlorine, and we try to keep the high-grade feedstock for our Hamilton plant in the U.S. because, I mean, we're facing that reality of the chlorine, I mean, so -- but we have kind of rearranged our feedstock to deal with that.

And if you think just -- we referenced, again, 5% to 10% decrease in Q3. To Q2. A lot of that has to do with what JF just said, we have been able to manage the chlorine issue by moving higher grade feedstock to other facilities to have a higher head grade, therefore, needing less chlorine. Some of the issues that happened recently are now being a bit exacerbated by transportation issues and getting that ore there quickly. So it's not a long-term issue for us. It's more of a short-term one. Nonetheless, it's an issue that we're dealing with.

Next question is from Jackie Fisher of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Question just around the theoretical volume increase for next year. So if we assume that demand stays very strong, and we assume that a lot of these logistical issues go away and your operations run as you would plan. How much more TiO2 would you be able to produce and sell next year versus what the plan looks like midpoint for this year? Jean-François Turgeon: Well, I mean, we assume, Duffy, that the TiO2 will grow like GDP. And we are aligning ourselves with customers that are growing slightly faster than the market. But I mean, we don't expect the type of growth that we have experienced from Q1 to Q2 and going forward to less. So I mean, we don't have plan of growth of double digit, but we have plant of growth of mid- single-digit growth for next year.

So clearly, yes, to is a big part of that, how we're going to support that growth with production, and we've talked about the synergies there. Those are going to continue into 2022. We continue to work with our operational excellence programs. And again, our vertical integration will allow us to continue to support their growth at our plants. We're not looking at any specific expansions, but continuing to debottleneck our plants, and we believe that we'll be able to continue to do that and capture the growth, at least at our percentage share and probably more.

Okay. Maybe I missed -- so I wasn't talking about kind of structural increases or like the long-term 10-year average. But most of what I was talking about is just physical operations, where it seems like, obviously, you had -- staler had an issue this year, right? I mean, theoretically, that doesn't happen next year. So just on a like on like basis, 21 into '22, if we assume some of the supply issues, physically, how much more -- or maybe a different way to ask it, the midpoint of your base case this year through the end of the year, what production level is that relative to what you would call your theoretical nameplate this year? I mean, I'm just trying to understand, is it a 75,000 Kt bump, is it 125, roughly how much more would we have to sell next year than this year? Jean-François Turgeon: Well, one color that I want to give, Duffy, is we are increasing our production. So from 21% to '22 will improve significantly the amount of tons that will produce, but you have to realize that we started '21 with inventory. And at the moment, we have absolutely no inventory. Well, we're below seasonal norm, as John said. So we need to rebuild that inventory.

And so -- and when we think -- so I guess generically, though, we try to run at the 95% utilization rate. You can't get to 100 on a regular basis. We have got 9 plants. There's going to be issues. All that being said, we'd hope that we could probably get another maybe 40,000 to 50,000 tons out next year. But to JF's point, there has to be an element of that, that goes back to rebuilding inventory because we're not at a sustainable level at this stage. Jean-François Turgeon: And we don't see that negatively because, obviously, we're not the only one facing that reality. So it would just keep the market from going to building huge inventory and then create another cycle. Instead, it will stabilize the situation, and that's positive with that.

Very fair. And then with things being so tight and with you guys kind of having the broadest plant footprint globally, have you pushed more people or more people ask this year to move into kind of longer-term arrangements, where maybe there's more sustainability or less volatility in that business over a longer period of time?

Yes, Duffy, I would say the answer to that question is, yes, but I differentiate that from longer term agreements. Yes, we haven't -- clearly, there's been a lot of interest in margin stability as the market starts to recover. And we don't typically provide details on contract splits. But what we can say is that we have a very good balance of agreements that will allow us to continue to capture price as we move into the second half and longer-term agreement commitments, I think, from some of the issues that have happened because, quite frankly, China has clearly added some capacity, but they're, I would say, a betteravia. So in some of those areas, we have picked up longer-term agreements moving into the balance of this year and into next.

Next question is from Vincent Andrews of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Just a question on pricing and your contracts. It may not be the case for you, but I believe it's the case for one of your competitors that also does the value stabilation contract that there's a linkage on price to PPI. And obviously, we're seeing a lot of PPI inflation out there. And so my question is, should we assume that your contracts will see positive price movement in line with something close to where PPI is going?

Yes. So just to be clear, our contracts, are you referring to as value stability agreements are not anything like that. We don't have anything that's tied to PPI. There are individual agreements that have capability of price to move up. Our price moved up 5% in the quarter. As we noted, we expect to get price strength moving into the third quarter. And we have the ability to adjust those contracts as we do non margin stability agreements. Again, not providing the split, we still feel we've got a good balance between margin stability and regular long-term agreements, which will allow us to continue to capture price.

Okay. And then as a follow-up, on the volume and shipment situation, you're going to be down 5% to 10% sequentially. We've heard from some of your -- a some of your customers during this reporting season already in paint and plastics that they've had issues getting other raw materials, which has caused them to produce less themselves. So are those folks still taking all the TiO2 they want because they know later on, they're going to make up their production? Or are they folks that won't -- that will be part of that 5% to 10% reduction in shipments on a go-forward basis? I'm just trying to figure out who's not getting your product, particularly those that are having their own production problems.

Yes. So the 5% to 10% reduction is going to be spread evenly around where we're having the issues. So depending upon where we're having a shortage, we have to look at contracts based on agreements and allocate accordingly. So I would say that those decreases would be split. It's not our opinion at this stage that there's any development of raw materials being built up in the chain. We think that not only our inventory is low, but our customers' inventories of TiO2 are low as well.

[Operator Instruction] The next question is from Jeff Secaucus of JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

I think that the currency translation to your EBITDA was $83 million in the first half. If currencies don't change, what would be the currency penalty to EBITDA for 2021? And when your hedges -- if currency stayed the same and your hedges come off next year, what's the currency penalty to EBITDA in '22 in rough terms?

Jeff, it's Tim. The hedge change year-on-year is worth about $30 million to $35 million of decline next year of a headwind next year.

And what's the penalty for this year as if currencies stay where they are roughly?

If currencies stay where they are roughly for the rest of the year, there is no penalty on our hedges because our hedges were locked in at $0.59 back in 2020.

What I meant to say was, what's the negative currency translation effect in the second half if volumes are more or less the same, prices are more or less the same? Is there a change in the third and fourth quarter?

It will still be a headwind just given the Q3 to Q4 changes. And let me see if I can grab that quickly. I think it's around $50 million, if I remember correctly, in the back half.

Your prices went up 5% sequentially. If you think about the U.S. and you think about Europe, I think that they were smaller in the U.S. and larger in Europe to get to that 5%. Is that correct?

Jeff, this is John Romano. I would say that our price increases in the quarter were evenly split across the regions.

Meaning that they were the same percentage change, both in the United States and in Europe?

And the same ballpark, yes.

Okay. Have you fully committed to buying the Jazan slagger? And can you remind us what the net cost of buying that as? Jean-François Turgeon: So Jeff, the -- the smelter was out of the original deal. But at the time, we said if the slider can demonstrate that it operates and make the level of production that was guaranteed by the supplier, Metso Outotec, we would acquire it. So basically, the arrangement is done that, look, we, as Tronox, had some doubt about the technology, and we wanted to make sure that if we get the asset, it would be value-accretive for the business. So that's why we say we have the advantage that if successful, will get a successful smelter to add to the Tronox portfolio. But if it doesn't work, we're not -- we don't have the problem to do next with the smelter. So that's how the arrangement is done basically. Look, obviously, while the smelter is being test and produce material, we will handle that material. So we will buy the slag and buy the pig iron from Tasnee. And we will use it in our plan. But it needs to reach a certain level of operation and success for us to acquire the asset.

Right. But how much would you pay for the asset? I think you might have loaned them some money in the past. How do you netted out as to what the cash -- the net cash outflow inclusive of debt would be if you purchased it? What would that price be?

If the Slager achieves sustainable operations, we assume the $322 million of debt in the $125 million that we've already committed. So $447 million.

$447 million. And all things being equal, that would happen this year?

No, that happens sustainable operations, which is probably a year out from start up. So next Q4 next year.

Our next question is from Roger Spitz of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

I'm not sure I heard correctly earlier. Did you say that you could consider building a chlor-alkali plant to address supply issues should traditional coring suppliers like not to supply you? And did you say that you're actually currently producing coin somewhere outside the U.S.

Yes. So what we said was that we're always evaluating that. We're building chloride chlorine facilities for any of our sites is something that we've evaluated over time. We have purpose-built chlorine facilities at some of our locations, and we buy merchant chlorine and others. So it's always something that we're looking at and have been evaluating on a year-by-year basis. Jean-François Turgeon: But Roger, Yanbu, for example, which is a copycat of Hamilton has its own chlorine facility. We own that facility, and we produce our own chlorine in KSA. Look, as John said, it was never a plant in the U.S., but depending on what happened with the market, we're going to look at it. If it's a good business case for us, we can do it. It's not something that is rotation.

It's something we have in our facility in [Kuanon] as well another purpose-built plant. So it's just something that we continue to evaluate based on where we are in the cycle.

Are you selling caustic soda into the market?

We do.

And I guess just last one, I will get it at the 10-Q, but what was the $135 million of debt repayment in Q2 '21 and the $70 million of debt that was repaid in July 2021. I mean which item? I'm assuming it was a term loan, maybe it was a standard bank?

Yes, Roger, primarily the term loan. They're a little bit in the Standard Bank of seller, the primary term loan in the U.S.

The next question is from Travis Edwards of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

A little bit different direction. I see a question on the sustainability side. Just as you've highlighted various targets for emission waste reduction. Have you outlined what the cost is to you to achieve those targets? Are those investments material enough that we should expect them to show up in cash flow items in the coming years? And if so, how much of that? Jean-François Turgeon: So very good question, Travis. And yes, look, as part of our 5-year plan, we always predict how much capital we will need to invest and where and it's link into that number that we make public. So we talked about $300 million to $325 million for this year. And obviously, there is sustainable investment and waste reduction as part of that capital investment for next year. We had talked about $350 million of capital as part of that capital investment, there is an ESG component that is always built year-on-year on that capital deployment.

Getting to our 2030 to, ultimately, 2050 goals, clearly, there's more work to be done on determining what that capital spend is going to be. Right now, we're working on a 5-year plan, which we've just finalized, but getting out into 2030 and beyond, there's still some work to do there. But clear projects identified to actually reach those targets, at least 2030. Jean-François Turgeon: And I'd add to that, Travis, that some of those projects are value creation. I mean they're reducing our greenhouse gas, but they also are good business project.

That will help reduce cost. Jean-François Turgeon: Yes.

That has locate this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Turgeon for closing remarks. Jean-François Turgeon: Thank you, everyone. And look, this complete what we had prepared for you. I just want to reinforce a big thank you to all of our employees and all the people who make those results possible. So thank you, everyone, and thank you for your support and interest in Tronox.

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.