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Trex Company, Inc. (TREX)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Tue, Aug 2, 2016

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. And welcome to the Trex Company Second Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jon Friedman. Please go ahead.

Jon Friedman

Analyst

Thank you everyone for joining us today. With us on the call are Jim Cline, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Bryan Fairbanks, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Jim and Bryan are joined by other members of Trex’s management team. The company issued a press release yesterday after market close, containing financial results for the second quarter of 2016. This release is available on the company’s website. The conference call is also being webcasted on the Investor Relations page of the company's website where it will be available for 30 days. I'd now like to turn the call over to Bill Gupp, Vice President and General Counsel. Bill?

William Gupp

Analyst

Thank you, Jon. Before we begin, let me remind everyone that statements on this call regarding the company’s expected future performance and conditions constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of Federal Securities Law. These statements are subject to certain risk and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements. For a discussion of such risk and uncertainties, please see our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Qs as well as our other 33 and other 34 Act filings with the SEC. The company expressly disclaims any obligation to update or revise publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. With that introduction, I will turn the call over to Jim Cline.

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you, Bill. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate your participation in today's call to discuss our second quarter operating and financial results and our business outlook. As you’ve seen from our earnings release issued yesterday, this was another outstanding quarter for Trex. The third consecutive quarter in which we have produced double-digit earnings growth, thanks to the unmatched strength of the Trex brand, our unique business model, and efficient cost structure. In fact this was the second consecutive quarter for us in terms of both sales and earnings positioning Trex for an excellent 2016. Our total revenue increased 7% in the second quarter which was in line with our guidance. This growth reflects the strength of the remodeling sector and the effective execution of our branding and marketing strategies. Our internal projections point to a continued strong demand from both trade and consumers. I am pleased to report that we manage to convert the high single digit sales growth into a 36% increase in diluted earnings per share. Thanks to a combination of several factors. Most important was our 350 basis point increase in gross margin which consistent with the first quarter, benefited primarily from lower input costs, ongoing manufacturing cost savings, and higher capacity utilization. Brian, will go over these areas in more depth in a moment. Trex has an important raw material cost advantage, thanks to the use of recycled plastic film. Our past investments in plant capacity leaves us well-positioned to meet future growth without the need for significant additional investment. Even with a significant ramp up in sales, we have the capacity to handle more volume, driving improvements and profitability. Second, despite the additional marketing spend we previewed last quarter, we succeeded in holding the year-on-year increase in SG&A as a percent of sales to only…

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you, Jim. And good morning, everyone. As Jim mentioned, we achieve record sales and earnings this quarter, which benefited from many of the same trends that drove our first quarter performance. Net sales for the second quarter were record $146.5 million, up 7% year-on-year and in line with our previous guidance. This growth was mainly driven by higher volumes in our core decking and railing business, reflecting our ability to leverage the market leading Trex brand. Second quarter sales growth was partially offset by expected reduction in the sale of poly film. As you may recall, we execute a strategy in the fourth quarter of 2015 to cut back our purchases of poly film to a level that would be more consistent with our production requirements. We advise the annual sales impact in 2016 would be a reduction of approximately $10 million spread evenly across the year. The primary driver of our record earnings result was a robust gross profit, which increased 16.9% resulting in a 350 basis point expansion in gross margin to 41.9%. The improvement in gross margin was due to several positive impacts, including lower raw material cost, manufacturing cost improving initiatives, and higher capacity utilization. We anticipate ongoing benefits from these factors for the rest of the year. SG&A for the quarter totaled $24.8 million, up 10% from the second quarter of 2015, but remained relatively flat as a percentage of net sales, representing 16.9% versus 16.4% last year. The year-on-year increase in absolute dollars was primarily due to a higher branding expenditures that were shifted to the second quarter from the first quarter. As we previously guided in first quarter remarks, our first half SG&A as a percentage of sales was approximately equivalent to the first half of 2015 at 16.3% versus 16.7% in…

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Thanks, Bryan. To sum it up, this was an outstanding quarter for Trex, with record sales and earnings we continue on track to deliver strong earnings growth for the year 2016. We expect third quarter revenue to be approximately $105 million or 12% ahead of last year. At this guidance level, our trailing 12 month sales will be up by 11%. Gross margin comparisons are expected to continue to benefit from lower input costs, cost savings, and modestly higher capacity utilization. The longer term output remains quite positive. Initial metric show that our marketing campaigns are resonating with both trade and consumers. We continue to develop innovative products and are confident in our ability to increase conversion from wood to high-performance products. After taking the lead to initiate a national advertising campaign focused on educating the consumer on why to buy Trex versus wood, I am pleased to see that all of the major manufacturers are starting to focus their efforts on the conversion from wood to wood alternative products. Every 1% of market share we gain from wood will add $50 million in revenue. And, we have a compelling case for conversion. Over the life of the product the consumer will save much more than the initial price premium, while enjoying a customized outdoor living space that’s guaranteed to retain its color and consistency for 25 years. At this point, operator, I'd like to open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question from Al Kaschalk of Webush Securities. Please go ahead.

Al Kaschalk

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Good morning, guys.

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Good morning, Al.

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Morning.

Al Kaschalk

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Congrats on the strong quarter. I just wanted to drill down a little bit on the incremental margin, in particular the sustainability of that particularly as we look out. I realize you are not going to talk about future outlooks. But just in terms of the operational changes you’ve made - maybe the benefit, I guess of lower input and then more important capital capacity utilization. How should we be thinking about those types of trends on the incremental side in light of the scrap poly sales that you are benefiting from in 2016?

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Yes, we're very pleased with the incremental margin performance that we've seen through the year. You can expect to see elevated incremental margins through 2016, as such we revise that guidance to 80% incremental for the rest of the year. Many of the same drivers that you saw through the first quarter and second quarter, you'll continue to see through the remainder of the year. During the first quarter, we know that 50% of the gains were through lower raw material costs and other cost saving initiatives, while the remaining 50% was through pricing, capacity utilization and other operating efficiencies. Our gains during the second quarter fall into the same grouping and ranges. And I wouldn’t expect to see much of a difference on that as we move into the second half of the year. Although, the capacity utilization will be more modest than what you’ve seen during the first half.

Al Kaschalk

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Okay. And then my follow-up, if I may. I hate to ask about future growth initiatives because you’re doing a hell of a job within incremental dollar of revenue and that comes in. But, Jim, could you maybe just comment on maybe some of the opportunities or where you are at in terms of the company side on expansion of the product line?

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Sure. As you're probably aware, we have been quite focused on our international expansion, while it remains less than 10% of our sales. We have seen significant growth opportunities there, picking up some larger retail accounts in Europe in particular, as well as expanding our distribution within Europe. We think we have the right business model, effectively working in that area. Second major opportunity would be specifically related to conversions from wood. We are very focused on that because it’s such a huge opportunity for the industry. But Trex sees that as a huge opportunity for us. We're the first ones to put a national campaign out there. We think we will drive the awareness and based on what we're seeing with our website hits, specific to that, the consumers are interested in focus their buying in that manner. We are constantly looking at our product offering and improving our product offering. We think there will be opportunities down the road for those improvements to also affect us positively. Finally, we do focus on continuing to expand our market share in the alternative wood market and we continue to be successful in moving the ball forward in that arena.

Al Kaschalk

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Does that imply there was acquisitions or just brand strength that's carrying preference for the Trex brand?

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

The brand strength is what's carrying the leading opportunity there. We have continued to expand what the consumer sees with regard to the Trex brand. If you look at the website performance compared to others in the industry, we are clearly making tremendous progress in that, which brings more consumers to our website, which in turn we're able to channel to our business partners. And, those are yielding great benefits at this point.

Al Kaschalk

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Good luck, guys. Thank you for the color.

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Thanks, Al.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Alex Rygiel of FBR. Please go ahead.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Thank you. Good morning Jim and Bryan, great quarter.

James Cline

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Jim, do you have any idea or I am sure you know, but if you want to share with us, what is the mix of customers that are buying your products to install a new deck versus buying your product to replace a competitor's product and or buying your product to replace wood?

James Cline

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Yes, the vast majority of our decks that are sold our repair and remodeling and that would include replacement of wood, replacement of competing products, in some cases replacement of Trex products. In addition, we see a number of decks that we include in repair and remodeling which are in relatively new houses, but were not put on the house when the house wan initially constructed. You see that an awful lot, you'll see the bar across the sliding glass door after a house is built and within about three years you'll see a deck go under that house. We include that as part of the repair and remodeling. So new housing, specifically when it’s built with the house, that goes on, that would be about 5%, so the 95% is made up of the other category I just described.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

And then as it relates to, sort of the third quarter revenue guidance of 12% growth, can you give us a little bit more color on that relative to the first half performance, why the acceleration and growth and maybe compared to last year, sort of, weaker third-quarter. And then a little bit of color on SG&A in the second half of the year versus last year's second half would be helpful as well?

James Cline

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Sure. If you go back and look at the performance of Trex over the last three quarters, you would see that the fourth quarter performance was up quite substantially. That’s when we initially start selling into dealers in particular getting inventory on the ground, so that they are able to begin the sell-through if they have a mild winter. We had mild winters, so they did begin that sell-through. I think fourth quarter was up about 20%, if memory serves me right. The first quarter is basically a continuation of load in. So we anticipate typically, it’s not as robust as what we can see in other quarters. And, and then you also see the sell-through beginning to occur in the second quarter. The third quarter is kind of, a - where everything equalizes, the inventory start to come down significantly as distributors begin to reduce their inventory in anticipation of the winter. So, people start reducing their inventory, but it also tells you, what the channel inventory looks like. The reason for the stronger third quarter is we saw very early on that the channel inventory was not sufficient to keep up with demand and therefore we saw increased demand occurring in July that pushed our number a little bit higher than what the street had expected. Do you want to take the SG&A?

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Could you just repeat the SG&A question you had?

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Yes, as your SG&A guidance for the second half of '16 versus the second half of '15 on a sort of a percent of sales basis would be helpful. Should we expect it to be up a little bit, down a little bit and for what reason?

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

You can expect a similar percentage to where we were during the prior year.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Very helpful. Thank you.

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

And the SG&A for the full year would be about the same basis points as revenue as it was last year.

Alex Rygiel

Analyst · FBR. Please go ahead

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Keith Hughes of SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Keith Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead

Yes. Two questions, one what was the breakdown between volume and pricing in the quarter? And second on the raw materials, your outlook there for the next several quarters, it sounds that you’re going to continue to get these benefits, you're getting a little late than other plastic users, but as we anniversary this next year will you still have some potential gains?

James Cline

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead

All right. So first from a volume and price perspective, we had about 90 basis points of pricing come through during the quarter than the remainder was volume. And, as we look at the reduced raw material cost, we'll see - start to see a small portion of that start to overlap in the fourth quarter. But really by the first quarter is when you start seeing the year-over-year numbers decrease where we'll truly have the overlapping of the cost savings. So, we do expect to continue to see strong benefit on a year-over-year basis both in the third and the fourth quarter of this year.

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead

And, Keith, one thing I would like to add, Keith, it’s kind of interesting when you look at commodity prices, we have seen oil start to blip up a little bit, while local gas prices just dipped under $2 a gallon for regular, so good sign for that. But, if you look at the virgin polyethylene, virgin polyethylene is down about 7% year-over-year. We're seeing a continue drop in prices for the scrap poly. We believe that is going to stabilize as we get towards the tail end of the year. Interestingly, PVC is actually trending upwards. It’s about 5% to 6% higher than a year ago. So, it is kind of a mixed bag. It is based on available capacity for the virgin products. Ours, again, is based on general economic conditions because we buy on the scrap market, those are trending downwards very modestly at this point.

Keith Hughes

Analyst · SunTrust. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from John Baugh of Stifel. Please go ahead.

John Baugh

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Thank you. Good morning. Congrats on a great quarter guys. I guess a couple of just tidbits here. One, that $10 million of sales that you are missing this year, Jim, I can't remember does that - was that profitable for you last year, in other words is that a margin accretion not having enough sales?

James Cline

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Last year it was breakeven to a slight loss, and so eliminating those sales actually have a slight benefit to the margin percentage.

John Baugh

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Right. And, I apologize if you’ve got this in filings and I haven’t seen it yet. But it's nice to hear there are no charges relating to replacing decks. How is that whole claims process settlement process going, any update there?

James Cline

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Our spending on claims continues to decline on a year-over-year basis. During the second quarter, our spending was down by 16% to $2.6 million and on a year-to-date basis it’s been down by about 10% as well. So, we're pleased with the direction that it’s moving in at this point. And we will do further analysis as the years go through and as we get through the busiest part of the season.

John Baugh

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Great. And then, just a point of clarification is the 80% incremental guide, is that for the full year '16 or is that for the second half?

James Cline

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

That is for the full year '16

John Baugh

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay. And then, lastly I don't know Jim, if you want to comment, but any thoughts about new products as we go into next year, any update there? Thank you.

James Cline

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Yes, John. No update on new products, typically the way we handle any new product announcements is we talk about those with our distribution partners first and that normally would occur in this case early November. And then we would come back and clarify if there are any new products to the streets. We are constantly looking at opportunities to develop and introduce to the market those types of products, which the consumers are looking for and we continue to have that robust R&D effort in place.

John Baugh

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay. And I'm sorry, if I just take one more in, did you comment, I'm sorry if I missed it on the rail attachment, is that’s - is railing going up as a percentage to your mix, will it be stable? Thank you.

James Cline

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Railing attachment is moving up slightly. We do have a good attachment rate, it’s grown over the last several years quite nicely. We continue to view that as an opportunity - opportunistic area that we can generate additional revenue from.

John Baugh

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Great. Good luck. Thank you.

James Cline

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Morris Ajzenman of Griffin Securities. Please go ahead.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Good morning, guys.

James Cline

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Good morning, Morris.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Can you give us any sort of color as far as traction which your dealers, distributors, locations if you are getting any further share their? How that’s playing out?

James Cline

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Yes. We anticipate when the year finishes up we'll see a very modest expansion in market share driven by either expansion with existing dealers or in some case a few new dealers. There have not been any significant changes that have occurred with the dealer base as you saw several years ago though.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

And, is that something we can expect to maintain that modest level going out to '17 and '18 or might that be - become more aggressive, how is that going to play out?

James Cline

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

I believe that the growth that we see will primarily be driven by conversions from wood, which will have the effect of allowing us to gain additional share, but not necessarily taking share from competitors and the alternative wood products category. There is always a little bit of that that occurs, but I do not see any significant opportunities on the horizon at this point.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Okay. Capacity utilization, I don't think you really talk about it as a number anymore, but if you do please share with us and if not, it looks like you're going to have about $408 million of revenues or thereabout for this year end and the 2016, where could that potentially go to based on existing infrastructure?

James Cline

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

We haven't really talked about capacity utilization in the form of a percentage significantly, because of the continuous improvement programs that we have in place. A number of years ago we saw significant improvement which made modeling based off of that capacity utilization, almost irrelevant at that timeframe. We're continuing to see opportunities within our operations to improve both of our rates, yields, and overall operational efficiencies. We talked in prior quarters that from an overall capacity perspective this year we thought we'd be running between 50% and 55%. We're still on track with that with where revenues are at this point, so no change from that perspective. And, as we move forward, I expect we'll continue to drive improvements within that number and you can gauge the revenue based off of that.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Okay. The last question, top line of 7% this year, I mean, excuse me - this quarter, any sort of, estimate of what you think the industry grew this quarter over the first half to kind of, compare up against your numbers and how do you think it plays out for the full year for the industry?

James Cline

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Yes. Morris, my expectation, by the time we get done with the year, I think that the industry will see roughly mid single digit growth. You will see some people with growth at the high end of that. You will see some of our competitors who will see growth at the lower end of the single-digit. As I mentioned, our trailing 12 months, including the third quarter forecast is roughly at 11%. So that implies to me that we are clearly outpacing the general market conditions.

Morris Ajzenman

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you.

James Cline

Analyst · Griffin Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Jim Barrett of C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead.

Jim Barrett

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Good morning, everyone.

James Cline

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Good morning.

Jim Barrett

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Bryan, in terms of capital spending this year, the additional $50 million that is expected, is that primarily in building material related new products or is that going to be spent on the recycled pellets business?

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Yes, it will be primarily in building material related products and investments within our operations for future efficiencies.

Jim Barrett

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Okay. And, Jim your placement in the UK, Ireland and B&Q, I know it’s early, but can you give us any sense as to how that is progressing?

James Cline

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

The B&Q relationship is progressing well. We have been advertising extensively in the UK and that appears to be having the desired affects that we anticipated. We look forward to expanding that relationship over the next several years and hopefully build a much closer relationship with them.

Jim Barrett

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Because they have a much larger store base, I take it that or is this essentially a one-year test, how should - how are you thinking about it?

James Cline

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

No, I wouldn’t expect this to be a one-year task. B&Q is part of the Kingfisher Group and we continue to have discussions regarding other opportunities in Europe.

Jim Barrett

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

And then last but not least, or last and least rather, the last conference call you noted that the rain impeded deck building in the month of April, could you talk about to what degree you felt the weather may have impeded the Q2 number?

Bryan Fairbanks

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Well, I don’t think it was significant, we adjusted in our guidance where we felt the quarter would lie. I can also tell you that as we've looked at the month of June, we actually saw a little bit of softness in the latter part of June, typical market timing. Sometimes you find that the consumers decide to take a little sabbatical on their projects. Coming out of the month of June, they were back in the market and we did see it strengthen. So I would say that the month, I'm sorry the second quarter is a typical second quarter, a little bit slow in the front-end, maybe a little bit slow in the rear end, but the middle was very strong.

Jim Barrett

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Well, thank you both very much.

James Cline

Analyst · C.L. King & Associates. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Michael Conti of Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead.

Michael Conti

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Hey, good morning.

James Cline

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Good morning, Michael.

Michael Conti

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Yes. Can you talk about any customer additions in the quarter and maybe just provide us with the year-over-year growth to your big box customers? I'm just trying to get a sense of any market share gains with your products over your wood-based competitors?

James Cline

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Yes. With regard to conversion of wood, we just started the campaign this year. As we mentioned before this will be a multiyear campaign, while directionally we are seeing the interest, we believe the drive to wood will take place, will begin to really take place more in next year and the following year. So it’s very difficult to see that in the numbers, especially as we look at the numbers throughout the year, really you need to look at a full-year to really determine whether or not that movement is occurring. We're seeing good growth across the full breadth of the market, big box as well as the two-step distribution model. So it’s a very balanced growth that we're seeing and I believe that is probably representative of the entire market since we are such a large portion of that share.

Michael Conti

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Sure. Okay. And then I guess adjusting last year for the scrap poly sales, it looks like guidance is more around 50%. And I know you mentioned insufficient inventory coming from the distribution channel. But are there any one-time project in there that maybe skew that number upward or is it when you cited softness in June, are you seeing more of a pent-up demand in the third quarter?

James Cline

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Yeah. I think what we saw in July was the fact that inventories went down a little bit too far and they were right sized in the July time period. But we believe that the market continues to be strong. When we look at the activity, we see on our website, we anticipate that the third quarter is going to continue to be a fairly strong business environment for decking and railing.

Michael Conti

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

So there weren’t any one-time projects in there?

James Cline

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

No significant one-time projects.

Michael Conti

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Okay. And my last one, it looks like you had a price increase on the trends inline. I mean, how should we think about price for the remainder of 2016?

James Cline

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

We announced our pricing to our distribution and channel partners prior to any other actions we would do. We did take pricing on our Transcend Classic line in October of last year, but, right now it’s nothing on the drawing board. We will be meeting with our distributors late in the fourth quarter and any pricing actions would be talked about in that timeframe.

Michael Conti

Analyst · Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead

Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Jim Cline, President and Chief Executive Officer for any closing remarks.

James Cline

Analyst · Webush Securities. Please go ahead

Thank you for joining us for our business outlook and financial results. We look forward to talking more about the third quarter in our next conference call. That conference call will be scheduled to also be after our distributor meeting. So we will be able to give you a little bit more color on where we believe the market is headed in 2017 as well as the end to the period in 2016. Thanks again for joining us. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.